MLB: 2008 Season Discussion Thread...
06-18-2008, 01:22 PM
#441
My Garage
Originally Posted by CleanCL
hardly halfway through the year, interleague play is JUST starting, and your only defense is a list obviously compiled more than a month ago as i can think of many other players who belong there.
better baseball... that's your opinion.
better teams... well AL teams of course, that is fact.
better baseball... that's your opinion.
better teams... well AL teams of course, that is fact.
I'm not saying the NL has better or worse teams, I'm saying the talent is equal, if not better, in the NL.
Of course AL teams are going to be better during interleague play, their rosters are geared to have a DH, NL teams don't have the extra big bat getting 4 turns per game.
06-18-2008, 01:23 PM
#442
My Garage
Originally Posted by CleanCL
^ i just go to mlb.com and look up stats. :shrugs: who needs espn to inject their opinionated picks?
Those ranking are based on a points system.
Got anything else?
06-18-2008, 01:30 PM
#444
My Garage
Originally Posted by CleanCL
their point system obviously sucks. where is matsui on the list? he is only one of the hottest hitters in MLB right now.
no point in arguing with a typical stubborn mets fan. lol.
no point in arguing with a typical stubborn mets fan. lol.
It's a simple point system based on a 5X5 rotisserie fantasy baseball league.
06-18-2008, 01:58 PM
#445
Team Owner
2 things and I'm totally staying out of this argument:
1) Fantasy vs reality are 2 different animals. Unless they consider OBP, BAA, and defense in the fantasy calculations, then defining "better" league is debatable between comparing fantasy and reality. You guys should clarify that.
2) Why not find a list of team power rankings for each team. combine the teams in each league's power ranking figure rather than break down the players.
1) Fantasy vs reality are 2 different animals. Unless they consider OBP, BAA, and defense in the fantasy calculations, then defining "better" league is debatable between comparing fantasy and reality. You guys should clarify that.
2) Why not find a list of team power rankings for each team. combine the teams in each league's power ranking figure rather than break down the players.
06-18-2008, 02:25 PM
#446
My Garage
Originally Posted by Doom878
2 things and I'm totally staying out of this argument:
1) Fantasy vs reality are 2 different animals. Unless they consider OBP, BAA, and defense in the fantasy calculations, then defining "better" league is debatable between comparing fantasy and reality. You guys should clarify that.
2) Why not find a list of team power rankings for each team. combine the teams in each league's power ranking figure rather than break down the players.
1) Fantasy vs reality are 2 different animals. Unless they consider OBP, BAA, and defense in the fantasy calculations, then defining "better" league is debatable between comparing fantasy and reality. You guys should clarify that.
2) Why not find a list of team power rankings for each team. combine the teams in each league's power ranking figure rather than break down the players.
06-18-2008, 02:32 PM
#447
Benchwarmer
Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
How is that so? I just listed a majority of players who are playing very good baseball in the NL, how is it easier to hit of pitch against them? Every team has weak spot in their lineup.
To me, what you just said sounds more like a balanced league. Some may prefer a league with a few overpowering teams and many poor teams, that's fine. Me, I prefer a league where all the teams are balanced and the competition is greater.
Just because the NL has a couple bad teams, doesn't mean the league is overall worse. Seattle is a terrible. So is KC.
To me, what you just said sounds more like a balanced league. Some may prefer a league with a few overpowering teams and many poor teams, that's fine. Me, I prefer a league where all the teams are balanced and the competition is greater.
Just because the NL has a couple bad teams, doesn't mean the league is overall worse. Seattle is a terrible. So is KC.
Berkman and Chipper Jones are probably the hottest hitters in either league, but there are some really bad pitchers out there too serving them up. Now that Chipper has had to face the Angels and Rangers his average has dropped to .400. And their teams are both below .500. In fact only 6 of the 16 NL teams are over .500.
The best measure is interleague play and we'll have to wait another month to see what happens.
06-18-2008, 08:07 PM
#450
My Garage
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
My point is that some NL lineups like the Pirates and Nationals have weak spots all through them with nary a star hitter. This makes NL pitchers look better. Also pitching to the opposing pitcher makes a guy look good.
Berkman and Chipper Jones are probably the hottest hitters in either league, but there are some really bad pitchers out there too serving them up. Now that Chipper has had to face the Angels and Rangers his average has dropped to .400. And their teams are both below .500. In fact only 6 of the 16 NL teams are over .500.
The best measure is interleague play and we'll have to wait another month to see what happens.
Berkman and Chipper Jones are probably the hottest hitters in either league, but there are some really bad pitchers out there too serving them up. Now that Chipper has had to face the Angels and Rangers his average has dropped to .400. And their teams are both below .500. In fact only 6 of the 16 NL teams are over .500.
The best measure is interleague play and we'll have to wait another month to see what happens.
