Android: Phone News and Discussion Thread
#3882
Went to the mall and tried out the Galaxy S II. It was at a Samsung booth with the phone and some of their tablets, maybe something else as well. It appeared to be a full functioning phone but it was slightly laggy while using the browser. Like a tenth of a second delay before th swipe registered. That wasnt normal I assume... And hipe
#3883
Possibly a lot of apps running in the background or they haven't rebooted the phone in a while. The Galaxy S II should have hardware acceleration built into its browser and among other parts of the phone. Its one of the things that TouchWiz adds onto the phone without the need for ICS. Also, if its the T-Mobile version, it uses a different processor which is slightly slower than the other variants because of the CPU they had to use.
#3884
I've been getting some awesome battery life with the latest Fugu Kernel on CM 7 nightlies. Its pretty crazy:
On WiFi, I barely get any battery drain. I'm talking about 2-3% per hour which is crazy. On 3G/HSPA it drains about 4-5% per hour. I'm not sure what he's done but its awesome. My daily usage consists of being on 3G/HSPA for about 9 hours and WiFi afterwards, AutoSync, GPS all on, 30% brightness; Tweetdeck, Facebook and G+ syncing in the background every 30 mins; play music for about an hour total during my drive; talk on the phone a total of 30 minutes to 1 hour; texts about 50-100 incoming and receiving along with emails that come in. The biggest dip above was a YM video chat with the gf for about 20 minutes over WiFi.
Current setup is BFQ and Smartass v2. UV of -50, -50, -100, -125, -150. I can probably squeeze in more battery if I change it to CFQ and Ondemand but I like the performance I've been getting out of BFQ.
The kernel is based on Linux 3.0 and performance has been awesome. My phone feels so fast even though I'm not overclocked. Not using the KickAss kernel on this one so my homescreen refreshes once in a while but its a minor inconvenience at this point. If someones ported the Fugu Kernel for the other Galaxy variants, I suggest you guys give it a try. You'll need to do a factory reset though because the kernel is based on a newer version than the nightlies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1112568
On WiFi, I barely get any battery drain. I'm talking about 2-3% per hour which is crazy. On 3G/HSPA it drains about 4-5% per hour. I'm not sure what he's done but its awesome. My daily usage consists of being on 3G/HSPA for about 9 hours and WiFi afterwards, AutoSync, GPS all on, 30% brightness; Tweetdeck, Facebook and G+ syncing in the background every 30 mins; play music for about an hour total during my drive; talk on the phone a total of 30 minutes to 1 hour; texts about 50-100 incoming and receiving along with emails that come in. The biggest dip above was a YM video chat with the gf for about 20 minutes over WiFi.
Current setup is BFQ and Smartass v2. UV of -50, -50, -100, -125, -150. I can probably squeeze in more battery if I change it to CFQ and Ondemand but I like the performance I've been getting out of BFQ.
The kernel is based on Linux 3.0 and performance has been awesome. My phone feels so fast even though I'm not overclocked. Not using the KickAss kernel on this one so my homescreen refreshes once in a while but its a minor inconvenience at this point. If someones ported the Fugu Kernel for the other Galaxy variants, I suggest you guys give it a try. You'll need to do a factory reset though because the kernel is based on a newer version than the nightlies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1112568
Last edited by CGFebTSX04; 10-29-2011 at 01:51 AM.
#3886
Lol. Hopefully, she doesn't interpret it that way if she ever comes across Acurazine. I actually get better battery life with stock TouchWiz Roms but I need my adhoc. CM7 is getting better battery wise but Samsung implemented something else in their RIL to make the phone idle even better with stock ROMs that CM doesn't have access to due to propriety drivers. With that said, I haven't gotten this great of a battery life with CM7 until just recently with this kernel and its also fast which is a plus. I think its the BFQ that's helping with the speed difference but I can't say for sure. Makes the whole waiting to get a new phone much more bearable. They're already working on getting ICS on the Galaxy S and have it running on the Vibrant. Waiting for them to have it become stable on the international version before I try it out. hehe.
