Technology Get the latest on technology, electronics and software…

Apple: iPhone News and Discussion Thread

Thread Tools
 
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 01:20 AM
  #12121  
AZuser's Avatar
_
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 19,335
Likes: 3,438
Originally Posted by stogie1020
Time to ditch your 3.5mm headphones?

http://9to5mac.com/2014/06/03/apple-...re-ios-update/
Sweet. Now I can get myself a headset capable of producing high quality audio to listen to all my 256 kbps iTunes songs
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 03:02 AM
  #12122  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
Originally Posted by jupitersolo
You didn't even read what was posted... doesn't say you HAVE TO change.
for a change, I did read LOL


yes, for now you will have 2 options....am pretty sure that in couple years the 3.5mm will disappear...


also the "better" audio is a total HOAX, the only thing which will happen is amplified volume...

I have the original iphone which came with a dock...on the back of the dock, there is a 30 pin (the big connector) and a 3.5mm jack....

so you could dock your phone and feed the 3.5mm to an input of a device....I have plugged headphones in both options...3.5mm on the phone and 3.5mm on the dock via the 30 pin connector and the 3.5mm from the dock sounded "better"

had more volume basically...everything else felt the same....
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 03:09 AM
  #12123  
Whiskers's Avatar
Go Giants
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 70,003
Likes: 1,260
From: PA
You're comparing a new standard thats not even done yet to a 6 year old solution that never advertised that it makes the sound better?
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 03:13 AM
  #12124  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
^^^ am sorry I totally wrote that in my sleep and was talking about 2 different things...

What I basically wanted to say is I don't mind buying an adapter for 25 bucks to listen to music in "better" quality...but now you would have to buy a completely different set of headphones which won't work with any other device
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 03:15 AM
  #12125  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
Its not like I only use my phone for music...I use my phone and motoactv and my work laptop... So if they have an adapter (lightning to 3.5mm) you can use that favorite pair of headphones and just use the adapter when you listen to music off the phone
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:01 AM
  #12126  
jupitersolo's Avatar
nnInn
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 37,670
Likes: 1,084
Originally Posted by swoosh
for a change, I did read LOL


yes, for now you will have 2 options....am pretty sure that in couple years the 3.5mm will disappear...


also the "better" audio is a total HOAX, the only thing which will happen is amplified volume...

I have the original iphone which came with a dock...on the back of the dock, there is a 30 pin (the big connector) and a 3.5mm jack....

so you could dock your phone and feed the 3.5mm to an input of a device....I have plugged headphones in both options...3.5mm on the phone and 3.5mm on the dock via the 30 pin connector and the 3.5mm from the dock sounded "better"

had more volume basically...everything else felt the same....
Then you're just being an ass again, and no I didn't read past your first sentence, really seeing reading any of your post in here, a waste of time. Because you just love to troll it up....
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:04 AM
  #12127  
stogie1020's Avatar
Needs more Lemon Pledge
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 52,768
Likes: 2,000
From: Phoenix, AZ
I think the question regarding audio quality really should focus on the source.


Will iTunes offer higher quality audio on their music and video from the iTunes store? Will they charge more for it?
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:13 AM
  #12128  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
Jupiter its funny how ONLY you think am trolling it up in here...

read the previous page or any other post....even in the current post, am not trying to be an ass, am actually trying to convince myself if I should go back to Apple (not that I am not happy with my Note3)....

It almost seems like you are instigating things up here and stirring up the pot...

As I mentioned, the whole point of a NEW connector would be if you ONLY use an iphone all the time....at work I have a windows laptop which DOES NOT have the lightning port...when I go for a run I use my MOTOACTV which DOES NOT have a lighting port....so by buying a headphone am limited to using that ONLY on the iphone...

and its a discussion thread...seems like your threshold is as tiny as...nevermind !!!
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:27 AM
  #12129  
Mizouse's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 64,122
Likes: 3,372
From: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
There's no point argueing with him.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:28 AM
  #12130  
Mizouse's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 64,122
Likes: 3,372
From: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Originally Posted by stogie1020
I think the question regarding audio quality really should focus on the source.


Will iTunes offer higher quality audio on their music and video from the iTunes store? Will they charge more for it?
It is rumored that they will offer higher quality audio. Dunno if they will charge more or not
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:31 AM
  #12131  
srika's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 64,153
Likes: 14,305
Originally Posted by stogie1020
I think the question regarding audio quality really should focus on the source.


