Apple: iPhone News and Discussion Thread
12-20-2011, 09:58 AM
#8082
Because those Fruitloops, you know, those kind of people are bad ... They shouldn't be allowed on the Earth.
12-20-2011, 10:01 AM
#8083
12-20-2011, 10:03 AM
#8084
Play it again Siri ...
12-20-2011, 10:28 AM
#8086
12-20-2011, 10:42 AM
#8087
Sanest Florida Man
While it wasn't named in the suit, the feature that Apple patented in 1999 is part of Android and is in ALL android devices so they could (and probably will) go after all android devices that have this feature.
I already have a separate thread about this that I just bumped with the news
I already have a separate thread about this that I just bumped with the news
12-20-2011, 10:45 AM
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12-20-2011, 11:00 AM
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12-20-2011, 11:04 AM
#8091
Sanest Florida Man
^besides patent trolls I can only think of the Nokia lawsuit that they settled with Apple giving nokia $$$ and them signing a cross-licensing deal
12-20-2011, 11:07 AM
#8092
OK, Other than what Stunna posted, please name some. I don't see any to agree or disagree with you. But if you do have something, doesn't matter, IMO, the person that came up with it, it's there's.
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12-20-2011, 11:17 AM
#8093
Banned
Lock screen notifications from a multitude of different places.
Wi-fi sync (allegedly) from a dev.
These are just recent ones. Then again...
The problem with Apple winning this case is that the use is so ubiquitous over so many different pieces of hardware, software, platforms...I'm a firm believer in patent reform. This patent was applied for in 1999, and has been used so often since then, it's curious that HTC is the one they are going after so hard.
Oh wait, no it isn't. HTC is the stepping stone to Android.
12-20-2011, 11:20 AM
#8094
Safety Car
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/12...shouldnt-care/
12-20-2011, 11:21 AM
#8095
Safety Car
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/london/mot...hone-ipad/1435
12-20-2011, 11:21 AM
#8096
Sanest Florida Man
I don't think any phones in 1999 had this feature but maybe they can lose the patent because they didn't enforce it until now...
12-20-2011, 11:27 AM
#8097
Banned
Part of my problem with the patent process is that people are able to throw shit at a wall, and if it sticks five years later, profit.
I'm fairly sure I was able to do this with my Blackjack, and WM5 was OUT before the iPhone was even a marketable option.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the wording of the patent also applies to things like Google Chrome and Voice on my PC.
The patent is too vaguely worded, and I blame that on the morons in the patent office. Patent reform needs to happen, and it needs to happen now.
I'm fairly sure I was able to do this with my Blackjack, and WM5 was OUT before the iPhone was even a marketable option.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the wording of the patent also applies to things like Google Chrome and Voice on my PC.
The patent is too vaguely worded, and I blame that on the morons in the patent office. Patent reform needs to happen, and it needs to happen now.
12-20-2011, 11:29 AM
#8098
Safety Car
Part of my problem with the patent process is that people are able to throw shit at a wall, and if it sticks five years later, profit.
I'm fairly sure I was able to do this with my Blackjack, and WM5 was OUT before the iPhone was even a marketable option.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the wording of the patent also applies to things like Google Chrome and Voice on my PC.
The patent is too vaguely worded, and I blame that on the morons in the patent office. Patent reform needs to happen, and it needs to happen now.
I'm fairly sure I was able to do this with my Blackjack, and WM5 was OUT before the iPhone was even a marketable option.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the wording of the patent also applies to things like Google Chrome and Voice on my PC.
The patent is too vaguely worded, and I blame that on the morons in the patent office. Patent reform needs to happen, and it needs to happen now.
12-20-2011, 11:30 AM
#8099
Sanest Florida Man
Apple had similar features back in mac OS way before smartphones
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...id_phones.html
Apple's years of work of Data Detectors
Apple's Advanced Technology Group invented Data Detectors in the mid 1990s, allowing an operating system to recognize formatted data (such as a phone number or email address) within an unstructured document, enabling the user to take action upon the data recognized.
The feature was added to Mac OS 8 in 1997 as a contextual menu plugin (above), but didn't make it to Mac OS X until Leopard 10.5 in 2008. Along the way, Data Detectors evolved into an automated technology initially called LiveDoc, where recognized data was automatically highlighted.
On Mac OS X, the feature enables users to perform actions such as clicking on information (such as in an email signature) to automatically create a new contact entry or selecting a highlighted date in order to set up a new calendar event. Since Snow Leopard in 2009, the feature has been activated for any documents managed by Core Text.
That same year, iOS 3.0 also incorporated the technology, allowing users to see email addresses and phone numbers as hyperlinks that can be touched to place a call, send a text, or compose an email.
Apple's Advanced Technology Group invented Data Detectors in the mid 1990s, allowing an operating system to recognize formatted data (such as a phone number or email address) within an unstructured document, enabling the user to take action upon the data recognized.
The feature was added to Mac OS 8 in 1997 as a contextual menu plugin (above), but didn't make it to Mac OS X until Leopard 10.5 in 2008. Along the way, Data Detectors evolved into an automated technology initially called LiveDoc, where recognized data was automatically highlighted.
