$45K for a used (potentially new) performance sedan...what would you look at?
08-09-2011, 06:33 PM
#521
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Bummer!
Good things come to those who wait. There's an R-Spec with your name on it out there somewhere. It'll find you at the right time
Good things come to those who wait. There's an R-Spec with your name on it out there somewhere. It'll find you at the right time
08-09-2011, 06:42 PM
#522
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Ouch. Hold off on the car until work is more stable!
08-09-2011, 07:48 PM
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Yeah I kind of expected this to happen. As an FTE of a large IT/management consulting firm I'm still earning a salary. I haven't been on the bench in years so I get a nice paid vacation for a couple of weeks.
08-12-2011, 11:51 AM
#524
uhhh ooohhh a 328i...that is a monster man...nothing Jap of that time on a similar budget could be even remotely as enjoyable.....rubbish like RX-7, Celica GT Four, Celica GTS, MR2, Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR-4, etc...
08-12-2011, 12:01 PM
#525
Fahrvergnügen'd
I would have bought a 300ZX Twin-Turbo if I could find one but they were either very nice and $10k or crappy and $3k.
08-12-2011, 12:34 PM
#526
I don't know where do you live, I'm in Seattle and 3 years ago I got a gorgeaous 2000 Celica GTS, immaculate indeed, for my stepson for about 6.5K...and it wasn't a particularly special deal, prices for similar cars were in that range.
I saw a '97 3000 gt VR-4 in very good condition for about 8K or so and I was VERY tempted to get it just for the fun of it.
We are talking about almost Ferrari F355 fast, definitely faster than a 348...
I quickly browsed Craigslist for my area and I found many Japanese models, in my opinion much more fun to drive than a 328 for 6-8K, high end well kept Preludes for $4-5K a dime a dozen. Miatas too, a dime a dozen....
Celica GT Four, MR2 in that price range too...
This 94 Miata has been kept in obscenely mint condition (1994), my stepson second car.....this pic is before tuning, when we just got it....$3K
I trust older Japanese cars more than German...
Unfortunately the 300 ZX is starting to become slowly a classic and prices are on the rise...I suspect the window of opportunity for the 3000 GT is rapidly closing....
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08-13-2011, 09:19 AM
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08-13-2011, 02:29 PM
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Celica GTS is not as fun as a 328i. The driving dynamics of it is totally different. Let alone the celica is fwd.
VR4? Sure nice car but not that easy to find plus you say its almost 355 fast? Its not. F355 was a low 13second car... VR4 was maybe around high 13 if not slower. Plus it was a porker.
Miata is a good choice but not much power. MR2 would be cool but I find them to be ugly.
Of course I personally thought he bought a great E36 for the price he paid. I would have done the same.
VR4? Sure nice car but not that easy to find plus you say its almost 355 fast? Its not. F355 was a low 13second car... VR4 was maybe around high 13 if not slower. Plus it was a porker.
Miata is a good choice but not much power. MR2 would be cool but I find them to be ugly.
Of course I personally thought he bought a great E36 for the price he paid. I would have done the same.
08-14-2011, 02:04 AM
#530
If you turn down any FWD because it is FWD I suspect you did not drive many "right" front drivers..
This Alfa 156...
...and its predecessor, the 155
....won several European Motorsport competitons in the 90's in front of the BMW 3 Series before Alfa Romeo withdrew from racing....so dismissing a FWD in general is simplistic at best...
Or you could get e Celica Turbo AWD....that is not fun either??
VR4? Sure nice car but not that easy to find plus you say its almost 355 fast? Its not. F355 was a low 13second car... VR4 was maybe around high 13 if not slower. Plus it was a porker.
Miata is a good choice but not much power.
Furthermore the Miatas are so easy and cheap to soup up.....my stepson's Miata with the Turbo kit should be at 180-200 horses....trust me it is a rocket...
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08-14-2011, 11:09 AM
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Figured thread was done with, OP already found the car he plans on buying. I hope he starts a new thread when/if he does decide to get it with a review.
Argument is done anyways. I am not about to reply to someone who thinks a celica has Lamborghini looks and compares a VR4 to a ferrari F355.
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08-14-2011, 11:15 AM
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Figured thread was done with, OP already found the car he plans on buying. I hope he starts a new thread when/if he does decide to get it with a review.
Argument is done anyways. I am not about to reply to someone who thinks a celica has Lamborghini looks and compares a VR4 to a ferrari F355.
Argument is done anyways. I am not about to reply to someone who thinks a celica has Lamborghini looks and compares a VR4 to a ferrari F355.
2) New car
08-14-2011, 11:17 AM
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Wish you the best for that as we all been there. Plus this is a chance for the inital demand die down and hopefully bigger discounts can be had on it in a couple of months.
