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04-25-2009, 09:31 PM
Tortorella suspened for game 6.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=420130&intcmpid=tckr
While it is a difficult decision to suspend a coach at this point in a playoff series, it has been made clear to all of our players, coaches and other bench personnel that the National Hockey League cannot -- and will not -- tolerate any physical contact with fans,” NHL Senior Executive Vice President and Director of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell said. "We do not take this action lightly. It is the result of an entire day of investigation and evaluation that included the retrieval and review of videotape of the incident and discussions with Mr. Tortorella, other Rangers' bench personnel and a number of other people, including the security personnel at the Verizon Center.
"That investigation revealed that Mr. Tortorella squirted a fan with water before Mr. Tortorella was doused with a beverage.
"That investigation revealed that Mr. Tortorella squirted a fan with water before Mr. Tortorella was doused with a beverage.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=420130&intcmpid=tckr
04-25-2009, 09:49 PM
Wow. I can't get past the hypocrisy benching Avery for lack of discipline and then doing this.
I still hope the fans at the Garden behave.
I still hope the fans at the Garden behave.
04-25-2009, 10:02 PM
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You left out my favorite part
I wonder if the water part is refered to internally as the Tie Domi rule 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WytqeX1kuos
"While, in these circumstances, it always is easy to allege mitigating circumstances, the fact is we do not tolerate contact with our fans in this manner. That is communicated before each season in a memo that is issued by the League to all of the management, coaches and players of every team.
"The Sept. 8, 2008, memo, entitled 'Supplementary Discipline Reminders for the 2008-09 Season,' included the following section regarding Contact With Fans:
Even where a fan is verbally abusive, intoxicated, or profane, club personnel should either ignore the conduct or, where appropriate, seek the assistance of police or security personnel at the arena. This prohibition extends to all forms of physical contact, whether it be direct physical contact, the throwing of objects (including hockey sticks and other equipment) or even the squirting of water. While the latter form of conduct may have, in the past, seemed to be of a minor or harmless character, such conduct may serve only to incite and provoke an unruly fan and may ultimately lead to unforeseen consequences.
Accordingly, please be on notice that all Club personnel (management, coaches, trainers, and/or players) who engage in any form of physical contact with fans, including the squirting of water, will, on a going forward basis, be subject to discipline in the form of a suspension. The Club involved will also be subject to a fine.
"The Sept. 8, 2008, memo, entitled 'Supplementary Discipline Reminders for the 2008-09 Season,' included the following section regarding Contact With Fans:
Even where a fan is verbally abusive, intoxicated, or profane, club personnel should either ignore the conduct or, where appropriate, seek the assistance of police or security personnel at the arena. This prohibition extends to all forms of physical contact, whether it be direct physical contact, the throwing of objects (including hockey sticks and other equipment) or even the squirting of water. While the latter form of conduct may have, in the past, seemed to be of a minor or harmless character, such conduct may serve only to incite and provoke an unruly fan and may ultimately lead to unforeseen consequences.
Accordingly, please be on notice that all Club personnel (management, coaches, trainers, and/or players) who engage in any form of physical contact with fans, including the squirting of water, will, on a going forward basis, be subject to discipline in the form of a suspension. The Club involved will also be subject to a fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WytqeX1kuos
04-25-2009, 11:29 PM
04-26-2009, 12:02 AM
Exciting game.
04-26-2009, 12:12 AM
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Hawks dominate tonight....just one more to advance to the 2nd round, but they're back in Calgary.
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04-26-2009, 01:55 AM
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What a game played by the kids...Walker also gets the toughman award for the game after coming back from blocking that shot with this...finger. 
Now, if only Chicago can continue this in Calgary on Monday...
Now, if only Chicago can continue this in Calgary on Monday...
04-26-2009, 10:09 AM
Much respect for him coming back to the game. His finger was clearly broken.
04-26-2009, 01:29 PM
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For some strange reason, the Hawks-Flames series reminds me sort of the Bulls-Knicks playoff encounters...
Obviously, the Hawks are not a dynasty-in-the-making like Da Bulls...but, there are similarities to how the series has played out. Like the Bulls and Knicks, the Chicago team is clearly more talented, faster, and younger...and so, what does the slower team do? Try to take the kids' heads off...
I never really did mind the Flames much...but, wow after this series, I think I dislike them. Alot.
Obviously, the Hawks are not a dynasty-in-the-making like Da Bulls...but, there are similarities to how the series has played out. Like the Bulls and Knicks, the Chicago team is clearly more talented, faster, and younger...and so, what does the slower team do? Try to take the kids' heads off...
I never really did mind the Flames much...but, wow after this series, I think I dislike them. Alot.
04-26-2009, 04:00 PM
back to DC game 7 I hope Betts is OK, wonder what the league will do to Brashear?
