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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 11:30 PM
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On Hondata's website they say "By way of example this car was baselined at the dyno with a test pipe, 06 Civic Si intake manifold and replacement air filter. All gains (35 hp) were made from FlashPro tuning."

If I read everything correctly, they are using a '06 Si K20 intake manifold on a '09 TSX K24 (The dyno chart was of a '09 TSX). What!??



I'd suspect within 20-35HP and 10-15LB-FT in gains.
Thanks Timmy18 - I had seen a dyno today and now for the life of me I cannot find it - but it showed an approx. 15 HP gain but a slight loss of TQ - had me worried. If it truly gets me at least 20HP and 10 Lb/Ft I would buy tomorrow. Really want to see someone with an ILX that has a stock/baseline dyno and another with zero/minimal aftermarket parts but with the Flashpro tune. Apples to Apples.


I know the gains with a SC and flaspro can be very impressive - but since I'm using similar size piping to the stock set-up and not going cat-less I'm just a bit hesitant to spend $700 without seeing at least 1 concrete example
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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 12:27 AM
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Thanks Timmy18 - I had seen a dyno today and now for the life of me I cannot find it - but it showed an approx. 15 HP gain but a slight loss of TQ - had me worried. If it truly gets me at least 20HP and 10 Lb/Ft I would buy tomorrow. Really want to see someone with an ILX that has a stock/baseline dyno and another with zero/minimal aftermarket parts but with the Flashpro tune. Apples to Apples.


I know the gains with a SC and flaspro can be very impressive - but since I'm using similar size piping to the stock set-up and not going cat-less I'm just a bit hesitant to spend $700 without seeing at least 1 concrete example
You know that reminds me.. usually we get dynos from TOV.net pn new Hondas and Acuras but I haven't seen a ILX 2.4 dyno yet or even a MDX or ILX review. It may just be because they've already done the 09' TSX 6MT and that the current Si and ILX 6MT all share the overall same engine so it would sorta be a waste to do.

If it helps 2G TSX, 9G Civic Si and your car all have 99% same motor. So any of their dyno's should reflect your car.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 03:57 PM
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HID Replacement

Ordered some 8000K HIDs to replace with the factory HIDs.

How hard are these dang things to install? Seems nearly impossible to do without taking a bunch of parts off - maybe even taking the headlight housing out?

Shops say they will charge 1 hour per headlight which could be anywhere from $150-$240. That does not seem worth it for $40 Bulbs.

Really want them in but things aren't looking too promising. Anyone posted a DIY yet?
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 04:10 PM
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^ I think you'll be making that DIY for us.

And I'm sure it's roughly the same process as other Honda's and Acuras. It involves removing the bumper..
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 09:09 PM
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^ I think you'll be making that DIY for us.

And I'm sure it's roughly the same process as other Honda's and Acuras. It involves removing the bumper..
Shit. Ok well that'll have to wait a couple weeks - need to do it outside and it great pacific northwest - in rains damn near everyday. the Honda Cr-Z wasn't hard at all to just change bulbs - took less than 10 min total. Too bad for those people who have a headlight go out - cost a pretty penny to replace those at the dealership.


Got the LEDs for the fogs in the mail today - will do those tomorrow hopefully. Just unscrew from the bottom and pop out the plastic cover? does it come all the way off or just give you enough room to remove/replace the bulb?
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 07:43 AM
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errr....am I reading this right? you need to remove the bumper to replace a light bulb?

if so...wtf designed it like this?

sigh...they should look how volvo (xc90, 08+ cars) does it on their cars...no need to remove bumper.
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by OSUBeaver
Ordered some 8000K HIDs to replace with the factory HIDs.

How hard are these dang things to install? Seems nearly impossible to do without taking a bunch of parts off - maybe even taking the headlight housing out?

Shops say they will charge 1 hour per headlight which could be anywhere from $150-$240. That does not seem worth it for $40 Bulbs.

