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I feel the need...
...and whats up with the ghetto ad banners at the "Joe"?!?!?
Has Detroit become that ghetto?!?!
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You had me going there......just for a moment.....but you did.
I feel the need...
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Bettman Got 5-Year Extension
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Commissioner Gary Bettman will be the face of the National Hockey League for a while yet, negotiating a five-year contract extension last November, The Globe and Mail reported on Friday.
According to the newspaper, the nine-member executive committee unanimously approved the extension.
The Globe adds that one of the biggest backers to get Bettman the extension was Boston Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs, who is the league's chairman of the board of governors. As chairman, one of Jacobs's duties is to keep the commissioner and the other key executives under contract.
"Old news. I believe my contract has been extended four times, each time with the approval of the board of governors," Bettman confirmed to The Globe via e-mail.
One governor told the paper he believed Bettman also reached an understanding with the executive committee that deputy commissioner Bill Daly and chief operating officer John Collins will also be retained beyond this season.
Bettman's current contract, which pays him $7.2 million annually, was originally set to expire this summer.
According to the newspaper, the nine-member executive committee unanimously approved the extension.
The Globe adds that one of the biggest backers to get Bettman the extension was Boston Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs, who is the league's chairman of the board of governors. As chairman, one of Jacobs's duties is to keep the commissioner and the other key executives under contract.
"Old news. I believe my contract has been extended four times, each time with the approval of the board of governors," Bettman confirmed to The Globe via e-mail.
One governor told the paper he believed Bettman also reached an understanding with the executive committee that deputy commissioner Bill Daly and chief operating officer John Collins will also be retained beyond this season.
Bettman's current contract, which pays him $7.2 million annually, was originally set to expire this summer.
No wonder Chara didn't get suspended or fined, Jacobs kept Bettman in his job.
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@ the Western Conference race...5-8 all have 81 points.
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Playoff odds update:
Hawks: playoff odds down 0.4 to 87%
Kings: playoff odds up 5.6 to 93%
Hawks: playoff odds down 0.4 to 87%
Kings: playoff odds up 5.6 to 93%
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The Great Satan is with us for another 5 years which means more catastrophic injuries for players due to his horrible "rules" and lackluster officiating.
The Great Satan is with us for another 5 years which means more catastrophic injuries for players due to his horrible "rules" and lackluster officiating.
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Oh wow...a Bugs Bunny sighting...Must be because his Caps are on a 8-game streak and just beat the defending Cup champs...
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Crosby practices today: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html
Damn, Caps have six road games in a row within 12 days. The circus must be in town...
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^^ Zing!
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Nice win by the Hawks tonight...back to 4th!
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Crosby practices today: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html
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^ They reported that?
Link?
Link?
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pens should shut him down til the playoffs, if he's even able by then. no sense in playing any regular season games when we basically locked up a 4-6 spot.
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Bettman's 5 Step Program to Curb Concussions
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In a season that has made headlines due to the number of concussions suffered by star athletes, it was no wonder that headshots were front and centre with the start of the NHL general managers' meetings in Boca Raton, Florida.
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman told reporters on Monday that the league reviewed almost every single concussion that has occurred this season and concluded that there is no one single factor that contributes to concussions.
"There's no one single thing causing concussions," said Bettman. "There is no magic bullet to deal with this. I know that it's an emotional, intense subject, particularly for our fans. We get it. But dealing with this issue is not something you can do whimsically or emotionally.
"You really have to understand what's going on."
According to the league, 26 percent of concussions this season have been caused by 'accidental' collisions, while 44 percent occurred from what the NHL considers a 'legal' hit. Eight percent of concussions are caused due to fighting while 17 percent fall under the heading of an 'illegal' hit.
"My position is there should be no head hits," said Penguins GM Ray Shero. "That's the position of the Penguins, that's mine, and I brought it up today in our group."
The hits described add up to 95 percent. The league left five percent as "reason not available" since it could not locate video of every hit.