On Mac OS X, the feature enables users to perform actions such as clicking on information (such as in an email signature) to automatically create a new contact entry or selecting a highlighted date in order to set up a new calendar event. Since Snow Leopard in 2009, the feature has been activated for any documents managed by Core Text.
That same year, iOS 3.0 also incorporated the technology, allowing users to see email addresses and phone numbers as hyperlinks that can be touched to place a call, send a text, or compose an email.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...id_phones.html
12-20-2011, 11:35 AM
#8100
Sanest Florida Man
I don't know of another OS that recognized URL in a plain text editor especially not in the 1990s, Windows doesn't even have that feature today...
12-20-2011, 11:35 AM
#8101
Sanest Florida Man
Most software patents are lame but this one seems legit to me...
12-20-2011, 11:38 AM
#8102
Safety Car
Yet they didn't go after any other manufacturers back in the day. Dumbphones have had it for as long as I can remember. Open up a browser in your dumbphone and it gave you a link to click for phone numbers, addresses, etc.
12-20-2011, 11:41 AM
#8104
And all of the hate Apple because of their patents come out.
Doesn't matter what effing company does it, they should pay or not use. Just because it's cool and you want to use it doesn't mean
. Just like how everybody thinks that because someone steals and puts music, movies, and TV's shows on a torrent they are entitled to own it. If you didn't make it, you don't flipping own it, so let the courts settle it.
Doesn't matter what effing company does it, they should pay or not use. Just because it's cool and you want to use it doesn't mean
. Just like how everybody thinks that because someone steals and puts music, movies, and TV's shows on a torrent they are entitled to own it. If you didn't make it, you don't flipping own it, so let the courts settle it.
12-20-2011, 11:41 AM
#8105
Sanest Florida Man
it's possible they licensed it with those companies like they licensed the scrolling page with Nokia and IBM and those may not have qualified as "unstructured documents"
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12-20-2011, 11:44 AM
#8106
Safety Car
And all of the hate Apple because of their patents come out.
Doesn't matter what effing company does it, they should pay or not use. Just because it's cool and you want to use it doesn't mean. Just like how everybody thinks that because someone steals and puts music, movies, and TV's shows on a torrent they are entitled to own it. If you didn't make it, you don't flipping own it, so let the courts settle it.
Doesn't matter what effing company does it, they should pay or not use. Just because it's cool and you want to use it doesn't mean
. Just like how everybody thinks that because someone steals and puts music, movies, and TV's shows on a torrent they are entitled to own it. If you didn't make it, you don't flipping own it, so let the courts settle it.
12-20-2011, 11:52 AM
#8108
And that's why it's competition. Don't use someone else's patent to compete against them. Taking another's idea to compete against them and try to put them out of business.
This bullshit that it's best for everyone (customers) to have is just
12-20-2011, 11:54 AM
#8109
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12-20-2011, 11:57 AM
#8111
Safety Car
Umm...have you read any of their patents? They're so broad that most of the articles and descriptions from programmers I've read all say the same thing which goes along the not sure exactly what this patent covers because the patent description is so generic. I would agree with you if the patent system was revised. At the moment, you can patent things as broad as you want them to be. And with that I'm done with the patent talks.
12-20-2011, 01:55 PM
#8112
Bent = #1
12-20-2011, 01:59 PM
#8113
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12-20-2011, 03:01 PM
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Here we go again with people not understanding what just went down and the media outlets blowing it out of proportion. First off, the patent is BS as the feature can be found in all dumbphones ever created. Its so generic that you have to wonder how they were even awarded such patent but that's why the system needs to be revamped and probably won't happen any time soon. You'll see more patent trolling for sure. The ruling only affected Donut to Froyo. Which means all the old phones that they never upgraded. If anything this is getting rid of fragmentation as it forces HTC to upgrade their phones to avoid litigation. (And maybe finally get rid of bloated Sense). HTC already has a UI fix in place to avoid the ban as well. So no, they won't stop selling phones by HTC.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/12...shouldnt-care/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/12...shouldnt-care/
Learn to read.
12-27-2011, 08:49 AM
#8117
^ soooo negative 
REDSN0W IS FINALLY OUT!
iOS 5.0.1 Untethered Jailbreak Supported Devices
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iPod touch 4G
iPod touch 3G
iPad 1
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REDSN0W IS FINALLY OUT!
iOS 5.0.1 Untethered Jailbreak Supported Devices
iPhone 4 (GSM – CDMA)
iPhone 3GS
iPod touch 4G
iPod touch 3G
iPad 1
http://cydiahelp.com/jailbreak-5.0.1...10b1-tutroial/
12-27-2011, 04:42 PM
#8118
Nom Nom Nom Nom
I don't even think I am going to screw with jailbreaking this time around.. The only reason I would jailbreak before was for lockscreen info and 5 icons on the bottom. It has been so long since I have been without both of those that I have gotten used to it just being regular.
12-27-2011, 07:42 PM
#8119
Go Giants
I don't even think I am going to screw with jailbreaking this time around.. The only reason I would jailbreak before was for lockscreen info and 5 icons on the bottom. It has been so long since I have been without both of those that I have gotten used to it just being regular.
12-28-2011, 08:24 AM
#8120
You have nothing to lose bur only to gain... SBsettings is what I've missed the most.