Really want them in but things aren't looking too promising. Anyone posted a DIY yet?
LOL welcome to ricerdom.
please return those 8000k's.
you'll not only look dumb but you will be straining your eyes at night due to loss lumens.
visibility is lost with anything above 5000 Kelvin.


the simplest way to install the bulbs, is to take off the front bumper.
remove 4 or 6 screws and then slowly pull the bumper from the headlight clips.

after the front bumper is off, you'll have an easier access to install.

if you were trying to install the bulbs through the wheel well, you better have tiny hands.
cut the the wheel to either the left or right for better access.

but the easiest way is to drop the front bumper.

but please, return those stupid blue/purple bulbs
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 09:11 AM
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8000k is terrible.
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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I agree, why would you jack the car up with 8000Ks when you have great HIDs already? You have too much time on your hands. Return the bulbs and keep the factory warrantee intact.
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Factory warranty will not be lost with bulb replacement.
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 04:16 PM
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Might as well put some blue tint over the headlight housing, there's your 8K HID's right there...lol
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 08:32 AM
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I would shoot for some Phillips 85122+ 5200k bulbs as you get both the bluish tint, but have great output still.

Like stated above, anything over 4300k-5200k you really start to give up lumens for color.
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 08:56 PM
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hey guys! long time, no talk. I saw some tlx reveals today and thought that I should chime in on here and see what you folks think!
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 02:34 AM
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I think the proposed TLX is a home run that will surely get Acura in line with the German counterparts. Contrary to what i was anticipating, the TLX is a very mean car that will attract young buyers.
But since this is an ILX forum, ill try to be a bit relevant. I think the TLX's rear (especially the lights) have an ILX feel. Furthermore, assuming that the 2015 ILX will have the Jewel Lights, the Acura sedan line up will be much more cohesive and thrilling. It was a solid day in Honda/Acura World.
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 08:28 AM
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I think it looks great.
Really don't understand the drama with the non-visible exhaust though. Does it really bother people that much?

My grandmother's previous 6 S-Class Mercedes all had hidden exhaust (not really apples-to-apples, I know). Her '14 has an AMG package, so it's got the exhaust outlets integrated with the bumper. It really doesn't matter either way to me, as long as it's an overall good looking package & flows together well.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 02:09 PM
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My concern with the TLX is that it may take people away from the ILX. This happened with the TSX / TL. The fact is that it's moderately bigger (so more rear leg room), offers more power, and I hear talks of 34k pricing. Given that the ilx premium (which probably has features that a base tlx will be equipped with) is 30k, I feel like people wouldn't mind stepping up...especially with the attractive lease rates acura always offers. Is that their tactic, who knows? But I feel like Acura should've made the ilx pricing 1 or 2k lower for the premium and tech offerings...I mean you barely get more when you step up to premium on the 2014 cars....it almost makes that package not worth it.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 05:25 PM
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My concern with the TLX is that it may take people away from the ILX. This happened with the TSX / TL. The fact is that it's moderately bigger (so more rear leg room), offers more power, and I hear talks of 34k pricing. Given that the ilx premium (which probably has features that a base tlx will be equipped with) is 30k, I feel like people wouldn't mind stepping up...especially with the attractive lease rates acura always offers. Is that their tactic, who knows? But I feel like Acura should've made the ilx pricing 1 or 2k lower for the premium and tech offerings...I mean you barely get more when you step up to premium on the 2014 cars....it almost makes that package not worth it.
I would suspect that was Acura's plan all along, at least as far as our first-gen ILXs are concerned. Perhaps the second generation versions of our cars (should Acura continue the line) will address the grousing about how any "small" Acura should be the Integra reborn, and more sporting-oriented. That would keep the differentiation intact, and might also explain why some elements in our cars, including the trim packaging, seem a little half-baked.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 05:37 PM
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Acura has made it very clear they do not plan on making a new integra. NSX is the sports car they are developing. Nothing else. They have also stated their line up is finished.
ILX Entry Level
TLX Mid Size
RLX Flagship
NSX Dream on wheels

The TLX will not be cross shop-able with the ILX because the ILX is an entry level luxury sedan and the TLX is the midsize option. Two different markets. The only people willing to cross shop the two have money they dont know what to do with if they can afford the TLX but are okay with the ILX... unless they need a small car.

Price wise... the base RLX is 48,500. The base ilx is 26,900. The TLX will be right in the middle... I assume more toward the 40k figure.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 05:51 PM
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Acura has made it very clear they do not plan on making a new integra...

That's been the company line for years... but, I dunno. Acura isn't having a lot of success with that strategy. 2,000 units sold is considered a good month for the ILX.

