Android: Phone News and Discussion Thread
#322
Suzuka Master
I've got the older version of Sync that lets you sideload if you need it. I hope AT&T didn't convince them to pull it, if so that's BS on HTC's part for giving in. I know apple fights them tooth and nail over iPhone functionality. At any rate there are still multiple ways you can sideload even with the stock ROM.
#323
Safety Car
I'm not too familiar with what custom ROMs are available for the Hero but from the stable ones would be the Eclair ROMs (2.1). The unstable ones with new features would be the Froyo ROMs (2.2) like Cyanogenmod 6. Each ROM will differ with whatever the devs put in so you'll have to read what people are saying about them and try them out yourself.
Like I said earlier, its very difficult to brick your phone trying to flash a custom ROM. You can always make a nandroid backup of your current ROM and restore it real quickly. Nandroid basically does a backup of the whole system image. Do a nandroid when trying out new ROMs should anything go wrong.
#324
Safety Car
Apparently there was a secret code hidden (I didn't see it lol.) in the Droid X Video trailer I posted up earlier that leads you to the complete commercial on the DroidDoes website:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiaRA...layer_embedded
Source: http://phandroid.com/2010/07/16/unlo...droiddoes-com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiaRA...layer_embedded
Source: http://phandroid.com/2010/07/16/unlo...droiddoes-com/
#325
Safety Car
Looks like the Nexus One is not going to be sold by Google anymore online.
http://googlenexusoneboard.blogspot....hanges-in.html
And AT&T just pulled off another bait and switch. The Captivate's unsubsidized price is now $499 instead of the $349 the reps kept saying it was. I guess it was too good to be true. Some people were able to get them for $299 and $349, however yesteday. So they got lucky unless AT&T somehow charges them for the price difference via service fees or something. I'm sure they'll find a way. Guess I'll be looking at the European Galaxy S if I'm gonna be paying that price.
http://googlenexusoneboard.blogspot....hanges-in.html
And AT&T just pulled off another bait and switch. The Captivate's unsubsidized price is now $499 instead of the $349 the reps kept saying it was. I guess it was too good to be true. Some people were able to get them for $299 and $349, however yesteday. So they got lucky unless AT&T somehow charges them for the price difference via service fees or something. I'm sure they'll find a way. Guess I'll be looking at the European Galaxy S if I'm gonna be paying that price.
#327
Suzuka Master
Looks like the Nexus One is not going to be sold by Google anymore online.
http://googlenexusoneboard.blogspot....hanges-in.html
And AT&T just pulled off another bait and switch. The Captivate's unsubsidized price is now $499 instead of the $349 the reps kept saying it was. I guess it was too good to be true. Some people were able to get them for $299 and $349, however yesteday. So they got lucky unless AT&T somehow charges them for the price difference via service fees or something. I'm sure they'll find a way. Guess I'll be looking at the European Galaxy S if I'm gonna be paying that price.
http://googlenexusoneboard.blogspot....hanges-in.html
And AT&T just pulled off another bait and switch. The Captivate's unsubsidized price is now $499 instead of the $349 the reps kept saying it was. I guess it was too good to be true. Some people were able to get them for $299 and $349, however yesteday. So they got lucky unless AT&T somehow charges them for the price difference via service fees or something. I'm sure they'll find a way. Guess I'll be looking at the European Galaxy S if I'm gonna be paying that price.
#328
Safety Car
Hitler's reaction to the new unsubsidized price for the Samsung Captivate:
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe2...new-captiv_fun
These videos never get old.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe2...new-captiv_fun
These videos never get old.
#329
Safety Car
Here's a good review of the Captivate and the Vibrant (Samsung Galaxy S variants) from CNN:
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/07/...att-captivate/
They also have some vids of the phone in action compared to other phones. Looks like they're getting good reviews all around.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/07/...att-captivate/
Screen:
This the the best screen I've seen on a phone, period. That's coming from someone who has been using an iPhone 4's Retina Display for the past few weeks. Sure there are more pixels on the iPhone 4 (most of which I can't see) but the Galaxy's much larger four-inch, Super AMOLED display more than makes up for the lacking pixels. If you have any doubts, check out the Avatar video that T-Mobile includes with their phone. Not one person I've shown this to hasn't been blown away (expletives abound).
