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Ok guys, I really need your advice on this one, and I need it by tomorrow by 6pm.
Why the rush? well let me explain it to you...
I work in an office and usually work late hours to get my work done, meaning I stay up until 8 or 9 pm. Anyways, there's this new cleaning lady that started working at our office and she only starts working around 7pm. She basically doesn't work for our company, but a cleaning company that my company hired.
Anyways, she's kinda cute and if I would have to guess, then I'd say she's probably a year maybe 2 years older than me.
I really want to become friends with her but I've never really said anything to her besides a very soft "Hi". The thing is, I dont know how to start a conversation with her, cause she seems to be the quiet type, but maybe thats just around the people she doesn't know...
Just today as I was cleaning up my desk, I overheard a conversation between her and one of my supervisiors saying that tomorrow (friday) is going to be her last day, and that she'd really like to work at our office after she's done with this cleaning job.
So tomorrow might be the last time I get a chance to say something to her, or even ask her out if things go well, but I need your help with that. Like I said before, I dont know how to start up a conversation with her, I can't just stop her and say "hey, your hair is beautiful today" or "what do you do during your free time?"
So could you guys please give me some advice on how to start up a conversation with her, and I need it by no later than 6pm tomorrow, thanks guys
Why the rush? well let me explain it to you...
I work in an office and usually work late hours to get my work done, meaning I stay up until 8 or 9 pm. Anyways, there's this new cleaning lady that started working at our office and she only starts working around 7pm. She basically doesn't work for our company, but a cleaning company that my company hired.
Anyways, she's kinda cute and if I would have to guess, then I'd say she's probably a year maybe 2 years older than me.
I really want to become friends with her but I've never really said anything to her besides a very soft "Hi". The thing is, I dont know how to start a conversation with her, cause she seems to be the quiet type, but maybe thats just around the people she doesn't know...
Just today as I was cleaning up my desk, I overheard a conversation between her and one of my supervisiors saying that tomorrow (friday) is going to be her last day, and that she'd really like to work at our office after she's done with this cleaning job.
So tomorrow might be the last time I get a chance to say something to her, or even ask her out if things go well, but I need your help with that. Like I said before, I dont know how to start up a conversation with her, I can't just stop her and say "hey, your hair is beautiful today" or "what do you do during your free time?"
So could you guys please give me some advice on how to start up a conversation with her, and I need it by no later than 6pm tomorrow, thanks guys
To start the conversation just say the following...
"You like working this late?"
Even though she says yes or no... your answer will automatically be...
"It's because I always see you around this time..."
She'll then go on about how its her last day and you'll feel sorry for her and then you can say...
"Well, since its your last day, would you like to go out for a drink or coffee?"
On a lighter note... you can just say "Since you've cleaned for me for so long can I clean out your pipes?"
"You like working this late?"
Even though she says yes or no... your answer will automatically be...
"It's because I always see you around this time..."
She'll then go on about how its her last day and you'll feel sorry for her and then you can say...
"Well, since its your last day, would you like to go out for a drink or coffee?"
On a lighter note... you can just say "Since you've cleaned for me for so long can I clean out your pipes?"

This is extremely strange, I hope you know.
YOU: I noticed your firm grip on the vacuum. It really arouses my genitals.
HER: Well I've been doing it since I was 14, I've developed great technique.
YOU: Oh yes, I can tell. You are very good at cleaning... I have a very dirty penis, if you know what I mean
HER:
I have chlamydia, so it's no problem.YOU: I have a Hoover. I will push and pull that all over your face until the light burns out.
HER: I'm sorry, I don't speak a word of English.
YOU: Neither do I
HER: This is extremely strange, I hope you know.
YOU:

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Originally Posted by shnee420

This is extremely strange, I hope you know.
YOU: I noticed your firm grip on the vacuum. It really arouses my genitals.
HER: Well I've been doing it since I was 14, I've developed great technique.
YOU: Oh yes, I can tell. You are very good at cleaning... I have a very dirty penis, if you know what I mean
HER:
I have chlamydia, so it's no problem.YOU: I have a Hoover. I will push and pull that all over your face until the light burns out.
