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Don't hate. You wish your team had players like Slapya Faceoff.
I shoot people
the World Juniors Hockey Championship finals was a great game, anyone else watched it?
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I stopped watching when Finlandia was eliminated. Which I still can't believe happened.
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Leaves fire their coach.
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97BlackAckCL (01-06-2015)
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Oh, and welcome Babs.
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Nonis did not indicate if or when the Leafs might hire a full-time head coach. According to TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger, a replacement process and candidates review will begin immediately, however, no timeline has been established for a new hire. Dreger adds that all Leaf players are now potential trade targets as the team moves forward.
It's possible Horachek and/or Spott could handle the job for the rest of the season, though there are several external candidates available. They include Pete DeBoer, who was recently fired as coach of the New Jersey Devils.
TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie reports that the most likely scenario is Horachek becoming the interim head coach, as there will likely be many big name coaching candidates available this summer.
It's possible Horachek and/or Spott could handle the job for the rest of the season, though there are several external candidates available. They include Pete DeBoer, who was recently fired as coach of the New Jersey Devils.
TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie reports that the most likely scenario is Horachek becoming the interim head coach, as there will likely be many big name coaching candidates available this summer.
"We'll wait until the end of the season so we can sign Mike Babcock"
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Great pick-up by the Pens in nabbing the #failboat Oilers' Perron: Oilers ship LW Perron to Penguins for 2015 first-round pick, C Klinkhammer - Article - TSN
I mean, the Pens are going to likely pick near the bottom of the 1st round anyhow. So, to get a proven player like Perron on wing is a great trade. And he also has some sandpaper to his game.
Now, let's all make bets on just how badly the Oilers are going to piss away this pick since well, it's not a default #1 overall pick where it doesn't take scouting and skill to select (even though, arguably, Yakupov is a bust of a pick). So, wanna bet this 1st rounder from Pittsburgh is going to be a waste-of-a-pick for Edmonton?
I mean, the Pens are going to likely pick near the bottom of the 1st round anyhow. So, to get a proven player like Perron on wing is a great trade. And he also has some sandpaper to his game.
Now, let's all make bets on just how badly the Oilers are going to piss away this pick since well, it's not a default #1 overall pick where it doesn't take scouting and skill to select (even though, arguably, Yakupov is a bust of a pick). So, wanna bet this 1st rounder from Pittsburgh is going to be a waste-of-a-pick for Edmonton?
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Also got to meet Rounder and Miss Rounder over the weekend, (he didn't ask me for any penis pics btw)
Really nice dude, it was fun to hang out and talk hockey
Really nice dude, it was fun to hang out and talk hockey
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97BlackAckCL (01-07-2015)
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From Ron Wilson.
Ouch.
Some of these core players have failed under two of three coaches,” Wilson said. “You would have to surmise that some of them are uncoachable now.
“Phil’s problem, and I think it’s pretty much how Phil’s been his whole career, is that he is two weeks on and two weeks off,” Wilson said. “You can’t rely on him. That’s just the way he is. It affects his game and his relationship with players.”
“Phil’s problem, and I think it’s pretty much how Phil’s been his whole career, is that he is two weeks on and two weeks off,” Wilson said. “You can’t rely on him. That’s just the way he is. It affects his game and his relationship with players.”
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All else fails, blame Phil the Thrill
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I mean, let's say Sayghin is still horrid on D...have Burjerron and someone else defensively responsible with him?
What's the biggie?
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For what One-Ball Phil is, he still is one of the better scorers in the league. I mean, other than Datsyook, who else that gets 90 points per season is THAT great defensively?
Sure, Sid back-checks but he'll never be a Selke candidate.
Sure, Sid back-checks but he'll never be a Selke candidate.
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For the record though, I still believe the Bruins will make the playoffs. Same as the Kings.
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Is what Seguin's doing a surprise? The universe has a way of balancing itself out. Make a great Kessel trade, and then trade away Seguin for Nuts & Bolts.
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The b's are a hot mess right now. They've always had pairs of forwards and were able to slot in a third.
Marchand/Bergeron Lucic/Krecji Thornton/Campbell peverly/Kelly. Half of those pairs are broken by trades (no st, no peverly), they haven't found a replacement for iginla. Marchand Bergeron is all that's left. The b's bigger problem is they traded away or decided not to re-sign the grit of the team an now they're soft.
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Don't forget jumbo joe.
The b's are a hot mess right now. They've always had pairs of forwards and were able to slot in a third.
Marchand/Bergeron Lucic/Krecji Thornton/Campbell peverly/Kelly. Half of those pairs are broken by trades (no st, no peverly), they haven't found a replacement for iginla. Marchand Bergeron is all that's left. The b's bigger problem is they traded away or decided not to re-sign the grit of the team an now they're soft.
The b's are a hot mess right now. They've always had pairs of forwards and were able to slot in a third.
Marchand/Bergeron Lucic/Krecji Thornton/Campbell peverly/Kelly. Half of those pairs are broken by trades (no st, no peverly), they haven't found a replacement for iginla. Marchand Bergeron is all that's left. The b's bigger problem is they traded away or decided not to re-sign the grit of the team an now they're soft.
