General Car Talk Discussion Thread
#6801
Senior Moderator
And on a serious note, that's the reason the C63 AMG was not my current car (versus the Infiniti). We thought long and hard about it but, with the winters up here, we just had to go CUV. Heck, if it wasn't so bad, I'd be in the Merc and probably saved $12K too since all-in, it was $63K CDN I recall.
I'll go back to a sedan as a next car but it'll still have to be AWD (i.e. 5-Series xDrive).
#6802
Senior Moderator
There are still days I do appreciate the extra bit of clearance though. So, I may just stick to CUV/SUV and go for a Cayenne.
Dunno.
Dunno.
#6803
Aren't all new AMGs now 4Matic, standard? I thought I remember hearing that somewhere. Maybe it was just the CLA. And something about putting all the torque to the ground instead of releasing rubber into the atmosphere by means of vaporization.
#6804
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
4Matic E63 Wagon...
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#6805
Senior Moderator
No sir.
And on a serious note, that's the reason the C63 AMG was not my current car (versus the Infiniti). We thought long and hard about it but, with the winters up here, we just had to go CUV. Heck, if it wasn't so bad, I'd be in the Merc and probably saved $12K too since all-in, it was $63K CDN I recall.
I'll go back to a sedan as a next car but it'll still have to be AWD (i.e. 5-Series xDrive).
And on a serious note, that's the reason the C63 AMG was not my current car (versus the Infiniti). We thought long and hard about it but, with the winters up here, we just had to go CUV. Heck, if it wasn't so bad, I'd be in the Merc and probably saved $12K too since all-in, it was $63K CDN I recall.
I'll go back to a sedan as a next car but it'll still have to be AWD (i.e. 5-Series xDrive).
#6806
Moderator
#6807
Moderator
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Someone say wagon?
#6808
2024 Honda Civic Type R
Now the WRX is pretty nice with the 6MT. I like those numbers. But I don't think I could live with the design. That's too bad because I've always loved the STi.
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Aman (01-31-2014)
#6809
Senior Moderator
#6810
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Maybe consider a CPO example when it's time to look?
#6811
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#6812
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#6813
Moderator
#6814
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
A little tact, maybe some comprehension.
#6815
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Sorry to hear that Yummy
I know little cha is a trooper though!
Sending good vibes
I know little cha is a trooper though!
Sending good vibes
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Yumcha (01-31-2014)
#6816
Moderator
I was picking on Yummy earlier too...I thought it was kind of the board pass-time. Sorry.
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Yumcha (01-31-2014)
#6817
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
I thought that's why you came from left field.. okay.. back to cars.
Mmm.. an E63 4Matic Pussy Wagon.
Mmm.. an E63 4Matic Pussy Wagon.
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ttribe (01-31-2014)
#6818
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Not a Pussy Wagen..
#6819
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
#6820
Senior Moderator
I only wrote it in the SWEDT thread finally because the ordeal is over. I've been carrying it around for awhile now. No biggie. And Maj and I are cool.
#6821
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Only $114k nicely equipped. So.. $60k with 5k miles.
Randy!
Randy!
#6822
Senior Moderator
Okay...wasn't meant to come across like that. I totally misunderstood what you meant by the "1-year old" comment. In jest, I've had it suggested the way out of my financial issues was to sell or otherwise divest myself of one of my three kids. I thought that was in that vein. I see now I was wrong.
I was picking on Yummy earlier too...I thought it was kind of the board pass-time. Sorry.
I was picking on Yummy earlier too...I thought it was kind of the board pass-time. Sorry.
And the E63 would not have been in our books as we were leaning towards new.
And everyone picks on me.
I get no respeck.
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ttribe (01-31-2014)
#6823
Senior Moderator
Mercedes didn't issue the C63 Estate for North America, correct?
#6824
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#6825
I drive a Subata.
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Shut up and get a S4 or S6.
Do you guys get S4/S6 Avant in Arctic Circle?
Do you guys get S4/S6 Avant in Arctic Circle?
#6826
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Randy’s Impressions (on E63 4Matic S Wagon):
On the chassis setup: I would love to take some of that predictability and compliance and build it into the Viper, and even the SLS. Believe it or not, yeah. Because it helps it rotate in. If you don’t do that, then it can be a little lazy coming into the apex.
On the driveline: You know what, I did not notice all-wheel drive. Except for the fact that it doesn’t loosen up under power. It still doesn’t. Or not very darn much. In fact, what I like best about the car was tossing it in and getting the tail coming out, and then going to the power, and it just smoothly drives off the corner putting all that torque down. It’s not obviously an all-wheel-drive car.
On the engine: It has lots of torque, lots of power. I don’t notice any lag, not on the racetrack, anyway. Glorious exhaust note. Really beautiful sound.
2014 Mercedes Benz E63 AMG S Model 4Matic Wagon Front Three Quarter
On the handling: Fair amount of roll and a fair amount of understeer. It really likes that toss. Even better, toss and trail-brake to get the tail to move, because when it does, it’s just beautiful. It needs to be driven like a rally car.
On the transmission: Yeah, turning in for that last corner, I had to make sure I had second. Because it doesn’t want to go to second. The ratios from second to third and third to fourth are pretty wide, which, for me, was a disappointment. You’ve got seven gears. You know, close up the lower ones -- bing, bing, bing, bing.
Overall: Best wagon ever. Love it. Really powerful. Handles well. More understeer than I like.
On the chassis setup: I would love to take some of that predictability and compliance and build it into the Viper, and even the SLS. Believe it or not, yeah. Because it helps it rotate in. If you don’t do that, then it can be a little lazy coming into the apex.
