NBA: 2010 Season News and Discussion Thread **Dallas Wins Title 4-2 (page 84)**
#681
^^Dr J was awesome. He had the best hands. He's forgotten too often in conversations about great players.
My favorite from him was the 'rock the baby to sleep' dunk over Michael Cooper. If they had sportscenter back then, he'd probably get better recognition.
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My favorite from him was the 'rock the baby to sleep' dunk over Michael Cooper. If they had sportscenter back then, he'd probably get better recognition.
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#683
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^^Dr J was awesome. He had the best hands. He's forgotten too often in conversations about great players.
My favorite from him was the 'rock the baby to sleep' dunk over Michael Cooper. If they had sportscenter back then, he'd probably get better recognition.
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My favorite from him was the 'rock the baby to sleep' dunk over Michael Cooper. If they had sportscenter back then, he'd probably get better recognition.
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That dunk is an absolute classic! I remember when that dunk happened everyone that I knew that could dunk was trying to do it at the time.
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Magic trade for Gilbert Arenas
The Orlando Magic capped a blockbuster day of wheeling and dealing by trading one franchise cornerstone for another, sending Rashard Lewis to the Washington Wizards for Gilbert Arenas, team sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard on Saturday.
That trade followed news of a deal that sent Vince Carter to the Phoenix Suns in a multiplayer deal that returns Hedo Turkoglu to the Magic.
Lewis for Arenas
The Magic, losers of five of their last six games, also get Jason Richardson and Earl Clark from the Suns in exchange for Carter, Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round pick and cash considerations, sources said.
The Arenas-Lewis deal doesn't include other pieces, the sources told Broussard.
The Magic and Wizards had been discussing a deal involving Arenas off and on since last summer.
Arenas and the Wizards have been open to parting ways since Washington landed point guard John Wall with the No. 1 pick and thereby providing a new face for the franchise.
Pietrus
Gortat
Carter
Arenas was suspended last season for the final 50 games by commissioner David Stern after a locker room incident involving gun play with former teammate Javaris Crittenton came to light last Dec. 23.
The Magic used lucrative pieces to close both deals, including Carter's expiring contract and Lewis' deal, which has 2½ years remaining on the original $118 million, six-year deal. It lines up with Arenas' backloaded contract -- which still has about $60 million left.
Clark
Clark
Richardson
Turkoglu
Arenas was at Washington's morning shootaround but did not speak to reporters.
Magic president Otis Smith has been a close friend and mentor to the Arenas going back to their days together at Golden State, when Smith was in the front-office and Arenas was a young player. Smith has said in the past that Arenas' troubles, which, in addition to last year's 50-game suspension, included faking an injury to sit out a preseason game this year, are not a concern.
"The length of his contract and health probably have been more of my concerns," Smith told The Associated Press early Saturday. "With the length of his contract, you're always concerned about taking on more, of course. That's always been one of my concerns. I know a little bit more detail about Gilbert off the court and who he is as a person.
"He's probably similar to the guys we have in the locker room right now. I would say that sometimes good people make dumb decisions, and he's one of those guys."
Arenas, a three-time All Star, has had several knee problems that limited him to 47 games over the previous three seasons. But while playing alongside -- and often behind -- Wall this season, Arenas has showed flashes of his old self.
He has averaged 17.3 points and 5.6 assists per game this season, including a season-high 31 points in a loss against the Magic on Nov. 27. The Magic have made strong pushes to acquire Denver's Carmelo Anthony and New Orleans' Chris Paul, but with those talks showing little progress, they might be forced to make another move.
Orlando has lost five of its last six games, including a frustrating 1-3 West Coast trip, falling from first to fourth in the Eastern Conference. The Magic were set to host Philadelphia on Saturday night, and Washington was hosting Miami.
"I circled the West Coast trip on our schedule a long time ago," Smith said. "The West Coast trip, to me, was going to decide whether or not we're going to either fix our woes or continue down the same path. I don't think we've played particularly well leading up to the West Coast trip. So, we were on the West Coast trip and some of our woes continued, so you start to explore opportunities that are out there."
Information from ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard, ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher and The Associated Press was used in this report.
The Orlando Magic capped a blockbuster day of wheeling and dealing by trading one franchise cornerstone for another, sending Rashard Lewis to the Washington Wizards for Gilbert Arenas, team sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard on Saturday.
That trade followed news of a deal that sent Vince Carter to the Phoenix Suns in a multiplayer deal that returns Hedo Turkoglu to the Magic.
Lewis for Arenas
The Magic, losers of five of their last six games, also get Jason Richardson and Earl Clark from the Suns in exchange for Carter, Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round pick and cash considerations, sources said.
The Arenas-Lewis deal doesn't include other pieces, the sources told Broussard.
The Magic and Wizards had been discussing a deal involving Arenas off and on since last summer.
Arenas and the Wizards have been open to parting ways since Washington landed point guard John Wall with the No. 1 pick and thereby providing a new face for the franchise.
Pietrus
Gortat
Carter
Arenas was suspended last season for the final 50 games by commissioner David Stern after a locker room incident involving gun play with former teammate Javaris Crittenton came to light last Dec. 23.
The Magic used lucrative pieces to close both deals, including Carter's expiring contract and Lewis' deal, which has 2½ years remaining on the original $118 million, six-year deal. It lines up with Arenas' backloaded contract -- which still has about $60 million left.
Clark
Clark
Richardson
Turkoglu
Arenas was at Washington's morning shootaround but did not speak to reporters.
Magic president Otis Smith has been a close friend and mentor to the Arenas going back to their days together at Golden State, when Smith was in the front-office and Arenas was a young player. Smith has said in the past that Arenas' troubles, which, in addition to last year's 50-game suspension, included faking an injury to sit out a preseason game this year, are not a concern.
