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I'm thinking my game is at least good enough to earn me a 2-2.5 mill deal There's no way I'm half the player that Ryan O'Reily or some of these other stiffs that are making 5 per.
Maybe I can sign on the Island, they're looking to reach the bottom of the cap.
Maybe I can sign on the Island, they're looking to reach the bottom of the cap.
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I know I can drink quite a few beers after the game as well.
So I know that part of my game is plenty good.
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Teams That People Actually Care About Division
1. Detroit Best Franchise EverWings
2. Toronto Tough guys in name only
3. Chicago Chicken Hawks
4. Boston Tea Baggers
5. New York lost on the Rangers
6. Montreal ole~ole for no apparent reason Habs
7. Pittsburgh flightless birds
8. Quebec wannabe's (*expansion team)
1. Detroit Best Franchise EverWings
2. Toronto Tough guys in name only
3. Chicago Chicken Hawks
4. Boston Tea Baggers
5. New York lost on the Rangers
6. Montreal ole~ole for no apparent reason Habs
7. Pittsburgh flightless birds
8. Quebec wannabe's (*expansion team)
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Don't think Chicago is capable of going undefeated in regulation this season. Besides, they did lose 3 times if you count the SO losses.
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Yumcha (03-03-2013)
Wow, just read that the Flames offer to O'RLY was complete failboat since the guy would've needed to clear waivers: http://www.torontosun.com/2013/03/01...ean-heads-roll
Meanwhile, the two no-name goalies today in the Toilet/Chicago tilt put on a show.
And the Hawks just keep rolling. VERY entertaining game...it's games like this that makes me sad that Detroit is moving to the East.
Chicago. Brought it.
And the Hawks just keep rolling. VERY entertaining game...it's games like this that makes me sad that Detroit is moving to the East.
Chicago. Brought it.
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I was actually nervous watching that Blackhawks/Red Wings game after Detroit scored.
I don't know how the Blackhawks do it.......amazing shootout goal by Kane.
I don't know how the Blackhawks do it.......amazing shootout goal by Kane.
The 2013 Cup Winners trade away one of their key MVP/Hart assets, Mike Brown, to hockey Siberia: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417357
Rangers get invited to Frozen Fury
For the second time in history, the Kings’ annual pre-season party in Las Vegas had to be cancelled last September. On both occasions, the fun fell by the wayside due to labor strife between the NHL and NHLPA.
In 2004, a game between the Kings and Ducks was nixed – the only time Anaheim has ever been scheduled to play in what’s become something much more than just a normal exhibition game.
Last season, it was a contest between the Kings and their usual opponent, the Colorado Avalanche, that had to be shelved.
But it’s now looking like this year’s event will be the biggest and best yet.
Based upon a tip from occasional MayorsManor contributor Jonathan Davis (of TSN and The Hockey News), a little digging has uncovered an interesting story. The Kings are reportedly in final negotiations to play a pair of games at Frozen Fury 2013.
If everything comes together as planned, here are some highlights of what’s in the works:
- A Friday night game between the Kings and New York Rangers
- A game between the Kings and Avalanche on Saturday night
- A major fantasy camp that would run throughout the weekend and feature alumni from all three teams
As of now, Frozen Fury 2013 is being planned for the weekend of September 27-28 at MGM Grand Garden Arena. Those dates may need to change depending on when the NHL regular season begins, based upon if the league participates in the 2014 Winter Olympics.
Of course, we’ll report more details as they become available. But, it’s shaping up to be another can’t miss event.
For a little history, this will be the 15th edition of the annual pre-season spectacular. However, it will actually mark the 17th time the Kings have played a game in Vegas.
Back in 1991 they hosted the New York Rangers for an outdoor game at Caesars Palace and Frozen Fury II was actually the first double-header, with games on Saturday and Sunday nights.
LA holds an overall 10-5 record in Frozen Fury games and Colorado is 5-8, including a decisive 4-1 victory in the last game played, back in October 2011. In addition to the 13 games vs. the Avalanche, the Kings have also played one game each against Phoenix and San Jose (winning both).
