CocheseUGA

I'll give Apple all the credit in the world for letting us be free of bloatware and huge ugly Verizon logos.

doopstr

Is this a good deal on used iPhone 5S?
$279
http://slickdeals.net/?pv=&au=&sdtid...ed.html%23Gold

Whiskers

for a little more you can have my 6 plus

doopstr

I think my penis might get jealous if it's not the biggest thing in my pants.

Whiskers

I don't have that problem

Mizouse

iPhone Upgrade Program - Apple

Think I'll go with this once my current AT&T contract ends.

F U AT&T

Flipster23

iTrader: (15)

<p></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>My cousin got on that with Sprint. But she has to keep her Iphone forever no switching..</p>

Flipster23

iTrader: (15)

<p></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You like the lease plan? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I can't stand all that bloatware VZW is horrible with that. That's why I wish I could just buy the phone from the manufacturer. (I believe the Moto X and new Nexus will be like that.) No more going through the carriers.</p>

Mizouse

You're buying the iPhone with apple, just spread over 24 months

doopstr

$388 a year sounds like a lot of money to me for a base iphone that gets swapped out every year. for Apple stock holders.

Costco

The lease plan is nice because it's another choice. You can still buy the phone outright, or even go through a carrier. With the lease plan you can upgrade to the latest and greatest once that comes out. Why don't you like that?

Good luck getting your hands on a Nexus 6. I tried to get a Nexus 6 from the Google Play Store until I just gave up. At first I wanted the white one, then I would have even settled for the blue one. The 64gb was impossible to get.

Buying it outright is good too, because of iPhones great resale value.

Flipster23

iTrader: (15)

<p></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Oh I didn't catch that you could get it directly from Apple. Guess that's a good idea. I thought you were talking about the lease plan from the carriers.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>My buddy buys his Iphone outright every year, he only ends up paying about $350 ish because he sales his previous one. He will sell his 6+ after buying the 6S+</p>

CocheseUGA

It's not better than buying it outright, but I think it's a better idea than the carriers 12 month upgrade programs. It's a couple more bucks than Jump, but less than Next.

Whiskers

$849 to buy it outright (64 inch S Plus) after a year it could be sold for about $500 - So you paid about $350 for the year - Compared to $40.75 a month for 12 months (I guess you need to pay for another 12 months, but if you get a new phone after the year does the clock start over) = $489 for the year - Seems a lot smarter to but it outright.

TheChamp531

iTrader: (3)

I'm actually disappointed with Apple. Everything they announced was expected and not amazing. Nothing 'revolutionary' or significant features in the past few releases... 6S = 6 = bigger 5S = 5 just with slightly better APU. Resolution still sucks compared to the competitors too.

Whiskers

It's still cool to have your opinion so go for it. Apple is in the mode of doing things that exist and making it better then the competition. In 2015 we are not in the same league of inventing a new "thing".

CocheseUGA

Factor in Applecare+ though.

Whiskers

true - but if the phone is gone within the year you may or may not even need it.

doopstr

I think if the rumor sites didn't post everything that was coming people would be more impressed. People been reading about iPad Pro and 6S for months. Once they see it, it's meh.
16GB base memory is inexcusable in the 6S, though not as bad as selling a 5C with 8GB.

Whiskers

The 3D touch (force) is really amazing if it works. As far as I know nobody else did anything like it

kurtatx

That's my thought as well.

However, I'm way too worried about breaking my phone.

doopstr

Wow, they jacked up the service fee from $79 to $99 on 6S and 6S+

CocheseUGA

Well, factoring it in makes it right about even. Then, you don't have to worry about getting it sold at the price you need.

I don't know if it works for everyone, but it's one of the best alternatives I've seen yet to the carrier programs. I'm paying $25 a month for 30 months on this stupid 6 for my wife. I much rather would have paid $7 more a month for warranty and an ability to just swap it out. I think? There's advantages and disadvantages both ways. If you don't want to swap each time a new one comes out, then this certainly isn't the solution.

Whiskers

Its a good start I think.

Mizouse

this.

plus applecare+ is more than just an extended warranty, it covers accidental damage from things not water related. The standard 1 year warranty only covers hardware repair.

anyways when the time comes ill decide what to do, i dont think i can sell my 6P anyways since im still under contract.

