The Official Wagon/Avant Discussion Thread
#2842
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Wow, $40K in white with recaro with only 44k miles...sweet mofuggin deal...
luck of the draw, I bet at the right time with the right buyer they could have gotten closer to 50K.
might be a lull in resale value...give it some time, as they become more scarce the value might increase...no?
JB knows better than me, I think.
luck of the draw, I bet at the right time with the right buyer they could have gotten closer to 50K.
might be a lull in resale value...give it some time, as they become more scarce the value might increase...no?
JB knows better than me, I think.
#2843
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^ Market seems weird on these. One minute you can't touch one for under $45k....next minute you can find some in the low $40k range.
I'm looking closer to $40k when the time comes for a new ride so hopefully there are still some options come next year... otherwise, it will come off of the list
I'm looking closer to $40k when the time comes for a new ride so hopefully there are still some options come next year... otherwise, it will come off of the list
#2844
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I would have jumped on that easily when I was looking if it was available. The market definitely is weird and not very consistant right now that is for sure. I still think they will drop a little more or at least hand around the low $40k for a few more years. I would think it will take at least till then are older than 9 or 10 years old before they start going back up in price for examples with less than 50k miles.
#2845
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Yeah, mine won't be that.
I'd likely ask $45K and settle around there but remember I'm base seats and black with some blemishes...so, not perfect or show car.
Does look great when cleaned up and my list of mods are as aggressive as you want while still being able to say that you kept it stock.
We'll see...for the time being I still enjoy it too much but my 50 mile daily is getting to me.
I'd likely ask $45K and settle around there but remember I'm base seats and black with some blemishes...so, not perfect or show car.
Does look great when cleaned up and my list of mods are as aggressive as you want while still being able to say that you kept it stock.
We'll see...for the time being I still enjoy it too much but my 50 mile daily is getting to me.
#2846
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*cough*E63*cough*
It's really a shame that the only Mercedes options are base V6 or AMG. But, I guess they figure a non-AMG V8 wouldn't sell. Maybe we'll get an E43 Estate to fill the gap
Edit: 330/354 for the E400 & 603/627 for the E63S. Something in the 4-450 range for a mid-level Estate would work.
#2847
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*cough*E63*cough*
It's really a shame that the only Mercedes options are base V6 or AMG. But, I guess they figure a non-AMG V8 wouldn't sell. Maybe we'll get an E43 Estate to fill the gap
Edit: 330/354 for the E400 & 603/627 for the E63S. Something in the 4-450 range for a mid-level Estate would work.
It's really a shame that the only Mercedes options are base V6 or AMG. But, I guess they figure a non-AMG V8 wouldn't sell. Maybe we'll get an E43 Estate to fill the gap
Edit: 330/354 for the E400 & 603/627 for the E63S. Something in the 4-450 range for a mid-level Estate would work.
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Yeah, mine won't be that.
I'd likely ask $45K and settle around there but remember I'm base seats and black with some blemishes...so, not perfect or show car.
Does look great when cleaned up and my list of mods are as aggressive as you want while still being able to say that you kept it stock.
We'll see...for the time being I still enjoy it too much but my 50 mile daily is getting to me.
I'd likely ask $45K and settle around there but remember I'm base seats and black with some blemishes...so, not perfect or show car.
Does look great when cleaned up and my list of mods are as aggressive as you want while still being able to say that you kept it stock.
We'll see...for the time being I still enjoy it too much but my 50 mile daily is getting to me.
This is why I passed on that E63 wagon. Sold for $57k plus the fees on top of that from bring a trailer. Then you add in tax and tags and you were looking at around $65k. There is no way I was going to get someone to give me $55k for my Vagon and the only way it would have worked is if I was only paying $10k more max for the upgrade.
#2850
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#2851
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I'm changing up my strategy a bit... being a bit "smarter" with these things. Rather experience more cars for the same amount of money as one car. EX: One E63 AMG... $55k+ . One Vagon (or other car) for, say, $40k.... one S2K for say, $14k... $1k left over for an exhaust or something. Less is more
#2852
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JB, you are talking to a guy with 3 cars here...
literally my decision to buy the Vagon I did optioned as it is was that if I didn't go over X number, I could also keep the S2000...that was the deal with the ex wife.
The Audi was just a crazy cheap deal and I wanted to try my hand at troubleshooting a German car.
literally my decision to buy the Vagon I did optioned as it is was that if I didn't go over X number, I could also keep the S2000...that was the deal with the ex wife.
The Audi was just a crazy cheap deal and I wanted to try my hand at troubleshooting a German car.