Will iTunes offer higher quality audio on their music and video from the iTunes store? Will they charge more for it?
someone gets it.

That is the first part, next comes the audio engine, that being the sound being produced from the device - BOTH of these parts need work. And, as long as both of these need improvement, any sound arriving at the headphones is a moot point. Apple music devices have never been known for their sound quality.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:31 AM
  #12132  
Sarlacc's Avatar
The Third Ball
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 50,493
Likes: 5,869
From: Los Angeles, Ca
Originally Posted by stogie1020
I think the question regarding audio quality really should focus on the source.


Will iTunes offer higher quality audio on their music and video from the iTunes store? Will they charge more for it?
Pretty sure they will. And yes there will most likely be an up charge much like when they offered the 256 audio upgrades for a small fee.

And Im going to guess true audio files have been ripping and downloading loseloss top end files for years...and those are the ones who will really buy into this.

me...could care less.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:39 AM
  #12133  
stogie1020's Avatar
Needs more Lemon Pledge
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 52,768
Likes: 2,000
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by srika
someone gets it.

That is the first part, next comes the audio engine, that being the sound being produced from the device - BOTH of these parts need work. And, as long as both of these need improvement, any sound arriving at the headphones is a moot point. Apple music devices have never been known for their sound quality.
Neither have Beats headphones!

Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Pretty sure they will. And yes there will most likely be an up charge much like when they offered the 256 audio upgrades for a small fee.

And Im going to guess true audio files have been ripping and downloading loseloss top end files for years...and those are the ones who will really buy into this.

me...could care less.
Agreed, the people who care are ripping in lossless, for sure. I think a large part of this is a lack of innovation at Apple leading to the "purchase tech to incorporate to force upgrades" mentality versus the "lets really innovate and create a DESIRE for upgrade" that Jobs espoused. Think of how many people have apple laptops without thunderbolt...
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:40 AM
  #12134  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
^^^ I havent used the itunes store to buy music....so are there different prices for an album over different quality?

so say another couple bucks to download higher quality music from itunes?
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:48 AM
  #12135  
Sarlacc's Avatar
The Third Ball
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 50,493
Likes: 5,869
From: Los Angeles, Ca
Originally Posted by stogie1020
Neither have Beats headphones!



Agreed, the people who care are ripping in lossless, for sure. I think a large part of this is a lack of innovation at Apple leading to the "purchase tech to incorporate to force upgrades" mentality versus the "lets really innovate and create a DESIRE for upgrade" that Jobs espoused. Think of how many people have apple laptops without thunderbolt...
With apple purchasing beats, the rumor is they will up the actual quality of the product.

I disagree with this whole "lack of innovation" BS...You have a huge successful company...you want to expand into a certain area but you are not built up in that place with the right people/experience/equipment...You buy another company that can and absorb it. Its common business practice...its not the first time apple has done it...or google...or MS...or HP....etc etc etc etc

A lot of these "innovations" have come from smart business purchases of other companies.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:50 AM
  #12136  
Sarlacc's Avatar
The Third Ball
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 50,493
Likes: 5,869
From: Los Angeles, Ca
Originally Posted by swoosh
^^^ I havent used the itunes store to buy music....so are there different prices for an album over different quality?

so say another couple bucks to download higher quality music from itunes?
No. All music is at their current highest quality. Back when apple first offered a higher bit rate they offered a small upgrade fee for people who wanted it per song/album.

I only buy my music from the iTunes store now.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:51 AM
  #12137  
srika's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 64,153
Likes: 14,305
Originally Posted by stogie1020
Neither have Beats headphones!
yeah, I think they were just looking for some "hip" thing to latch on to, to give the company some (needed?) freshness.

http://time.com/74886/best-headphones/
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:55 AM
  #12138  
Sarlacc's Avatar
The Third Ball
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 50,493
Likes: 5,869
From: Los Angeles, Ca
Originally Posted by srika
yeah, I think they were just looking for some "hip" thing to latch on to, to give the company some (needed?) freshness.

http://time.com/74886/best-headphones/
yeah...thats why...
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:56 AM
  #12139  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
Originally Posted by srika
yeah, I think they were just looking for some "hip" thing to latch on to, to give the company some (needed?) freshness.

http://time.com/74886/best-headphones/
WOW Apple in ear are rated higher than Bose and Beats....didnt know they were that good...