On the driveline: You know what, I did not notice all-wheel drive. Except for the fact that it doesn’t loosen up under power. It still doesn’t. Or not very darn much. In fact, what I like best about the car was tossing it in and getting the tail coming out, and then going to the power, and it just smoothly drives off the corner putting all that torque down. It’s not obviously an all-wheel-drive car.
On the engine: It has lots of torque, lots of power. I don’t notice any lag, not on the racetrack, anyway. Glorious exhaust note. Really beautiful sound.
2014 Mercedes Benz E63 AMG S Model 4Matic Wagon Front Three Quarter
On the handling: Fair amount of roll and a fair amount of understeer. It really likes that toss. Even better, toss and trail-brake to get the tail to move, because when it does, it’s just beautiful. It needs to be driven like a rally car.
On the transmission: Yeah, turning in for that last corner, I had to make sure I had second. Because it doesn’t want to go to second. The ratios from second to third and third to fourth are pretty wide, which, for me, was a disappointment. You’ve got seven gears. You know, close up the lower ones -- bing, bing, bing, bing.
Overall: Best wagon ever. Love it. Really powerful. Handles well. More understeer than I like.
#6827
Senior Moderator
So, it started out with the C63 as my #1 choice but after thinking it through and taking into consideration the weather, we nuked that idea and stuck with SUV/CUV...XC60, X5, and the FX were our finalists.
I do lament that the Evoque and current-look Cayenne were not available.
#6828
Senior Moderator
Randy’s Impressions (on E63 4Matic S Wagon):
On the chassis setup: I would love to take some of that predictability and compliance and build it into the Viper, and even the SLS. Believe it or not, yeah. Because it helps it rotate in. If you don’t do that, then it can be a little lazy coming into the apex.
On the driveline: You know what, I did not notice all-wheel drive. Except for the fact that it doesn’t loosen up under power. It still doesn’t. Or not very darn much. In fact, what I like best about the car was tossing it in and getting the tail coming out, and then going to the power, and it just smoothly drives off the corner putting all that torque down. It’s not obviously an all-wheel-drive car.
On the engine: It has lots of torque, lots of power. I don’t notice any lag, not on the racetrack, anyway. Glorious exhaust note. Really beautiful sound.
2014 Mercedes Benz E63 AMG S Model 4Matic Wagon Front Three Quarter
On the handling: Fair amount of roll and a fair amount of understeer. It really likes that toss. Even better, toss and trail-brake to get the tail to move, because when it does, it’s just beautiful. It needs to be driven like a rally car.
On the transmission: Yeah, turning in for that last corner, I had to make sure I had second. Because it doesn’t want to go to second. The ratios from second to third and third to fourth are pretty wide, which, for me, was a disappointment. You’ve got seven gears. You know, close up the lower ones -- bing, bing, bing, bing.
Overall: Best wagon ever. Love it. Really powerful. Handles well. More understeer than I like.
On the chassis setup: I would love to take some of that predictability and compliance and build it into the Viper, and even the SLS. Believe it or not, yeah. Because it helps it rotate in. If you don’t do that, then it can be a little lazy coming into the apex.
On the driveline: You know what, I did not notice all-wheel drive. Except for the fact that it doesn’t loosen up under power. It still doesn’t. Or not very darn much. In fact, what I like best about the car was tossing it in and getting the tail coming out, and then going to the power, and it just smoothly drives off the corner putting all that torque down. It’s not obviously an all-wheel-drive car.
On the engine: It has lots of torque, lots of power. I don’t notice any lag, not on the racetrack, anyway. Glorious exhaust note. Really beautiful sound.
2014 Mercedes Benz E63 AMG S Model 4Matic Wagon Front Three Quarter
On the handling: Fair amount of roll and a fair amount of understeer. It really likes that toss. Even better, toss and trail-brake to get the tail to move, because when it does, it’s just beautiful. It needs to be driven like a rally car.
On the transmission: Yeah, turning in for that last corner, I had to make sure I had second. Because it doesn’t want to go to second. The ratios from second to third and third to fourth are pretty wide, which, for me, was a disappointment. You’ve got seven gears. You know, close up the lower ones -- bing, bing, bing, bing.
Overall: Best wagon ever. Love it. Really powerful. Handles well. More understeer than I like.
#6829
Senior Moderator
Stupid Mercedes.
#6830
I drive a Subata.
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It better be good with $110k pricing tag.
That said, I love E63 AMG 4Matic Wagon.
That said, I love E63 AMG 4Matic Wagon.
#6831
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#6832
Senior Moderator
I think the C63 Estate looks better than the sister E63...
#6833
Senior Moderator
I mean, both sisters are hot...just that I prefer the look of the C more.
#6835
Senior Moderator
Nice segue...here's the battle of the titans: E63 AMG Estate vs. RS6...
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/E63...RS6-2013-07-08
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/E63...RS6-2013-07-08
#6836
I drive a Subata.
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Huh? E63 Wagon looks so much better than C63 Wagon.
Yummy has weird taste.
Yummy has weird taste.
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00TL-P3.2 (01-31-2014)
#6837
Senior Moderator
#6838
I drive a Subata.
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It looks good from the front, but the back just looks off. Too small I should say?
I don't know both are good looking wagons. I love wagons.
I don't know both are good looking wagons. I love wagons.
#6839
Moderator
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RS6 Avant > *
I like the AMG wagons but they look so plain compared to this beast:
BUT, the RS6 isn't available in the US...and it starts at $128k
I like the AMG wagons but they look so plain compared to this beast:
BUT, the RS6 isn't available in the US...and it starts at $128k
#6840
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
You guys are crazy.. I'd fuck all of them in each tailpipe and twice down the fuel mouth. Including CTS Vagon.