HER: I'm sorry, I don't speak a word of English.
YOU: Neither do I
HER: This is extremely strange, I hope you know.
YOU:

but anyways, I'm gonna stick with what spooky3ce said, so wish me luck
Don't ask what Spooky said. Just be yourself. Just talk to her. But if you really can't, try this:
Just go up to her, and ask her how she is doing. Tell her that you've noticed her around and that she was always quiet and kept to herself. Tell her that you also overheard the supervisor say she wouldn't be working there anymore. Tell her that you don't want her to feel weird or uncomfortable, but that you thought her going was unfortunate because you would really like to see her again. Nothing too imposing at first, bite to eat, coffeehouse, whatever she felt comfortable with. Now, you can gauge whether you should really pursue this beyond her initial reaction or vibe you get from her. You may have to insist a little, because sometimes people that clean an office feel uncomfortable with socializing with someone that actually works there. So she needs to feel you out. Just be yourself and talk about things naturally. If the woman senses that you are genuine in your approach, that you actually like her and are not just trying to lay the clean-up lady...you may succeed. If you don't, it doesn't mean she doesn't like you, just that she is uncomfortable or you may not be her type. Or she has a man.
But honestly...this way is best:
I was going to say to just go up to her and start talking about whatever. Conversation comes natural to me, but it may not to you if you are nervous. So I said something somewhat scripted above. But I really think you should just be yourself and just strike up a conversation with her. It will make her feel more relaxed around you and open up if she likes you. If she seems on the edge, just give her your number, tell her to take her time, no pressure, you just really would like to take her out for some laughs and to have a good time. Anyplace she wants, and whatever she wants to do. Whatever would make her smile. I'm telling you, this is not bullshit, women like confidence and an honest approach. If you come off with a bullshitting line or look on your face that says I want to fuck you...you are wasting your time unless she is a skeezer! Just be you, and you will be fine. Sometimes even your shyness may be a turn on. Not often, but at least that looks more genuine than the "you know I wanna fuck you" face! Hahahahaaha!
Good luck man!
Just go up to her, and ask her how she is doing. Tell her that you've noticed her around and that she was always quiet and kept to herself. Tell her that you also overheard the supervisor say she wouldn't be working there anymore. Tell her that you don't want her to feel weird or uncomfortable, but that you thought her going was unfortunate because you would really like to see her again. Nothing too imposing at first, bite to eat, coffeehouse, whatever she felt comfortable with. Now, you can gauge whether you should really pursue this beyond her initial reaction or vibe you get from her. You may have to insist a little, because sometimes people that clean an office feel uncomfortable with socializing with someone that actually works there. So she needs to feel you out. Just be yourself and talk about things naturally. If the woman senses that you are genuine in your approach, that you actually like her and are not just trying to lay the clean-up lady...you may succeed. If you don't, it doesn't mean she doesn't like you, just that she is uncomfortable or you may not be her type. Or she has a man.
But honestly...this way is best:
I was going to say to just go up to her and start talking about whatever. Conversation comes natural to me, but it may not to you if you are nervous. So I said something somewhat scripted above. But I really think you should just be yourself and just strike up a conversation with her. It will make her feel more relaxed around you and open up if she likes you. If she seems on the edge, just give her your number, tell her to take her time, no pressure, you just really would like to take her out for some laughs and to have a good time. Anyplace she wants, and whatever she wants to do. Whatever would make her smile. I'm telling you, this is not bullshit, women like confidence and an honest approach. If you come off with a bullshitting line or look on your face that says I want to fuck you...you are wasting your time unless she is a skeezer! Just be you, and you will be fine. Sometimes even your shyness may be a turn on. Not often, but at least that looks more genuine than the "you know I wanna fuck you" face! Hahahahaaha!
Good luck man!
Last edited by darksom1; Nov 16, 2007 at 12:23 AM.
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
Just ask her out. What do you have to lose? If she says no, the you don't have to see her again. If she says yes, then mission accomplished.
