00TL-P3.2

Gray > black IMO
White w blue stripes > *

SamDoe1

Agree on all counts. White/blue stripes is surprisingly hard to find and generally costs more than other colors.

00TL-P3.2

Understandably. That'd be my #1 choice, both because it looks great & for the 60s GT350 homage.

SamDoe1

There's even a "heritage" model that has that more off white color paint and blue stripes but those are big $$$

pttl

What model years are you looking at Sam?

BreezyTL

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White with blue stripes would be my vote.

00TL-P3.2

Only made MY 15-20
Facelifted in 2019
The above-mentioned Heritage was 2020 only

SamDoe1

Not any specific year but only the MY16 and MY17 are within my budget so that's where I'm looking. More so looking for the interior tech pack features. I'm ok with either seat option.

It would be mine too but they are more expensive and harder to find. I'm not going to spend a ton more money for a paint color when a cheaper one is still acceptable to me.

BreezyTL

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Not too bad of a drive for you.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...-ab15cf7b53ba/

SamDoe1

Budget is around $50k so this is too much. Also that dealership gets shit ratings and that car is WAY overpriced. Car I'm looking at is a 2016 with 17k on it with a new gen 2 engine from Ford installed under warranty 5k ago for $49k.

00TL-P3.2

Does the gen 2 engine solve the oil consumption? I read they share more parts with the GT500, to cut costs between the 2.
I recall reading that Ford said it was normal for the Voodoo to consume nearly a qt per 1k miles, or something like that.

ttribe

You'd think they could have vacuumed the damn thing before they posted 45 pictures of it on the Internet.

SamDoe1

Yeah, the gen 2 solves the oil burning thing almost entirely. The big thing to look for/ask for is how much the motor burns. If oil consumption isn't a big deal when the car has 30k on the clock, it's not likely to ever be a problem. Also, getting catch cans installed (Ford Performance makes them) helps immensely by preventing oil from getting into the combustion area in the first place. On top of that, just routinely check the oil and make sure you're good to go will keep issues at bay.

00TL-P3.2

And for a fun car, I'm sure that stuff you'd be checking more routinely anyway.

Hoping it works out for you

SamDoe1

Thanks! I'll hear back on the black car this evening.

On another note, have a line on a MY19 M2 Comp 6MT (obvs) never tuned and has M Perf exhaust...but it has 64k miles on it. Price is similar to a MY16 GT350. Thoughts?

e30cabrio

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Love the M2! Closest thing to a 2002Tii there has been. Those miles though.

SamDoe1

That's what gives me pause...and a lower asking price lol.

The guy used it as a DD and took road trips in it all the time.

oonowindoo

I personally probably would take the GT350, not a lot of things can beat the sound of a V8 at 8k RPM... But you can't go wrong with M2 either.

You will be sliding all over the places with either car. But that is what RWD is for.

00TL-P3.2

Low mileage toy, GT350
Something you'll drive a lot more often, I'd maybe lean BMW

e30cabrio

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If it will get minimal use, and the PPI is good & there are lots/full records, I'd go M2.

EDIT also vibe from the owner is hugely important, I mean if you buy a car from me, you know it has been overmaintained (is that a thing)???

SamDoe1

GT350 will definitely be a low mileage toy just because of what it is and will get parked in the winter. M2 I'd be ok driving it even in the winter time with the right tires on nice/dry days.

Owner vibe is huge. I reached out to guy with M2 so we'll see what happens. Mileage is ok as long as it's well maintained.

civicdrivr

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Yeah if the M2 PPI checks out I'd probably go with that. The Voodoo Coyote sounds fantastic...when they aren't drinking oil or eating timing chain assemblies.

00TL-P3.2

GT350 + the longest/most comprehensive ext warranty possible

SamDoe1

Car I'm looking at has the Gen 2 engine (no oil burning) and aftermarket oil gears.

I haven't heard anything about the timing chain issues though.

Guy with M2 never replied to my message so I guess that answers this question lol.

Anyway, black car is sold so the other one is now the primary.

civicdrivr

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I double checked the timing chain issue and it looks like it's 2020+.

SamDoe1

2020 was the last year for the GT350 so might be a GT500 issue? No idea.

civicdrivr

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https://mustangforums.com/articles/f...y-gt350-gt500/

BreezyTL

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I don't think they even wiped it down. It looks pretty bad, haha

SamDoe1

Ah, so more of a manufacturing defect than a systemic design flaw like the oil consumption.

I've really been trying to find cars that have already had the engine replaced with the Gen 2 version because of excess oil consumption. That said, I'm sure the problem is largely overblown anyway but can't be too safe.

rockstar143

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I like the hunt.
This is fun.
Looking foward to seeing what bad decision you choose as your poisson (French).

SamDoe1

...and the other one fell through (seller was kind of sketch and I bailed out) as well so the search continues. Looking at one local (ideal ruby red color MY17) tomorrow and another on Saturday (black MY17). Both are more expensive but may be worth it...

SamDoe1

What does this have to do with material compression and expansion?

rockstar143

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je ne sais pas!

SamDoe1

Lost another one, was supposed to buy it today but they (dealership) sold it yesterday.

00TL-P3.2

Bummer, time to start shopping Caymans.

SamDoe1

Cayman and Boxster are non-starters, they don't have a back seat.

I'd have already bought a Cayman (actually more likely a Corvette like J) if it was an option.

e30cabrio

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Sucks, before the 86 I wanted a supercharged Miata, I had an appointment with a dealer to go buy it (assuming the data presented was true) and when I got there it was gone.

M2 is out?

00TL-P3.2

Pre-snout M3?
991 911 (might break the budget). 997 too old?

SamDoe1

Guy with the only good M2 I've found never got back to me. Other M2's I've seen out there have been heavily modified with stage 2 tunes and a bunch of other shit that I'm not interested in dealing with. I don't want to take on someone else's project car.

M3 is too...normal. It's a good daily driver but an exciting weekend car it is not.

I've heavily thought about a 911 but they are just too expensive for what you get. I'd be stretching my budget to even get a good 997.1 C2S with a 6MT in good condition and with service records.

I have a line on another GT350, in STL this time. Talking to the dealership today and a friend in the area is going to check it out in person for me.

rockstar143

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Z06 will make you smile...
maybe you can just take the wife and kid out in it separately LOL.
I love the sound of those GT350, honestly...and the tech is likely WAY better.