#2853
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I'm changing up my strategy a bit... being a bit "smarter" with these things. Rather experience more cars for the same amount of money as one car. EX: One E63 AMG... $55k+ . One Vagon (or other car) for, say, $40k.... one S2K for say, $14k... $1k left over for an exhaust or something. Less is more
If I had the space/time/money. I'd find a W123 or W124 wagon & M104 swap it with a 5MT.
#2854
Race Director
Drive at 25: Audi RS2 Avant
One of the coolest on the 25-year horizon is Audi’s legendary RS2 Avant, a car we’ve been hotly anticipating becoming legal since it debuted in 1994. Around 2,900 were made over an all-too-short 16-month production run ending in July 1995, all of which were assembled at Porsche’s small Rossle-Bau facility where just months earlier assembly of the 500E had ceased–notably, it’s also where the 959 was built. Unlike with the mighty Benz however, Porsche did way more than just assemble the Ur-RS, and it was mostly Zuffenhausen engineering that made the 911-mirrored estate among the very fastest production cars on the planet when introduced.
#2855
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
https://www.autoscout24.de/angebote/audi-rs2-80-avant-motor-erst-11-tkm-ueber-35-000--invest-benzin-schwarz-5274e157-5c47-cd0e-e053-e350040a9b00?cldtidx=3
#2856
Race Director
Yeah, examples are reportedly priced around US$40k ....
#2857
Race Director
Buick execs getting a bit too optimistic about Regal TourX sales? Time will tell, I suppose.
Circling the Wagons: Buick Bullish on TourX - The Truth About Cars
Circling the Wagons: Buick Bullish on TourX - The Truth About Cars
Upon the Regal’s rollout for 2018, the marque estimated the TourX take rate would be around 30 percent. Now, thanks to either a rethink of market demands or someone’s innate love of wagons, Buick has revised that number upwards.
According to the company, the first Buick wagon in more than 20 years could account for nearly 50 percent of Regal sales.
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The midsize sedan market is shrinking like a freshman’s bank account, so moving the Regal into a niche market may prove to be a sensible shift. Buick expects to harvest shoppers from Subaru and Volvo showrooms, no mean feat when those two brands enjoy healthy buyer loyalty. As a bodystyle, liftbacks and wagons have generally been shunned by Americans like fetid cheese, making the marque’s foray into these markets an interesting one to track.
[...]
The midsize sedan market is shrinking like a freshman’s bank account, so moving the Regal into a niche market may prove to be a sensible shift. Buick expects to harvest shoppers from Subaru and Volvo showrooms, no mean feat when those two brands enjoy healthy buyer loyalty. As a bodystyle, liftbacks and wagons have generally been shunned by Americans like fetid cheese, making the marque’s foray into these markets an interesting one to track.
#2858
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Did we decide that Shooting Brakes didn't count? To me this looks more wagon than SB.
#2859
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#2860
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
I count the Jag "Shooting Brake" as a wagon. Ferrari? Not so much.
And I'll see your bug eye Subaru with the one that should come to the USA
And I'll see your bug eye Subaru with the one that should come to the USA
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#2861
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:grovel:
#2862
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#2864
I drive a Subata.
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I've decided to keep my Avant for longer so it's going to get some maintenance done! Carbon deposit cleaning and spark plugs soon. It has given me trouble free 90k miles so far. Pretty happy with it! Don't think it's going to get much miles since we got our Minivan.
#2865
Team Owner
you already got 90k trouble free miles out of it... anything else is a bonus So get it tuned!
What is the worst that can happen? you know Tyler got your back with engine swap in case if you need it
What is the worst that can happen? you know Tyler got your back with engine swap in case if you need it
#2866
I drive a Subata.
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#2867
Team Owner
Oh well then enjoy!
#2868
I drive a Subata.
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Never touched or looked at the Avant after getting the Sienna though. Just so infinitely more practical than the wagon with a kid and a pregnant wifey.
#2870
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#2874
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Also found this somewhat locally...
2001 Audi Allroad 6mt, Stage 3: https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d...495787027.html
2001 Audi Allroad 6mt, Stage 3: https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d...495787027.html
#2875
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Full body color Allroad
#2877
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Chapter Leader (South Florida Region)
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but that's the same 2.7TT from the B5 S4?
PASSSSSS!!!!!!! I don't have the stomach for that...and after someone else put that much heart sweat blood and tears into it to make it a stage 3...and then is selling it...you know it's a temperamental bitch.
PASSSSSS!!!!!!! I don't have the stomach for that...and after someone else put that much heart sweat blood and tears into it to make it a stage 3...and then is selling it...you know it's a temperamental bitch.
#2878
Race Director
#2879
Race Director
Other end of the spectrum .... again from Demuro....
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#2880
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Only one of these (the S4) is affordable on my personal budget ....