General Car Talk Discussion Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 07:05 PM
  #7761  
Costco's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,869
Likes: 3,489
Originally Posted by charliemike
If you want to keep it, that is fine. To sell it I wouldn't do anything but try to out air in the tires and get it to turn over.
This... also depends on what the garage find is. Do I really want to drive it or build it? Or is it more trouble than its worth, or does it even interest me to begin with?
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2014 | 12:48 AM
  #7762  
srika's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator Alumnus
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 64,153
Likes: 14,305
100. Nick Kallergis - 1250 whp UGR SL TT
this car ran 201 mph.

Reply
Old Mar 15, 2014 | 01:11 AM
  #7763  
VR1's Avatar
VR1
Itz JDM y0!
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,139
Likes: 449
From: Houston, TX
2k14 is SO much fun. I have never experienced anything like this before.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 12:02 AM
  #7764  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU


Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 09:54 AM
  #7765  
Aman's Avatar
Your Friendly Canadian
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 17,447
Likes: 1,506
From: Toronto, Ontario
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:14 AM
  #7766  
Yumcha's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 169,088
Likes: 23,853
Nice, Maj...is that all you notice?
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:36 AM
  #7767  
Costco's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,869
Likes: 3,489
Originally Posted by Yumcha
Nice, Maj...is that all you notice?
You see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear, right?
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:37 AM
  #7768  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
Well...
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:45 AM
  #7769  
Yumcha's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 169,088
Likes: 23,853
One Of Eleven AMG-Modded Mercedes-Benz 300SLs For Sale

From here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ls-up-for-sale

Mercedes-Benz’s in-house tuner AMG was only established in 1967 but the company has built a handful of original 300SLs in the past, including this 1954 gullwing. As the story goes, Brunei’s car crazy Sultan asked AMG if it could it take an original 300SL gullwing coupe and 300SL roadster and fit them both with modern internals.

As drastic as it sounds, there was apparently enough demand that nine other examples were built (other buyers are believed to be from the Brunei royal family). So between 1996 and 2009, AMG took 11 original 300SLs--eight coupes and three roadsters--and did a restomod on them. They were then sold for a price of more than a million euros ($1.39 million at current exchange rates) each.

Now, one of the cars is up for sale. It’s a 1954 example with chassis number 198040. It will be going under the hammer at an RM Auctions event in Monaco in early May.

The chassis and body are original but most of the rest of the car is new. Instead of the original straight-six, it’s powered by a 6.0-liter V-8 rated at 380 horsepower and 427 pound-feet of torque. The 300SL’s original swing-arm rear suspension has also made way for a modern five-link setup, and also added to the mix were Bilstein shocks and AMG light alloys. Power steering, disc brakes and a four-speed automatic transmission have also been added.

The interior is almost completely new and features a mixture of Nappa leather and Alcantara trim. As the shots reveal, the car also gets a HWA steering wheel, a Sony CD changer and carbon fiber protective panels. Other subtle interior touches include a steering-column lock for heightened security, as well as a complete set of original 300SL instruments which were adapted to modern comfort and electronic operation.

No estimate has been given but another of the AMG-modified 300SLs went up for auction in 2009 and sold for £462,000 ($767,460). That’s comparable with the price of an unmolested example so it will be interesting to see what this one will go for given the current mania in rare classics.

Other special cars to look out for during the RM Auction in Monaco, which gets underway May 10, include a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTE, 1969 Lamborghini Miura P400S, 1985 Porsche 959 prototype, and Ferrari and Brabham Formula One cars from 1989 and 1966, respectively.











Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:48 AM
  #7770  
Yumcha's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 169,088
Likes: 23,853
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:01 AM
  #7771  
Costco's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,869
Likes: 3,489
that smilie

I LOVE restomods. Never thought I'd see a 300SL restomodded, let alone done by AMG!
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:04 AM
  #7772  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:05 AM
  #7773  
Yumcha's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 169,088
Likes: 23,853
AZ time-share for this? I've got $5.67 here.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:06 AM
  #7774  
Costco's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,869
Likes: 3,489
$4 bucks, pocket lint and a few pieces of Orbit gum.

