BIGG problem... got a girl pregnant
09-13-2004 | 02:51 PM
#282
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Originally Posted by Always Dirty
The kid might also be the next Charles Manson....
And I realize your argument about life having already started, but if you follow it back even farther something has technically already started by the time I whip out a fresh batch of man-ranch on my girl's titties.
Has life started yet? Is there a new entity on the face of the earth or is that still 6 months off in the future? Is that a human being or is it a mess of cells that is still only a third of the way done being cooked and unable to live out in the world despite every medical advance or piece of machinery known to man?
And I realize your argument about life having already started, but if you follow it back even farther something has technically already started by the time I whip out a fresh batch of man-ranch on my girl's titties.
Has life started yet? Is there a new entity on the face of the earth or is that still 6 months off in the future? Is that a human being or is it a mess of cells that is still only a third of the way done being cooked and unable to live out in the world despite every medical advance or piece of machinery known to man?
Conception = To unite in sexual intercourse; to come together in the act
of generation.
You think that both are indistinct. I do not agree.
I will not continue to argue. Seems that most of you guys already have the idea of abortion as an option.
So if money is an issue (for the next 18 years); I will think that having a pet who requires a 2 grand surgery and I am broke; I will rather spend 200 to get a new one, based, again, on the money issue ?
09-13-2004 | 02:58 PM
#283
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You can't compare pets and future children. Completely different ballparks of responsibility.
Conception, by definition, is not a birth or an end result. It is the creation of an embryo or zygote (NOT a human - yet). Another definition of conception places the word somewhere between a concept and an idea - something that is in the beginning stages of being formed, but by no means exists in it's "production" phase so to speak.
Conception, by definition, is not a birth or an end result. It is the creation of an embryo or zygote (NOT a human - yet). Another definition of conception places the word somewhere between a concept and an idea - something that is in the beginning stages of being formed, but by no means exists in it's "production" phase so to speak.
09-13-2004 | 03:30 PM
#284
Houses Won't Depreciate?
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For sure a kid is million times more responsibillity than a pet. They will very likely live after your death and they can be even better than you.
A common pet dies < 20 years and they are usually dumb. Not rulling out there are dumb people; but brain is there to correct those issues.
Is my opinion that the child should be born and if they do not want it they should give it to someone who wants to adopt him/her.
enuff
A common pet dies < 20 years and they are usually dumb. Not rulling out there are dumb people; but brain is there to correct those issues.
Is my opinion that the child should be born and if they do not want it they should give it to someone who wants to adopt him/her.
enuff
09-17-2004 | 10:38 AM
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last update i guess:
she went through with the abortion..
thanks for all your advice and help.. i am doing my best to be there for her while she recovers and copes with our decision.
-rez
she went through with the abortion..
thanks for all your advice and help.. i am doing my best to be there for her while she recovers and copes with our decision.
-rez
09-17-2004 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rezurex
last update i guess:
she went through with the abortion..
thanks for all your advice and help.. i am doing my best to be there for her while she recovers and copes with our decision.
-rez
she went through with the abortion..
thanks for all your advice and help.. i am doing my best to be there for her while she recovers and copes with our decision.
-rez
I hope that it was the best decision for you and her and wether i agree or not, ill still be here to support your decision with the rest of us ACL people.
09-18-2004 | 08:05 PM
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rez...good luck to you and her and I hope that you both appreciate the lesson you have just learned...rick and I will continue to pray for your healing process because it could be long...holler if you need anything...take care.
09-18-2004 | 11:52 PM
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thanks guys you guys are awesome 
she's really mad at me still... i cant blame her really i know that this whole ordeal has been really tough on her. im working hard to patch things up with her...
thanks again
-rez
she's really mad at me still... i cant blame her really i know that this whole ordeal has been really tough on her. im working hard to patch things up with her...
thanks again
-rez
09-20-2004 | 12:02 AM
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Wow, is all I can say reading through this thread. Rez, I think whats important here is that you leanrned a very VERY valuable lesson. I am also glad to hear that you made a well thought out and talked over decision to look out for the best interest of, the mother, the child, and yourself.
Good luck with the recovery. So how did you hide the charge from your folks ?
Good luck with the recovery. So how did you hide the charge from your folks ?