#3888
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=galaxys2att
#3889
civicdrvr
I put the franko kernel on NSCollab 1.0.50 and it was running good but it did a reboot and it never came back up. I pulled the battery and turned it on. For like 4 min it was just on the boot up screen so I just went to a backup.
Does Franko just take a long time to turn on??
Maybe I should just try the CM7.1 and live with ADW launcher
I put the franko kernel on NSCollab 1.0.50 and it was running good but it did a reboot and it never came back up. I pulled the battery and turned it on. For like 4 min it was just on the boot up screen so I just went to a backup.
Does Franko just take a long time to turn on??
Maybe I should just try the CM7.1 and live with ADW launcher
#3890
civicdrvr
I put the franko kernel on NSCollab 1.0.50 and it was running good but it did a reboot and it never came back up. I pulled the battery and turned it on. For like 4 min it was just on the boot up screen so I just went to a backup.
Does Franko just take a long time to turn on??
Maybe I should just try the CM7.1 and live with ADW launcher
I put the franko kernel on NSCollab 1.0.50 and it was running good but it did a reboot and it never came back up. I pulled the battery and turned it on. For like 4 min it was just on the boot up screen so I just went to a backup.
Does Franko just take a long time to turn on??
Maybe I should just try the CM7.1 and live with ADW launcher
Im running Nightly 237 with Matrix 9.5, 400/1300, smartassV2, and +5mV over the stock voltages and its stable. My first NS had no problems running stock or even undervolted, but this replacement doesnt really like the stock voltages. According to CPUSpy, aside from deep sleep mode, the phone spends most of its time 1000mhz.
#3891
ohh okk, well I dont need to overclock so I'm fine with that. Maybe with all my problems thats been happening I just need a new wipe, because I've gone backwards in flashing, I dont think thats something I'm suppose to do without a wipe
#3892
If youre talking about going backwards with the kernels, as long as you wipe the cache you should be good. But if Im making a drastic change, I usually do a full wipe/reinstall. Titanium Backup comes in handy for that.
#3893
i was talking about going backwards in ROMS, I just get lazy sometimes and dont wanna deal with a full wipe lol
I did a full wipe, installed latest NScollab and franko kernel.
Phone froze on me when I was texting already. NScollab needs an update asap...
I did a full wipe, installed latest NScollab and franko kernel.
Phone froze on me when I was texting already. NScollab needs an update asap...
#3898
I didn't want to start a new thread but I recently signed up for Sprint Mobile Hot Spot through my Evo. Sprint just started a 5GB monthly cap (used to be unlimited) on the Hot Spot but it was only $29.99 and I can cancel anytime so I thought I'd give it a shot.
I find watching videos on Youtube to be problematic on both my HP netbook and my Nook Color. The video constantly pauses and it's a frustrating endeavor at best. Is this something I just need to live with? If it is, I'll just cancel the Mobile Hot Spot and watch videos on my Evo which doesn't pause at all.
TIA.
I find watching videos on Youtube to be problematic on both my HP netbook and my Nook Color. The video constantly pauses and it's a frustrating endeavor at best. Is this something I just need to live with? If it is, I'll just cancel the Mobile Hot Spot and watch videos on my Evo which doesn't pause at all.
TIA.
#3900
I didn't want to start a new thread but I recently signed up for Sprint Mobile Hot Spot through my Evo. Sprint just started a 5GB monthly cap (used to be unlimited) on the Hot Spot but it was only $29.99 and I can cancel anytime so I thought I'd give it a shot.
I find watching videos on Youtube to be problematic on both my HP netbook and my Nook Color. The video constantly pauses and it's a frustrating endeavor at best. Is this something I just need to live with? If it is, I'll just cancel the Mobile Hot Spot and watch videos on my Evo which doesn't pause at all.
TIA.