maybe I will grab a set...my old Bose in ear are closing in on their end...I use the in-ear headphones which came with the wifey's S4 and they sound decently well....and stupid Samsung Galaxy Note series does not come with headphones (WTF BBQ Samsung) !!!
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:58 AM
  #12140  
srika's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 64,153
Likes: 14,305
Originally Posted by Sarlacc
yeah...thats why...
oh, I'm wrong? they were looking for crap headphones?
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 11:00 AM
  #12141  
CocheseUGA's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,761
Likes: 960
From: Kennesaw, GA
The big thing about potentially ditching the 3.5mm port is added space for other components or potentially reducing the depth more. Also makes for a cleaner design. Higher quality? As was said, the DAC has never been highly rated.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 11:01 AM
  #12142  
Sarlacc's Avatar
The Third Ball
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 50,493
Likes: 5,869
From: Los Angeles, Ca
Originally Posted by srika
oh, I'm wrong? they were looking for crap headphones?
streaming audio service genius.

and potentially Jimmy Iovine, who might be a key into unlocking media industry for them.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 11:44 AM
  #12143  
Mizouse's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 64,122
Likes: 3,372
From: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Originally Posted by swoosh
WOW Apple in ear are rated higher than Bose and Beats....didnt know they were that good...

maybe I will grab a set...my old Bose in ear are closing in on their end...I use the in-ear headphones which came with the wifey's S4 and they sound decently well....and stupid Samsung Galaxy Note series does not come with headphones (WTF BBQ Samsung) !!!
I'd hold off on buying, there are rumors of new ones coming out. Unles you need it now.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 11:52 AM
  #12144  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
Originally Posted by Mizouse
I'd hold off on buying, there are rumors of new ones coming out. Unles you need it now.
no sir...no urgent need....imma hold off then...Thank you
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2014 | 05:50 PM
  #12145  
Mizouse's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 64,122
Likes: 3,372
From: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
For iOS 8 beta 2
Safari: According to the release notes, Safari will now block ads from automatically redirecting to the App Store without user interaction. Safari also includes a new pinch to tab view.
FINALLY!!! I HATE when that shit happens.
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2014 | 10:42 AM
  #12146  
srika's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 64,153
Likes: 14,305
they even have manual exposure control available in the regular camera app now. very nice!

Reply
Old Jun 21, 2014 | 09:24 AM
  #12147  
Undying Dreams's Avatar
Race Director
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18,278
Likes: 3,827
From: South Florida
That's pretty cool
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2014 | 11:44 AM
  #12148  
Mizouse's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 64,122
Likes: 3,372
From: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Ugh, alright. Think I need to update my 5 to iOS 7.

Wifi doesn't work. LTE doesn't work. Battery life is shit. And lots of apps now only support iOS 7+

Reply
Old Jun 30, 2014 | 11:46 AM
  #12149  
Whiskers's Avatar
Go Giants
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 70,003
Likes: 1,260
From: PA
noob
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2014 | 11:47 AM
  #12150  
Mizouse's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 64,122
Likes: 3,372
From: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2014 | 12:06 PM
  #12151  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2014 | 12:09 PM
  #12152  
Mizouse's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 64,122
Likes: 3,372
From: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2014 | 11:32 PM
  #12153  
Mizouse's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 64,122
Likes: 3,372
From: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
4B3C4E7A-5E61-4390-A896-1A2AB2F2A7A9.png

Reply
Old Jun 30, 2014 | 11:53 PM
  #12154  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
So does this mean you won't upgrade to iOS8 until next year?
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2014 | 12:05 AM
  #12155  
Mizouse's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 64,122
Likes: 3,372
From: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2014 | 03:04 AM
  #12156  
Whiskers's Avatar
Go Giants
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 70,003
Likes: 1,260
From: PA
Welcome to 2013
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2014 | 08:54 AM
  #12157  
Undying Dreams's Avatar
Race Director
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18,278
Likes: 3,827
From: South Florida


Miz, why didn't you upgrade earlier?
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2014 | 09:26 AM
  #12158  
Mizouse's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 64,122
Likes: 3,372
From: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2014 | 10:22 AM
  #12159  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,733
From: Kansas City, MO
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2014 | 09:03 PM
  #12160  
is300eater's Avatar
I Shoot with a Camera
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 23,082
Likes: 3,683
From: Vancouver BC


<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/5R0_FJ4r73s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:22 PM.