The good news is that only 17 percent of all man-games lost this season are due to concussions. That number is down from 44 percent last season.
In addition, Bettman suggested a five-step plan he intends to implement in an effort to curb concussions.
The first step involves former NHL All-Star and current NHL vice-president of hockey and business development Brendan Shanahan working with the NHL Players' Association on equipment reforms.
The second step would be to revise the current concussion protocol. If a player is suspected of being concussed during a game, that player must then be removed from the bench and taken to a quiet area where the player can be assessed by a medical doctor, who is not the team's athletic therapist. The player will then be given a SCAT test before he is cleared to return to play. Bettman said that this will be in place by the end of the week.
"We probably need a few days because we're going to need some conference calls with the physicians and the trainers to make sure they understand what to do," said Bettman. "But once we can fully implement it, which will be in the next few days, it will be in effect."
Third, in dealing with players who are deemed repeat offenders on illegal hits to the head, penalties will be assessed to not only the player, but also to the team and/or head coach.
Penguins co-owner Mario Lemieux sent a letter to Bettman last week calling for this kind of action, underlining the need for less subjectivity.
"While there have been 50-plus suspensions since the start of the 2009-10 season, the suspensions themselves don't seem to be deterring these illegal acts and tactics," wrote Lemieux in the letter obtained by ESPN.com. "And we've often seen repeat offenders. We think it is time that teams also are held accountable for the actions of their players. We propose instituting a policy of automatically fining a team when one if its players is suspended -- with the amount of the fine based on the length of the suspension. This should serve as a disincentive for teams as well as players to employ these kinds of tactics."
Fourth, safety engineers will do a full evaluation of the playing area in each of the league's 30 rinks. Individual arenas will have to conform to higher safety standards (for example plexiglass versus seamless glass in some rinks).
The fifth and final step will be the assembling of a blue ribbon panel to continue to look at the issue of concussions going forward. That panel would consist of Shanahan, along with recently-retired defenceman Rob Blake, as well as Tampa Bay Lightning general manager Steve Yzerman and Dallas Stars GM Joe Nieuwendyk.
NHLPA Executive director Donald Fehr said in a statement that he felt that Bettman's model was a step in the right direction.
"We welcome these steps and look forward to discussing these and other issues with the NHL to provide a safer working environment for the Players," Fehr stated.
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman told reporters on Monday that the league reviewed almost every single concussion that has occurred this season and concluded that there is no one single factor that contributes to concussions.
"There's no one single thing causing concussions," said Bettman. "There is no magic bullet to deal with this. I know that it's an emotional, intense subject, particularly for our fans. We get it. But dealing with this issue is not something you can do whimsically or emotionally.
"You really have to understand what's going on."
According to the league, 26 percent of concussions this season have been caused by 'accidental' collisions, while 44 percent occurred from what the NHL considers a 'legal' hit. Eight percent of concussions are caused due to fighting while 17 percent fall under the heading of an 'illegal' hit.
"My position is there should be no head hits," said Penguins GM Ray Shero. "That's the position of the Penguins, that's mine, and I brought it up today in our group."
The hits described add up to 95 percent. The league left five percent as "reason not available" since it could not locate video of every hit.
The good news is that only 17 percent of all man-games lost this season are due to concussions. That number is down from 44 percent last season.
In addition, Bettman suggested a five-step plan he intends to implement in an effort to curb concussions.
The first step involves former NHL All-Star and current NHL vice-president of hockey and business development Brendan Shanahan working with the NHL Players' Association on equipment reforms.
The second step would be to revise the current concussion protocol. If a player is suspected of being concussed during a game, that player must then be removed from the bench and taken to a quiet area where the player can be assessed by a medical doctor, who is not the team's athletic therapist. The player will then be given a SCAT test before he is cleared to return to play. Bettman said that this will be in place by the end of the week.
