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04-20-2014 | 02:15 PM
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Like I said, Hawks deserve to be down 2-0.
04-20-2014 | 08:50 PM
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CHICAGO - CHICAGO – “Wakey, wakey.”
As if the rivalry between the Chicago Blackhawks and St. Louis Blues needed more ugliness, the on-ice microphones used for the television broadcast gathered more fuel for the fire in the aftermath of the suspension-garnering hit Blackhawks defenceman Brent Seabrook threw on Blues captain David Backes.
Amidst the scrum which ensued, somebody can be heard saying “Wakey, wakey” to Backes, who was having all kinds of difficulty staying on his feet. The most common belief is Blackhawks alternate captain Duncan Keith is the culprit, but there can be no proof.
From the other side, Blues forward Alex Steen appears to be responding, “Show some %&@*# class” while trying to help Backes.
As well, a photo was snapped of Seabrook sporting an ear-to-ear grin after being separated by officials from the scrum.
Seabrook was handed a three-game suspension Sunday, the first of his nine-year career, but as the series shifts to Chicago for Monday's Game 3 and with the Blues holding a 2-0 edge in the best-of-seven affair, the bad blood may very well make its way across the state line from Missouri to Illinois.
“I saw them talking to him. It makes it a little more gutless,” Blues forward Ryan Reaves said after his team's optional practice in St. Louis. “I don't think there's any need for that when a hit like that happens. You don't need to be going after him when he doesn't even know where he is.
“I'm not happy about that. I don't think anybody in this organization is happy about it. To see that happen, I think is just embarrassing in that organization for that to happen.”
Neither Seabrook or Keith were made available to address the media on Sunday, and Blackhawks head coach Joel Quenneville - who is likely to turn to Sheldon Brookbank to fill his opening among the defencemen - said he didn't hear of any of his players taunting Backes.
Blues head coach Ken Hitchcock, who was also upset about Bryan Bickell's kneeing infraction on Vladimir Sobotka, wasn't about to weigh into the taunting issue.
“That's something that the league can deal with, Duncan's comments or his mannerisms or whatever,” Hitchcock said. “They can deal with that. I'm sure there will be somebody saying something to him.”
Whether it's a word or worse remains to be seen. Same for what happens next in what's been an entertaining series to start.
At first glance, it would be a miracle if Backes didn't suffer a concussion from Seabrook's hit and played on Monday.
“All I know is he's upright. That's about it right now,” Hitchcock said on Sunday. “We don't have any further information and probably won't until late tomorrow. I know one thing, he couldn't play today.”
As if the rivalry between the Chicago Blackhawks and St. Louis Blues needed more ugliness, the on-ice microphones used for the television broadcast gathered more fuel for the fire in the aftermath of the suspension-garnering hit Blackhawks defenceman Brent Seabrook threw on Blues captain David Backes.
Amidst the scrum which ensued, somebody can be heard saying “Wakey, wakey” to Backes, who was having all kinds of difficulty staying on his feet. The most common belief is Blackhawks alternate captain Duncan Keith is the culprit, but there can be no proof.
From the other side, Blues forward Alex Steen appears to be responding, “Show some %&@*# class” while trying to help Backes.
As well, a photo was snapped of Seabrook sporting an ear-to-ear grin after being separated by officials from the scrum.
Seabrook was handed a three-game suspension Sunday, the first of his nine-year career, but as the series shifts to Chicago for Monday's Game 3 and with the Blues holding a 2-0 edge in the best-of-seven affair, the bad blood may very well make its way across the state line from Missouri to Illinois.
“I saw them talking to him. It makes it a little more gutless,” Blues forward Ryan Reaves said after his team's optional practice in St. Louis. “I don't think there's any need for that when a hit like that happens. You don't need to be going after him when he doesn't even know where he is.
“I'm not happy about that. I don't think anybody in this organization is happy about it. To see that happen, I think is just embarrassing in that organization for that to happen.”
Neither Seabrook or Keith were made available to address the media on Sunday, and Blackhawks head coach Joel Quenneville - who is likely to turn to Sheldon Brookbank to fill his opening among the defencemen - said he didn't hear of any of his players taunting Backes.
Blues head coach Ken Hitchcock, who was also upset about Bryan Bickell's kneeing infraction on Vladimir Sobotka, wasn't about to weigh into the taunting issue.
“That's something that the league can deal with, Duncan's comments or his mannerisms or whatever,” Hitchcock said. “They can deal with that. I'm sure there will be somebody saying something to him.”
Whether it's a word or worse remains to be seen. Same for what happens next in what's been an entertaining series to start.