In 2004, a game between the Kings and Ducks was nixed – the only time Anaheim has ever been scheduled to play in what’s become something much more than just a normal exhibition game.
Last season, it was a contest between the Kings and their usual opponent, the Colorado Avalanche, that had to be shelved.
But it’s now looking like this year’s event will be the biggest and best yet.
Based upon a tip from occasional MayorsManor contributor Jonathan Davis (of TSN and The Hockey News), a little digging has uncovered an interesting story. The Kings are reportedly in final negotiations to play a pair of games at Frozen Fury 2013.
If everything comes together as planned, here are some highlights of what’s in the works:
- A Friday night game between the Kings and New York Rangers
- A game between the Kings and Avalanche on Saturday night
- A major fantasy camp that would run throughout the weekend and feature alumni from all three teams
As of now, Frozen Fury 2013 is being planned for the weekend of September 27-28 at MGM Grand Garden Arena. Those dates may need to change depending on when the NHL regular season begins, based upon if the league participates in the 2014 Winter Olympics.
Of course, we’ll report more details as they become available. But, it’s shaping up to be another can’t miss event.
For a little history, this will be the 15th edition of the annual pre-season spectacular. However, it will actually mark the 17th time the Kings have played a game in Vegas.
Back in 1991 they hosted the New York Rangers for an outdoor game at Caesars Palace and Frozen Fury II was actually the first double-header, with games on Saturday and Sunday nights.
LA holds an overall 10-5 record in Frozen Fury games and Colorado is 5-8, including a decisive 4-1 victory in the last game played, back in October 2011. In addition to the 13 games vs. the Avalanche, the Kings have also played one game each against Phoenix and San Jose (winning both).
...and yes, the Colorado Rockies are still on the bill for their annual beat down too. :wink:
Sabres' Kaleta faces disciplinary hearing Monday
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/d9RqK?u...m_campaign=nhl
Buffalo Sabres forward Patrick Kaleta faces a hearing with the Department of Player Safety on Monday afternoon for an incident in a game Sunday night against the New York Rangers at Madison Square Garden.
Kaleta received a five-minute major for checking from behind and a game misconduct for a hit he delivered against Brad Richards at the 3:28 mark of the third period.
The Rangers won the game in a shootout, 3-2.
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/d9RqK?u...m_campaign=nhl
Buffalo Sabres forward Patrick Kaleta faces a hearing with the Department of Player Safety on Monday afternoon for an incident in a game Sunday night against the New York Rangers at Madison Square Garden.
Kaleta received a five-minute major for checking from behind and a game misconduct for a hit he delivered against Brad Richards at the 3:28 mark of the third period.
The Rangers won the game in a shootout, 3-2.
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TeknoKing (03-04-2013)
...but Shannananananhan was going to solve all of this?!?!?!?!?
NHL's violent culture encourages reckless play
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nhls-vi...0818--nhl.html
Trouble is, with The Count's Instigator Rule, the ability of the players to police themselves via fighting is severely hampered.
So the cheap shots will continue to come.
...and the fans will cry foul, and scream and lament about the cheap shots and the stars of the game getting destroyed......all the while still saying that fighting should be curbed or removed from the game.
Ya see kids, you can't have it both ways.
...and yup, those of you who believed in Shannanananhan were sold the NHL snake oil.
The second Brad Richards’ head slammed into the boards Sunday night, you could hear the clucking of tongues in the hockey world. A reckless play by a reckless player. And, of course, the predictable proclamations that there is no place for this in the game.
Well, we all should have saved our breath. Because there is a place for Patrick Kaleta’s hit from behind on Richards, a very prominent place. That’s because there’s a place in the league for unaccountable, dastardly players such as Kaleta. And because of that, and the fact that the NHL is a complete coward when it comes to standing up to these miscreants, we have to have fighting.
You see, the problem is that players such as Richards and others around the league are quick to denounce players such as Kaleta when something like this happens to them or one of their teammates. But, mark my words, if Kaleta were traded to the New York Rangers tomorrow, Richards would be one of the first players to shake his hand and welcome him to the team. And that’s because the NHL and everyone in it likes having players such as Kaleta around.
