wife issues
#121
Originally Posted by fdl
While I still havent read through entire thread, and while I think both parties may be a few pennies short of a nickle, i've got to stick with siding with water on this one. Who they hell runs away and takes the kid over one silly fight. Come on.
If shes a crazy bitch you need to accomodate this to an extent. She needs to get back on her meds, and you cant expect her to act normal until she does.
And about the jewelry being a non issue.
#123
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
I used that word in a sentence the other day with a couple friends and they just looked at me funny. I forget sometimes that we have our own little language and references on here.
#128
Originally Posted by CKcentral
I think M TYPE X NEEDS his meds and forgot them.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio/1935-re-ohio-2.html
NOTE: The city-data site DOES NOT have any data on per-capita wife jewelry collections. But, if they did, it would be right up there with unemployment statistics and aggrevated assaults ... and tractor ownership rates!
'More bling: more blight'
... not that Water-S really lives in a 'city.'
It's more like a country road with "hot sluts" !!
I feel bad for beating on Ohio when it's down.
^^ should have been in red text!
Last edited by M TYPE X; 04-26-2006 at 10:56 PM.
#129
Originally Posted by F900
Water -
Only think I can say at this stage is you need to take control of the whole situation, forget about the mother in law...
Seems to me you miss your daugther more than you wife, based on what you have said again seems like your wife don't seem to be mentally 100% all there, and at the end of the day its only hurting you...
Like Sarlacc said, get her on her meds, and get to some couples conseling...If she don't personally i'd start looking at Divorce... Why go thru you life like this, especially @ 24, you should be having fun.
Its clear your doing your part, you wife can't be bothered......
Only think I can say at this stage is you need to take control of the whole situation, forget about the mother in law...
Seems to me you miss your daugther more than you wife, based on what you have said again seems like your wife don't seem to be mentally 100% all there, and at the end of the day its only hurting you...
Like Sarlacc said, get her on her meds, and get to some couples conseling...If she don't personally i'd start looking at Divorce... Why go thru you life like this, especially @ 24, you should be having fun.
Its clear your doing your part, you wife can't be bothered......
A bipolar who is non-compliant is no long-term solution to being a wife and a mom. Untreated bipolarity is extremely risky, it creates a permanent state of instability in the household, and in its extremes, can result in a depression of suicidal proportions and/or a manic stage that can rack up more credit card debt than Dubya running a war. Bi-polars, whilst not on meds, are entirely egocentric, self-focused and self-absorbed, unaware of the chaos they create, and unrepentant when their behavior is presented to them. THere is really no room for negotiation with this condition.
The deal needs to be very straightforward; she is either medically compliant and stays that way, or you walk, and you walk taking the kid for the kid's sake. No inbetween ground, no vacillation, no strum un drang with the inlaws, who sound like a dysfunctional basket case of crazed goodies, just the ultimatum with a very good lawyer in tow. Then, given that she probably will not choose medical compliance, deliver on the ultimatum and walk. Carefully presented, her untreated mental illness makes her an unfit mother. Period.
#130
Originally Posted by Water-S
update for Tues: She's living down at her mom's. She's suppose to call later and tell me what exactly going on. She left me a note while I was at work in the house claiming she changed her address to her mom's address.(ouch) She took the keys(to my Accord,Odyssey and house) off her keyring and put the table. Before I was saving and paying on her student loans from her undergrad to become a teacher which I didn't mind doing because she wasn't "going nuts" now she "nuts." I'm going to say "hey it's your issue." it's about 25-30 grand I think. I got a 00 Odyseey I think I'm gonna give myself a treat. I bought that Odyseey from my parents when they bought their 05(new body style). well I think I'm gonna sell the 00 and buy their 05.
In the current legal environment, a carefully presented case for unfitness of the mom will lead to your obtaining custody. You need an attorney who understands he information and is fully willing to clobber her in court with it.
#131
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Originally Posted by ric
Right on target.
