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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 01:09 PM
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From my understanding its about dispersement of energy
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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 02:31 PM
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I'd rather my car be made out of whatever that light post is made out of...
No, you wouldn't. The energy of the collision is not absorbed at all by the materials used to construct the light post; so, the energy of the collision would go through you. It's the primary reason today's cars are much safer in an accident than a tank-like Chevy from the 60's.

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From my understanding its about dispersement of energy
This.
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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 03:36 PM
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Any kind of crumple zone won't do a whole lot in a side impact (if we're assuming the car hit that light pole sideways). I wouldn't be surprised if that car was designed to do that. Probably better than the car staying together but wrapping itself around like so:




I found some reading on the crashworthiness of CF and other composites vs. metals anyway:

The Challenge of Crashworthiness for Composites Cars - HyperWorks Insider

It's a cool article if you have a couple minutes.
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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 05:22 PM
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No, you wouldn't. The energy of the collision is not absorbed at all by the materials used to construct the light post; so, the energy of the collision would go through you. It's the primary reason today's cars are much safer in an accident than a tank-like Chevy from the 60's.



This.
Sorry, I should have posted that in red text. Of course absorption is better but that lamp post didn't even look damaged in the slightest. Also, splitting completely in half just behind the passenger compartment is equal parts absorption and deadly too. This doesn't even count the fire...why is it that italian sports cars are always on fire?
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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Sorry, I should have posted that in red text. Of course absorption is better but that lamp post didn't even look damaged in the slightest. Also, splitting completely in half just behind the passenger compartment is equal parts absorption and deadly too. This doesn't even count the fire...why is it that italian sports cars are always on fire?
This is the million dollar question. It does seem to be a recurring theme.
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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 06:37 PM
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I saw that on my local news last night.

A Lincoln T-boned that Lambo. For once, it is not the Lambo's fault according to the witness.

Good thing i removed my signature. Apparently Lambo's traction control is not as good as Acura's.
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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 07:09 PM
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The NSX is Italian now?
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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 09:40 PM
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The NSX is Italian now?
Yes. If you put on Pirellis.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 03:41 PM
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Clarkson's 10 best cars he's driven this year: The 10 best cars Jeremy Clarkson has driven this year
  • Mazda Miata MX-5 Sport
  • Alfa Romeo 4C
  • Mercedes-AMG GT S
  • Ford Focus RS
  • Ford Mustang GT
  • Volvo XC90
  • Vauxhall Zafira Tourer
  • BMW M2
  • Ferrari 488 GTB
  • Lamborghini Aventador
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 04:15 PM
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So he has driven the RS already? anyone got the verdict on that?

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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Clarkson's 10 best cars he's driven this year: The 10 best cars Jeremy Clarkson has driven this year
  • Mazda Miata MX-5 Sport
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Needs more Mazdaspeed.

I wish they offered Fiat's 1.4L in the MX-5. I'm still not crazy about the front end on the Fiat. And no matter how you slice it, IMO the Mazda has better styling from every angle.
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Costco
Needs more Mazdaspeed.

I wish they offered Fiat's 1.4L in the MX-5. I'm still not crazy about the front end on the Fiat. And no matter how you slice it, IMO the Mazda has better styling from every angle.
Agreed, though Goodwin Racing is putting down nearly 200 at the wheels; header, midpipe, exhaust & tune.
OVTuning is working on a turbo ND.
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
Needs more Mazdaspeed.

I wish they offered Fiat's 1.4L in the MX-5. I'm still not crazy about the front end on the Fiat. And no matter how you slice it, IMO the Mazda has better styling from every angle.
Yes to all of this.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Sorry, I should have posted that in red text. Of course absorption is better but that lamp post didn't even look damaged in the slightest. Also, splitting completely in half just behind the passenger compartment is equal parts absorption and deadly too. This doesn't even count the fire...why is it that italian sports cars are always on fire?
They separate like that because the passenger compartment is a "tub". Its the safety cell (just like in a F1 car). Everything else gets bonded/bolted to it and is often times designed to separate like that to minimize damage/end energy transferal into the passenger compartment/cell.
As for the fires, Its Mostly because of the chemicals that are used to bond the composites (arent welded together like steel/alum) and the resins for the CF.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
They separate like that because the passenger compartment is a "tub". Its the safety cell (just like in a F1 car). Everything else gets bonded/bolted to it and is often times designed to separate like that to minimize damage/end energy transferal into the passenger compartment/cell.
As for the fires, Its Mostly because of the chemicals that are used to bond the composites (arent welded together like steel/alum) and the resins for the CF.

so, were they going 45mph or not?


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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
so, were they going 45mph or not?


Paul.
43mph
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Agreed, though Goodwin Racing is putting down nearly 200 at the wheels; header, midpipe, exhaust & tune.
OVTuning is working on a turbo ND.
Actually stumbled upon GWR's post of their longtube header + tune for the ND. I find it hard to believe, really, for 91 octane. A BRZ/FR-S will dyno around 200 to the wheels with full exhaust (including header) and an E85 tune. Very generous dyno possibly, I see a lot of NDs baseline around 140whp.