After more than a decade of giving its customers what Acura thinks they want, perhaps it's time for Acura to listen to what the vox populi is telling them they want. Just throwing that out there; I am not a product planner. :-)
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Believe me I want a new integra too. Im just speaking of what seems insanely obvious to me.

The only reason the ILX has such poor sales is because people live in the damn past. More than half this thread hates anything Acura has put out since the 3g TL. Even more car enthusiasts insist acura lost their way after the 90s.... included in that is the 3g TL.

Acura believes removing the TSX will leave people with two options, forking out money for the TLX or purchasing their entry level vehicle. In reality, the tsx and tl were too closely matched. They fought for sales numbers. With the TSX, no one cared for the ILX. JUST GET A TSX was what I heard before purchasing.

Now people wanting an Acura that cant afford the TLX will buy the ILX and learn it is just as damn good. The people that want something quicker and larger need to go a full class higher... not just half a class like the tsx was.


Ive been saying since I was a child I dont understand why people dont throw ferrari style bodies on accords and civics. I still dont. Ricers and cheap bastards everywhere would pick up a 150hp Ferrari. I truly think car manufacturers are trying to create a divide between nice cars and average cars so they can push the price tags they throw out.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 06:36 AM
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Hello everyone,

In checking out a few forums I'd come across a picture for the test mule of the CTR (Civic Type R) behind it was an ILX with the same matt black paint and Jewel Eyes headlamps were applied. I've tried to find it again and haven't had any success, has anyone else seen this?? The MMC is suppose to be a significant update or maybe a total platform change considering the CTR rides on one.

Also with the TSX going away in a few months, Acura is now free to create new models for the ILX. With the 2.0T, 9AT, and lighter SH-AWD will they finally create a ILX Tpye-S? They have issues with bringing the CTR stateside so I assume with a higher profit margin in the Acura line this would be their gateway and a way to challenge the S3, CLA45, Verano Turbo, and whatever version of the upcoming 1-series BMW unleashes.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 09:48 AM
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Hello everyone,

In checking out a few forums I'd come across a picture for the test mule of the CTR (Civic Type R) behind it was an ILX with the same matt black paint and Jewel Eyes headlamps were applied. I've tried to find it again and haven't had any success, has anyone else seen this?? The MMC is suppose to be a significant update or maybe a total platform change considering the CTR rides on one.

Also with the TSX going away in a few months, Acura is now free to create new models for the ILX. With the 2.0T, 9AT, and lighter SH-AWD will they finally create a ILX Tpye-S? They have issues with bringing the CTR stateside so I assume with a higher profit margin in the Acura line this would be their gateway and a way to challenge the S3, CLA45, Verano Turbo, and whatever version of the upcoming 1-series BMW unleashes.
Go through your browser history with anything forum related, and spend a few minutes looking through the thread looking for the picture. I'm very interested in it as well.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Timmy18
Go through your browser history with anything forum related, and spend a few minutes looking through the thread looking for the picture. I'm very interested in it as well.
Sorry Timmy18, I tried all morning to find it but it would be ridiculous trying to go as far back as it was. It was during the introduction of all the VTEC turbo engines and since then my browser history is full of everything since I'm always on my computer. I'm going to search again later today hopefully I'll come across it.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 11:43 AM
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Now people wanting an Acura that cant afford the TLX will buy the ILX and learn it is just as damn good. The people that want something quicker and larger need to go a full class higher... not just half a class like the tsx was.
usdmJon,

I have to totally disagree with you on the differences between the ILX and TSX. People won't just jump to the TLX because it comes close to price of the ILX, which I doubt it will. If I want a compact sport sedan and the brand doesn't offer the amentities I want on it, I'll move to the next brand. Seems a lot of the people steeping into this segment are stepping down from larger cars or want to go to an upscale brand. The TSX stood in the way of the ILX succeeding in every aspect, not only being bigger but with a Euro tuned suspension, it was a better handler than the ILX. Also, it gave them no where to go with powertrains expect to totally overlap and they apparently didn't want that to happen in any case while the TSX was still available. It didn't help that the ILX's price was outrageous to say the least for it's size and packaging even compared to the, dare I say it, Verano. I know many don't like the comparison, but trust that people do compare the two no matter how we want to look it.