Be yourself.
Be yourself.

Just ask. Or you'll be left wondering what could have been.
Originally Posted by AcuraKidd
I'm gonna take it that you're joking and dont really expect me to say that, but if you aren't joking, then let me tell you that I'm the type of person that will never be able to pull that off
If you have any of your pool pics on your work computer, definitely print one out and give it to her as a small present.
there are some websites that are dedicated to getting cleaning ladies...
they also show how to
your secretary, teacher, friends hot mom, etc...
but really, just be yourself and see if she wants to grab a coffee sometime...
they also show how to
your secretary, teacher, friends hot mom, etc...but really, just be yourself and see if she wants to grab a coffee sometime...
Sounds like you are making it way harder than it has to be. Ideally, you should have been talking to her all this time, starting off with just passing gestures and gradually leading up to small conversation. That way she would have probably made it a point to tell you she was leaving when she saw you, and then you could have easily threw in the offer to take her to lunch one day or something. I guess that is hindsight, anyway since you only have one day just go up to her and say you heard she is leaving and blah blah blah, and in the end try to hook up some sort of date.
Darksom, is that your ride in your av? Looks pretty slick, have you posted pics on the TL board(I'm sure you have), if so post a few links if you can.
Darksom, is that your ride in your av? Looks pretty slick, have you posted pics on the TL board(I'm sure you have), if so post a few links if you can.
Originally Posted by amisconception
"Be yourself" is probably the worst advice anyone can ever give. Offers zero insight. Very cliche and useless.
Originally Posted by amisconception
"Be yourself" is probably the worst advice anyone can ever give. Offers zero insight. Very cliche and useless.
To tell you the truth... just have her talk about herself as much as possible... for some reason you'll always get the "I like talking to you." at the end... Make sure you listen and keep mental notes at all times... because these mental notes are your ammo in future conversations... especially if you get to see her again later or you do get accepted to go out for that drink or coffee...
thats my weakness... when i talk to people... for some reason I forget a lot of details that could help me keep a conversation going... so it gets quite and awkward...
Keep asking questions...
Ask her about her previous job...
Ask her if she plans to stay at this job... (Will lead to my first post)
Ask her about where's she from... Tell her where you are from first...
Originally Posted by Rock2534
Ha, that is true sometimes, in fact that is exactly the reason why lots of guys can't get a girl, cuz their normal selves are assholes!
To the OP:
The best thing to do, in this situation, is go balls out - since you have very little experience - you can use this situation as a powerful learning experience.
Go for the kill and if/when you get rejected you can laugh it off. Then, starting tomorrow, talk to 100 times more girls than you currently are so that when you actually do find a girl that you really like you don't ruin it by becoming paralyzed with fear.
Grab your balls and force yourself talk to her like a normal person. For all you know her snatch could smell like rotten risotto. So don't freak out so much you don't know anything about this girl. If you do get really nervous, start sweating, voice cracks, etc. those are just signs that you need a lot more practice/experience with talking to girls. The only way to do that is by starting new conversations constantly. It's like any other skill - you have to practice it to stay sharp.
At this point, it doesn't really matter what you say. As long as you don't say something really, really stupid.
You have a lot of work ahead of you, though, if you want to be successful in this part of your life.
Good luck.
walk up to her and address the issue of you overhearing that itll be her last day..and just let it flow from there.
even i can do that and i am handicapped when it comes to talking to the ladies
even i can do that and i am handicapped when it comes to talking to the ladies
Originally Posted by Rock2534
Darksom, is that your ride in your av? Looks pretty slick, have you posted pics on the TL board(I'm sure you have), if so post a few links if you can.
Amis: While it may be true that some guys are lame, all guys are not. And if you want to get next to the woman, for real, not just for a one night stand...you have no choice but to be yourself, or be alone. Dude sounds like he likes her for more than just conversation. How is being yourself baseless or tells you nothing (notice I didn't use quotations)? If someone needs direction on HOW to be yourself...then they need therapy - not companionship. Believe that! Being myself has gotten me everything I desired from a woman. Sometimes drama (heh heh). But I only know how to be me, and me is hella better than any-fucking-body else I can think of right now, good or bad! LOL...so me it is.