I find watching videos on Youtube to be problematic on both my HP netbook and my Nook Color. The video constantly pauses and it's a frustrating endeavor at best. Is this something I just need to live with? If it is, I'll just cancel the Mobile Hot Spot and watch videos on my Evo which doesn't pause at all.
TIA.
#3901
Its due to XP and gpu. My friend is a IT tech and sold my mom a Acer netbook. He installed Windows 7 Basic on it which runs flawlessly. Youtube also runs video's 480p and under smoothly. It's not going to run vids in HD (720p/1080p) smooth at all.
#3902
#3903
If anything i'd root my phone with a rom that has wi/fi hot spot then its free. If you choose against this make sure your phone is getting a good strong signal and all should be fine. I'd use my mobile hotspot on Sprint on the road for my passengers to be on their laptops while on the 3.5hr drive from Wilmington to Charlotte and it worked well. Wilmington I'd see a max speed in 3g of about 1mb/s and up to 3mb/s in and around Charlotte. All-in-All it's a great feature to have.
Evo is getting strong signal, I live on a small island so 3G coverage is excellent throughout. 4G not so much. I tried video at my office downtown and at the crib and both times and on both the Nook and netbook, video stops and stutters constantly. Literally takes 20 minutes to watch a 5 min video.
How do you feel about the 5GB data cap? Do you even come close to approaching it. I've tried to find how much data I'm using through the Mobile Hot Spot but it's not listed on Sprintpcs.com.
#3904
New Market update leaked:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11...cuts-and-more/
New:
-New setting: Auto-update apps (presumably, sets all apps to auto-update mode, woohoo!)
-New setting: Update over Wi-Fi only
-New setting: Auto-add shortcuts (automatically adds homescreen shortcuts for new apps, ala Honeycomb)
-Smaller font
-New app drawer icon
-Microphone (voice command) button in search menu
-Star rating chart on app pages
-Minor UI tweaks
I just flashed it, no need to remove the old Market from your device. It may not work on Honeycomb tablets.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11...cuts-and-more/
New:
-New setting: Auto-update apps (presumably, sets all apps to auto-update mode, woohoo!)
-New setting: Update over Wi-Fi only
-New setting: Auto-add shortcuts (automatically adds homescreen shortcuts for new apps, ala Honeycomb)
-Smaller font
-New app drawer icon
-Microphone (voice command) button in search menu
-Star rating chart on app pages
-Minor UI tweaks
I just flashed it, no need to remove the old Market from your device. It may not work on Honeycomb tablets.
Last edited by civicdrivr; 11-01-2011 at 09:44 PM.
#3906
I havent heard anything yet. I know overseas its being released on the 17th IIRC. I dont think Verizon has made a date official either. But, since they removed the "exclusively on Verizon" tag from their ads, maybe that means it will be hitting TMo/ATT sooner then later.
#3907
I havent heard anything yet. I know overseas its being released on the 17th IIRC. I dont think Verizon has made a date official either. But, since they removed the "exclusively on Verizon" tag from their ads, maybe that means it will be hitting TMo/ATT sooner then later.
All I know is that I want to know how much money I need to save up for the phone and when to expect it. lol. There are some pre-orders on eBay going for around $600 on up. However, not sure if you want to trust them yet. I would wait until the phones are physically out first.
Follow this thread on XDA for more info as it comes. Some people on XDA jumped on the $599 32 GB on eBay but I would wait it out until something more official comes out as it sounds too good to be true:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1323713
Spreadsheet of where you can pre-order and how much:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...UpNOHdXR1oyVlE
#3908
I havent heard anything yet. I know overseas its being released on the 17th IIRC. I dont think Verizon has made a date official either. But, since they removed the "exclusively on Verizon" tag from their ads, maybe that means it will be hitting TMo/ATT sooner then later.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11...-black-friday/
#3909
So CG brought up the reason of security for why android devices dont take screenshots since apps run in the background all the time, which is a good point that I hadn't thought of.