"We probably need a few days because we're going to need some conference calls with the physicians and the trainers to make sure they understand what to do," said Bettman. "But once we can fully implement it, which will be in the next few days, it will be in effect."
Third, in dealing with players who are deemed repeat offenders on illegal hits to the head, penalties will be assessed to not only the player, but also to the team and/or head coach.
Penguins co-owner Mario Lemieux sent a letter to Bettman last week calling for this kind of action, underlining the need for less subjectivity.
"While there have been 50-plus suspensions since the start of the 2009-10 season, the suspensions themselves don't seem to be deterring these illegal acts and tactics," wrote Lemieux in the letter obtained by ESPN.com. "And we've often seen repeat offenders. We think it is time that teams also are held accountable for the actions of their players. We propose instituting a policy of automatically fining a team when one if its players is suspended -- with the amount of the fine based on the length of the suspension. This should serve as a disincentive for teams as well as players to employ these kinds of tactics."
Fourth, safety engineers will do a full evaluation of the playing area in each of the league's 30 rinks. Individual arenas will have to conform to higher safety standards (for example plexiglass versus seamless glass in some rinks).
The fifth and final step will be the assembling of a blue ribbon panel to continue to look at the issue of concussions going forward. That panel would consist of Shanahan, along with recently-retired defenceman Rob Blake, as well as Tampa Bay Lightning general manager Steve Yzerman and Dallas Stars GM Joe Nieuwendyk.
NHLPA Executive director Donald Fehr said in a statement that he felt that Bettman's model was a step in the right direction.
"We welcome these steps and look forward to discussing these and other issues with the NHL to provide a safer working environment for the Players," Fehr stated.
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Did a quick google search, apparently the rumor was started in.... wait for it....
TORONTO!
Shocking
Here's an article I found where it describes where the rumor came from, talk show in Waffleonto
http://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articl...rement/4382391
TORONTO!
Shocking
Here's an article I found where it describes where the rumor came from, talk show in Waffleonto
Friday I caught a story out of Toronto that Sidney Crosby’s family was trying to get him to consider retirement from the NHL to protect him from further debilitating injuries. This concussion he has is the worst effect on playing time I have ever seen in any sport. We all know that with enough concussions you could have your career cut short (i.e. Steve Young) but has anyone missed so much time with just one? It was Bob McCown, radio host in Toronto, that started the talk of Crosby retiring. He cited family sources telling him they wanted Crosby to retire. ‘Not True’ was the response from Sidney’s father Troy Crosby. He told ESPN that he just wanted Sidney to get healthy again no matter how long that takes. Crosby’s agent reiterated what Troy Crosby said and added that Sidney Crosby is ‘progressing, but there is no timetable’. The Pens miss Crosby, and no timetable is all we have heard. I can only speculate that we may see Crosby again...
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"There's no one single thing causing concussions," said Bettman. "There is no magic bullet to deal with this. I know that it's an emotional, intense subject, particularly for our fans. We get it. But dealing with this issue is not something you can do whimsically or emotionally.
"You really have to understand what's going on."
According to the league, 26 percent of concussions this season have been caused by 'accidental' collisions, while 44 percent occurred from what the NHL considers a 'legal' hit. Eight percent of concussions are caused due to fighting while 17 percent fall under the heading of an 'illegal' hit.
"You really have to understand what's going on."
According to the league, 26 percent of concussions this season have been caused by 'accidental' collisions, while 44 percent occurred from what the NHL considers a 'legal' hit. Eight percent of concussions are caused due to fighting while 17 percent fall under the heading of an 'illegal' hit.
Even if we were to 100% eliminate head shots and fighting from the game, we would still have a serious concussion problem in the game. Based on the stats they have come up with head shots and fighting only account for 25% of concussions.
If you want to eliminate concussions from hockey you need to get rid of the sticks, pucks, ice, and boards and have them play the game in here.................
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Kopitar to become Kings Iron Man tonight.