04-26-2009, 04:10 PM
I am not certain which is more frustrating, that they lose or that they find new ways to make their fans believe they can win, then lose.
The officiating has been very lackluster. Brashear gets a minor but Dubinski gets a double and a misconduct?
The officiating has been very lackluster. Brashear gets a minor but Dubinski gets a double and a misconduct?
04-26-2009, 04:16 PM
He got the minor for the roughing with Mara, they didn't call him for the hit on Betts. Don't know how four missed it?
04-26-2009, 04:46 PM
If Lundqvist makes an appearance there is a chance, if the guy that has played the last two games plays you are right.
That's even worse then.
That's even worse then.
04-27-2009, 12:24 AM
chips and smokes, lets go
The Flames look pretty beat up. I don't think they can win two straight now against Chicago. Hawks in 7. I also like Washington and Anaheim to advance. Canes and Devils could go either way.
04-27-2009, 12:42 AM
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But, let's see how Monday's game plays out...here's hoping Chicago can win one on the road in a very tough arena...
04-27-2009, 08:03 AM
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Rangers GM Sends letter to Commish
I'm sorry if this is a re-post
Here is the Link:
http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/0...nd-on-it-goes/
Because it seems we will never actually get to hockey today, here’s a letter Glen Sather and the Rangers sent to Gary Bettman’s office today or Saturday. Seriously:
Subject: Washington vs. New York, Game 5
Dear Gary:
In addition to your suspension of Coach Tortorella for his actions during last night’s game, we respectfully request that you consider appropriate discipline in light of Washington’s gross negligence in ensuring the safety of the personnel on the Rangers’ bench, including Coach Tortorella, in the face of the Rangers’ repeated requests for intervention against egregious fan misconduct during Game 5. As importantly, we would like the League’s intervention to ensure that there are adequate security measures in place to protect our personnel in the event there is a Game 7 in Washington.
Neither the NHL nor either team has had the opportunity to conduct a full investigation or to interview all witnesses but the television coverage and the statements made by Rangers bench personnel make clear that Washington utterly failed in its security obligations to the Rangers, not to mention its own fans. The tension was evident from before the opening face-off. Throughout the game, several people seated immediately behind the visitors’ bench took advantage of the looseness of the glass panels and the unusually wide gaps between the panels to assault the Rangers with some of the most obscene language imaginable. Because of the way the glass is installed, the patron sitting behind Coach Tortorella (the gray-haired, bearded man in the white T-Shirt) could literally scream into the coach’s ear. According to Rangers trainer Jim Ramsay, one patron was screaming at the team, in graphic language, about whether Dan Girardi and Marc Staal have a sexual relationship. This was within earshot of several children seated nearby. Several other fans also made repeated homophobic remarks. Moreover, Mr. Ramsay reported that he and other bench personnel were spit on by one or more “fans” as they yelled through the gaps in the glass.
Your statement tonight referred to alerting security. In the first period, Mr. Ramsay warned the security guard stationed on the nearest stairwell (a large African-American man) that the situation was unacceptable and was likely to get ugly. No action was taken. The misconduct continued. In the second period, Mr. Ramsay warned a female security supervisor that some fans were out of control and that he was concerned that something unfortunate was going to happen. Although this supervisor was equipped with a radio, she apparently took no action, because the same fans were in their seats when the team returned to the bench for the third period. According to press accounts, no fans were ever ejected or permanently removed from their seats.
Washington’s failure to respond to what its personnel knew — and were specifically warned — was a potentially dangerous situation contributed significantly to this unfortunate incident. Accordingly, we respectfully request that you consider imposing appropriate discipline on Washington for its knowing failure to protect the Rangers and prevent the situation from deteriorating into an incident that reflects badly on all of us. In addition, we must immediately discuss how Washington is going to handle security for any Game 7. Neither the Rangers nor the well-behaved Capitals fans should be forced to endure the extraordinary level of fan misconduct that Washington failed to prevent in Game 5.
Thank you for your consideration.
Glen
Here is the Link:
http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/0...nd-on-it-goes/
Because it seems we will never actually get to hockey today, here’s a letter Glen Sather and the Rangers sent to Gary Bettman’s office today or Saturday. Seriously:
Subject: Washington vs. New York, Game 5
Dear Gary:
In addition to your suspension of Coach Tortorella for his actions during last night’s game, we respectfully request that you consider appropriate discipline in light of Washington’s gross negligence in ensuring the safety of the personnel on the Rangers’ bench, including Coach Tortorella, in the face of the Rangers’ repeated requests for intervention against egregious fan misconduct during Game 5. As importantly, we would like the League’s intervention to ensure that there are adequate security measures in place to protect our personnel in the event there is a Game 7 in Washington.