06-19-2008, 02:48 PM
#451
Team Owner
I voted for my All Stars. Discuss
First Base: Morneau, J., MIN
Second Base: Kinsler, I., TEX
Third Base: Rodriguez, A., NYY
Shortstop: Young, M., TEX
Catcher: Posada, J., NYY
Outfielder: Bradley, M., TEX
Outfielder: Drew, J., BOS
Outfielder: Hamilton, J., TEX
Designated Hitter: Ortiz, D., BOS
First Base: Berkman, L., HOU
Second Base: Utley, C., PHI
Third Base: Jones, C., ATL
Shortstop: Ramirez, H., FLA
Catcher: McCann, B., ATL
Outfielder: Braun, R., MIL
Outfielder: Lee, C., HOU
Outfielder: Ludwick, R., STL
First Base: Morneau, J., MIN
Second Base: Kinsler, I., TEX
Third Base: Rodriguez, A., NYY
Shortstop: Young, M., TEX
Catcher: Posada, J., NYY
Outfielder: Bradley, M., TEX
Outfielder: Drew, J., BOS
Outfielder: Hamilton, J., TEX
Designated Hitter: Ortiz, D., BOS
First Base: Berkman, L., HOU
Second Base: Utley, C., PHI
Third Base: Jones, C., ATL
Shortstop: Ramirez, H., FLA
Catcher: McCann, B., ATL
Outfielder: Braun, R., MIL
Outfielder: Lee, C., HOU
Outfielder: Ludwick, R., STL
06-19-2008, 03:51 PM
#453
Benchwarmer
The Pirates and Nationals are absolutely horrible.Minnesota sweeps with a combined score of 22-6. The Twins are frankly pretty average.
Chicago sweeps with a combined score of 37-14. The White Sox are slightly above average.
I don't know how Bud Selig can be proud of this.
And to illustrate AL dominance, the pitiful Royals sweep the mighty Cardinals, only giving up 4 total runs at Busch Stadium.
06-19-2008, 06:04 PM
#455
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Quentin > Bradley for OF
Matsui > Drew for OF
Mauer > Posada for C (come on, man)
Otherwise, looks good.
I've never heard of any of those NL guys.
Matsui > Drew for OF
Mauer > Posada for C (come on, man)
Otherwise, looks good.
I've never heard of any of those NL guys.
06-19-2008, 08:49 PM
#456
Originally Posted by CleanCL
you forgot...
yankees sweep houston with a combined score of 23-5
yankees sweep san diego with a combined score of 18-6
let's see how the yankees do against a good NL team with the cardinals series.
yankees sweep houston with a combined score of 23-5
yankees sweep san diego with a combined score of 18-6
let's see how the yankees do against a good NL team with the cardinals series.
06-20-2008, 08:11 AM
#457
Team Owner
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Quentin > Bradley for OF
Matsui > Drew for OF
Mauer > Posada for C (come on, man)
Otherwise, looks good.
I've never heard of any of those NL guys.
Matsui > Drew for OF
Mauer > Posada for C (come on, man)
Otherwise, looks good.
I've never heard of any of those NL guys.
I f'ed up with Posada. I thought I scanned through first picking Posada and then went to change Mauer. I guess it didn't go take.I picked Bradley because at this time his BA is .330 vs .271. OBP is .452 to .382 and SLG is .682 to .530. He only has 2 less HR and 8 less RBI and the same amount of runs. I was really sold on the consistent hitting. Quentin had a slump going until he hit a HR 2 days ago but let's see if he picks back up.
Matsui over Drew (come on, man
)
06-20-2008, 01:47 PM
#458
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Looks like Cito Gaston is back with the Jays.
06-20-2008, 04:01 PM
#459
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
The Pirates and Nationals are absolutely horrible.Fuck that..! In order to have 16 straight years without being .500 takes Alot of skill and careful planning.. And 8 straight after telling the taxpayers "build us a stadium and we'll be competitive."
06-20-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
I loved the 44 seconds of silence from Harrelson after Ramirez's second HR. You can put it on mute, YES!
Cubs should take 2-3 here and prove everyone that what happened in TB was just a bad streak.
06-21-2008, 01:41 AM
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My friends and I go to the Yellow Line station in Skokie (we have someone drive us in anticipation of the following activities), drink heavily on our "water bottle" Vodkas, get hammered before the Addison stop on the Red Line, get off and buy some "cheap" tickets, walk/stumble around until gametime, and go enjoy the game. It's a fun time
06-21-2008, 01:51 AM
#466
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
I loved the 44 seconds of silence from Harrelson after Ramirez's second HR.
06-21-2008, 02:44 PM
#467
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Nice 
being laid on the ChiSox by the Cubs...
being laid on the ChiSox by the Cubs...
06-21-2008, 04:07 PM
#469
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Fixed.
06-21-2008, 05:15 PM
#470
Benchwarmer
Originally Posted by Yumchah
How many games back are your Twips, anyhow? They are so far back, I don't pay attention anymore.
06-22-2008, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Thank you, gocubsgo55. Your team is helping us out big time
06-23-2008, 02:44 AM
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to Ozzie Guillen, Kenny Williams, John Danks, Don Cooper, AJ Pierogie, and EVERY other part of the Sux organization that felt it was neccessary to trash talk the Cubs...
, three smilies for THREE WINS. SWEEEEEEEEEP mo frickas, what goes around comes around.
06-23-2008, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
Reds take 2 of 3 from the Yanks 
06-23-2008, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX Wisc Badger
3 words for you:
ONE HUNDRED YEARS
ONE HUNDRED YEARS
I myself have 3 LETTERS for you:
I-L-L...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=27cxAs7mGSs
Cubs sweep the Sox, Illinois beats Wisconsin, what's next?