Moog-Type-S

Who cares if they were at one time owned by the same owner, and played in the same building.

Joint success... What joint success?!?!? The Kings have had ZERO success for their entire existance...until this year....the Lakers have all the success.

AEG owns the Kings outright.
AEG owns a load of teams, and I could care less...as do most fans.

Most people don't even know that AEG owns a portion of the Lakers.
I don't care if the Galaxy win or lose....Should Lakers fans be Galaxy fans too?
Should Kings fans route for Hammarby Fotboll too?

What about the Hamburg Freezers? Do you route for them too?

Come on now, be serious.

You are one of the very, very, very, few who think like this.

CarbonGray Earl

oh boy....

Before I go any further, respectfully, why are you pressing the point? I disagree that there aren't alot people like me, but like I said I'm not concerned there are people that don't believe the same thing. Most people I grew up with are Lakers/Kings/Dodgers fans. I grew up in 10 miles from Dodgers stadium, so yes, I'm really happy when any LA team wins (still a childhood dream to see the Lakers/Dodgers/Kings win in the same year...best hope was 1988 if I remember correctly).

Why do you think that its important that I need to be like a lot of people?

As for the Kings and Lakers, joint success in the context I was explaining was the ability to put out a good product. They've stayed together, they always been tied together. Well, I'm not here to make you believe that means anything, but I guess I do.

But I don't know what point you are trying to make when you tell me all this. I just trying to share why I believe the way I do. If it doesn't quite jibe with whatever you believe, there's no point in carrying on the discussion.

I do enjoy the whole LA sports scene, with the Lakers at the forefront of that. I was a fan before the success of the 80s. Consequently, my wife and her Dad were bigger kings fans, so I got enjoy the nuances through them. I'm still really happy for them.

Anyways, far be it for me to inject some perspective...I was hoping it was something that would be appreciated by a diehard LA fan, but you've drawn a distinction, which is fine.

Honestly, I think you just need hockey back already.

CarbonGray Earl

Anyways Moog, you're point is well taken and I don't want to hijack the thread any more than I have. This is the basketball thread. I do appreciate the perspective...ya, I'm a little irked by Laker haterism, but I'm sure you'd feel the same with whatever happens to the Kings.

Trust me, you're not the only Kings (or clippers) fan I've heard this from. The whole we're-not-the-lakers seems to be pretty intense for some in those fanbases....

clpassenubye

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Phil's agent says that the reports of his demands were not accurate and that he never asked for those things knowing it would blow his chance. With the current roster Phil s

http://www.foxsportswest.com/11/12/1...63&feedID=3707

IMHO with the current roster Phil should have been the coach because the Lakers mostly old and are not equipped execute a run&gun offense also D'Antoni has no defensive coaching skills. Hard feelings run strong between Jim Buss and PJ I think he left PJ hanging on purpose.

CarbonGray Earl

Anyone else witnessing this 3ot game in Toronto vs. Utah?

Geez...I'm getting winded just watching it. It takes me 2-3 days to recover from playing pickup games now.

CarbonGray Earl

the good news: Anything is better than Mike Brown.

the bad news: No one in any sport is as good as Phil Jackson.

ugh....

RyanCHICL

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Tough loss for the Bulls tonight. Bulls played a tough 4th quarter and the rookie Teague made some good plays.

Doom878

Nice airball at the end Rin

Yumcha

Yup...every loss shows how badly the Bulls miss D-Rose.


Hope he can get back soon...but, no rush. If he can make it like how Adrian Peterson came back for the Dikings...wow, I'll take it.

CarbonGray Earl

Hope he changes his little things in his game to keep him from getting injured though.

Speaking of injuries, Bynum is out until December. I bet he's making tons of fans in Philly...

asianspec

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Me thinks he is being a pussy as usual. Although he is arguably the 2nd best center in the league, hardly the person to build around

CarbonGray Earl

He not enough of an athletic freak.....now that he doesn't have Kobe and Pau or even Lamar to help him out, he's gonna fade further from relevance.

Lin was WIDE open on that 3. Airball? Step into that...at least you miss strong, better than an airball. At least strong has a chance.

RyanCHICL

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Did you happen to hear that Peterson reached out to Rose basically telling him that if he feels comfortable with his knee that he should start "attacking" it.

Moog-Type-S

I'm just saying you are a diamond in the rough. An exception to the general rule.

LA fans don't care about all the LA sports teams.
It's just the truth. Matter of fact most fans in LA are fair weather fans.

...just go to a Dodger game: Everyone shows up in the 3rd inning, and leaves at the 7th inning stretch.

Only bandwagoners are the ones that care about all the teams...when they are winning.

....as for all the 3 teams you mentioned winning in one year.....the Kings were never close to winning in that time frame.....only in '93, and this past year when they actually won something for the first time.