What'll that get me? A few seconds of touching the door handle?
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:12 AM
  #7775  
ttribe's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,542
Likes: 6,192
From: Phoenix, AZ
Strange to see an airbag inside a 300SL.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 12:04 PM
  #7776  
Costco's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,869
Likes: 3,489
Originally Posted by ttribe
Strange to see an airbag inside a 300SL.
Same thing, except what really threw me off were those switches and the shifter. It looks like those were pulled from my dad's old 380SEL.

I've never been one to fuss over a car being "all-original". As long as it's tastefully and well-done. I'd much rather have a restomodded SL than a numbers-matching one.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 12:31 PM
  #7777  
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 120 Days
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 29,681
Likes: 6,517
From: Spring, TX
That Gullwing just seems wrong to me
Probably in my top 5 favorite cars of all time, especially after getting a ride in one.

I've got nothing against restomods, but just seems wrong on a 300SL.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 12:50 PM
  #7778  
JS + XES's Avatar
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 20,301
Likes: 2,603
From: Socal
Absolutely gorgeous.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 01:30 PM
  #7779  
Aman's Avatar
Your Friendly Canadian
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 17,447
Likes: 1,506
From: Toronto, Ontario
I agree it seems kind of off for a 300SL restomod. Maybe if the parts were bespoke, but it looks like they just slapped on stuff from the 90s parts bin.

Last edited by Aman; Mar 17, 2014 at 01:34 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 02:11 PM
  #7780  
charliemike's Avatar
Fahrvergnügen'd
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 13,494
Likes: 1,569
From: Maryland
Basically ruined what would have been a $1M+ car at this point.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 02:23 PM
  #7781  
Rick_TL-S's Avatar
Suzuka Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,283
Likes: 1,272
Originally Posted by charliemike
Basically ruined what would have been a $1M+ car at this point.
Not likely.
No estimate has been given but another of the AMG-modified 300SLs went up for auction in 2009 and sold for £462,000 ($767,460). That’s comparable with the price of an unmolested example so it will be interesting to see what this one will go for given the current mania in rare classics.
Neat idea, but they should have placed some wheels on it closer to the original.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 02:27 PM
  #7782  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
Originally Posted by charliemike
Basically ruined what would have been a $1M+ car at this point.
It was originally sold for a million euros and the starting price is comparable to an original, so no shame here. Plenty of 300's to jack off to in car museums. Restomod like this will likely be driven and that's the glory of it. It looks fucking great and you can spooge your pants if you see it in the wild instead of under a glass jar.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 03:22 PM
  #7783  
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 120 Days
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 29,681
Likes: 6,517
From: Spring, TX
Originally Posted by Majofo
It was originally sold for a million euros and the starting price is comparable to an original, so no shame here. Plenty of 300's to jack off to in car museums. Restomod like this will likely be driven and that's the glory of it. It looks fucking great and you can spooge your pants if you see it in the wild instead of under a glass jar.
I used to know the guy that owns the last Gullwing to roll off the production line & it gets driven as well. For a car that they've been offered $2M & turned down to get driven, though infrequently).
Getting a ride in it was amazing. Much quicker than I was expecting it to be.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 04:15 PM
  #7784  
srika's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator Alumnus
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 64,153
Likes: 14,305
shoulda put some 22" dubs on it.

hate when people put new wheels on old cars.

saw a recent sale with Murcielago wheels on a Diablo. please. stop.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 05:36 PM
  #7785  
Costco's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,869
Likes: 3,489
Originally Posted by Majofo
It was originally sold for a million euros and the starting price is comparable to an original, so no shame here. Plenty of 300's to jack off to in car museums. Restomod like this will likely be driven and that's the glory of it. It looks fucking great and you can spooge your pants if you see it in the wild instead of under a glass jar.