Overall:
If you can look past the (fixable?) GPS issue and the other small annoyances of the Samsung/Carrier Android software overlays, this is an incredible phone. The screen, weight and form factor is the best available in any phone right now, bar none. The camera doesn't have a Flash and doesn't face forward but is otherwise right up there with the best as well. The OS is a skinned (for better or worse) Android 2.1 with Froyo coming soon.
This the the best screen I've seen on a phone, period. That's coming from someone who has been using an iPhone 4's Retina Display for the past few weeks. Sure there are more pixels on the iPhone 4 (most of which I can't see) but the Galaxy's much larger four-inch, Super AMOLED display more than makes up for the lacking pixels. If you have any doubts, check out the Avatar video that T-Mobile includes with their phone. Not one person I've shown this to hasn't been blown away (expletives abound).
Overall:
If you can look past the (fixable?) GPS issue and the other small annoyances of the Samsung/Carrier Android software overlays, this is an incredible phone. The screen, weight and form factor is the best available in any phone right now, bar none. The camera doesn't have a Flash and doesn't face forward but is otherwise right up there with the best as well. The OS is a skinned (for better or worse) Android 2.1 with Froyo coming soon.
#330
Team Owner
I'm scared of Sammy with the Impression that I have although it's the top of the line dumbphone. However I had to get it replaced once for a dead touch screen and it happened again as I was giong to use it for hard work and the touch was dead again.
#331
Here's a good review of the Captivate and the Vibrant (Samsung Galaxy S variants) from CNN:
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/07/...att-captivate/
They also have some vids of the phone in action compared to other phones. Looks like they're getting good reviews all around.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/07/...att-captivate/
They also have some vids of the phone in action compared to other phones. Looks like they're getting good reviews all around.
#336
Safety Car
Supposedly, Samsung knows about the GPS and is issuing a fix in the next firmware update. The people at XDA made a fix already. lol. Gotta love open source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728894
Oh and Wesgarner has decided to pick up development for the phone so we may see Cyanogenmod on the phone sooner than expected. And the good thing is, the ROMs should be interchangeable with all Galaxy S phones with slight modifications. At least, thats the theory. We shall see in the next couple of weeks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728894
Oh and Wesgarner has decided to pick up development for the phone so we may see Cyanogenmod on the phone sooner than expected. And the good thing is, the ROMs should be interchangeable with all Galaxy S phones with slight modifications. At least, thats the theory. We shall see in the next couple of weeks.
#337
1st TL-S on air in
iTrader: (2)
cyanogen released a nightly build for the Evo. There are still some issues that need to be worked out but i think it will be probably another week or so before an official release is out. check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729367
#338
Supposedly, Samsung knows about the GPS and is issuing a fix in the next firmware update. The people at XDA made a fix already. lol. Gotta love open source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728894
Oh and Wesgarner has decided to pick up development for the phone so we may see Cyanogenmod on the phone sooner than expected. And the good thing is, the ROMs should be interchangeable with all Galaxy S phones with slight modifications. At least, thats the theory. We shall see in the next couple of weeks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728894
Oh and Wesgarner has decided to pick up development for the phone so we may see Cyanogenmod on the phone sooner than expected. And the good thing is, the ROMs should be interchangeable with all Galaxy S phones with slight modifications. At least, thats the theory. We shall see in the next couple of weeks.
cyanogen released a nightly build for the Evo. There are still some issues that need to be worked out but i think it will be probably another week or so before an official release is out. check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729367
"There is another thread in general evo discussion and it has like 140 pages and growing and there is a lot of mess."
#339
Safety Car
Yeah. Those devs move fast. The Cyanogenmod on my phone is pretty stable. I've been using it since last week and I think its better than his Eclair build and its not even final yet. lol.
#340
I just joined xda-developers.com so I could see a pic of a custom prototype CLEAR battery cover door for teh EVO... pretty cool idea, since the inside of the back of the phone is red...
this is the link, but I think you have to be a member to see the pic... one of the members is doing a custom mold at his job and then will produce them for others... they are talkin about doing one for the Aria b/c it has a yellow battery area...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...721211&page=10
this is the link, but I think you have to be a member to see the pic... one of the members is doing a custom mold at his job and then will produce them for others... they are talkin about doing one for the Aria b/c it has a yellow battery area...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...721211&page=10
Last edited by DarkSithCL; 07-19-2010 at 09:02 PM.
#341
I feel like I am in a foreign land...
