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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 09:48 PM
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Amen. Even so, I would still love to have that.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 08:43 AM
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You guys see Olsson's RS6 Avant...?
John Olsson? The skier?

He's the one with that full carbon widebody R8 :fap:
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 11:30 AM
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Yay or nay?




Info from the designer, Bo Zolland:

Designed at the request of an Australian Volvo dealer who wanted to see what a modern 2 door V60 high performance estate would look like! This design would match up against competitors like the Audi S4. Power is from a tuned version of the V8 used in the Volvo S80. The wheel openings are enlarged by 1.5 centimeters, with the rear wheel opening moved forward for a more harmonious appearance. It also features new front and rear spoilers. This AWD car uses the largest brakes from the XC90.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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^ I like it. I think it looks bad ass
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 11:52 AM
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Shooting brake
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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Shooting brake
I wonder if we will actually see a proper shooting brake in the US any time soon.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 12:11 PM
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I sure hope so. As much as I want a wagon, I miss having a coupe. A shooting brake could solve all of my problems! Well, except for my monetary ones
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I wonder if we will actually see a proper shooting brake in the US any time soon.
You mean other than the FF?
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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You mean other than the FF?
Awwwww shiiiiiitt.

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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 12:42 PM
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You mean other than the FF?
Damn. Forgot about it. So expensive it might as well be a personal Space Shuttle.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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Damn. Forgot about it. So expensive it might as well be a personal Space Shuttle.
Indeed.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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That Volvo in #1563 may be the first shooting brake I've ever liked. That, or it is one of very, very few.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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That Volvo in #1563 may be the first shooting brake I've ever liked. That, or it is one of very, very few.
It has a predecessor ... I just wish they'd make another one.

The Volvo P1800 Shooting Brake:

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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 03:53 PM
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The rear window is massive compared to the windshield
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 04:02 PM
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The rear window is massive compared to the windshield
It is, isn't it? I just realized (I had forgotten) where the C30 rear hatch styling queue came from ...
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 04:05 PM
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Damn it, Dave!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-Other-Sport-Wagon-1973-Volvo-P1800-ES-Wagon-Rare-Automatic-Factory-A-C-Beautifully-Restored-/400683901243?forcerrptr=true&hash=item5d4a9f213b&item=400683901243&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 04:14 PM
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I knew the P1800s were starting to become desirable but $22K is more than I thought. That car does look really clean though.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 05:12 PM
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I'm sorry to say this in a wagon thread, but as much as I love that P1800, I'm not sure I'd pay $22k for one. For that money, I'd buy an AP2 S2000.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
I'm sorry to say this in a wagon thread, but as much as I love that P1800, I'm not sure I'd pay $22k for one. For that money, I'd buy an AP2 S2000.
...says the dude in a CTS-V.

You don't need to be in another car.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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I don't know enough to know if the automatic is truly rare and even desirable.

I wouldn't buy that car to DD it but it is a great looking car.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 11:20 PM
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Mercedes-Benz 300 TE...WYHI...?

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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 08:28 AM
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Mercedes-Benz 300 TE...WYHI...?
Most definitely. I'd rather have a W123 TE, but a late W124 would work for me too.
But, I'm a little partial to the W123 since it was my first car (240D)


Hmm. W124, swap in a C36 drivetrain
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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I think the W124 is the beginning of the decline of quality that Mercedes suffered for a lot of the late 90s and into the mid-2000s.

I would rather have the W123.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Yay or nay?




Info from the designer, Bo Zolland:
That's a rendering, right? I think it looks great! Although I don't like the chrome/silver trim on the bottom of the bumpers and side skirts.

Also, the front left tire looks pretty low on air.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I think the W124 is the beginning of the decline of quality that Mercedes suffered for a lot of the late 90s and into the mid-2000s.

I would rather have the W123.
I think the W124 still had a lot of the bulletproof quality of the prior years, but it did seem to be the starting point of the decline.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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1966 Ford Mustang Meets Volvo Wagon

WYHI...?

From here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...of-convenience

If you're asking yourself why anyone would want to graft a Volvo 240DL's wagon roof and hatch onto a Ford Mustang, let us know when you find out. We're asking ourselves the same question.