That got me thinking what are the real world benefits of androids multitasking in comparison to say iOS where apps are suspended and quickly resumed except for certain cases like gps, audio, task completion and others. Is there some real world benefit that I'm missing out on that android can do that iOS can't? Not trying to be hostile just curious....
That got me thinking what are the real world benefits of androids multitasking in comparison to say iOS where apps are suspended and quickly resumed except for certain cases like gps, audio, task completion and others. Is there some real world benefit that I'm missing out on that android can do that iOS can't? Not trying to be hostile just curious....
#3910
For normal users, the multitasking won't be a big differentiator. For power users, there's a difference but its not as big as it used to be with the introduction of iOS 4. iOS also sorta fills in the gaps for multitasking with their push notifications which I'll admit, sucks pretty hard for Android. The majority of apps that use push notifications on Android, fail at implementing them, which almost necessitate the multitasking nature for Android by running services the come in and out every set interval in the background which eat up RAM. This has two effects, more battery consumption and not being up to date immediately with said notifications. With that said, there are apps that use push notifications very well such as GMail and other Email apps. How one works vs. the other is beyond me.
To compare the multitasking nature, you also have to consider RAM in the phone. I think most people using Android phones with less than 512 MB of RAM have had crappy experience with the multitasking feature as they're limited as to how many apps they can be running all at once. 512 MB is a minimum to better experience it and is a lot better with 1 GB. For Multitasking in Android, you just hold the Home button to bring your most recently used apps. Depending on how the app was coded, it can have two states: First state is similar to the iPhone, where it pauses everything and stops working when you go away from it; the second state is where the app continues to run in the background even when you switch away from it (Google Maps Navigation while streaming Music and having notifications cut in and out automatically, Downloading a file in the browser while you're in another app, Emulators running in the background while you answer a phone call, etc.). The second is what differentiates Android's vs. iOS's multitasking. Both methods are constrained by the amount of RAM you have and the way Android clears out space for more memory usage which is why Task Killers are a big no no for Android as it automates this for you.
So in the end, it really depends on how the app was coded for multitasking. Does it pause and suspend like it does in iOS or does it continue to run in the background. For the majority of apps, they get suspended in the background just like iOS to conserve battery. There's a little more to it but without writing up a thesis, that's the best way I can explain it really. lol.
To compare the multitasking nature, you also have to consider RAM in the phone. I think most people using Android phones with less than 512 MB of RAM have had crappy experience with the multitasking feature as they're limited as to how many apps they can be running all at once. 512 MB is a minimum to better experience it and is a lot better with 1 GB. For Multitasking in Android, you just hold the Home button to bring your most recently used apps. Depending on how the app was coded, it can have two states: First state is similar to the iPhone, where it pauses everything and stops working when you go away from it; the second state is where the app continues to run in the background even when you switch away from it (Google Maps Navigation while streaming Music and having notifications cut in and out automatically, Downloading a file in the browser while you're in another app, Emulators running in the background while you answer a phone call, etc.). The second is what differentiates Android's vs. iOS's multitasking. Both methods are constrained by the amount of RAM you have and the way Android clears out space for more memory usage which is why Task Killers are a big no no for Android as it automates this for you.
So in the end, it really depends on how the app was coded for multitasking. Does it pause and suspend like it does in iOS or does it continue to run in the background. For the majority of apps, they get suspended in the background just like iOS to conserve battery. There's a little more to it but without writing up a thesis, that's the best way I can explain it really. lol.
Last edited by CGFebTSX04; 11-02-2011 at 01:27 AM.
#3912
Yeah with iOS 4, they sorta filled that gap. Those are just the things off the top of my head but there are a few instances where Android's implementation works a little better. It really depends on how the app decides to use the feature and how much RAM your phone has more than anything.
#3913
The updated Android Market is a lot faster than the previous ones. Really liking the steps Google is taking with their updates until ICS drops. I guess they're trying to ease the transition into ICS by giving everyone a taste of whats to come.