Customers who come to this class (premium/luxury) may want a bit of a fuel economy advantage but they still want performance. Notice that most of the cars in the segment start at 180-208hp in the base cars, the ILX is far underpowered compared to the competition. Also, by the time you equip it with any goodies you are looking at 32K because of the premium and tech package, which you can get a decently equipped A3 or Verano turbo for around the same price.

With the MMC I believe Acura will be on top again since the styling will be updated, along with new powertrain options and lighter SH-AWD system. Honestly, I believe they rushed the ILX out to have something fresh in the lineup and sales show it. The TLX prototype was show that they are serious about competing so now I expect great things to come from the brand again. If the Civic's rework is any indication it should be almost a complete overhaul.

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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 12:11 PM
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Sorry Timmy18, I tried all morning to find it but it would be ridiculous trying to go as far back as it was. It was during the introduction of all the VTEC turbo engines and since then my browser history is full of everything since I'm always on my computer. I'm going to search again later today hopefully I'll come across it.
The only thing I have found with a ILX any where near the CTR with the VTEC Turbo engines is a PMM ILX with some tinted headlights, dual exhausts and bumper/ fender changes. It doesn't have LED headlights.. in fact they look like Halogens.






Prove me wrong though!
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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I found it, I really can't tell what the lights are on it but it is almost the same color as the Type -R protoype, could be the same car you pulled up.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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Id say its the same ilx as the one above it.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 04:42 PM
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I'm also curious if they will finally give the ILX an Advanced Package and larger wheel options this time around, since this is suppose to be a "premium" car and most of it's competition offers something similar.
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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Anything new going on guys? Sitting at work bored in between meetings.
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 08:52 AM
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Exciting stuff. I bought new 6000k D2S bulbs and all season floor mats.
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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Exciting stuff. I bought new 6000k D2S bulbs and all season floor mats.
Hey Switt, how do you like your all-season mats? I'm tempted to get them but I (unwisely) bought some mats from Costco lol
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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I just ordered them yesterday, so I don't have really an opinion yet. I will share once they are delivered.

Today I bought a new MIG welder, have a few projects I wanted to finish up that I didn't want to use the TIG welder for. Should be fun.
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 08:13 PM
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Hey Switt, how do you like your all-season mats? I'm tempted to get them but I (unwisely) bought some mats from Costco lol
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I just ordered them yesterday, so I don't have really an opinion yet. I will share once they are delivered.
FWIW, I have the all-season floor mats in mine; you can see the driver's side mat in the background:



Overall, the mats are fine and worth the investment. The front mats fit the floorwells perfectly, but I'm a bit surprised that the (one-piece) rear mat still has a slight bow to it, even after being installed for over two months now. Not too troubling, of course.

Also, the mats are surprisingly thin - not enough to feel particularly susceptible to tearing, but they are quite a bit thinner than the OEM (Ford) all-weather rubber mats I had in my old Escape.

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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 08:18 PM
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My concern with the TLX is that it may take people away from the ILX. This happened with the TSX / TL....
My friend that works at acura told me they are dropping the TL off the line this year and that the TLX is the replacement.



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Anything new going on guys? Sitting at work bored in between meetings.
got dual exhaust on my ilx ?
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 08:52 PM
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Now to paint the rear diffuser section .

We should make a Dual Exhaust Tag for profiles.. I believe I be #1, and you be #2.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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im making a custom rear diffuser at the moment along with a front splitter thats off at powdercoating for my ilx haha. Also going for the burnt titanium tips !

And im fine with that lol, a dual exhaust club.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 08:59 PM
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Did you press the spare tire wheel out of the way or aim to run the piping under it?
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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nope ! and my piping is only 3 pieces lol.
i didnt have to push into the spare tire or cut my frame, etc. i just simply ran it as far out as i could. still gotta move it up a little higher.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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When I ran mine originally I was worried about the pipe being visible from the rear, so I pressed the spare tire up about 1/2" so the pipe had room to hug the bumper.

Which Sides to you put on the car?
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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oh really? you cant even see mine lol.
do you mean which size? or..... i believe they are like 2 1/2 or something. the piping is 2 1/2 and the tips are 2 1/2 or 2 3/4
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