Boston can be as tough as you want but if they can't score...ehhhh...even the almighty-amazing-godly-Kings have Maid Marian Gabs on the team. And is he an amazing defender? NOPE.
Well, I'm sure Moog will come back to tell me how wrong I am about Gabby's ability to back-check and play sound 2-way play.
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Anyhow, hope the Bruins learned their lesson and stop trading away forwards that can pile on points.
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Also, paying Loocheech all that money has backfired...I don't know if what I read is accurate but some analysts are calling his play indifferent and he's rarely using his size anymore.
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My fear is that they make a stupid desperate trade that leave them no better off than they are now. This team isn't going to the promised land, accept it and address the issues in the off season.
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The problem with Looch is he "needs someone or something to get him going." There have been rare instances of seeing the "prototypical power forward" this year but they are few and far between.
My fear is that they make a stupid desperate trade that leave them no better off than they are now. This team isn't going to the promised land, accept it and address the issues in the off season.
My fear is that they make a stupid desperate trade that leave them no better off than they are now. This team isn't going to the promised land, accept it and address the issues in the off season.
A trade in this day and age...well, given how close to the cap the team is, equal salary needs to go and come back. So, I dunno how much of a shake-up the GM can do. I hear Edmonton is desperate though.
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It woul have to be a dollar for dollar trade right now, what's the point
Any real trade made right now would involve jettisoning Krecji, Lucic, or Marchand. Next year iginla comes off the books at 4.1 million, thy could also use a compliance buyout on Kelly (which wasn't possible last season because he was on IR). That's an extra 7.3 million to replace 1 roster player.
Any real trade made right now would involve jettisoning Krecji, Lucic, or Marchand. Next year iginla comes off the books at 4.1 million, thy could also use a compliance buyout on Kelly (which wasn't possible last season because he was on IR). That's an extra 7.3 million to replace 1 roster player.
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I hate west coast games. Rangers @ Ducks starts 8:30. grrrrr
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How long until John Tortorella is back behind an NHL bench?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...211340679.html
It's no secret that John Tortorella's tenure in Vancouver was a disaster, but here's one story you may not have heard.
Tortorella never actually lived in Vancouver. Instead, he lived in nearby Point Roberts, which is across the American border, but only about a 45-minute drive from Rogers Arena on a good day. For practice days (which were so rare the players complained) Tortorella would drive in for a brief appearance, and then head home, leaving his assistants to handle everything else.
Mike Gillis got so frustrated with his quick turnarounds that the team eventually built a bed into Tortorella's office so he could take naps there instead of driving home. You can watch Willie Desjardins react with bemusement to the fold-out bed in this video of the Canucks showing their new coach into his office.
But despite Tortorella's one-and-done turn in Vancouver, which is destined for infamy and seems like a pretty logical endpoint to his NHL head coaching career, former GM Jay Feaster is confident that Tortorella's not done.
"I think time heals all wounds," he said in an exclusive interview with the Fischler Report:
I believe that John will get back. General managers in the league know he’s a good coach, and you take the good with the bad. Part of what makes him a good coach is that he does not have the political correctness gene. He is not worried about what you or me or what anybody else thinks about him – he’s going to do what he thinks is right. I think some time away, so time to decompress, I think that’ll be good for him.
I don’t have any doubt that at some point in time, a team is going to be struggling and a team is going to need some discipline, some structure, and a general manager is going to say, “This is a guy that can provide it.”
Feaster's probably right. It won't be too long before some team decides they need discipline, and then makes the puzzling leap that the famously difficult Tortorella is the man to provide it.
It will be insane, especially when you consider a story Feaster told just prior to vouching for Tortorella, about one of the legendary run-ins between Torts and Larry Brooks of the New York Post.
After a heated game versus the Devils, Feaster was worried Tortorella would blow up if he went out for his postgame presser before calming down:
We were literally nose to nose in each other’s faces. I was between he and the door. He said, “Jay, I’m telling you, I’m fine.” We go back and forth with this song and dance, so off he goes to do the media. It wasn’t three minutes later that somebody came walking by and said, “Guess what your head coach just told [NY Post reporter] Larry Brooks to do on live television?” Of course he dropped another F-bomb and he came back in and I looked at him and I said, “I thought you were fine!” He hanged his head and looked at me and said, “Did I put you in a bad spot?” If I had a dollar for every time I heard him say, “Did I put you in a bad spot?” We had a lot of fun together.
"Did I put you in a bad spot?" is the new "Did I do that?" One assumes he also said this to Mike Gillis after trying to punch his way through the Calgary Flames' hallway like that one scene in Oldboy.