AZuser

Huawei's Mate S came out/was announced 1 week back. Doubt they implemented it as well though.

Newer components like 3D touch and "special dual ion‑exchange" display, new 7000 series aluminum, 12MP iSight camera, etc. more expensive to manufacturer, so it's kinda justified.

Maybe it'll come down in a year when iPhone 7 is released

maharajamd

iTrader: (1)

There was a lot of good today.

Who's in line Whiskers? How far back would I be? Lol

AZuser

Prices for used 5S's have dropped on Swappa. 16GB 5S for tmobile can be had for as little as $224. A guy listed today over a dozen 5S's ranging from good to mint condition. Asking $249 each.

TheChamp531

iTrader: (3)

The thing is whatever is current right now isn't that big of a deal. They didn't make a better resolution screen nor will they ever make a better one than the competitor unless they randomly threw a 4K res on a 5.5" screen which would be really good or really stupid.

Fingerprint sensor? Who cares. NFC Pay? Who cares.

Two years of 'innovation' and we get a slightly better version of them? Psst. Pass. I'm not a fan of Steve Jobs and I'm not sure if this is remotely true, but when Jobs passed, it seemed like the innovation side of the mobile industry did as well. The closest thing to 'revolutionary' was the Unbuntu Edge platform which is limited to more knowledgeable users.


I purposely did not read any sites of these rumours. Nonetheless, as stated above, nothing was that crazy. Obviously it is going to be the 'most advanced iPhone yet, iPad yet, Apple TV...' I'd hope so.


Maybe I'm asking for too much, but the numbers easily show that Android is catching up for a reason. iPhone continues to disappoint. Of course they control a lot of the market share, but it is dwindling down every year. Make something different Apple... please. Retina scan, open source, better resolution, USB (w/o lightning), separate CPU/GPU, VR, etc...

Or make these items more affordable. Drop profit margins to help others afford it (whether they need it nor).

Mizouse

more affordable?

The Samsung Note 5 64GB at full price at the AT&T store is $839.99
The Samsung S6 Edge+ 64GB is $914.99

the iPhone 6S Plus 64GB is $849.99

pretty comparable prices to me

AZuser

Samsung, Google, LG, Huawei, One Plus, and just about every other handset manufacturer apparently. If they didn't, they wouldn't be adding fingerprint scanners to their handsets.

If Samsung and Google didn't care, they wouldn't have created Samsung pay or Android pay. Retailers wouldn't have banded together to create CurrentC as an alternative to Apple Pay. PayPal wouldn't have shelled out $280 million for Paydiant so they can use their tech in PayPal's new "Here" NFC payment terminal. Verifone wouldn't have wasted time and money on R&D for their PAYware Mobile e355 NFC terminal.

Just because you don't care doesn't mean everyone else shares your sentiment.


Android might be increasing market share, but I'd say the user experience and quality means more to Apple than quantity. You still have over 70% of people running old versions of Android (and half of that are still on 3 yr old Jelly Bean).

Do you know why Android market share is increasing? Entry-level handsets.

1) Less dumb phones being made forces people to buy smartphones even if they don't want/need them. These smartphones end up being entry-level units.

2) Emerging markets. Again, these smartphones tend to be entry-level units that don't do much or things very well. But once these emerging markets grow and mature and the people become more wealthy, they will want to upgrade to something better. And if China is an indicator, they will want the iPhone.

IDC: Smartphone OS Market Share 2015, 2014, 2013, and 2012

In case you weren't aware, Apple doesn't compete in the entry-level low cost market. They see it as a waste of time to focus on that segment of the market because entry-level phones are often of poor quality and offer a poor user experience. Those aren't things Apple wants to be associated with. And it's not a very profitable segment either.

As long as iPhone sales are increasing, I doublt Apple (Tim Cook) are losing any sleep.

