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Old 02-19-2014, 08:21 AM
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Old 02-19-2014, 08:48 AM
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Sweden killed Slovakia.

Wow. Finland beat Russia.
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Old 02-19-2014, 08:51 AM
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Finlandia still on track for Gold.

I feel for Russia. Huge disappointment to lose on home ice like this. Poor guys.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:39 AM
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Finlandia still on track for Gold.

I feel for Russia. Huge disappointment to lose on home ice like this. Poor guys.
So a consistently 5th place team can finish no lower than 4th place and took out one of hockeys "super powers". Canadian math at it's finest.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:51 AM
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So a consistently 5th place team can finish no lower than 4th place and took out one of hockeys "super powers". Canadian math at it's finest.
Huh?
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The Finns have always had a respectable program and I'm sure they're a lovely people. But they've always been that 5th or 6th best team internationally. Behind Canada, Russia, USA, Sweden and the Czechs.

Been like that in the Juniors as well.
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Canadian math. Who took gold in the world juniors? Who can't finish worse than 4th in the Olympics? Who's that 5th or 6th best team internationally?
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by black label
And that still hasn't changed IMO.

Only way we can ever settle this argument is with a true best of 7 or something similar. Anything can happen in 1 game.

Congrats on your run of luck cheering on the Finlandians. I hope it continues.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by black label
Who's that 5th or 6th best team internationally?
Finland. IMO. Poll the world and I'd bet 90% would agree with me.

What kills me is the Finns will lose to the Swedes next, finish 4th and Black Label will hang his hat on that 4th place finish. A whole 1 position higher than what I predicted.









If they win Gold I will fly myself and black label to Finland for a vacation.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
And that still hasn't changed IMO.

Only way we can ever settle this argument is with a true best of 7 or something similar. Anything can happen in 1 game.

Congrats on your run of luck cheering on the Finlandians. I hope it continues.
Oh, I see so if international hockey was the NHL, then you're wacky canadian theories would be right. We aren't talking 7 game series, we aren't talking Stanley Cup playoffs, we are talking international hockey, international rules, international rink size.

Why not add some goonery to the mix to help the canadians too.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:21 AM
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Are you serious? Cause I can't tell?

We're talking 1 game elimination. That has far more importance than the the international rules and ice size. Do you honestly believe Finland would beat Russia over a 7 game series?
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Are you serious? Cause I can't tell?

We're talking 1 game elimination. That has far more importance than the the international rules and ice size. Do you honestly believe Finland would beat Russia over a 7 game series?
I'm saying what would happen in a seven game series is about as relevant to an international tournament as how well they would fare in a texas holdem match or a game of chess.

That's not how the game is played. 1 game elimination is international rules, best of 7 is NHL rules.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:35 AM
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And a side note since you seem to be confused on how international hockey works...

If Sweden were to beat Finland, Finland wouldn't automatically fall to 4th place. The winner moves on to the gold medal match, the loser would play for bronze. Just so you know, it will be a single game, not a best of 7 series.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by black label
I'm saying what would happen in a seven game series is about as relevant to an international tournament as how well they would fare in a texas holdem match or a game of chess.

That's not how the game is played. 1 game elimination is international rules, best of 7 is NHL rules.
Finland could go onto win this tournament. And that will do nothing to convince me that they're the best team internationally. A 1 game elimination is not a true measure of who the best team is. That's all I'm suggesting.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by black label
And a side note since you seem to be confused on how international hockey works...

If Sweden were to beat Finland, Finland wouldn't automatically fall to 4th place. The winner moves on to the gold medal match, the loser would play for bronze. Just so you know, it will be a single game, not a best of 7 series.
That Bronze medal game may as well not even be played IMO. Good luck trying to get the players up for that game.
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Originally Posted by dom
Finland could go onto win this tournament. And that will do nothing to convince me that they're the best team internationally. A 1 game elimination is not a true measure of who the best team is. That's all I'm suggesting.
So if Canada wins, we can safely say they are not the best team internationally as well?
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by black label
So if Canada wins, we can safely say they are not the best team internationally as well?
I would have no problem with you making that argument. Look how close the last Gold medal game was. Bounce here or there and its a different result.
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:33 AM
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Just came in to say FINLANDIA!
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:52 AM
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Wow, too bad for the Russians...all that pressure to win at home and nothing. Putin probably is rounding up the players' families as we speak.


