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Old 10-08-2018, 11:26 AM
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Her wants:
1. Tan/grey interior (not black)
2. LDW, CBMS, (i.e. those kinds of safety features),Auto Cruise Control,


My wants:
1. Japanese brand
2. Ventilated seats (because Florida)
3. V6
4. No CVT
5. LDW, CBMS, Auto cruise control (i.e. those safety features)
6. No ebony or black interior or exterior colors
7. No 3rd row
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Has to be 2016 or newer.
Less than $30K OTD.
Less than 35K miles.
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:30 AM
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Subaru Outback. Meets all of your requirements other than the CVT. Subaru CVT is actually pretty good. As long as you stay away from the Nissan CVT, you should be fine.

Other option is CRV or Subaru Ascent (though that has a 3rd row)
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Ford Edge Ecoboost. Just not Japanese built.
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Honda CRV has engine problems with gas getting into oil crankcase. No thank you.
Ford, no thank you.
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Subaru? They have permanent AWD. Do not want AWD.
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I guess the only ones that hits all of those notes is a Lexus RX, Acura RDX, or whatever the Infiniti FX is called these days. Can't think of any others.
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Wife was looking at a Marono (i.e. Murano). I hate CVTs. What's wrong with the Nissan CVTs, if you don't mind me asking.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1 View Post
I guess the only ones that hits all of those notes is a Lexus RX, Acura RDX, or whatever the Infiniti FX is called these days. Can't think of any others.
RDX doesn't have a V6 or else I agree it would be a great suggestion.
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Honda CRV has engine problems with gas getting into oil crankcase. No thank you.
Ford, no thank you.
Looks like Honda is working on a fix for it.

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Subaru? They have permanent AWD. Do not want AWD.
Why?
If no AWD then you're stuck with the Lexus, Acura, or Infiniti. I guess the RAV4 can be included too but it's a dog and doesn't have a V6.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey View Post
RDX doesn't have a V6 or else I agree it would be a great suggestion.
Dude, you suck. They have a V6 in 2016 version. Do not want a new SUV. Used. Let someone else get the depreciation hit.
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Subaru Forester

Why no AWD?
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1 View Post
Looks like Honda is working on a fix for it.



Why?
If no AWD then you're stuck with the Lexus, Acura, or Infiniti. I guess the RAV4 can be included too but it's a dog and doesn't have a V6.
We're in Florida. Don't need AWD.
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Forester doesn't have a V6.
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Wife was looking at a Marono (i.e. Murano). I hate CVTs. What's wrong with the Nissan CVTs, if you don't mind me asking.
Nissan CVT's use a belt. This is what gives them the rubber band sensation. Subaru uses a chain and Honda is a steel wrapped belt to mitigate the rubber band feeling. I've driven a Nissan Rogue with CVT and it was horrible. My parents have an Outback H6 with CVT and it's perfectly acceptable. Also, Subaru and Honda make their own transmissions. Nissan outsources theirs.

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Jeep Grand Cherokee?
Would not recommend Jeep for reliability though the GC is the better of the lot.

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And that car is like afterbirth kind of ugly.
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
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We're in Florida. Don't need AWD.
Right, but if it's not an option and doesn't cost any more then why not?

If buying used then RDX or Lexus RX all the way.
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Dude, you suck. They have a V6 in 2016 version. Do not want a new SUV. Used. Let someone else get the depreciation hit.
My bad. Did not know they ever made an RDX with a V6. Just remember the original one was turbo 4cyl and the new one is now too. That goes back to being my vote then that also checks your boxes.
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Only reason I could think of not wanting AWD is maybe a little loss in MPG. But if you rule out AWD vehicles I think you rule out a decent many. RDX and RX only come in RWD I believe.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1 View Post
Right, but if it's not an option and doesn't cost any more then why not?

If buying used then RDX or Lexus RX all the way.
It costs $1,700 more than FWD versions, typically, not to mention the hit on gas mileage.
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RDX is only AWD or FWD. RX is the same.
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I'd buy a used RDX in a heartbeat
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Highlander has a 3rd row.
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what's the issue with a 3rd row? Not like you have to have the seats up
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Maybe gatr is worried about weight?

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It costs $1,700 more than FWD versions, typically, not to mention the hit on gas mileage.
According to the EPA, the 6 cylinder Outback gets a whopping 1mpg fewer combined than the RDX or RX FWD models and only on the highway. They are the same for city. That, to me, is a wash since your driving habits are likely very different. Outback is probably a good bit cheaper than the luxury models too.
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3rd row SUVs are typically larger. After having the Traverse, we did not need something that big. The Rav 4 did not have the LDW, auto cruise control, etc. Was looking only at 2016 and newer.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1 View Post
According to the EPA, the 6 cylinder Outback gets a whopping 1mpg fewer combined than the RDX or RX FWD models and only on the highway. They are the same for city. That, to me, is a wash since your driving habits are likely very different. Outback is probably a good bit cheaper than the luxury models too.
I get it, but the mechanical costs and other associated costs with an AWD SUV are higher than a FWD version.
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PS about the only SUV that has ALL those features in that price range...is the Jeep Cherokee...but I'll be the first one to tell you that the 9spd transmission sucks worse than a CVT.

Go drive a Mazda CX5...then tell me that you HAVE TO HAVE a v6.
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I get it, but the mechanical costs and other associated costs with an AWD SUV are higher than a FWD version.
Like what? AWD is Subaru's bread and butter. They are very reliable (provided you get one post 2012) and the safety is up there with Volvo. The eyesight system is awesome. Give it a go, all I ask.

The Subie Ascent will likely be our next vehicle.
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PS about the only SUV that has ALL those features in that price range...is the Jeep Cherokee...but I'll be the first one to tell you that the 9spd transmission sucks worse than a CVT.

Go drive a Mazda CX5...then tell me that you HAVE TO HAVE a v6.
...and I'll be the second. Other than the transmission, the Jeep is really quite nice but, as I said, reliability isn't really very good.
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...and I'll be the second. Other than the transmission, the Jeep is really quite nice but, as I said, reliability isn't really very good.
I didn't have an issue with reliability with ours...just a piss poor implemented transmission.

Though my friend just got a new pacifica hybrid and he loves it...so either he doesn't notice what I notice or maybe they finally got it worked out.
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Wife was looking at a Marono (i.e. Murano). I hate CVTs. What's wrong with the Nissan CVTs, if you don't mind me asking.
They’re grenades. A friend of mine was selling Nissans for a bit and he told me the shop was replacing an average of 2 CVTs per week, at that medium sized dealership.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc View Post
PS about the only SUV that has ALL those features in that price range...is the Jeep Cherokee...but I'll be the first one to tell you that the 9spd transmission sucks worse than a CVT.

Go drive a Mazda CX5...then tell me that you HAVE TO HAVE a v6.
The CX-5, unfortunately, does not have ventilated seats.
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The CX-5, unfortunately, does not have ventilated seats.
Most won't

You're going to have to compromise somewhere or up your price.
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IIRC, the 9 speed tranny is the same ZF tranny that plagued Acura users on this very board...
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Also, maybe it’s just me, but the 2G RDX is the most meh vehicle I’ve ever laid eyes on. The styling is so subdued and plain. I don’t think they look good at all.
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