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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
^ Van is not cheaper to buy, or run... not sure about insurance.

and no, modern SUVs are not a lifted van...
It is, fuel economy and maintenance is less and an Oddy is cheaper than a comparable Pilot.

Unless you're talking about a "real" SUV like a 4Runner, Wrangler, etc...they are all basically lifted vans with swinging doors.

Originally Posted by Majofo
Do you have kids or a wife nagging you to get a van? move along
No, I have a dog. This is why I don't have a van. If/when I have more than one child, I'd get one though. Are you telling me my opinion is less valid than yours?

My parents had three of them growing up and they were all awesome for a daily, general use, road trips, hauling sh1t, moving my stuff to/from college, etc. The utility really is second to none. The only reason the parents don't still have one is that none of us live there anymore so there's no reason to have such a big car.

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You do realize you are arguing with me about a matter of preference, right? Where do you think that's going to end up?
Yeah I understand that. You do you, just stating my opinion.

Also, MB made this and it didn't sell at that well:

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 09:20 AM
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Aside from not knowing the reliability aspect, I'd rock an AMG R-Class.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
Ain't no minivan, but it is a blown LSA under the hood.



Side note: This guy strapped 2 turbos to this bitch, just recently.
Umm. .isn't that a ZL1 lid on it already?? holy balls.. yes!

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In terms of driving experience, I really don't give a shit about how the minivan or SUV drives. It's a family car for the family. Utility is king for me. Losing a man card for driving a van? Okay, I will lose it. LOL

I will have fun in my fun cars. Am I going to track or canyon drive a minivan or fun car? Fun car.
What's more fun than taking a minivan and spanking the shit out others on the track?

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:03 AM
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:18 AM
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holy balls that's art.

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Aside from not knowing the reliability aspect, I'd rock an AMG R-Class.
Speaking of an AMG R-Class....

For $29,000, Could This 2007 Mercedes-Benz R63 AMG Be Your Maximum Minivan?

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:34 AM
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Re: R-Class

we've all seen this, right?

This Mercedes R63 AMG Owner is Rebuilding His Engine to Avoid a $57,000 Repair
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
holy balls that's art.

dude's rendering skills are off the shizzoook. works for EA and other software companies. has done stuff for Need for Speed, etc.

if I had skills like that, I'd never leave the house.

https://www.artstation.com/artist/khyzylsaleem
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:40 AM
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Oooof, ouch! Nevermind.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:45 AM
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Anyone with a pre-2012 6.2L AMG engine who doesn't change out the head bolts is just asking for it.
ARP studs for it are only 1k.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:56 AM
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holee sh*tt..... moar wide - moar better

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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This looks like a fun eps.. I'd love one of these bad boys.. looks great.. effing blown 454..

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
That knob allows you to fine tune what's coming out of the face vents. I find it really nice during winter. Of course you're freezing your ass off, so you blast the heater. After a while it feels like your face is on fire, even if the vents aren't pointing at you. So that little knob allows you to adjust the face vent temp, without altering overall cabin temp too much.

So to reiterate, with the heat on, you can adjust it so your face is hot, or cool.

I don't even own a BMW, shame on you guys
thanks for the rundown!!! ummmm I had no idea it was like that, I only used it either extreme, for either purpose. lol might have to check it out. I don't think the 7 has this control, btw. but the 335 does.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
Srika, did you ever tell us you had a 288 Evo in your neck of the woods?
ummmmm first time seeing it, haven't seen anything about it on the local fronts. now..... where is it?
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:13 PM
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Spoiler.. another H2H where the car that wins in each category.. loses.
Reggo ZL1 beats 350R in the straights and on the track.. butt.... of course the 350R wins.
I'm guessing the 1LE version is more than a second quicker.

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Focus RS.. seriously.. I'd rather get a Golf R or STI or CTR.
How come?
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:44 PM
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Okay.. maybe not a CTR..
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Aside from not knowing the reliability aspect, I'd rock an AMG R-Class.
Remember When Mercedes Went Crazy and Built a 507-HP Minivan?

EDIT: Okay I am late to the R stuff, heh.

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by srika


This! This is amazing!
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:50 PM
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I never really considered the R to be a minivan though. Bc no sliding doors. Remember when Oddy had 4 doors..
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:57 PM
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Okay.. RS is higher on my list after this popped up in my feed.

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:01 PM
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The RS is one of my favorite overall cars that has come out in a long time. It would make an amazing daily driver.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I never really considered the R to be a minivan though. Bc no sliding doors. Remember when Oddy had 4 doors..
More akin to the Flex & 1G Ody, than a van.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:48 PM
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No doubt the front is van-ish.. they really shoehorned that 6.2L in there..
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I never really considered the R to be a minivan though. Bc no sliding doors. Remember when Oddy had 4 doors..
Seats 6-7 in three rows, shaped like a van...so what is it then?