Okay, so it's not so hard to figure out why someone would want to make a Mustang shooting brake, or "sedan delivery," as it's styled by the eBay seller. It's a classic automotive reverse mullet: party in the front, business in the back; a place to put plenty of gear while still having the muscle car you've always wanted. It's practical, after a fashion.

In the case of this particular example, there are many things to like: the long, low profile; the midnight purple paint; the apparently clean and tidy marriage of Volvo and Mustang bodywork. But looking more closely, there are details that don't quite work: the dated digital gauge cluster; the questionably upholstered interior (is that genuine Naugahyde?); the mini-hearse-like proportions of the rear cargo area.

But under the hood lives a beastly 514-cubic-inch carbureted V-8 engine. For those who think only in metric when it comes to displacement, that's 8.4 liters--as big as a Viper's V-10. The transmission, rear end, steering, and other performance pieces have also been upgraded to sportier standards. It's only traveled about 200 miles since completion, says the seller.

You can find this gearhead's griffin on eBay at a current bid price of $35,100--and only 18 hours left on the auction clock.


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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 03:53 PM
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^^^No. Just...no.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
^^^No. Just...no.
It's not the most beautiful thing out there...but, it also kinda works.

I don't mind it. Kinda creative.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
It's not the most beautiful thing out there...but, it also kinda works.

I don't mind it. Kinda creative.
What part of "No" did you not understand?
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
What part of "No" did you not understand?
You think you're just soooooooooooooooooooooo cool now that you drove that Gallardo, don't you?

















Fine.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 04:27 PM
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You think you're just soooooooooooooooooooooo cool now that you drove that Gallardo, don't you?

















Fine.
I was cool before...I'm uber-cool, now.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 05:14 PM
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I like the Mustang shooting brake
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
It's not the most beautiful thing out there...but, it also kinda works.

I don't mind it. Kinda creative.
Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
I like the Mustang shooting brake
You're both infidels...or imbeciles..or both.
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 07:57 AM
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...says the dude in a CTS-V.
Speaking of which......this is from 3/26/14 when it last snowed here. iPhone photo so not perfect-looking, and yet it's just right, down to the smoke coming out of the exhausts. I wish I'd thought to have my T4i out for this shot.

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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Mercedes-Benz 300 TE...WYHI...?

Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Most definitely. I'd rather have a W123 TE, but a late W124 would work for me too.
But, I'm a little partial to the W123 since it was my first car (240D)


Hmm. W124, swap in a C36 drivetrain
Originally Posted by charliemike
I think the W124 is the beginning of the decline of quality that Mercedes suffered for a lot of the late 90s and into the mid-2000s.

I would rather have the W123.
Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
I think the W124 still had a lot of the bulletproof quality of the prior years, but it did seem to be the starting point of the decline.
that decline started when they introduced W210 in '95, they changed their stratedy they decided their cars last too long and they not making enough coin on it...

as much as i love W123 which was my first car as well i'd rather take w124 beacuse its newer better gas milage and drivability, w123 diesel were slow as hell like 55hp for 2.0 and 3 speed auto. w124 had the best engine offered in '87 only it was 3.0 6cyl turbo diesel, gasoline engines 300E had problems with headgasket(prior facelift), and those after facelift E320 had problems with engine wiring going bad but once replaced it was great... i lost these cars but its really hard to find a decent one, to bad wagon wasnt offered with V8. other than that car was rock solid
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 09:53 AM
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wasn't a wagon, but I feel like a dumb ass for being embarrassed by my dad's old 380 SEL (W126). He had this champagne colored sedan, and it was really a decent car. I gave him crap for it sometimes, but he loved that car. I was a stupid teenager anyway... just couldn't appreciate cars like that at the time.

He sold it and got a V6 Camry which he still has to this day.
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 11:23 AM
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Vauxhall VXR8 wagon (6MT with LSA) vs. Audi RS6. Tough to choose. Brute force with a real 6MT vs. "Quaaaaaaatro!". First world problems....

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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 08:28 AM
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^^ Will the VXR give you a crisis?
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 10:20 AM
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Yow. Hennessey-tuned Cadillac CTS-V Wagon...

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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 10:41 AM
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Do want!

Come on Bob, make it happen
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