And yet, Tortorella's next opportunity -- to be a paragon of discipline, ironically enough -- will undoubtedly come. I can hardly fathom it. Back in March, I asked aloud if we were living in the end times of Tortorella's coaching career:
If John Tortorella is let go after this season, he may never coach in the NHL again. There were few that wanted him last season before the Canucks surprised everyone and decided to take a chance, and they were burned for it. Who else is going to look at what's happened here in Vancouver, and how clearly at fault the coach has been for much of it -- how out of control he was that night in the hallway versus Calgary, how badly he mismanaged his goalies at the Winter Classic, how thoroughly he destroyed the Sedinery that made Vancouver so special, how, by the end of one season, nothing worked, and he looked completely out of ideas -- and say, 'he's our guy'?
Nobody is, I suggested, foolishly, but Feaster's words are a reminder that I wasn't being nearly cynical enough about the NHL's front-office recycling program.
Still, as crazy as it seems to me, I'm looking forward to Tortorella's return. Hockey needs personalities like him -- guys who can't help but be themselves, regardless of how difficult that is.
And let me tell you, it is difficult. In the interview, Feaster tells of players coming to his office to complain about Tortorella's in-your-face approach.
"The guy would come in and say, 'He hates me.' I would always tell him, 'Don’t flatter yourself, he hates all of us.'"
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...211340679.html
It's no secret that John Tortorella's tenure in Vancouver was a disaster, but here's one story you may not have heard.
Tortorella never actually lived in Vancouver. Instead, he lived in nearby Point Roberts, which is across the American border, but only about a 45-minute drive from Rogers Arena on a good day. For practice days (which were so rare the players complained) Tortorella would drive in for a brief appearance, and then head home, leaving his assistants to handle everything else.
Mike Gillis got so frustrated with his quick turnarounds that the team eventually built a bed into Tortorella's office so he could take naps there instead of driving home. You can watch Willie Desjardins react with bemusement to the fold-out bed in this video of the Canucks showing their new coach into his office.
But despite Tortorella's one-and-done turn in Vancouver, which is destined for infamy and seems like a pretty logical endpoint to his NHL head coaching career, former GM Jay Feaster is confident that Tortorella's not done.
"I think time heals all wounds," he said in an exclusive interview with the Fischler Report:
I believe that John will get back. General managers in the league know he’s a good coach, and you take the good with the bad. Part of what makes him a good coach is that he does not have the political correctness gene. He is not worried about what you or me or what anybody else thinks about him – he’s going to do what he thinks is right. I think some time away, so time to decompress, I think that’ll be good for him.
I don’t have any doubt that at some point in time, a team is going to be struggling and a team is going to need some discipline, some structure, and a general manager is going to say, “This is a guy that can provide it.”
Feaster's probably right. It won't be too long before some team decides they need discipline, and then makes the puzzling leap that the famously difficult Tortorella is the man to provide it.
It will be insane, especially when you consider a story Feaster told just prior to vouching for Tortorella, about one of the legendary run-ins between Torts and Larry Brooks of the New York Post.
After a heated game versus the Devils, Feaster was worried Tortorella would blow up if he went out for his postgame presser before calming down:
We were literally nose to nose in each other’s faces. I was between he and the door. He said, “Jay, I’m telling you, I’m fine.” We go back and forth with this song and dance, so off he goes to do the media. It wasn’t three minutes later that somebody came walking by and said, “Guess what your head coach just told [NY Post reporter] Larry Brooks to do on live television?” Of course he dropped another F-bomb and he came back in and I looked at him and I said, “I thought you were fine!” He hanged his head and looked at me and said, “Did I put you in a bad spot?” If I had a dollar for every time I heard him say, “Did I put you in a bad spot?” We had a lot of fun together.
"Did I put you in a bad spot?" is the new "Did I do that?" One assumes he also said this to Mike Gillis after trying to punch his way through the Calgary Flames' hallway like that one scene in Oldboy.
And yet, Tortorella's next opportunity -- to be a paragon of discipline, ironically enough -- will undoubtedly come. I can hardly fathom it. Back in March, I asked aloud if we were living in the end times of Tortorella's coaching career:
If John Tortorella is let go after this season, he may never coach in the NHL again. There were few that wanted him last season before the Canucks surprised everyone and decided to take a chance, and they were burned for it. Who else is going to look at what's happened here in Vancouver, and how clearly at fault the coach has been for much of it -- how out of control he was that night in the hallway versus Calgary, how badly he mismanaged his goalies at the Winter Classic, how thoroughly he destroyed the Sedinery that made Vancouver so special, how, by the end of one season, nothing worked, and he looked completely out of ideas -- and say, 'he's our guy'?
Nobody is, I suggested, foolishly, but Feaster's words are a reminder that I wasn't being nearly cynical enough about the NHL's front-office recycling program.
Still, as crazy as it seems to me, I'm looking forward to Tortorella's return. Hockey needs personalities like him -- guys who can't help but be themselves, regardless of how difficult that is.
And let me tell you, it is difficult. In the interview, Feaster tells of players coming to his office to complain about Tortorella's in-your-face approach.
"The guy would come in and say, 'He hates me.' I would always tell him, 'Don’t flatter yourself, he hates all of us.'"
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Hey, maybe the Leaves hire Dallas Eakins!
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Woke up to Rangers 4-Ducks 1.
WOOT!!
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