Originally Posted by Majofo


No doubt the front is van-ish.. they really shoehorned that 6.2L in there..
Yup, and only sold ~200 of them worldwide. It's definitely a unicorn though I wouldn't want one after your comment on the head bolts.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Seats 6-7 in three rows, shaped like a van...so what is it then?



Yup, and only sold ~200 of them worldwide. It's definitely a unicorn though I wouldn't want one after your comment on the head bolts.
but thats with any pre-2012 AMG 6.2
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Seats 6-7 in three rows, shaped like a van...so what is it then?



Yup, and only sold ~200 of them worldwide. It's definitely a unicorn though I wouldn't want one after your comment on the head bolts.
A SUVagon

Head bolts are simple shit.. well.. simple shit if it's not shoehorned in.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:57 PM
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It's a stout engine otherwise.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Okay.. RS is higher on my list after this popped up in my feed.

It's petty, but I have the style wipers on the Focus, no real reason, just don't like it.
Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
The RS is one of my favorite overall cars that has come out in a long time. It would make an amazing daily driver.
I'd daily one for sure, even with the above petty dislike. That, or a Fusion Sport.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:59 PM
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i even fucked with the headbolts on the acura.
#justonjacks
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
but thats with any pre-2012 AMG 6.2
So the X55 cars are the ones to get? I can't afford one newer than 2012.

Originally Posted by Majofo
A SUVagon

Head bolts are simple shit.. well.. simple shit if it's not shoehorned in.
Don't you have to pull the cams and everything out to swap the bolts? Even with the motor in, that's still a lot of work to deal with for timing and other such nonsense though it's not as bad as it could be I guess provided you don't need to pull the motor to get at the stuff.

Definitely a stout motor though, AMG's have always been really good on that front. I really want a S55 AMG to drive around in for a summer.

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It's petty, but I have the style wipers on the Focus, no real reason, just don't like it.

I'd daily one for sure, even with the above petty dislike. That, or a Fusion Sport.
I'm heavily considering getting one later this summer as a DD. Would be a lot more fun than the Jeep. Though the other part of me wants a new Wrangler to really hit trails with...
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:03 PM
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Shit.. I'd daily a 99 E55
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:04 PM
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There's an '08 GL63 w/ 62k for 22k.. all receipts local to me. It's a bad mambo.
I'd really consider it, but need a 3rd row.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Umm. .isn't that a ZL1 lid on it already?? holy balls.. yes!



What's more fun than taking a minivan and spanking the shit out others on the track?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNXDatuj88
My friend was one of the engineers for that Sienna R right there. haha He can build me the same one if I pay obviously.

But yeah, the car will stay stock. Stopping by at a local Honda dealership this week to check out the new Odyssey and Civic Type R.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:12 PM
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Don't you have to pull the cams and everything out to swap the bolts? Even with the motor in, that's still a lot of work to deal with for timing and other such nonsense though it's not as bad as it could be I guess provided you don't need to pull the motor to get at the stuff.
It's not that bad.. just mind your marks!
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1

Don't you have to pull the cams and everything out to swap the bolts? Even with the motor in, that's still a lot of work to deal with for timing and other such nonsense though it's not as bad as it could be I guess provided you don't need to pull the motor to get at the stuff.

Definitely a stout motor though, AMG's have always been really good on that front. I really want a S55 AMG to drive around in for a summer.


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lol if i could pull the heads from the acura, ANY one can.
<-----not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed

it was def. a learning experience! but wouldnt want to learn on AMG engine.
the Acura, I knew engines were plentiful and if i scewed up, i could get another easy...

which then...I proceeded to screw up...
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:24 PM
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M156 isn't an LSx.. but it's pretty simple
I love watching the assembly video of it
So satisfying and sublime
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:27 PM
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stupid crank gear sprog!
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
I'm heavily considering getting one later this summer as a DD. Would be a lot more fun than the Jeep. Though the other part of me wants a new Wrangler to really hit trails with...
Definitely the RS for me in that case, but only because most off-roading here, is just getting muddy.
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Shit.. I'd daily a 99 E55
W210s are nice, but in that era, maybe a C43
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There's an '08 GL63 w/ 62k for 22k.. all receipts local to me. It's a bad mambo.
I'd really consider it, but need a 3rd row.
Doesn't the GL have 3rd row? Don't know as much on the MBZ SUVs :ashamed:
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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Oops.. wishful thinking.. ML63.
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