Neither the NHL nor either team has had the opportunity to conduct a full investigation or to interview all witnesses but the television coverage and the statements made by Rangers bench personnel make clear that Washington utterly failed in its security obligations to the Rangers, not to mention its own fans. The tension was evident from before the opening face-off. Throughout the game, several people seated immediately behind the visitors’ bench took advantage of the looseness of the glass panels and the unusually wide gaps between the panels to assault the Rangers with some of the most obscene language imaginable. Because of the way the glass is installed, the patron sitting behind Coach Tortorella (the gray-haired, bearded man in the white T-Shirt) could literally scream into the coach’s ear. According to Rangers trainer Jim Ramsay, one patron was screaming at the team, in graphic language, about whether Dan Girardi and Marc Staal have a sexual relationship. This was within earshot of several children seated nearby. Several other fans also made repeated homophobic remarks. Moreover, Mr. Ramsay reported that he and other bench personnel were spit on by one or more “fans” as they yelled through the gaps in the glass.
Your statement tonight referred to alerting security. In the first period, Mr. Ramsay warned the security guard stationed on the nearest stairwell (a large African-American man) that the situation was unacceptable and was likely to get ugly. No action was taken. The misconduct continued. In the second period, Mr. Ramsay warned a female security supervisor that some fans were out of control and that he was concerned that something unfortunate was going to happen. Although this supervisor was equipped with a radio, she apparently took no action, because the same fans were in their seats when the team returned to the bench for the third period. According to press accounts, no fans were ever ejected or permanently removed from their seats.
Washington’s failure to respond to what its personnel knew — and were specifically warned — was a potentially dangerous situation contributed significantly to this unfortunate incident. Accordingly, we respectfully request that you consider imposing appropriate discipline on Washington for its knowing failure to protect the Rangers and prevent the situation from deteriorating into an incident that reflects badly on all of us. In addition, we must immediately discuss how Washington is going to handle security for any Game 7. Neither the Rangers nor the well-behaved Capitals fans should be forced to endure the extraordinary level of fan misconduct that Washington failed to prevent in Game 5.
Thank you for your consideration.
Glen
04-27-2009, 08:12 AM
That is so effing laughable. It didn't get ugly until Tortorella started throwing shit. BOO WHOO 
He sits Avery because he can't control himself and then he can't take a few words from some dumb shit.
He sits Avery because he can't control himself and then he can't take a few words from some dumb shit.
04-27-2009, 08:19 AM
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It's pathetic... Crying about security measures? Are you serious. It gets ugglier in the minor leagues. If anyone has ever been to a rivalry between ECHL or AHL clubs you know what i'm talking about. The players have even been known to get seriously involved in altercations with fans. Rocking the glass back-and-forth and screaming in someones ear is just something the visitors should come to expect. It's called home ice advantage for a reason.
I have a buddy here at work that is Rangers fan and is so disgusted with Torts. He is livid right now and refuses want to talk hockey. The Verizon center is going to be nuts for Game 7 and will be all over Torts the whole game.
I was at the Game 6 for the Pens on Saturday and I love the Balls Malkin has. After the victory he skates to center ice and claps and raises his stick to the Philly fans. As a diehard Penguins fan I couldn't have asked for more.
I have a buddy here at work that is Rangers fan and is so disgusted with Torts. He is livid right now and refuses want to talk hockey. The Verizon center is going to be nuts for Game 7 and will be all over Torts the whole game.
I was at the Game 6 for the Pens on Saturday and I love the Balls Malkin has. After the victory he skates to center ice and claps and raises his stick to the Philly fans. As a diehard Penguins fan I couldn't have asked for more.
04-27-2009, 11:44 AM
I don't think its Green, but rumors Morrison may get suspended. Supposedly he took a bite out of Brandon Dubinsky. Literally.
04-27-2009, 11:45 AM
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CleanCL! 
Where the hey have you been...?
Where the hey have you been...?
04-27-2009, 11:51 AM
Been watching a lot of hockey this season, just haven't had much time to comment. Nothing much to comment on, other than Western Conference playoffs are so much more entertaining.
04-27-2009, 11:53 AM
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04-27-2009, 12:02 PM
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04-27-2009, 12:17 PM
04-27-2009, 12:20 PM
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And about Cammalleri, I'm still sore at the League for not suspending him for his "Carcillo" on Havlat.
Should be a good game tonight with Calgary raring to go.
04-27-2009, 01:00 PM
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Pens on to round 2
Sorry haven't been around in a few days
Go rangers, and flames
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Go rangers, and flames
04-27-2009, 02:46 PM
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04-27-2009, 02:56 PM
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^ I'm shocked.
04-27-2009, 03:08 PM
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6 games? Damn, harsh, but well deservedHey yummy, that was years ago, let's talk about the last 2 years shall we?
04-27-2009, 03:17 PM
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"He's a big part of our team, for sure," Alex Ovechkin said of Brashear. "He's a big guy in our locker room."
He shouldn't be allowed to wear #87.