09-21-2004 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chopper
Wow, is all I can say reading through this thread. Rez, I think whats important here is that you leanrned a very VERY valuable lesson. I am also glad to hear that you made a well thought out and talked over decision to look out for the best interest of, the mother, the child, and yourself.
Good luck with the recovery. So how did you hide the charge from your folks ?
Good luck with the recovery. So how did you hide the charge from your folks ?
best interest of the parents? yes.
09-21-2004 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SilviaGTO
I cant believe that you would willingly tell someone where they could get an abortion done up to the end of the second trimester. Not to mention that is illegal. I thought you were highly christian?If you get an abortion at all, get it done super early. look how its developed at the end of the 1st trimester and the end of the second trimester.
12 weeks of development: By this point, nearly all of the organs and structures of the fetus are formed. They will continue to grow and develop until delivery. Fingers and toes have separated and hair and nails begin to grow. The genitals begin to take on their gender characteristics. Amniotic fluid begins to accumulate as the baby's kidneys begin to produce and excrete urine. The muscles in the intestinal walls begin to practice peristalsis - contractions within the intestines that digest food.
24 weeks of development:
Your baby's growing steadily, gaining about a quarter of a pound since last week. That puts her at just over a pound. Since she's almost a foot long, that makes a pretty lean figure, but her body is filling out proportionally and she'll soon put on more baby fat. Your baby's skin is thin, translucent, and wrinkled, her brain is growing rapidly, and her taste buds are forming. Her lungs are developing "branches" of the respiratory "tree" and cells that produce surfactant, a substance that helps the air sacs inflate easily.
09-21-2004 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kumar6
never get an abortion??
what if you were raped by someone...
never say never.... wow is texas that conservative??
what if you were raped by someone...
never say never.... wow is texas that conservative??
09-22-2004 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kumar6
never get an abortion??
what if you were raped by someone...
never say never.... wow is texas that conservative??
what if you were raped by someone...
never say never.... wow is texas that conservative??
09-22-2004 | 02:10 AM
#310
holy shit...this is getting quite personal...not a good direction
btw, I'm sincerely sorry darksithgirl...nobody should be put through that kind of sick & cruel punishment...NOBODY!@!%
btw, I'm sincerely sorry darksithgirl...nobody should be put through that kind of sick & cruel punishment...NOBODY!@!%
09-22-2004 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rezurex
last update i guess:
she went through with the abortion..
thanks for all your advice and help.. i am doing my best to be there for her while she recovers and copes with our decision.
-rez
she went through with the abortion..
thanks for all your advice and help.. i am doing my best to be there for her while she recovers and copes with our decision.
-rez
09-22-2004 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSithGirl
..my role as a nurse is to give safe and current information for someone to make an informed decision....don't confuse my knowledge about the procedure with my approval....for me, I would never get an abortion, however that does not give me the right to make that choice or force that upon anyone else...
09-22-2004 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSithGirl
First of all, don't question my christianity...second of all, I don't need an anatomy lesson on babies, I am a labor and delivery nurse, third of all, in the state of texas abortions up to 24 weeks is still legal. My role as a christian is to pray for people and ask for forgiveness on their behalf..my role as a nurse is to give safe and current information for someone to make an informed decision....don't confuse my knowledge about the procedure with my approval....for me, I would never get an abortion, however that does not give me the right to make that choice or force that upon anyone else...
whatever helps you sleep at night
09-22-2004 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SilviaGTO
No, but I do think abortions after the first trimester should be.
But anyway enough of drama llama. I sent you a PM killer.
But anyway enough of drama llama. I sent you a PM killer.
09-22-2004 | 09:24 AM
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Rez, I am glad that you have been honest with yourself, her, and all of us in this very difficult time in your life...I will continue to pray for healing and understanding for all of us here and especially for both of you and your families...Ricky
John 12:47 (KJV)
And if any man hear my words and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world...
...so once again, he or she on ACL, who is without sin (or skeletons in your closet) cast the first stone...
John 12:47 (KJV)
And if any man hear my words and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world...
...so once again, he or she on ACL, who is without sin (or skeletons in your closet) cast the first stone...
some REALLY personal stuff in this thread 