A bipolar who is non-compliant is no long-term solution to being a wife and a mom. Untreated bipolarity is extremely risky, it creates a permanent state of instability in the household, and in its extremes, can result in a depression of suicidal proportions and/or a manic stage that can rack up more credit card debt than Dubya running a war. Bi-polars, whilst not on meds, are entirely egocentric, self-focused and self-absorbed, unaware of the chaos they create, and unrepentant when their behavior is presented to them. THere is really no room for negotiation with this condition.
The deal needs to be very straightforward; she is either medically compliant and stays that way, or you walk, and you walk taking the kid for the kid's sake. No inbetween ground, no vacillation, no strum un drang with the inlaws, who sound like a dysfunctional basket case of crazed goodies, just the ultimatum with a very good lawyer in tow. Then, given that she probably will not choose medical compliance, deliver on the ultimatum and walk. Carefully presented, her untreated mental illness makes her an unfit mother. Period.
A bipolar who is non-compliant is no long-term solution to being a wife and a mom. Untreated bipolarity is extremely risky, it creates a permanent state of instability in the household, and in its extremes, can result in a depression of suicidal proportions and/or a manic stage that can rack up more credit card debt than Dubya running a war. Bi-polars, whilst not on meds, are entirely egocentric, self-focused and self-absorbed, unaware of the chaos they create, and unrepentant when their behavior is presented to them. THere is really no room for negotiation with this condition.
The deal needs to be very straightforward; she is either medically compliant and stays that way, or you walk, and you walk taking the kid for the kid's sake. No inbetween ground, no vacillation, no strum un drang with the inlaws, who sound like a dysfunctional basket case of crazed goodies, just the ultimatum with a very good lawyer in tow. Then, given that she probably will not choose medical compliance, deliver on the ultimatum and walk. Carefully presented, her untreated mental illness makes her an unfit mother. Period.
ric, great post.
Unfortunately water-s lost you at "right on target"
#132
Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
ric, great post.
Unfortunately water-s lost you at "right on target"
Unfortunately water-s lost you at "right on target"
I did avoid this thread for a very long time, but I was sucked in, with the power of Water-s's stream of consciousness thinking. It is a marvel to behold.
#133
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Originally Posted by ric
Right on target.
A bipolar who is non-compliant is no long-term solution to being a wife and a mom. Untreated bipolarity is extremely risky, it creates a permanent state of instability in the household, and in its extremes, can result in a depression of suicidal proportions and/or a manic stage that can rack up more credit card debt than Dubya running a war. Bi-polars, whilst not on meds, are entirely egocentric, self-focused and self-absorbed, unaware of the chaos they create, and unrepentant when their behavior is presented to them. THere is really no room for negotiation with this condition.
The deal needs to be very straightforward; she is either medically compliant and stays that way, or you walk, and you walk taking the kid for the kid's sake. No inbetween ground, no vacillation, no strum un drang with the inlaws, who sound like a dysfunctional basket case of crazed goodies, just the ultimatum with a very good lawyer in tow. Then, given that she probably will not choose medical compliance, deliver on the ultimatum and walk. Carefully presented, her untreated mental illness makes her an unfit mother. Period.
A bipolar who is non-compliant is no long-term solution to being a wife and a mom. Untreated bipolarity is extremely risky, it creates a permanent state of instability in the household, and in its extremes, can result in a depression of suicidal proportions and/or a manic stage that can rack up more credit card debt than Dubya running a war. Bi-polars, whilst not on meds, are entirely egocentric, self-focused and self-absorbed, unaware of the chaos they create, and unrepentant when their behavior is presented to them. THere is really no room for negotiation with this condition.
The deal needs to be very straightforward; she is either medically compliant and stays that way, or you walk, and you walk taking the kid for the kid's sake. No inbetween ground, no vacillation, no strum un drang with the inlaws, who sound like a dysfunctional basket case of crazed goodies, just the ultimatum with a very good lawyer in tow. Then, given that she probably will not choose medical compliance, deliver on the ultimatum and walk. Carefully presented, her untreated mental illness makes her an unfit mother. Period.