The NHL is enveloped in such a culture of violence that it actually encourages players such as Kaleta to exist. It promotes violence on its own website, sells it with as much vigor as it does skill and creativity and seems to love the idea that forcing players to have their antennae up at all times for players such as Kaleta is a good thing for the game.
And that, of course, is why we need fighters in the NHL as well. Because the league essentially has no spine when it comes to meting out discipline against these guys, teams feel the need to do it themselves. There is no sport in the world where either real or believed transgressions have to be addressed with violence the way they do in hockey. Case in point: Ryan McDonagh of the Rangers crumples Max Pacioretty into the boards. Pacioretty then has to address that by launching himself into McDonagh later in the game. No penalty. No supplemental discipline. No fine. Nothing. It’s basically an open invitation to exact revenge.
But what really mystifies is the fact the NHL’s department of player safety can be so decisive and make so much sense one day, suspending Harry Zolnierczyk of the Philadelphia Flyers for four games for his head shot on Mike Lundin of the Ottawa Senators – and so little sense the next. Giving Kaleta a telephone hearing means he’ll be suspended no more than five games and will avoid the new provision in the collective bargaining agreement that allows a player to appeal any suspension of six-plus games to an independent arbitrator. Kaleta is, by definition, a repeat offender and if the NHL ever wanted to actually deter this kind of behavior, it would use his status as a reason to deal harshly with him.
And, as always, if this were an isolated case, perhaps it wouldn’t be such a problem. But last Thursday night, with the Edmonton Oilers leading his Dallas Stars 5-1 with four minutes left, Jamie Benn left the bench and delivered a vicious crosscheck to the back of Ryan Jones of the Oilers. Benn was not suspended, but received a $10,000 fine, the maximum a player can be fined under the new CBA.
Benn’s team was losing badly late in the game and he was minus-2 that night. He had been minus-3 in each of the two previous games, making him minus-8 for that three-game set, so you clearly had a frustrated player. He gets off the bench, skates directly at Jones – who had just seconds before made absolutely no effort to avoid a collision with Dallas goalie Kari Lehtonen – and drills the shaft of his stick right into Jones’ numbers.
So let’s break this down. Benn was fined $10,000. Based on his salary this season of $4.5 million, Benn will earn $2.47 million because of the truncated season and the fact he missed the first six days of the season. If you equate that to someone making $100,000 a year, that’s a fine of $404. Do you know any workplace in North America that would fine someone $400 for attacking a fellow employee because he was having a bad week?
It’s very clear to these eyes that the department of player safety has become hockey’s most prominent contradiction of terms – right up there with army intelligence and jumbo shrimp. And no five-game suspension to Patrick Kaleta is going to do a thing to change that.
Well, we all should have saved our breath. Because there is a place for Patrick Kaleta’s hit from behind on Richards, a very prominent place. That’s because there’s a place in the league for unaccountable, dastardly players such as Kaleta. And because of that, and the fact that the NHL is a complete coward when it comes to standing up to these miscreants, we have to have fighting.
You see, the problem is that players such as Richards and others around the league are quick to denounce players such as Kaleta when something like this happens to them or one of their teammates. But, mark my words, if Kaleta were traded to the New York Rangers tomorrow, Richards would be one of the first players to shake his hand and welcome him to the team. And that’s because the NHL and everyone in it likes having players such as Kaleta around.
The NHL is enveloped in such a culture of violence that it actually encourages players such as Kaleta to exist. It promotes violence on its own website, sells it with as much vigor as it does skill and creativity and seems to love the idea that forcing players to have their antennae up at all times for players such as Kaleta is a good thing for the game.
And that, of course, is why we need fighters in the NHL as well. Because the league essentially has no spine when it comes to meting out discipline against these guys, teams feel the need to do it themselves. There is no sport in the world where either real or believed transgressions have to be addressed with violence the way they do in hockey. Case in point: Ryan McDonagh of the Rangers crumples Max Pacioretty into the boards. Pacioretty then has to address that by launching himself into McDonagh later in the game. No penalty. No supplemental discipline. No fine. Nothing. It’s basically an open invitation to exact revenge.