"The length of his contract and health probably have been more of my concerns," Smith told The Associated Press early Saturday. "With the length of his contract, you're always concerned about taking on more, of course. That's always been one of my concerns. I know a little bit more detail about Gilbert off the court and who he is as a person.
"He's probably similar to the guys we have in the locker room right now. I would say that sometimes good people make dumb decisions, and he's one of those guys."
Arenas, a three-time All Star, has had several knee problems that limited him to 47 games over the previous three seasons. But while playing alongside -- and often behind -- Wall this season, Arenas has showed flashes of his old self.
He has averaged 17.3 points and 5.6 assists per game this season, including a season-high 31 points in a loss against the Magic on Nov. 27. The Magic have made strong pushes to acquire Denver's Carmelo Anthony and New Orleans' Chris Paul, but with those talks showing little progress, they might be forced to make another move.
Orlando has lost five of its last six games, including a frustrating 1-3 West Coast trip, falling from first to fourth in the Eastern Conference. The Magic were set to host Philadelphia on Saturday night, and Washington was hosting Miami.
"I circled the West Coast trip on our schedule a long time ago," Smith said. "The West Coast trip, to me, was going to decide whether or not we're going to either fix our woes or continue down the same path. I don't think we've played particularly well leading up to the West Coast trip. So, we were on the West Coast trip and some of our woes continued, so you start to explore opportunities that are out there."
Information from ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard, ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher and The Associated Press was used in this report.
#687
Drifting
hater. Clippers just have to start winning by the time his contract is up. I think they have the pieces to do it. A lot of clipper fans are already saying though if Blake jumps ship, they might have to jump ship with him.
#688
I shoot people
#691
If there wasn't enough attention on Florida basketball already...
Don't know what this does for the Suns. I heard grumblings about trading Nash or Nash being upset with how management wasn't doing things to make them into a contender.
Don't know what this does for the Suns. I heard grumblings about trading Nash or Nash being upset with how management wasn't doing things to make them into a contender.
#692
Well believe it or not Sportcenter was around back then it started in 1979 but cable wasn't as popular back then as it is now so it was'nt as mainstream as it is today.
That dunk is an absolute classic! I remember when that dunk happened everyone that I knew that could dunk was trying to do it at the time.
That dunk is an absolute classic! I remember when that dunk happened everyone that I knew that could dunk was trying to do it at the time.
ESPN was around, but I don't think we got it here on the west coast. It wasn't on my SelecTV or OnTV (which was only 1 channel anyways).
#697
Drifting
I don't know what's up with their history though. Looking back on it, I honestly don't think they made too many mistakes (besides korolev). I don't think they ever drafted that poorly, I guess they never got that lucky either, but most of the guys they missed, so did a lot of other teams. I don't think they lost any super talented guys to FA either. I mean in recent memory, who was worth really making max offers to keep around? Miles? QRich? Odom? Brand? I wish I knew how to right the ship, but I think Griffin is arguably the best player the clips have come across in their history (through 30% his rookie season at least
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#698
mmmmmm....
wow!! what a comeback by Miami heat. I don't Washington gave it away for Miami or what, but that is some crazy comeback.
Miami was down 5 32 secs to go and came to back to win it by 1pt.
Miami was down 5 32 secs to go and came to back to win it by 1pt.
#700
mmmmmm....
I didn't get to catch the game until last min of the game.. I thought this was going to be blow out game... Miami got lucky on this on.
I'm glad that Miami won tonight because they got tough road trip coming up... They shouldn't lose to team like Washington.
I'm glad that Miami won tonight because they got tough road trip coming up... They shouldn't lose to team like Washington.
#701
mmmmmm....
I think the key play was by Bosh making 3 and J. Jones for steal.
What a way to step it up.. I'm sure Lebron is happy that someone else besides him to step their game to finish it. This is one of luxury of having 3 different all star players.
What a way to step it up.. I'm sure Lebron is happy that someone else besides him to step their game to finish it. This is one of luxury of having 3 different all star players.
#703
I shoot people
first time really watching the Clippers play... I really think this team has potentials... but they always seem to choke in the 4th quarter
#704
mmmmmm....
Even with all that talents, they are what? 6-21. yikes! They just need to learn how to play together.
#705
I shoot people
they were up by 12 earlier, the Bulls are slowing closing the gap with about 7 minutes left
Blake Griffin is pretty damn awesome... I just hope the Clippers keep him
#706
I shoot people
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#709
I shoot people
their 7 games winning streak ended by the Clippers lol
#712
mmmmmm....
Okay, who would benefit more from 3 way trade?? Magic? Suns? or Washington?
Magic obviously wasn't happy with the way things were going with Lewis and Vince combo, so getting Arena would benefit them better?
Magic obviously wasn't happy with the way things were going with Lewis and Vince combo, so getting Arena would benefit them better?
#714
Drifting
Overall, I like the trade for Washington. They were able to shed some long term salary, and get a player that rounds out their lineup better. Josh Howard in his first game back actually played pretty well, but really they needed a SF. Either way, Arenas was not part of the plan, so there was really no point in keeping him around.
I don't know about phoenix, they still have too many SFs... even VC seems more like a 3 these days. Hedo was playing at the 4, so they lost depth there. Odd to see them trying for a more traditional lineup. With Gortat and Lopez they actually have a true center rotation, and might shift frye over to the 4 spot. But i mean their 2-4 spots still all seem like natural small forwards, Hill, Warrick, Dudley, Childress, Carter, Pietrus...
#715
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Thread Starter
Did Da Bulls just lose to the...Clippers?!?
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#719
Drifting
#720
I shoot people