At first glance, it would be a miracle if Backes didn't suffer a concussion from Seabrook's hit and played on Monday.
“All I know is he's upright. That's about it right now,” Hitchcock said on Sunday. “We don't have any further information and probably won't until late tomorrow. I know one thing, he couldn't play today.”
you're off the hook for now Pen fans.
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04-20-2014 | 09:24 PM
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04-21-2014 | 09:11 AM
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04-21-2014 | 10:22 AM
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Every team has its goons/dirty players. Some just more than others. But saying "Wakey, Wakey" as a guy is struggling to get up and is likely concussed is beyond classless. Its bottom of the shoe in a barn type of stuff. They should strip his gold from Sochi and force him to play in Toronto for the rest of his career.
Every team has its goons/dirty players. Some just more than others. But saying "Wakey, Wakey" as a guy is struggling to get up and is likely concussed is beyond classless. Its bottom of the shoe in a barn type of stuff. They should strip his gold from Sochi and force him to play in Toronto for the rest of his career.
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04-21-2014 | 10:35 AM
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:crickets: from Yumchah.
Every team has its goons/dirty players. Some just more than others. But saying "Wakey, Wakey" as a guy is struggling to get up and is likely concussed is beyond classless. Its bottom of the shoe in a barn type of stuff. They should strip his gold from Sochi and force him to play in Toronto for the rest of his career.
Every team has its goons/dirty players. Some just more than others. But saying "Wakey, Wakey" as a guy is struggling to get up and is likely concussed is beyond classless. Its bottom of the shoe in a barn type of stuff. They should strip his gold from Sochi and force him to play in Toronto for the rest of his career.
What do you want me to say? Defend their actions? I already posted that they deserved to lose and Seabrook needed to be suspended?
I'm not about to go down the Pittsburgh path of denial.
@ Bolts...
04-21-2014 | 10:42 AM
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As they say, a series is not a series until the home team loses a game.
Still, Quick et al needs to shape up. They are making Corey Crawford and other no-name goalies look like Vezina winners.
04-21-2014 | 11:23 AM
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If only Shanaban was still in charge. He would of fixed this mess.
04-21-2014 | 11:26 AM
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04-21-2014 | 01:21 PM
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04-21-2014 | 01:46 PM
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I can't wait to read the explanation in here how Seabrook's hit was "clean". 
Now excuse me while I go throw up somewhere. Cansucks were once the dirtiest team in the League. Nope, that title now belongs to the Hawks...congrats. I suppose they need something to be #1 at something with all those playoff fail-boats.
Now excuse me while I go throw up somewhere. Cansucks were once the dirtiest team in the League. Nope, that title now belongs to the Hawks...congrats. I suppose they need something to be #1 at something with all those playoff fail-boats.
04-21-2014 | 02:27 PM
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You know, Ack...you asked me to lay off of your team and I nicely obliged. I can easily start again.
I'm not even defending Seabrook for his actions. And his hit and Bickell's smart move cost Chicago a victory in a big game. So...
And I have ZERO problems talking about what is bad. Crap is crap.
Also, read my posts...none of it was meant to instigate. I was arguing valid points. You're just trying to pile on the one guy who was at least talking reasonably about an Orpik hit that was pretty dirty. You sure you want to go down this path?
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04-21-2014 | 02:33 PM
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And how can you compare Orpik to Seabrook? The guy has 60-something PIMs over the last 3 seasons...and is known to NOT be a dirty player.
And when challenged, at least Seabrook DOES fight. Orpik? Skates away. Again, not even close in comparison.
And when challenged, at least Seabrook DOES fight. Orpik? Skates away. Again, not even close in comparison.
04-21-2014 | 02:40 PM
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04-21-2014 | 02:40 PM
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Most of the planet said Chicago should've channeled their inner Pengoon and took out Sid...but, they didn't. And most of the planet called Chicago "soft".
Chicago responds against a hard-hitting St. Louis squad targeting Toews et al and now, they are dirty. Can't have it all, can they?
Again, I'll say it again: Seabrook was a dumb@$$ for costing Chicago the game. But, I also give him the benefit of the doubt since he has zero history of taking heads off of players unlike Orpik who makes a living off of it.
04-21-2014 | 02:42 PM
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04-21-2014 | 02:43 PM
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I'm saying Seabrook's hit was retarded and deserves suspension...so, Ack here cheerfully says I'm proving his point about Orpik? Okay...so, that means, he agrees Orpik should've been suspended and Orpik is a dumbass?
Cool. Glad we agree.