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Yes to all of this.
a 2.5L option would be nice too. Not holding my breath though, I've been waiting for Subaru to drop a 2.5L in the BRZ since the beginning.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
Actually stumbled upon GWR's post of their longtube header + tune for the ND. I find it hard to believe, really, for 91 octane. A BRZ/FR-S will dyno around 200 to the wheels with full exhaust (including header) and an E85 tune. Very generous dyno possibly, I see a lot of NDs baseline around 140whp.



a 2.5L option would be nice too. Not holding my breath though, I've been waiting for Subaru to drop a 2.5L in the BRZ since the beginning.
Do this and be done with it.



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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 04:59 PM
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^ I support this idea.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 05:11 PM
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or you could do this:

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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
No, you wouldn't. The energy of the collision is not absorbed at all by the materials used to construct the light post; so, the energy of the collision would go through you. It's the primary reason today's cars are much safer in an accident than a tank-like Chevy from the 60's.



This.
Tai Chi comes to mind.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 10:11 PM
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Mazda is having a ride and drive event for the new CX-9 right in my neighborhood. So, I stopped by to check them out as they have peaked my interest in recent months. Especially, since the Cherokee has 8 months left on the lease.

Man, these things are pretty sexy, and the interior...holy crap. One of the best in class.

I'm kinda in love.

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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 11:57 AM
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I walked by over this ironing and drove one.

Holy wow!!! This thing is impressive. It's really fun to drive. And you'd never guess it only had a turbo 4.

Thisnis is definitely on the list when my wife's lease is up next year.
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
Actually stumbled upon GWR's post of their longtube header + tune for the ND. I find it hard to believe, really, for 91 octane. A BRZ/FR-S will dyno around 200 to the wheels with full exhaust (including header) and an E85 tune. Very generous dyno possibly, I see a lot of NDs baseline around 140whp.
Goodwin's been at it for a while. Haven't seen any other dyno posts with the full system yet. If I end up with an ND, it'll likely get the GWR longtube/midpipe & GWR race muffler with OVTune.

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a 2.5L option would be nice too. Not holding my breath though, I've been waiting for Subaru to drop a 2.5L in the BRZ since the beginning.
Supposedly, the 2.5 isn't an easy fit, though not impossible.

Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Do this and be done with it.
Flyin Miata has a 525hp LS3 in one of their shop NDs. Not sure on cost, but

Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Mazda is having a ride and drive event for the new CX-9 right in my neighborhood. So, I stopped by to check them out as they have peaked my interest in recent months. Especially, since the Cherokee has 8 months left on the lease.
Man, these things are pretty sexy, and the interior...holy crap. One of the best in class.
I'm kinda in love.
If we didn't already have the Flex, I'd be trying to convince my wife to check these out. Really like the looks of it,
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Mazda is having a ride and drive event for the new CX-9 right in my neighborhood. So, I stopped by to check them out as they have peaked my interest in recent months. Especially, since the Cherokee has 8 months left on the lease.

Man, these things are pretty sexy, and the interior...holy crap. One of the best in class.

I'm kinda in love.

Agree, they are very impressive inside and sexy outside as well.
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 11:05 PM
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AMS' new GTR ran 7.35 @ 200 mph today........



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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 08:41 AM
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200 MPH in a 1/4??
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 09:24 AM
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We also tested the CX-9 and it was one of our finalists though we haven't made a move yet. I was very impressed by it. Hopefully they'll play ball with you. Just came out.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I walked by over this ironing and drove one.

Holy wow!!! This thing is impressive. It's really fun to drive. And you'd never guess it only had a turbo 4.

Thisnis is definitely on the list when my wife's lease is up next year.
i saw one on the way back from Vegas.... obviously dont know how it drives but its got road presence. It looks more upscale than MDX.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 02:17 PM
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i saw one on the way back from Vegas.... obviously dont know how it drives but its got road presence. It looks more upscale than MDX.
It's a Mazda. Wouldn't be surprised if it's fun to drive, especially for a vehicle of its size.

I saw the CX-9 in a commercial and was very impressed by the styling, inside and out
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 07:54 PM
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Cadillac needs to get this thing into production yesterday:

Cadillac Escala Concept First Look: A Picture Window Into Cadillac?s Future - Motor Trend

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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
It's a Mazda. Wouldn't be surprised if it's fun to drive, especially for a vehicle of its size.

I saw the CX-9 in a commercial and was very impressed by the styling, inside and out
Yeah...it was pretty damn fun.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 10:43 PM
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Caddy looks hot, but are they really calling it the ESCALA??? Lol come on you can do better than that. Anyways, looks hot.
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Yeah...it was pretty damn fun.
What else are you considering...?
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
Caddy looks hot, but are they really calling it the ESCALA??? Lol come on you can do better than that. Anyways, looks hot.
I think it's pretty fitting. means scale in spanish. and that car is Balanced!!!
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 06:51 AM
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I figured it was word play on Escalade
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 06:55 AM
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 08:54 AM
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Caddy looks hot, but are they really calling it the ESCALA??? Lol come on you can do better than that. Anyways, looks hot.
They can leverage the existing supply chain for the Escalade badge in order to get some extra cost cutting in there.
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