That final build is gonna be da sickness! I mentioned modding a phone to some peeps and their brains just shut down... I was like LOL... I was trying to mod my HTC TP1, but it became so unstable, that I had to bring it back to stock... winmo was such a waste of my time...
#342
Safety Car
woah..that dev site is crazy!
I feel like I am in a foreign land...
That final build is gonna be da sickness! I mentioned modding a phone to some peeps and their brains just shut down... I was like LOL... I was trying to mod my HTC TP1, but it became so unstable, that I had to bring it back to stock... winmo was such a waste of my time...
I feel like I am in a foreign land...
That final build is gonna be da sickness! I mentioned modding a phone to some peeps and their brains just shut down... I was like LOL... I was trying to mod my HTC TP1, but it became so unstable, that I had to bring it back to stock... winmo was such a waste of my time...
Cyanogen is trying to incorporate a lot of new features that the he and his group coded into the ROMs like the extra bluetooth HID support. His builds actually have some cool new features that aren't found in the original Google code. Can't wait for his stable build, should be a little bit faster than whats out now.
#344
1st TL-S on air in
iTrader: (2)
woah..that dev site is crazy!
I feel like I am in a foreign land...
That final build is gonna be da sickness! I mentioned modding a phone to some peeps and their brains just shut down... I was like LOL... I was trying to mod my HTC TP1, but it became so unstable, that I had to bring it back to stock... winmo was such a waste of my time...
I feel like I am in a foreign land...
That final build is gonna be da sickness! I mentioned modding a phone to some peeps and their brains just shut down... I was like LOL... I was trying to mod my HTC TP1, but it became so unstable, that I had to bring it back to stock... winmo was such a waste of my time...
#345
Safety Car
lol. Yeah the only complaint I have with XDA is that its not noob friendly. If you find the right Wikis and Tutorials though, it makes it a lot more bearable. The commands are the same thing over and over after a while.
#346
Instructor
iTrader: (1)
Great news for those who have the SERO plans on Sprint and have been hesitant to switch to the ERP or anytime 450 plans and up, Sprint will now allow smartphones to be put on the SERO plans starting on Oct 1st, I just confirmed the information with a employee account representative on the phone. The gimmick or what now is that if you have a $30 SERO plan, you will be charged $10 for the premium data or 4G, plus a $10 charge for Sprint TV ect. so a total of $50, which is $20 or $30 less than what you would pay by switching to the newer plans, so it is pretty fair, and a pretty good day for those who waited and kept the SERO plan. I just switched off my SERO almost a month ago, I still have 30 days to return my phone, But the rep said there is a note on my account that they will switch me back to the SERO plan on Oct 1st. If you are within your 30 days, and had a SERO plan, i would call and make sure you are able to get back on it to save some money, sorry if this post was in the wrong place, but i know there are several SERO plan holders who would like to know about this.
#348
Yeah, I had to jump around alot to find what I was looking for and the wikis were not online for a while while I was there... but I am older than the internet, so I wont complain!
#349
1st TL-S on air in
iTrader: (2)
Great news for those who have the SERO plans on Sprint and have been hesitant to switch to the ERP or anytime 450 plans and up, Sprint will now allow smartphones to be put on the SERO plans starting on Oct 1st, I just confirmed the information with a employee account representative on the phone. The gimmick or what now is that if you have a $30 SERO plan, you will be charged $10 for the premium data or 4G, plus a $10 charge for Sprint TV ect. so a total of $50, which is $20 or $30 less than what you would pay by switching to the newer plans, so it is pretty fair, and a pretty good day for those who waited and kept the SERO plan. I just switched off my SERO almost a month ago, I still have 30 days to return my phone, But the rep said there is a note on my account that they will switch me back to the SERO plan on Oct 1st. If you are within your 30 days, and had a SERO plan, i would call and make sure you are able to get back on it to save some money, sorry if this post was in the wrong place, but i know there are several SERO plan holders who would like to know about this.