But what really mystifies is the fact the NHL’s department of player safety can be so decisive and make so much sense one day, suspending Harry Zolnierczyk of the Philadelphia Flyers for four games for his head shot on Mike Lundin of the Ottawa Senators – and so little sense the next. Giving Kaleta a telephone hearing means he’ll be suspended no more than five games and will avoid the new provision in the collective bargaining agreement that allows a player to appeal any suspension of six-plus games to an independent arbitrator. Kaleta is, by definition, a repeat offender and if the NHL ever wanted to actually deter this kind of behavior, it would use his status as a reason to deal harshly with him.
And, as always, if this were an isolated case, perhaps it wouldn’t be such a problem. But last Thursday night, with the Edmonton Oilers leading his Dallas Stars 5-1 with four minutes left, Jamie Benn left the bench and delivered a vicious crosscheck to the back of Ryan Jones of the Oilers. Benn was not suspended, but received a $10,000 fine, the maximum a player can be fined under the new CBA.
Benn’s team was losing badly late in the game and he was minus-2 that night. He had been minus-3 in each of the two previous games, making him minus-8 for that three-game set, so you clearly had a frustrated player. He gets off the bench, skates directly at Jones – who had just seconds before made absolutely no effort to avoid a collision with Dallas goalie Kari Lehtonen – and drills the shaft of his stick right into Jones’ numbers.
So let’s break this down. Benn was fined $10,000. Based on his salary this season of $4.5 million, Benn will earn $2.47 million because of the truncated season and the fact he missed the first six days of the season. If you equate that to someone making $100,000 a year, that’s a fine of $404. Do you know any workplace in North America that would fine someone $400 for attacking a fellow employee because he was having a bad week?
It’s very clear to these eyes that the department of player safety has become hockey’s most prominent contradiction of terms – right up there with army intelligence and jumbo shrimp. And no five-game suspension to Patrick Kaleta is going to do a thing to change that.
Trouble is, with The Count's Instigator Rule, the ability of the players to police themselves via fighting is severely hampered.
So the cheap shots will continue to come.
...and the fans will cry foul, and scream and lament about the cheap shots and the stars of the game getting destroyed......all the while still saying that fighting should be curbed or removed from the game.
Ya see kids, you can't have it both ways.
...and yup, those of you who believed in Shannanananhan were sold the NHL snake oil.
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Sabres' Kaleta suspended five games for boarding
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...d=nhl:topheads
NEW YORK -- Buffalo Sabres forward Patrick Kaleta has been suspended for five games, without pay, for boarding New York Rangers forward Brad Richards during NHL Game No. 317 in New York on Sunday, March 3, the National Hockey League's Department of Player Safety announced today.
Kaleta is considered a repeat offender under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Based on his average annual salary, he will forfeit $76,219.25. The money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund.
The incident occurred at 3:28 of the third period. Kaleta was assessed a major penalty for checking from behind and game misconduct.
For a full explanation of the Department of Player Safety's decision, complete with video, please click on the following link: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...d=60&id=212619.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...d=nhl:topheads
NEW YORK -- Buffalo Sabres forward Patrick Kaleta has been suspended for five games, without pay, for boarding New York Rangers forward Brad Richards during NHL Game No. 317 in New York on Sunday, March 3, the National Hockey League's Department of Player Safety announced today.
Kaleta is considered a repeat offender under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Based on his average annual salary, he will forfeit $76,219.25. The money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund.
The incident occurred at 3:28 of the third period. Kaleta was assessed a major penalty for checking from behind and game misconduct.
For a full explanation of the Department of Player Safety's decision, complete with video, please click on the following link: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...d=60&id=212619.
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Originally Posted by Money Moogalino's post
we have to have fighting.
Last edited by black label; 03-05-2013 at 12:28 AM.