Just saying.

Moog-Type-S

Jim Buss let his ego and pride get the best of him once again.
The Lakers front office is a mess.

Yumcha

No...not sure if that is good advice since everyone heals differently. But, if D-Rose's doctors give him the green light...then, heck yeah.

CarbonGray Earl

No problem here, we do see eye-to-eye on this. Fairweather fans are pretty much part and parcel of LA. good weather, good entertainment options, etc. Its 82 degrees a week before thanksgiving where I am, I don't want to be in a stadium or arena.

I think you and I are part of a diehard core for the Kings and Lakers, respectively. Unfortunately for me, fairweather fans are the biggest part of the Lakers 'nation'. I don't participate in Laker forums because of it.

As for Dodgers fans (as I am) being in that parking lot is a harrowing experience, even when you wear the right colors.

Thanks for the correction on what happened in 88. its a blur to me now, all I remember now is that we had some great players (McSorely, Robatille, Gretzky were pretty easy to remember). not claiming to know anything, just that 88 was pretty fun, regardless.

CarbonGray Earl

My is that while I would have preferred Phil, the Laker FO would be much more complicated if he had come back. the dude is sleeping with Jeannie, its just an icky, weird relationship as it is.

Anyone else think Thanksgiving is gonna be a weird family gathering?

Moog-Type-S

Well the silver lining of this coach hiring for the Lakers is at least the fans won't loot and burn the city down in June......because clearly they are not going to win it this year...or any time soon.

asianspec

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i wonder how long will D'antoni will last though.

CarbonGray Earl

we'll have to see. I do think its a good fit though...Nash hasn't had a high screen since he's gotten here, so just that'll free him up.

Antoni's only mistake is that Phil was an option.

asianspec

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The thing is with D'Antoni, he has a very uptempo style and has a pretty high mileage lineup. With this type of style will they be worn out by the playoff or so.

CarbonGray Earl

I get your point, but we haven't seen how they are going to tweak it though. Won't really know anything until Nash is back either.

asianspec

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which still puts this team in question of contending,

CarbonGray Earl

But that's a high standard that I'm not ready to bestow upon them, personally. I'll take what comes of all this. I think the Spurs and OKC still look better, as I've said in the past. I realize the media and the public at-large is going to hang them by expectations, which happens when you add 2 big names to the Pau and Bryant.

They certainly have the pieces, but still have flaws that we all know about. Every 'contending' team except for the Heat has their flaws. But I think an honest assessment can be had probably around February or March, after they take their extended road trip.

asianspec

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Pretty much this chop is getting more and more accurate.

CarbonGray Earl

still cracks me up. Ya, its probably true.

Honestly, 7 games into the season, I've already got fatigue with all the crap going on. New players, new players injured, fire coach, believe a HOF coach is gonna come back, get another coach....

On top of that I work at home and watch the Laker channel all day. I think I need a Laker vacation....

asianspec

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You can watch the Clips and Heat tomorrow.

CarbonGray Earl

Was there last year, at Clips/Heat with my friend who's the Clipper exec....that was a good game, just insane athleticism for both squads...

Doom878

Dear Laker Fans,

You're welcome.

Sincerely,

Marlins Fans

asianspec

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CarbonGray Earl

No idea what that means....

asianspec

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it means fk Jeffery Loria owner of the Miami Marlins.

CarbonGray Earl

ahhh, I see. Ya, I hear alot of that about Jim Buss nowadays.

asianspec

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Buss isn't that stupid compared to Loria. The city built him a new stadium and after 1 season at the new ballpark he has a fire sale of the team. I seriously hope the bode Loria sits on has a pressure regulator problem.

BraveDemon

I thought it was weird, but suddenly my Fox Sports channel (1065 I think? on Cox Cable here in socal) turned into a Time Warner Sports HD Channel... and the channel literally whores out the Lakers.

It basically plays all Laker games, past laker games, reality laker tv, etc.

But W/E... guess Time Warner is the pimp and the Lakers are its ho's this season.

asianspec

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TW can go suck a big fat one

clpassenubye

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If you watch the Laker channel all day you definitelly need a Laker vacation they don't keep it real they say pretty much whats fed to them and Andy Adler needs to get booted she is probably the worst option they could have gotten she needs to change professions. I know its a new channel but it already needs a tune up.

CarbonGray Earl

Well, that's to be expected with all the money changing hands between the Lakers and TW. But what else am I gonna have on, the View?

I get my news from other sources as well, no worries. But I'm as willing to form my own opinion as anyone.

On a side note, I'm reading 7SOL, the book on the Phoenix Suns and D'antoni. Might as well since we have Nash and D'antoni now, and their most hated rival was the Lakers. I'm sure it'll be an interesting read.

...excited for Heat/Clips tonight....

is300eater