Notices

Help Gatr find not a Traverse

 
Old 10-08-2018, 10:26 AM
  #1  
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Thread Starter
 
CCColtsicehockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 32
Posts: 41,336
Received 2,584 Likes on 1,855 Posts
Help Gatr find not a Traverse

Gatr needs a replacement SUV. Start shooting suggestions.

Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Her wants:
1. Tan/grey interior (not black)
2. LDW, CBMS, (i.e. those kinds of safety features),Auto Cruise Control,


My wants:
1. Japanese brand
2. Ventilated seats (because Florida)
3. V6
4. No CVT
5. LDW, CBMS, Auto cruise control (i.e. those safety features)
6. No ebony or black interior or exterior colors
7. No 3rd row
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Has to be 2016 or newer.
Less than $30K OTD.
Less than 35K miles.
​​​​​​​

Last edited by CCColtsicehockey; 10-08-2018 at 10:40 AM.
CCColtsicehockey is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:30 AM
  #2  
Ex-OEM King
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesnowta
Posts: 5,879
Received 1,726 Likes on 1,179 Posts
Subaru Outback. Meets all of your requirements other than the CVT. Subaru CVT is actually pretty good. As long as you stay away from the Nissan CVT, you should be fine.

Other option is CRV or Subaru Ascent (though that has a 3rd row)
SamDoe1 is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:32 AM
  #3  
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Thread Starter
 
CCColtsicehockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 32
Posts: 41,336
Received 2,584 Likes on 1,855 Posts
Ford Edge Ecoboost. Just not Japanese built.
CCColtsicehockey is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:35 AM
  #4  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
Honda CRV has engine problems with gas getting into oil crankcase. No thank you.
Ford, no thank you.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:35 AM
  #5  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
Subaru? They have permanent AWD. Do not want AWD.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:36 AM
  #6  
Ex-OEM King
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesnowta
Posts: 5,879
Received 1,726 Likes on 1,179 Posts
I guess the only ones that hits all of those notes is a Lexus RX, Acura RDX, or whatever the Infiniti FX is called these days. Can't think of any others.
SamDoe1 is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:38 AM
  #7  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
Wife was looking at a Marono (i.e. Murano). I hate CVTs. What's wrong with the Nissan CVTs, if you don't mind me asking.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:39 AM
  #8  
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Thread Starter
 
CCColtsicehockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 32
Posts: 41,336
Received 2,584 Likes on 1,855 Posts
Originally Posted by SamDoe1 View Post
I guess the only ones that hits all of those notes is a Lexus RX, Acura RDX, or whatever the Infiniti FX is called these days. Can't think of any others.
RDX doesn't have a V6 or else I agree it would be a great suggestion.
CCColtsicehockey is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:40 AM
  #9  
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Thread Starter
 
CCColtsicehockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 32
Posts: 41,336
Received 2,584 Likes on 1,855 Posts
Updated the first post with more information
CCColtsicehockey is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:41 AM
  #10  
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Thread Starter
 
CCColtsicehockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 32
Posts: 41,336
Received 2,584 Likes on 1,855 Posts
Jeep Grand Cherokee?
CCColtsicehockey is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:41 AM
  #11  
Ex-OEM King
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesnowta
Posts: 5,879
Received 1,726 Likes on 1,179 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Honda CRV has engine problems with gas getting into oil crankcase. No thank you.
Ford, no thank you.
Looks like Honda is working on a fix for it.

Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Subaru? They have permanent AWD. Do not want AWD.
Why?
If no AWD then you're stuck with the Lexus, Acura, or Infiniti. I guess the RAV4 can be included too but it's a dog and doesn't have a V6.
SamDoe1 is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:43 AM
  #12  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey View Post
RDX doesn't have a V6 or else I agree it would be a great suggestion.
Dude, you suck. They have a V6 in 2016 version. Do not want a new SUV. Used. Let someone else get the depreciation hit.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:45 AM
  #13  
Senior Moderator
Regional Coordinator
(Mid-Atlantic)
iTrader: (6)
 
97BlackAckCL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ShitsBurgh
Age: 37
Posts: 89,041
Received 3,099 Likes on 2,185 Posts
Subaru Forester

Why no AWD?
97BlackAckCL is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:46 AM
  #14  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
i
Originally Posted by SamDoe1 View Post
Looks like Honda is working on a fix for it.