Cliff notes:
Unless your wife is going to take her meds every day for the rest of her life, pack up your shit, grab the kid and go.
#136
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From: Anna,OH(home of the honda/acura motors)
i talked with her last night at work during my lunch break on my cell phone. she said "she will go with me ot marriage couselling this Saturday." plus she brings Sierra home to me this weekend. which I'm really excited about. She's dirt poor. she has like 10 bucks in her checking account. she's crying to me she doesn't have any money. I'm not giving her any money. The thing is I've been working 50 hours a week trying to take care of her and Sierra and now she moved out I'm not giving her cash.
she claims I'm being "unfair." I said " move back home if you #1. take your meds #2. do what's expected of you. then you won't have to raise hell about money."
she kept on claiming I make double what she does as a "first year teacher." that I should pay for her gas in her car and all this other shit. I'm like you're the one that moved out. So either deal with it or don't do it.
She's suppose to call Friday early because Friday at work sucks because we have a ISO audit plus Inventory.
she claims I'm being "unfair." I said " move back home if you #1. take your meds #2. do what's expected of you. then you won't have to raise hell about money."
she kept on claiming I make double what she does as a "first year teacher." that I should pay for her gas in her car and all this other shit. I'm like you're the one that moved out. So either deal with it or don't do it.
She's suppose to call Friday early because Friday at work sucks because we have a ISO audit plus Inventory.
#137
She forgot to read independent woman rule #1: Do not depend on your man for money.
No offense to you, Water-S, but if she was financially stable she could continue doing what "she thought was right." Luckily for the kid, she does not have that ability.
Sorry. Her complaining about not having money struck a cord with me.
No offense to you, Water-S, but if she was financially stable she could continue doing what "she thought was right." Luckily for the kid, she does not have that ability.
Sorry. Her complaining about not having money struck a cord with me.
#139
Originally Posted by SakiGT
She forgot to read independent woman rule #1: Do not depend on your man for money.
No offense to you, Water-S, but if she was financially stable she could continue doing what "she thought was right." Luckily for the kid, she does not have that ability...
No offense to you, Water-S, but if she was financially stable she could continue doing what "she thought was right." Luckily for the kid, she does not have that ability...
#140
Originally Posted by SakiGT
She forgot to read independent woman rule #1: Do not depend on your man for money.
No offense to you, Water-S, but if she was financially stable she could continue doing what "she thought was right." Luckily for the kid, she does not have that ability.
Sorry. Her complaining about not having money struck a cord with me.
No offense to you, Water-S, but if she was financially stable she could continue doing what "she thought was right." Luckily for the kid, she does not have that ability.
Sorry. Her complaining about not having money struck a cord with me.
#143
Originally Posted by zeroday
independant woman rule #2: independant women almost invariably end up as old maids with only cats to talk to.
Look. Im not saying you cant fall in love, but I think relying on anyone for all of your needs whether it be emotionally, physically, or monetarily (did I spell that right?) isnt a good idea. They may throw it back at you at a later date...as exampled in this thread, actually.
#144
Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
Actually Water-S' predicament sounds like a typical country music song: She took his money, took his kid, and left him with nothing but a 6 year old Honda Odyssey and a dirty pile of dishes.
#145
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From: Anna,OH(home of the honda/acura motors)
Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
Actually Water-S' predicament sounds like a typical country music song: She took his money, took his kid, and left him with nothing but a 6 year old Honda Odyssey and a dirty pile of dishes.
#147
She's a fucking teacher too!?!?! WTF!?!! I will never move to Ohio now....
The only thing you should do is buy stuff for the baby and drop it off at her mom's house...diapers, food, formula, some clothes, toys...etc.
Or you can just make the case that she is mentally unstable and unable to support herself financially much less a child.