...and yea, he just got jinxed
Anze Kopitar will set a Kings franchise record tomorrow night by playing in his 325th consecutive game. Marcel Dionne played 324 consecutive games, from Jan. 7, 1978 until Jan. 9, 1982. Doug Jarvis hold the NHL record with 964 consecutive games played. Kopitar started his streak late in his rookie season, on March 21, 2007, after he returned from a back injury.
...and yea, he just got jinxed
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Did a quick google search, apparently the rumor was started in.... wait for it....
TORONTO!
Shocking
Here's an article I found where it describes where the rumor came from, talk show in Waffleonto
http://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articl...rement/4382391
TORONTO!
Shocking
Here's an article I found where it describes where the rumor came from, talk show in Waffleonto
http://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articl...rement/4382391
Ummm, nowhere did it say or did it ever say Crosby was talking retirement. The story from the get go was "Members of his family". More specifically, not his parents. But members of the family were urging him to consider retirement.
His daddy denying it doesn't discredit the story, sorry. So no, Toronto media wasn't talking retirement.
Nice job copying me by not actually reading the report but just glancing over it.
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This is a quote from the SI link that yummy posted
This is a quote from the SI link that yummy posted
Crosby's return to the ice comes a week after a surprising radio report out of Toronto, in which host Bob McCown floated the idea that some family members were trying to convince him to retire. The notion was quickly debunked.
"This report is baseless," Pat Brisson, Crosby's agent, told Rogers Sportsnet. "At no time has retirement ever been discussed."
Crosby's father, Troy, also responded to the claims.
"We're just trying to get him healthy again," he told ESPN. "How ever long that takes, that's how long it's going to take."
Crosby was even asked, post-practice on Monday, if he ever considered retirement through this process. His reply was a quick "no."
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1Gh8S1rW4
"This report is baseless," Pat Brisson, Crosby's agent, told Rogers Sportsnet. "At no time has retirement ever been discussed."
Crosby's father, Troy, also responded to the claims.
"We're just trying to get him healthy again," he told ESPN. "How ever long that takes, that's how long it's going to take."
Crosby was even asked, post-practice on Monday, if he ever considered retirement through this process. His reply was a quick "no."
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1Gh8S1rW4
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Crosby. Retirement. Toronto media. dom.
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I listen to Mcowan every day so I know EXACTLY what he reported. He did not say Crosby was talking retirement. He did no say His dad or parents were talking retirement. All he said was, and he was very clear about it, is that members of his family who were not his parents were bringing up the R word.
That is not the same as 'Crosby talking retirement' Its really a nothing story that's getting blown out of proportion, and not in Toronto because I haven't heard much about it at all.
And again, denying something means nothing. It happens all the time. Is it so far fetched to think that Croby's sister, brother, aunt or uncle (not even sure if he has any of those) said to him. "Maybe you should consider retiring" And that somehow got back to Mcowan. If that happened, would it really be shocking to anyone?
In the end its a nothing story. I don't think there was ever any doubt he's coming back. And Mcowan was never trying to say there was. Listen to the podcast if you must.
That is not the same as 'Crosby talking retirement' Its really a nothing story that's getting blown out of proportion, and not in Toronto because I haven't heard much about it at all.
And again, denying something means nothing. It happens all the time. Is it so far fetched to think that Croby's sister, brother, aunt or uncle (not even sure if he has any of those) said to him. "Maybe you should consider retiring" And that somehow got back to Mcowan. If that happened, would it really be shocking to anyone?
In the end its a nothing story. I don't think there was ever any doubt he's coming back. And Mcowan was never trying to say there was. Listen to the podcast if you must.
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I don't think anybody here said it was Crosby saying it, all that was said was that it came from Toronto.
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And besides, Toronto is Canada's largest city and has most of the media outlets...They also are home to the Leafs and the HoF...lots of reasons why the report hockey hockey hockey non-stop. It is what they do.