What was that Shakesperean play, Cyranno DeBergerac or something like that? That is why you should be yourself. No one has to tell you how to be yourself. You just do it. If I tell dude what to say, right, then he says it. But what if she says something totally out in left field from the planned dialogue in response? He has no clue how to follow-up on it. Happens all the time. In the military, I used to write letters for guys for their lady back home. True story. But I always told them when you get home, and you are you, that shit is going to be wack! It's simple. Fuck it...do you!
Originally Posted by darksom1
Amis: While it may be true that some guys are lame, all guys are not. And if you want to get next to the woman, for real, not just for a one night stand...you have no choice but to be yourself, or be alone. Dude sounds like he likes her for more than just conversation. How is being yourself baseless or tells you nothing (notice I didn't use quotations)? If someone needs direction on HOW to be yourself...then they need therapy - not companionship. Believe that! Being myself has gotten me everything I desired from a woman. Sometimes drama (heh heh). But I only know how to be me, and me is hella better than any-fucking-body else I can think of right now, good or bad! LOL...so me it is. 

The problem with "just be yourself" is that it also doesn't include the fact that you should also WORK to improve yourself; i.e. your life. That's not to say you should compromise your beliefs or values - that's not what I've said at all. I'm not saying you should lie to women (although that can be useful if you're just trying to have sex with a girl). Unless you have no standards, any remotely worthwhile girl will have a set of standards in the opposite sex. Don't fool yourself into believe she won't.
Confidence, when it comes to women, is an internal understanding that you're the prize worthy of whatever girl fits your criteria - not the other way around. I'm almost positive the OP is missing this real confidence.
Unfortunately "just be yourself" is not good enough advice simply because guys with "women troubles" tend to use it as an excuse to continue to do more of the same. That lack of experience is what got them into this situation in the first place.
Growth, so that these problems don't recur, so that you get the girl you REALLY want instead of compromising because you don't think you can do better, is ultimately a matter of really thinking you deserve better and a willingness to work for it.
What was that Shakesperean play, Cyranno DeBergerac or something like that? That is why you should be yourself. No one has to tell you how to be yourself. You just do it. If I tell dude what to say, right, then he says it. But what if she says something totally out in left field from the planned dialogue in response? He has no clue how to follow-up on it. Happens all the time. In the military, I used to write letters for guys for their lady back home. True story. But I always told them when you get home, and you are you, that shit is going to be wack! It's simple. Fuck it...do you!
The long-term solution to this problem, that many guys share btw, is to recognize, develop and cultivate a strong sense of self-worth.
You might not have that same fear darksom1, but he probably does.
Originally Posted by amisconception
The problem with "just be yourself" is that it also doesn't include the fact that you should also WORK to improve yourself; i.e. your life. That's not to say you should compromise your beliefs or values - that's not what I've said at all. I'm not saying you should lie to women (although that can be useful if you're just trying to have sex with a girl). Unless you have no standards, any remotely worthwhile girl will have a set of standards in the opposite sex. Don't fool yourself into believe she won't.
Confidence, when it comes to women, is an internal understanding that you're the prize worthy of whatever girl fits your criteria - not the other way around. I'm almost positive the OP is missing this real confidence.
Unfortunately "just be yourself" is not good enough advice simply because guys with "women troubles" tend to use it as an excuse to continue to do more of the same. That lack of experience is what got them into this situation in the first place.
Growth, so that these problems don't recur, so that you get the girl you REALLY want instead of compromising because you don't think you can do better, is ultimately a matter of really thinking you deserve better and a willingness to work for it.
He doesn't lack something to say because he's an idiot with no thoughts in his brain. He lacks something to say because of his fear... His fear of "messing it up" or saying the "right thing". That confusion, that attitude, is the problem. Only recommending to "be yourself" does not attack the root of the problem.
The long-term solution to this problem, that many guys share btw, is to recognize, develop and cultivate a strong sense of self-worth.