Marriage counseling only works if both people want to make it work. She doesnt want to take her meds, which might solve a lot of your problems.....ie, she is not taking the first step to resolve the problem and marriage counseling aint gonna do shit.
The only thing you should do is buy stuff for the baby and drop it off at her mom's house...diapers, food, formula, some clothes, toys...etc.
Or you can just make the case that she is mentally unstable and unable to support herself financially much less a child.
Marriage counseling only works if both people want to make it work. She doesnt want to take her meds, which might solve a lot of your problems.....ie, she is not taking the first step to resolve the problem and marriage counseling aint gonna do shit.
#149
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From: Anna,OH(home of the honda/acura motors)
Originally Posted by moomaster_99
She's a fucking teacher too!?!?! WTF!?!! I will never move to Ohio now....
The only thing you should do is buy stuff for the baby and drop it off at her mom's house...diapers, food, formula, some clothes, toys...etc.
Or you can just make the case that she is mentally unstable and unable to support herself financially much less a child.
Marriage counseling only works if both people want to make it work. She doesnt want to take her meds, which might solve a lot of your problems.....ie, she is not taking the first step to resolve the problem and marriage counseling aint gonna do shit.
The only thing you should do is buy stuff for the baby and drop it off at her mom's house...diapers, food, formula, some clothes, toys...etc.
Or you can just make the case that she is mentally unstable and unable to support herself financially much less a child.
Marriage counseling only works if both people want to make it work. She doesnt want to take her meds, which might solve a lot of your problems.....ie, she is not taking the first step to resolve the problem and marriage counseling aint gonna do shit.
#151
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From: Anna,OH(home of the honda/acura motors)
Originally Posted by moomaster_99
This is why the American educational system is the worst.
she went to Otterbein College.(it's in Westerville,Oh) suburb of Columbus. it's a nice college just expensive as hell. it was like 23 or 25 grand a year.
#152
Originally Posted by Water-S
she said that she went to one of the best colleges for early childhood education.
she went to Otterbein College.(it's in Westerville,Oh) suburb of Columbus. it's a nice college just expensive as hell. it was like 23 or 25 grand a year.
she went to Otterbein College.(it's in Westerville,Oh) suburb of Columbus. it's a nice college just expensive as hell. it was like 23 or 25 grand a year.
#154
So her brief fling of independence has scared the shit out of her. She will be compliant (maybe) and sounds as if she is going to see a marriage counselor only to appease you.
I'd still: separate your finances from hers
Stop buying her bling and invest in an attorney
MONITOR her medical compliance.
This should be stiffer than "three times/you're out". This is a one-shot, and then it's curtains. Last thing you want is a kid growing up in a household filled with angst about whether mommy is here/there/grandma/nuthouse.
I'd still: separate your finances from hers
Stop buying her bling and invest in an attorney
MONITOR her medical compliance.
This should be stiffer than "three times/you're out". This is a one-shot, and then it's curtains. Last thing you want is a kid growing up in a household filled with angst about whether mommy is here/there/grandma/nuthouse.
#158
Originally Posted by SakiGT
Cats > Annoying man (redundant, I know) with ED.
Look. Im not saying you cant fall in love, but I think relying on anyone for all of your needs whether it be emotionally, physically, or monetarily (did I spell that right?) isnt a good idea. They may throw it back at you at a later date...as exampled in this thread, actually.
Look. Im not saying you cant fall in love, but I think relying on anyone for all of your needs whether it be emotionally, physically, or monetarily (did I spell that right?) isnt a good idea. They may throw it back at you at a later date...as exampled in this thread, actually.
It sounds like Water's wife just wants a sugar daddy to support her even when she's not treating her bipolar disorder. Water, you need to be unequivocal about this situation: if she's not going to treat her disorder, you've got to take your daughter and leave. Not only will her untreated bipolarity adversly affect your daughter, but you as well. And as Ric said, you can't "fix" someone who's bipolar; they need to want treatment, and more than that recognize the importance of treatment to ensure their own stability and the stability of the family.