Again, in a one-game match-up, anything can happen.
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Old 02-19-2014, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Again, in a one-game match-up, anything can happen.
The results were as expected.

1. Sweden 3105

2. Finland 3065

3. Russia 3040

4. Czech Republic 2975

5. Canada 2940

6. United States 2895

7. Switzerland 2845

8. Slovakia 2840

9. Norway 2685

10. Germany 2650
And where was Germany?
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Canada can't even handle Latvia comfortably.
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Meanwhile the US is walking all over the Czhechs.
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The fallout from Russia's disastrous hockey performance at the Sochi Games is already turning radioactive.

In a press conference after a 3-1 loss to Finland eliminated Russia from medal contention, the team's coach singled out Alexander Ovechkin for his role in the disappointment.

"I cannot explain" how he only scored once in the team's four Sochi games, Zinetula Bilyaletdinov told reporters Wednesday.

Rob Rossi, a Penguins beat reporter with the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, tweeted that there was "heated friction" between the Russian team's coaches and Ovechkin and fellow NHL star Evgeni Malkin. It was focused on "KHL bias, lines and situational usage," Rossi wrote.

Neither Malkin nor Ovechkin scored after the team's opening game in Sochi.

The team played under enormous pressure at a Winter Olympics on home soil, and the post-game press conference apparently grew tense.

As Brian Costa of The Wall Street Journal noted on Twitter, one Russian reporter challenged Bilyaletdinov over his work behind the bench.

"What is your responsibility? How guilty are you feeling?" Costa quoted the reporter as asking. "Probably Ovechkin and Malkin should have been on (different) lines."
In about an hour you can replace Ovechkin and Malkin with Crosby and Towes.
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The results were as expected.



And where was Germany?
The entire German team consists of Marco Sturm (retired) and Dennis Seidenberg (torn acl/mcl).
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All you clownz who are "surprised" about Finlandia beating Russia should be banned from this thread.

It's not like Finlandia world domination was unknown around these parts.
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Originally Posted by black label
The entire German team consists of Marco Sturm (retired) and Dennis Seidenberg (torn acl/mcl).
Was there a qualification tourney to get in? or did they select the top 12? I had presumed it was top 12 so when I saw the Germans there I was surprised.
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All you clownz who are "surprised" about Finlandia beating Russia should be banned from this thread.

It's not like Finlandia world domination was unknown around these parts.
Can you please call Brad Doty and tell him to save Canadian Bacon once again please. I'm getting nervous.
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Sweden killed Slovakia.

Wow. Finland beat Russia.
Slovenia, you mean.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
All you clownz who are "surprised" about Finlandia beating Russia should be banned from this thread.

It's not like Finlandia world domination was unknown around these parts.
What..., you gonna make a "call out thread" ?
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Can you please call Brad Doty and tell him to save Canadian Bacon once again please. I'm getting nervous.
Latvians are definitely hanging around.
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Quick making only 11 saves today to win. Was it essentially a 60 minute PP for USA?
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Was there a qualification tourney to get in? or did they select the top 12? I had presumed it was top 12 so when I saw the Germans there I was surprised.
The top 9 make the Olympics, the last three must qualify through other tournaments. Latvia, Slovenia, and Austria took those last 3 spots.
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The top 9 make the Olympics, the last three must qualify through other tournaments. Latvia, Slovenia, and Austria took those last 3 spots.
I had no idea you were an encyclopedia of international hockey.
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Latvians are definitely hanging around.
Thank god I'm not watching.
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Tavares left the game, hasn't return. That goal or not..., no goal...
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Thank god I'm not watching.
Team Beaver to the PP.
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Does Buffalo wait til after the game? or do they go get Nolan's signature on that contract extension now?
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Can you please call Brad Doty and tell him to save Canadian Bacon once again please. I'm getting nervous.
Sorry, Doty and Carter are all out of goals, they are reverting back to LA Kings.
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SOG are 51-12. This is Maple Leaf hockey.
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Does Buffalo wait til after the game? or do they go get Nolan's signature on that contract extension now?
He's got his team believing. Then again, didn't Canada have to gut through a crazy game like this in Vancouver to reach the medal rounds?
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