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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 02:05 PM
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So, you like Korean cars.
and yeah, you could say I’m a fan of your Hyung-dai
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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 02:06 PM
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Yup, just like I like my women
















smol, Korean, and high maintenance


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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 02:13 PM
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The front plate just slapped across the grilles like that that looks horrendous!

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Audi > BMW

Change my mind
I'd say virtually all new Audis for the last 15-20 years or so have been considered the best or one of the best-looking in their class.

It's actually very impressive when you consider how inconsistent other carmakers have been over that same period of time. BMW has had the Bangle Butt and whatever the fuck this is, Acura had the beak, Lexus' hourglass grilles were controversial, Infiniti once made the QX56. The list goes on.

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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 02:18 PM
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Audi > BMW

Change my mind
I prefer RWD only... so i mean there is 1 RWD car in Audi line up and i cannot afford it, R8 RWD...

So yah.... with the shitty programs Audi offers and non-RWD, those are the reasons why i havent had any Audi...

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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I prefer RWD only... so i mean there is 1 RWD car in Audi line up and i cannot afford it, R8 RWD...

So yah.... with the shitty programs Audi offers and non-RWD, those are the reasons why i havent had any Audi...
You've driven Audis, right?
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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 02:21 PM
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Yah.... plenty of times. I used to work for Audi remember? .. i still prefer RWD if given a choice... if possible, I dont want ANY power in the front...

Not say better or worse.. just personal preferences...
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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Yah.... plenty of times... i still prefer RWD if given a choice... if possible, I dont want ANY power in the front...
Fair enough.

I dunno...Mercedes would be your other consideration but they may not be sporty enough for you.
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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 02:36 PM
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That is why i said i might still end up with 1.... even tho i dont really like the design... either that or i will join the SUV dark side and get a X3M... for $70k.... it is a performance bargain...

I am just worried that i might flip the car from turning too fast

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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
That is why i said i might still end up with 1.... even tho i dont really like the design... either that or i will join the SUV dark side and get a X3M... for $70k.... it is a performance bargain...

I am just worried that i might flip the car from turning too fast
Based on the track videos I've seen of the X3M being flogged, I don't think you'd flip it unless you were being a real idiot. That said, I'd get the X3 M40i and save yourself the money. Toss a mild tune on and you have a X3M for a lot less cash.

Also, this is the very first car I've seen where they put front plates on it to make it look better. I don't think I've ever seen a brochure where they have a front plate on the show car in recent times.
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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Based on the track videos I've seen of the X3M being flogged, I don't think you'd flip it unless you were being a real idiot. That said, I'd get the X3 M40i and save yourself the money. Toss a mild tune on and you have a X3M for a lot less cash.

I have never "owned" a real M car... i think i would wanna do it right at least once... Ideally i would wanna get the M4GC.... but i think the timing of its release and the markup/discount at the time will put it out of my price range.

and ppl are getting 10% off MSRP on X3M even before this COVID19 thing... so that alone is very attractive to me... but i dont really like SUVs.... sigh..
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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1

Also, this is the very first car I've seen where they put front plates on it to make it look better. I don't think I've ever seen a brochure where they have a front plate on the show car in recent times.
I can't wait to see what aftermarket solution will be. I am sure there will be a lot cuz M3/M4 will have the same face...
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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
That is why i said i might still end up with 1.... even tho i dont really like the design... either that or i will join the SUV dark side and get a X3M... for $70k.... it is a performance bargain...

I am just worried that i might flip the car from turning too fast
Nah, these things are very stable


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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I have never "owned" a real M car... i think i would wanna do it right at least once... Ideally i would wanna get the M4GC.... but i think the timing of its release and the markup/discount at the time will put it out of my price range.

and ppl are getting 10% off MSRP on X3M even before this COVID19 thing... so that alone is very attractive to me... but i dont really like SUVs.... sigh..
That's fair. I can appreciate that for sure. 10% off MSRP is tempting though...

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I can't wait to see what aftermarket solution will be. I am sure there will be a lot cuz M3/M4 will have the same face...
M3 will have the same face? I thought it would be based off the 3 series?
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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 08:55 PM
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That 4 coupe kinda looks like this (the grille man, the grille)



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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 11:07 AM
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Just got a text from my dad that he's looking at a '72 280SE Mercedes today, might pick it up for $500. Might have a fun project in the works soon.
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He got the car. Probably a week or two before he can get it home. Needs to get new tires on it to be able to roll it out of the garage (grass yard area) where it's stored.
Would do too much damage to the seller's yard to back the truck & trailer in there.