Q3:

• 47.5 million iPhones sold between Mar 29, 2015 and Jun 27, 2015 -- up 35% vs same period a year ago
• 35.2 million iPhones sold between Mar 30, 2014 and Jun 27, 2014 -- up 12.82% vs same period a year ago
• 31.2 million iPhones sold between Mar 31, 2013 and Jun 29, 2013 -- up 20% vs same period a year ago

Q2:

• 61.2 million iPhones sold between Dec 28, 2014 and Mar 28, 2015 -- up 40% vs same period a year ago
• 43.7 million iPhones sold between Dec 29, 2013 and Mar 29, 2014 -- up 16.85% vs same period a year ago
• 37.4 million iPhones sold between Dec 30, 2012 and Mar 30, 2013 -- up 6.55% vs same period a year ago

Q1:

• 74.5 million iPhones sold between Sep 28, 2014 and Dec 27, 2014 -- up 46% vs same period a year ago
• 51.0 million iPhones sold between Sep 29, 2013 and Dec 28, 2013 -- up 6.7% vs same period a year ago
• 47.8 million iPhones sold between Sep 30, 2012 and Dec 29, 2012 -- up 29.05% vs same period a year ago

Q4

• 39.2 million iPhones sold between Jun 28, 2014 and Sep 27, 2014 -- up 16% vs same period a year ago
• 33.8 million iPhones sold between Jun 30, 2013 and Sep 28, 2013 -- up 25.65% vs same period a year ago
• 26.9 million iPhones sold between Jun 30, 2012 and Sep 29, 2012 -- up 58.14% vs same period a year ago

iPhone 5S is going to be free with a 2 yr contract. And it will still be better than many entry-level smartphone out there. How much cheaper/more affordable do you want it to be?

Whiskers

3rd

Sarlacc

I agree.

Im tired of of everyone using the "innovation" argument. Technology isn't in a period of revolutionary innovation. Not from anyone...Google, Samsung, etc...those are doing anything either.

We are in a period of improvements. Who knows when we will see something that truly innovates...because we don't even know what it is yet. But it would be damned impossible for any of these companies to constantly "innovate" the industry year after year.

I think the new Apple TV is "innovative" if the Siri feature works as demoed.

Having a large pro sized tablet with a pen tool (stylus) that has pixel accuracy and pressure sensitivity which is great for artists/designers is somewhat "innovative" The closest thing you have to that is a Cintiq, which requires a computer to drive it.

I don't know when or how peoples expectations got to be so high, but they need to pull their heads out of their asses.

Jakes_tl

I totally agree with Sarlacc. Well said!

Whiskers

Yeah, thats kinda what I said.

Sarlacc

I didn't read that far back

Doom878

Yeah I had checked. They updated the prices last night. 64GB for $300 for 6P for my gf is an option for her. Best Buy seems to not sell ATT with 2 year contract pricing.

Does AppleCare cover glass breakage meaning if you do the new lease program, you can drop your phone a million times and get free replacements?

doopstr

T-Mobile offering $125 discount on iPhone 6S, with lifetime coverage satisfaction guarantee | 9to5Mac

doopstr

The new iPhone features radically expanded LTE coverage on T-Mobile. So we’re launching the first-ever Lifetime Coverage Guarantee!
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-...=27795&irgwc=1

NBP04TL4ME

Not sure if this has already been covered but similar to what doopstr just posted regarding T-Mobile:

My family has been with Sprint forever. Sprint has us in their system as customers since 2000, but that is only because that's as far back as their system goes. I think we have been with Sprint since 96.
Back in July my wife and I upgraded our phones from 4S (had them 38 months) to the newer 6. Before we went into the store I figured I would be forking over $400 or $500 (net of our upgrade discount) to buy the phones outright - which we have always done. Instead the salesperson said we were eligible for a loyalty discount of $15/month/line, if we leased the phones and had no out of pocket costs. Also the $15/month/line can be used as a discount against a lease for any model or size phone Sprint has.

In Summary -

We kept and still have our old 4S phones (backups if needed)
Got two new 16GB iPhone 6 phones for $20/month/line
Are paying $5/month/line or $10
Kept the same plan - which is great because it is unlimited text and unlimited data.
At the end of the 24 month lease, we can continue to lease at the same rate outside of the lease agreement, buy the phones for $200 each or get new phones.

So I am leasing 2 16GB iPhone 6's for $10/month or a total of $240. Not sure if the loyalty discount thing was some sort of sales tactic and it is more widely available, but it seems like a good deal. The salesperson said most carriers are going to be moving away from the locked in service plans and will be switching and focusing on the devices.