Why?
If no AWD then you're stuck with the Lexus, Acura, or Infiniti. I guess the RAV4 can be included too but it's a dog and doesn't have a V6.
We're in Florida. Don't need AWD.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:46 AM
  #15  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
Forester doesn't have a V6.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:47 AM
  #16  
Ex-OEM King
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesnowta
Posts: 5,879
Received 1,726 Likes on 1,179 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Wife was looking at a Marono (i.e. Murano). I hate CVTs. What's wrong with the Nissan CVTs, if you don't mind me asking.
Nissan CVT's use a belt. This is what gives them the rubber band sensation. Subaru uses a chain and Honda is a steel wrapped belt to mitigate the rubber band feeling. I've driven a Nissan Rogue with CVT and it was horrible. My parents have an Outback H6 with CVT and it's perfectly acceptable. Also, Subaru and Honda make their own transmissions. Nissan outsources theirs.

Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey View Post
Jeep Grand Cherokee?
Would not recommend Jeep for reliability though the GC is the better of the lot.

Last edited by SamDoe1; 10-08-2018 at 10:49 AM.
SamDoe1 is offline  
The following 2 users liked this post by SamDoe1:
00TL-P3.2 (10-08-2018), nist7 (10-09-2018)
Old 10-08-2018, 10:47 AM
  #17  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
And that car is like afterbirth kind of ugly.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:48 AM
  #18  
Ex-OEM King
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesnowta
Posts: 5,879
Received 1,726 Likes on 1,179 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
i

We're in Florida. Don't need AWD.
Right, but if it's not an option and doesn't cost any more then why not?

If buying used then RDX or Lexus RX all the way.
SamDoe1 is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:49 AM
  #19  
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Thread Starter
 
CCColtsicehockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 32
Posts: 41,336
Received 2,584 Likes on 1,855 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Dude, you suck. They have a V6 in 2016 version. Do not want a new SUV. Used. Let someone else get the depreciation hit.
My bad. Did not know they ever made an RDX with a V6. Just remember the original one was turbo 4cyl and the new one is now too. That goes back to being my vote then that also checks your boxes.
CCColtsicehockey is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:51 AM
  #20  
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Thread Starter
 
CCColtsicehockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 32
Posts: 41,336
Received 2,584 Likes on 1,855 Posts
Only reason I could think of not wanting AWD is maybe a little loss in MPG. But if you rule out AWD vehicles I think you rule out a decent many. RDX and RX only come in RWD I believe.
CCColtsicehockey is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:55 AM
  #21  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
Originally Posted by SamDoe1 View Post
Right, but if it's not an option and doesn't cost any more then why not?

If buying used then RDX or Lexus RX all the way.
It costs $1,700 more than FWD versions, typically, not to mention the hit on gas mileage.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:56 AM
  #22  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
RDX is only AWD or FWD. RX is the same.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:57 AM
  #23  
Moderator
 
cu2wagon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Dirty H-Town, Amerikkka
Posts: 21,778
Received 4,454 Likes on 3,148 Posts
Toyota Highlander?
cu2wagon is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 10:59 AM
  #24  
Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 38,193
Received 5,880 Likes on 4,716 Posts
I'd buy a used RDX in a heartbeat
thoiboi is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:03 AM
  #25  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
Highlander has a 3rd row.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:12 AM
  #26  
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (5)
 
KaMLuNg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Age: 36
Posts: 15,451
Received 927 Likes on 675 Posts
v6 Rav 4?
KaMLuNg is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:12 AM
  #27  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 40
Posts: 46,955
Received 3,775 Likes on 2,010 Posts
what's the issue with a 3rd row? Not like you have to have the seats up
Sarlacc is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Mr. Maker (10-09-2018)
Old 10-08-2018, 11:13 AM
  #28  
Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 38,193
Received 5,880 Likes on 4,716 Posts
Maybe gatr is worried about weight?

thoiboi is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:15 AM
  #29  
Ex-OEM King
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesnowta
Posts: 5,879
Received 1,726 Likes on 1,179 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
It costs $1,700 more than FWD versions, typically, not to mention the hit on gas mileage.
According to the EPA, the 6 cylinder Outback gets a whopping 1mpg fewer combined than the RDX or RX FWD models and only on the highway. They are the same for city. That, to me, is a wash since your driving habits are likely very different. Outback is probably a good bit cheaper than the luxury models too.
SamDoe1 is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:16 AM
  #30  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
3rd row SUVs are typically larger. After having the Traverse, we did not need something that big. The Rav 4 did not have the LDW, auto cruise control, etc. Was looking only at 2016 and newer.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:17 AM
  #31  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
Originally Posted by SamDoe1 View Post
According to the EPA, the 6 cylinder Outback gets a whopping 1mpg fewer combined than the RDX or RX FWD models and only on the highway. They are the same for city. That, to me, is a wash since your driving habits are likely very different. Outback is probably a good bit cheaper than the luxury models too.
I get it, but the mechanical costs and other associated costs with an AWD SUV are higher than a FWD version.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:17 AM
  #32  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 40
Posts: 46,955
Received 3,775 Likes on 2,010 Posts
PS about the only SUV that has ALL those features in that price range...is the Jeep Cherokee...but I'll be the first one to tell you that the 9spd transmission sucks worse than a CVT.