#3914
IIRC the way google does their multitasking can be a lot more draining on the battery, which basically depends on the app and how it acts in the background.
With apple's push notifications it allows it to save more battery by limiting the amount of data usage and app is using, I think.
With apple's push notifications it allows it to save more battery by limiting the amount of data usage and app is using, I think.
#3915
Looks like people got ICS to start being more functional on the NS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1313337
I'm tempted... maybe tomorrow hmmm I wonder if they ported it and adjusted it for the device though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1313337
I'm tempted... maybe tomorrow hmmm I wonder if they ported it and adjusted it for the device though.
#3917
The Galaxy S version is also making some progress. They're using stuff from the Nexus S build which is expected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1324556
Waiting for it to be fairly usable before I start playing with ICS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1324556
Waiting for it to be fairly usable before I start playing with ICS.
#3918
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Yeah with iOS 4, they sorta filled that gap. Those are just the things off the top of my head but there are a few instances where Android's implementation works a little better. It really depends on how the app decides to use the feature and how much RAM your phone has more than anything.
#3919
So there's word that the Galaxy Nexus is ready to launch and its up to Verizon and Canada at this point to just announce it. Verizon, like I said earlier, is not making a big deal with this phone because they don't have their bloatware on it. Google seems to be updating all of their apps to get them ready for the ICS transition and we'll probably see all of them get updated right before ICS drops. (Google Reader and Docs got updated today, Market and G+ the other day, Maps a few days ago. GMail and Music is probably coming up.) We'll probably get an announcement any day now if the chatter is correct. Some people are saying a launch date of November 10th for Verizon. That Black Friday thing was in regards to marketing. The GSM versions will probably come a few days after.
#3920
Possible Facebook Push Notifications Fix? Can Anyone Confirm?
So apparently, someone figured out how to get Facebook push notifications to work on Android using a Blackberry device. Kinda odd, but it seems that allowing the Blackberry Facebook app permissions to your account will allow push notifications to work on Android. I don't have a Blackberry so I'm currently downloading the BB Simulator but its taking a while for me to get it. For the people who have BB devices, try the steps in the forum to get push notifications to work:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/and...ns-solved.html
Quick summary of instructions:
- For people who had a BB device and used the Facebook app on there before, you will probably need to remove the app's permissions from your App settings in Facebook before doing all of this.
- Sign out of Facebook in the Android app.
- Log in the Facebook app with the BB and give Facebook permissions to use it. Also turn on push notifications in the BB Facebook app.
- Let the newsfeed load then sign out of Facebook on the BB.
- Sign in Facebook on Android and let it sync up. Push notifications should now work. It doesn't matter how long the update interval you set in settings as it should be all push notifications now.
- If it stops working after a while. Clear your data in the Facebook app in Android. If it still doesn't work, redo all of the steps above.
Waiting for the Simulator to download then I'll give it a try. This has bugged me for as long as I can remember and is one of the reasons I don't use Facebook as much. Will report back when my download finishes in about an hour. lol.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/and...ns-solved.html
Quick summary of instructions:
- For people who had a BB device and used the Facebook app on there before, you will probably need to remove the app's permissions from your App settings in Facebook before doing all of this.
- Sign out of Facebook in the Android app.
- Log in the Facebook app with the BB and give Facebook permissions to use it. Also turn on push notifications in the BB Facebook app.
- Let the newsfeed load then sign out of Facebook on the BB.
- Sign in Facebook on Android and let it sync up. Push notifications should now work. It doesn't matter how long the update interval you set in settings as it should be all push notifications now.
- If it stops working after a while. Clear your data in the Facebook app in Android. If it still doesn't work, redo all of the steps above.
Waiting for the Simulator to download then I'll give it a try. This has bugged me for as long as I can remember and is one of the reasons I don't use Facebook as much. Will report back when my download finishes in about an hour. lol.