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Old 05-08-2020, 08:33 PM
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^ I like BMW, but have always loved Alpina conversions. They do a nice job with their additions without screwing up the character of the car. Their wheels are classy.
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https://www.carscoops.com/2020/05/on...ck-in-the-day/


The idea of a Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 Wagon may seem absolutely bizarre but in the mid-1990s, one such car was created. You’ll probably either hate it or love it.

Vistec R Imports writes that the car was built by Japanese automotive magazine Option in 1996 and unveiled at the Nagoya Performance Car Show. The man behind the project was Daijiro Inada, the founder of Option as well as one of the two men responsible for establishing the D1 Grand Prix and transforming the art of drifting into a worldwide sport.

The project seen here through pictures shared to us by Chars_ill started off with a regular R33 GT-R that received the rear canopy of a Nissan EXA and Inada then set about making the vehicle as fast as possible.We don’t have all that many details available about the powertrain but understand it is a fully-built version of Nissan’s iconic twin-turbocharged RB26, perhaps with upwards of 1,000 hp on tap. The car was an absolute beast back in the day and managed to lap Japan’s Tsukuba circuit in 1:04.452. That’s quicker than a McLaren F1 and faster than many modern performance cars like the 997-generation Porsche 911 GT3, Mk I Audi R8 V10, and the Mercedes-Benz A 45 AMG.

The car, known as the ‘Speedwagon,’ was also a weapon in a straight-line and could run down the quarter-mile in just 11.89 seconds and top out at 189 mph (304.8 km/h).

Back in late 2018, the car hit the market but it’s unclear if it was ever sold or if it is still available.

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That's a pretty cool SB.
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Wallpaper size...

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FYI: https://acurazine.com/forums/automot.../#post16576508
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You know, I really think the C class wagon would be perfect for the USA. The size is not very big, but it is truly a sweet ride in AMG form.
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C63 S wagon?
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I told my wife, had the C-Estate been an option, it would've been top of the list over the C300 sedan.
We only get the E here, and even then they're not very common.
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Originally Posted by mrmako
You know, I really think the C class wagon would be perfect for the USA. The size is not very big, but it is truly a sweet ride in AMG form.
Agreed. I feel the same way about the S4/RS4 Avant. Instead, we get that plastic cladded wannabe
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The new Mercedes and BMW interiors all look very nice...

But they start getting annoying because they are almost exactly the same no matter what car you get.

At least there were some differentiation between trims before... now it is just 1 glove fits all...

I feel Audi is going down the same path...
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
The new Mercedes and BMW interiors all look very nice...

But they start getting annoying because they are almost exactly the same no matter what car you get.

At least there were some differentiation between trims before... now it is just 1 glove fits all...

I feel Audi is going down the same path...
So, you're saying I could pretend I jumped into an R8...?
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
The new Mercedes and BMW interiors all look very nice...

But they start getting annoying because they are almost exactly the same no matter what car you get.

At least there were some differentiation between trims before... now it is just 1 glove fits all...

I feel Audi is going down the same path...
That's what happens when companies decide to replace buttons and switch gear with touchscreens - it becomes one size fits all.
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You mean Optima?


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So, you're saying I could pretend I jumped into an R8...?
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
You mean Optima?
Go imagine you're driving a 1-Series.
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1 series is still a BMW
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
1 series is still a BMW


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Originally Posted by charliemike
C63 S wagon?
Yep. Sadly not for the US market.

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Agreed. I feel the same way about the S4/RS4 Avant. Instead, we get that plastic cladded wannabe
I hate the plastic in the wheel arches. The new A6 Allroad does a better job of it, but still.

Originally Posted by oonowindoo
The new Mercedes and BMW interiors all look very nice...

But they start getting annoying because they are almost exactly the same no matter what car you get.

At least there were some differentiation between trims before... now it is just 1 glove fits all...

I feel Audi is going down the same path...
The one thing Audi did was the virtual cockpit. That is pretty sweet. But I tend to agree, it used to be that when you bought a marquee name, you new it when you sat behind the wheel. Audi still does interiors better than Merc or BMW. But Volvo did the best doing an integration of the tablet in the dash IMO.
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So here are the interiors of the BMW, Audi, Mercedes, and Volvo wagons. You guys can judge.



Audi A6 Allroad

Mercedes E550 Performance Wagon

BMW 5 Series Wagon

Volvo V90 Interior
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Biased, but prefer the Hyundaudi interior best.
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^ I did own a 5000S wagon while in Germany in 1996. Very front heavy, handling was horrible, but it was a 5 speed manual. Sad to see that car go, but I had to move up to something better.
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To me, the only viable rationale for having a rocket box is to carry skis, because let's face it-a family that has one of these cars in its garage probably doesn't take lengthy road trips preferring to fly instead. This car is not a winter ride for me at all so ditch the Thule

Showing the functionality? I would prefer without the Thule, but if needed, really cool on! Still a bad
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Showing the functionality? I would prefer without the Thule, but if needed, really cool on! Still a bad
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What's really cool is seeing these wagons towing a trailer.




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Mitsubishi used to have some really cool cars in the 80s 90 and very early 2000s... when they named their CUV Eclipse, they basic just signed their death certificate in the US.

I would put desirability for Eclipse GS-T(X) above Integra and Prelude back in the day
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I've been in love with Alpina vehicles for decades, if I could grab one of these I'd be one happy I am thinking when I replace my 650 GC I'll get a CPO Alpina B7. Alpina porn:





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