Y'all sum hataz.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 06:17 PM
  #7786  
JS + XES's Avatar
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 20,301
Likes: 2,603
From: Socal
Saw this car in person yesterday at the Grove.

It was just meh. Kinda sea creature-ish.

Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 06:55 PM
  #7787  
srika's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator Alumnus
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 64,153
Likes: 14,305
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 07:04 PM
  #7788  
Yumcha's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 169,088
Likes: 23,853
Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
Saw this car in person yesterday at the Grove.

It was just meh. Kinda sea creature-ish.

Pffft...everything to you looks like a sea creature.



Next thing you know, you'll tell us you think Natalie Portman looks like a sea creature.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 07:08 PM
  #7789  
Yumcha's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 169,088
Likes: 23,853
Here's a sea creature. Not sure where the Cadillac (while not a perfect car) resembles it.








Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 07:51 PM
  #7790  
charliemike's Avatar
Fahrvergnügen'd
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 13,494
Likes: 1,569
From: Maryland
I don't know anyone who has said the ELR is ugly. Ridiculously overpriced.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 07:54 PM
  #7791  
ttribe's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,542
Likes: 6,192
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by Yumcha
Pffft...everything to you looks like a sea creature.
Originally Posted by charliemike
I don't know anyone who has said the ELR is ugly. Ridiculously overpriced.
Don't pay attention to him, he turned down a M3 for a Subaru.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 07:55 PM
  #7792  
JS + XES's Avatar
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 20,301
Likes: 2,603
From: Socal
It looked really good in the pictures.

It was my first time checking it out in person up close. It was just meh.

On the other hand, I saw this at the Starbucks.... Drooled for like 5 minutes.







I saw this before checking out that ELR or whatever. Maybe that's why it looked so meh?

Just being honest.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 08:12 PM
  #7793  
ttribe's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,542
Likes: 6,192
From: Phoenix, AZ
^^^Did the owner of the F-Type offer to trade you straight across for the BRZ and you turned him down?
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 08:29 PM
  #7794  
Yumcha's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 169,088
Likes: 23,853
Don't lie, Kimchi...you probably think the Jaguar F-Type looks like a "sea creature" too.


Everything is a sea creature to you.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 08:31 PM
  #7795  
ttribe's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,542
Likes: 6,192
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by Yumcha
Don't lie, Kimchi...you probably think the Jaguar F-Type looks like a "sea creature" too.


Everything is a sea creature to you.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that your car really does look like a sea creature.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 08:33 PM
  #7796  
Yumcha's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 169,088
Likes: 23,853
Originally Posted by ttribe
Let's not lose sight of the fact that your car really does look like a sea creature.
That's fair. We all can say some Infinitis have that sea creature look...


But, to call every car that is not to one's taste to look like a sea creature? A bit weird...I mean, seriously...where does that Cadillac look like a sea creature?
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 08:34 PM
  #7797  
Yumcha's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 169,088
Likes: 23,853
Aztek is ugly. But, not a sea creature. But, in Kimchi's world...sea creature.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 08:36 PM
  #7798  
ttribe's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,542
Likes: 6,192
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by Yumcha
That's fair. We all can say some Infinitis have that sea creature look...


But, to call every car that is not to one's taste to look like a sea creature? A bit weird...I mean, seriously...where does that Cadillac look like a sea creature?
He probably imagined you in the driver's seat and immediately defaulted to "sea creature".


Quick - someone P-shop a riding on the back of a whale!
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 08:38 PM
  #7799  
Yumcha's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 169,088
Likes: 23,853
Originally Posted by ttribe
He probably imagined you in the driver's seat and immediately defaulted to "sea creature".


Quick - someone P-shop a riding on the back of a whale!


Go step on a LEGO brick.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:50 PM
  #7800  
West6MT's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 9,295
Likes: 169
From: Toronto
Originally Posted by ttribe
He probably imagined you in the driver's seat and immediately defaulted to "sea creature".


Quick - someone P-shop a riding on the back of a whale!
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:46 AM.