You might not have that same fear darksom1, but he probably does.
Confidence, when it comes to women, is an internal understanding that you're the prize worthy of whatever girl fits your criteria - not the other way around. I'm almost positive the OP is missing this real confidence.
Unfortunately "just be yourself" is not good enough advice simply because guys with "women troubles" tend to use it as an excuse to continue to do more of the same. That lack of experience is what got them into this situation in the first place.
Growth, so that these problems don't recur, so that you get the girl you REALLY want instead of compromising because you don't think you can do better, is ultimately a matter of really thinking you deserve better and a willingness to work for it.
He doesn't lack something to say because he's an idiot with no thoughts in his brain. He lacks something to say because of his fear... His fear of "messing it up" or saying the "right thing". That confusion, that attitude, is the problem. Only recommending to "be yourself" does not attack the root of the problem.
The long-term solution to this problem, that many guys share btw, is to recognize, develop and cultivate a strong sense of self-worth.
You might not have that same fear darksom1, but he probably does.
Originally Posted by darksom1
Ok, in that depth I feel ya on it. Maybe I over-simplified it. Either way, he has a couple of hours to get it together. Think he gonna make it? Sounds about 60/40 he doesn't if he don't step his game up!
Originally Posted by amisconception
I think he should at least talk her up for a minute, maybe 2, and say "hey I have to get back to work but write down your number and I'll call you some time". He can assume the sale and hand her a pen and paper to write down her number.
just chit-chat for a few minutes, small talk is cool to break the ice. she's gonna be busy doing her cleaning work, maybe homeboy could walk past her on the way to picking up a fax or hitting the water cooler so his intent is less conspicuous. then he can make like he has to get back to work and secure her digits in the process. just be cool, calm, and collected
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alright guys, here's an update:
I was working on a diferent floor today, and she came around earlier, around 6pm. I was on the 4th floor and was working with lots of people, and didn't want to talk to her infront of all of them, cause that would make me uncomfortable.
My desk is on the 3rd floor, and I knew that she'd be down there cleaning by 6:30, so I tried to finish up my work, and come 7pm I tried to "track her down", but she was nowhere to be found. I kept going from floor to floor pretending like I'm actually doing something, but in reality looking for her.
I finally gave up by 7:30, and got into the elevator, and what do ya know, she was in it.
Here's what I said: "so....I hear today is your last day here...", and she replied "where did you here THAT?" and I was like "I hear alot of things around here..." she kinda laughed a little, and then I siad "why? its not true?" and she said, "no, its true, today is my last day"
Then as we both got off the elevator together, I said to her "its so unfortunate to see you go" on a sarcastic manner I guess, she gave me a little smirk and moved on.
I still got another hour before I leave work, so I wanna go ahead and see if she has any plans later on, and maybe ask her out for coffee or a drink, but damm...its soo hard to track her down in this building, and even harder to get her attention while talking since she's always on the move.
I was working on a diferent floor today, and she came around earlier, around 6pm. I was on the 4th floor and was working with lots of people, and didn't want to talk to her infront of all of them, cause that would make me uncomfortable.
My desk is on the 3rd floor, and I knew that she'd be down there cleaning by 6:30, so I tried to finish up my work, and come 7pm I tried to "track her down", but she was nowhere to be found. I kept going from floor to floor pretending like I'm actually doing something, but in reality looking for her.
I finally gave up by 7:30, and got into the elevator, and what do ya know, she was in it.
Here's what I said: "so....I hear today is your last day here...", and she replied "where did you here THAT?" and I was like "I hear alot of things around here..." she kinda laughed a little, and then I siad "why? its not true?" and she said, "no, its true, today is my last day"
Then as we both got off the elevator together, I said to her "its so unfortunate to see you go" on a sarcastic manner I guess, she gave me a little smirk and moved on.
I still got another hour before I leave work, so I wanna go ahead and see if she has any plans later on, and maybe ask her out for coffee or a drink, but damm...its soo hard to track her down in this building, and even harder to get her attention while talking since she's always on the move.