#351
I still make out better with my family data plan. Right now i have 4 phones on my plan and it is $129.99 for 1600 mins. The first two phones are free than $40 for the two additional phones, plus $40 for the mandatory 4g for all 4 evos. Than the taxes and all the crap but i do have 23% corp. discount. So it is still cheaper for me to go this route than to go with individual plans. I can see how this would save money for individual plans or those without a big discount. What i wanna know is how are some guys getting stack able discounts. Here is a thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=75318
#352
I still make out better with my family data plan. Right now i have 4 phones on my plan and it is $129.99 for 1600 mins. The first two phones are free than $40 for the two additional phones, plus $40 for the mandatory 4g for all 4 evos. Than the taxes and all the crap but i do have 23% corp. discount. So it is still cheaper for me to go this route than to go with individual plans. I can see how this would save money for individual plans or those without a big discount. What i wanna know is how are some guys getting stack able discounts. Here is a thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=75318
#353
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFUxJJ-bn20
On this vid, the guy shows linpack numbers between 31 and 37... then somebody posted this...as a youtube comment..
"Thats actually pretty weak linpack results. I get between 43 and 47 mflops running AVAs rom with sense. I expect the final CM6 will have better results"
...if the EVO benchmarks at about 8 mflops out of the box, and these are getting into the 40's... my Pre must be pretty slow... ... I am enlightened!
On this vid, the guy shows linpack numbers between 31 and 37... then somebody posted this...as a youtube comment..
"Thats actually pretty weak linpack results. I get between 43 and 47 mflops running AVAs rom with sense. I expect the final CM6 will have better results"
...if the EVO benchmarks at about 8 mflops out of the box, and these are getting into the 40's... my Pre must be pretty slow... ... I am enlightened!
#354
1st TL-S on air in
iTrader: (2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFUxJJ-bn20
On this vid, the guy shows linpack numbers between 31 and 37... then somebody posted this...as a youtube comment..
"Thats actually pretty weak linpack results. I get between 43 and 47 mflops running AVAs rom with sense. I expect the final CM6 will have better results"
...if the EVO benchmarks at about 8 mflops out of the box, and these are getting into the 40's... my Pre must be pretty slow... ... I am enlightened!
On this vid, the guy shows linpack numbers between 31 and 37... then somebody posted this...as a youtube comment..
"Thats actually pretty weak linpack results. I get between 43 and 47 mflops running AVAs rom with sense. I expect the final CM6 will have better results"
...if the EVO benchmarks at about 8 mflops out of the box, and these are getting into the 40's... my Pre must be pretty slow... ... I am enlightened!
#355
Safety Car
Yeah a linpack of 37 is pretty low for Froyo with that phone. It should be averaging at least 40+ easily. This is all due to the JIT in Froyo. However, the jump from 8 MFLOPS to 40+ MFLOPS won't be that drastic in normal everyday use. The phone will just respond better and faster overall but not 5-6x. lol. Its noticeable though.
Also, note that CM usually builds the stable builds. Now, imagine the tweaks that other devs will add later after he finishes the stable build. It'll probably get 50-60 MFLOPS easily with the overclock kernels and probably even better battery life with the underclock kernels.
Also, note that CM usually builds the stable builds. Now, imagine the tweaks that other devs will add later after he finishes the stable build. It'll probably get 50-60 MFLOPS easily with the overclock kernels and probably even better battery life with the underclock kernels.
#357
Just pulled this off XDA... Idiot proof root guide... just what I need... with screen shots and all!
[TUTORIAL] IDIOT-PROOF Root Guide! NAND Unlock and ADB Update!!
Question: have any of you used this specific method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004
Which came from here:
HTC EVO helpful/popular threads (Look here First!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
[TUTORIAL] IDIOT-PROOF Root Guide! NAND Unlock and ADB Update!!
Question: have any of you used this specific method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004
Which came from here:
HTC EVO helpful/popular threads (Look here First!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
#359
Suzuka Master
Just pulled this off XDA... Idiot proof root guide... just what I need... with screen shots and all!
[TUTORIAL] IDIOT-PROOF Root Guide! NAND Unlock and ADB Update!!
Question: have any of you used this specific method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004
Which came from here:
HTC EVO helpful/popular threads (Look here First!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
[TUTORIAL] IDIOT-PROOF Root Guide! NAND Unlock and ADB Update!!
Question: have any of you used this specific method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004
Which came from here:
HTC EVO helpful/popular threads (Look here First!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
Here's some big news for anyone on AT&T or any other carrier that won't let you sideload apps:
http://www.androidcentral.com/sidelo...wonder-machine
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#360
Safety Car
Wow. That was a very thorough guide. lol. Props to that guy for taking time out to explain it all with labels and pictures. lol.
That sideloading app is pretty cool. Very user friendly. It looks like a batch script with a GUI.
That sideloading app is pretty cool. Very user friendly. It looks like a batch script with a GUI.