Go drive a Mazda CX5...then tell me that you HAVE TO HAVE a v6.
Sarlacc is offline  
The following 5 users liked this post by Sarlacc:
00TL-P3.2 (10-08-2018), jupitersolo (10-08-2018), kurtatx (10-09-2018), nist7 (10-09-2018), TacoBello (10-08-2018)
Old 10-08-2018, 11:19 AM
  #33  
Ex-OEM King
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesnowta
Posts: 5,879
Received 1,726 Likes on 1,179 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
I get it, but the mechanical costs and other associated costs with an AWD SUV are higher than a FWD version.
Like what? AWD is Subaru's bread and butter. They are very reliable (provided you get one post 2012) and the safety is up there with Volvo. The eyesight system is awesome. Give it a go, all I ask.

The Subie Ascent will likely be our next vehicle.
SamDoe1 is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:20 AM
  #34  
Ex-OEM King
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesnowta
Posts: 5,879
Received 1,726 Likes on 1,179 Posts
Originally Posted by Sarlacc View Post
PS about the only SUV that has ALL those features in that price range...is the Jeep Cherokee...but I'll be the first one to tell you that the 9spd transmission sucks worse than a CVT.

Go drive a Mazda CX5...then tell me that you HAVE TO HAVE a v6.
...and I'll be the second. Other than the transmission, the Jeep is really quite nice but, as I said, reliability isn't really very good.
SamDoe1 is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:22 AM
  #35  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 40
Posts: 46,955
Received 3,775 Likes on 2,010 Posts
Originally Posted by SamDoe1 View Post
...and I'll be the second. Other than the transmission, the Jeep is really quite nice but, as I said, reliability isn't really very good.
I didn't have an issue with reliability with ours...just a piss poor implemented transmission.

Though my friend just got a new pacifica hybrid and he loves it...so either he doesn't notice what I notice or maybe they finally got it worked out.
Sarlacc is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:31 AM
  #36  
Registered Member
 
TacoBello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: In an igloo
Posts: 30,495
Received 4,404 Likes on 3,313 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Wife was looking at a Marono (i.e. Murano). I hate CVTs. What's wrong with the Nissan CVTs, if you don't mind me asking.
They’re grenades. A friend of mine was selling Nissans for a bit and he told me the shop was replacing an average of 2 CVTs per week, at that medium sized dealership.
TacoBello is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:37 AM
  #37  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,522
Received 1,173 Likes on 793 Posts
Originally Posted by Sarlacc View Post
PS about the only SUV that has ALL those features in that price range...is the Jeep Cherokee...but I'll be the first one to tell you that the 9spd transmission sucks worse than a CVT.

Go drive a Mazda CX5...then tell me that you HAVE TO HAVE a v6.
The CX-5, unfortunately, does not have ventilated seats.
gatrhumpy is offline  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:38 AM
  #38  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 40
Posts: 46,955
Received 3,775 Likes on 2,010 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
The CX-5, unfortunately, does not have ventilated seats.
Most won't

You're going to have to compromise somewhere or up your price.
Sarlacc is offline  
The following 3 users liked this post by Sarlacc:
Aman (10-10-2018), nist7 (10-09-2018), RPhilMan1 (10-08-2018)
Old 10-08-2018, 11:38 AM
  #39  
Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 38,193
Received 5,880 Likes on 4,716 Posts
IIRC, the 9 speed tranny is the same ZF tranny that plagued Acura users on this very board...
thoiboi is online now  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:38 AM
  #40  
Registered Member
 
TacoBello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: In an igloo
Posts: 30,495
Received 4,404 Likes on 3,313 Posts
Also, maybe it’s just me, but the 2G RDX is the most meh vehicle I’ve ever laid eyes on. The styling is so subdued and plain. I don’t think they look good at all.
TacoBello is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Help Gatr find not a Traverse


Contact Us - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.