Should be a fun project.
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
That's fair. I can appreciate that for sure. 10% off MSRP is tempting though...



M3 will have the same face? I thought it would be based off the 3 series?
Since the introduction of M4 - F80, M3/M4 share the same front end and M4 is based on the 4 series
The back is where the differences are.

The next M3/M4 will be the same.






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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 02:37 PM
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This is the new M3... i mean you can already see the grill


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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 02:57 PM
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Dinan with the sick burn


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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 03:06 PM
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Hopefully at minimum, it can be broken up, if there is necessity for upper & lower airflow.
Keep the kidneys on top for the BMW look & go with a single opening across the bottom.
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 03:55 PM
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With a design like that you would think it would look more aggressive at least.. ugly but aggressive (Lexus)

But somehow they manage to make it ugly and vanilla... The M sport bumper looks so .... boring..
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 03:58 PM
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i am trying really hard to want 1.... unlike the F32 design... this one doesnt do anything for me.. shit..
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 04:23 PM
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All look good... except i just can't overlook the nose..


430i / 430i xDrive
B46 2.0-liter 4-cylinder BMW TwinPower turbocharged engine
255 hp @ 5,000 – 6,500 rpm (an increase of 7 hp)
294 ft-lbs. of torque @ 1,550 – 4,400 rpm (an increase of 36 ft-lbs)
0-60 mph in 5.5 seconds for 430i
0-60 mph in 5.3 Seconds for 430i xDrive
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B58 3.0-liter inline 6-cylinder BMW TwinPower turbocharged engine
382 hp @ 5,800 – 6,500 rpm (an increase of 62 hp)
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0-60 mph in 4.3 seconds
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 04:38 PM
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I can't unsee the buck-teef look.
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
With a design like that you would think it would look more aggressive at least.. ugly but aggressive (Lexus)

But somehow they manage to make it ugly and vanilla... The M sport bumper looks so .... boring..
​​​​​​ Somehow they managed to make a $50-60k car look cheap.
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 06:03 PM
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I think the blacked out grill looks better.. But looks better =/= looks good

LOL @ that tiny US license plate tho...


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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Since the introduction of M4 - F80, M3/M4 share the same front end and M4 is based on the 4 series
The back is where the differences are.

The next M3/M4 will be the same.
Just look at how good that one looks...

Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I think the blacked out grill looks better.. But looks better =/= looks good

LOL @ that tiny US license plate tho...
I can't do it. I really wanted to get the next gen M3 in manual for myself as I've always wanted one but I can't do that nose. That and they discontinued the euro delivery program.

Guess it's off to another brand.
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 07:00 PM
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I'd honestly wait a year or two or until the facelift hits before getting a M3. This design is so widely hated that they'll probably change or tweak it to be better.

The person who did this design should get fired.
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 07:33 PM
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On all other brands, this buck-teef/pig-snout is laughed and -ed...but, since BMW, it'll sell.
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 08:57 PM
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Is BMW trying to copy Lexus with the big, open, and ugly grille? I mean, I see some historical lineage, but it's really hysterical lineage (the Bangle days?)
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I'm pretty sure whomever designed that front bumper has a weird fetish for wax lips.



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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Just look at how good that one looks...



I can't do it. I really wanted to get the next gen M3 in manual for myself as I've always wanted one but I can't do that nose. That and they discontinued the euro delivery program.

Guess it's off to another brand.
i am sure there will be a lot of aftermarket solution for the nose. The aftermarket solutions in 2020 seems to be a lot better in quality and fitment when compare to our old days...
Also if you wanted a Manual... you dont really have any other choices.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
i am sure there will be a lot of aftermarket solution for the nose. The aftermarket solutions in 2020 seems to be a lot better in quality and fitment when compare to our old days...
Also if you wanted a Manual... you dont really have any other choices.
I'm not buying a $75k car just to turn to the aftermarket to fix the shitty styling. I'd rather have a good auto and an awesome looking car out of the gate.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 01:54 PM
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RS5 Sportback.... !!! if you can live with Auto...

But it feels like it will be "underpowered" compare to the upcoming 500hp+ M3/M4

I dont see you as a Benz guy....

I still can't believe i am saying RS5 is underpowred hahah

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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 02:09 PM
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People are gonna buy the 4-series regardless, because BMW

That front end is an atrocity though, if they honestly don't change it within a year or two I will be surprised. But if they don't, I won't be surprised because of what I said above #circularlogic
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Genesis G70 comes in manual.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 02:19 PM
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Genesis G70 comes in manual.
As cool as it is, I'm too shallow to ever own one.
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It's like paying $2000 for an Invicta or Sturhling watch.

Like, whut?
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