08-14-2011, 12:37 PM
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What the shit is going on in here with talk of Celicas 
08-14-2011, 12:41 PM
#538
Figured thread was done with, OP already found the car he plans on buying. I hope he starts a new thread when/if he does decide to get it with a review.
Argument is done anyways. I am not about to reply to someone who thinks a celica has Lamborghini looks and compares a VR4 to a ferrari F355.
Argument is done anyways. I am not about to reply to someone who thinks a celica has Lamborghini looks and compares a VR4 to a ferrari F355.
...and it seems that I wasted my time (it is Car Talk after all isn't it??) with someone thinking that any FWD is crap and probably (surely) has never driven a VR4 nor does understand the difference between saying "almost F355 fast" and comparing a VR4 to a F355 as a whole....
08-14-2011, 12:53 PM
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08-14-2011, 01:33 PM
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Never said FWD sucked. Intergra Type-R was one of the best handling cars i have driven.
You'd shit your pants if i listed the cars i have driven in the past, which includes the celica GTS and VR4.
As they say, to each their own.
You'd shit your pants if i listed the cars i have driven in the past, which includes the celica GTS and VR4.
As they say, to each their own.
08-14-2011, 01:40 PM
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...and it seems that I wasted my time (it is Car Talk after all isn't it??) with someone thinking that any FWD is crap and probably (surely) has never driven a VR4 nor does understand the difference between saying "almost F355 fast" and comparing a VR4 to a F355 as a whole....
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08-14-2011, 02:02 PM
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I drive a Subata.
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^ Wow............................ 
08-15-2011, 10:30 AM
#545
Fahrvergnügen'd
Figured thread was done with, OP already found the car he plans on buying. I hope he starts a new thread when/if he does decide to get it with a review.
Argument is done anyways. I am not about to reply to someone who thinks a celica has Lamborghini looks and compares a VR4 to a ferrari F355.
Argument is done anyways. I am not about to reply to someone who thinks a celica has Lamborghini looks and compares a VR4 to a ferrari F355.
08-15-2011, 10:41 AM
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08-15-2011, 02:29 PM
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Back From The dead
08-15-2011, 03:25 PM
#548
OMG, Again I've missed out.. WTF!!
Celica is a gorgeous car?! FWD vs RWD in performance, really?
oooo he is from Doucheland, got it, cool beans, cool beans.
EDIT: I guess I'm surprised for a person with 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI in his garage to be soo ummmm ummm empty.
Celica is a gorgeous car?! FWD vs RWD in performance, really?
oooo he is from Doucheland, got it, cool beans, cool beans.
EDIT: I guess I'm surprised for a person with 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI in his garage to be soo ummmm ummm empty.
08-15-2011, 03:27 PM
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08-15-2011, 03:29 PM
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08-15-2011, 03:38 PM
#551
(granted it's a smart, same category, lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5S1N...eature=related
08-15-2011, 04:22 PM
#552
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So we went from Civics to fucking Celicas... Nice. I heard there is a four door RSX out in the near future, just get that. You'll be able to fit several strollers in there and ample head room!
08-15-2011, 04:33 PM
#553
The sizzle in the Steak
What in the sam blazes is going on in here?!?!?!?!
08-15-2011, 07:10 PM
#554
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In case this was due to all of the nonsense. There is a dealer in Kansas with one on eBay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R-SPE...#ht_5238wt_762
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R-SPE...#ht_5238wt_762
08-15-2011, 10:45 PM
#555
OMG, Again I've missed out.. WTF!!
Celica is a gorgeous car?! FWD vs RWD in performance, really?
oooo he is from Doucheland, got it, cool beans, cool beans.
EDIT: I guess I'm surprised for a person with 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI in his garage to be soo ummmm ummm empty.
Celica is a gorgeous car?! FWD vs RWD in performance, really?
oooo he is from Doucheland, got it, cool beans, cool beans.
EDIT: I guess I'm surprised for a person with 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI in his garage to be soo ummmm ummm empty.
Don't worry kid...I know that brain is optional for some forum members.....handling...let's see...
Vairano Handling Course, Italy one of handling testing ground in Europe for car makers.
The new Ford Focus RS500 (not imported in USA...and that doesn't surprise me...)
FWD, 345 HP, 6 speed manual
Lapped in 1:22:21, only 1,3 sec. slower than the M3 CLS (E46) which is 200 lbs lighter and with 15 additional horsepower.
The M3 E90 sedan (V8, 414 HP) and the M3 E92 coupe (the latter with a dual clutch transmission) are 1.5 sec. and 1.6 sec. faster, respectively, than the RS500.
...and the M3 is the benchmark for non-exotic car handling...
http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/va...ng_course.html
Ford Focus RS500
These are the pesky numbers, the rest is conversation, ill-informed opinions and brain farts...enough of thread hijacking....see ya...
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08-15-2011, 11:01 PM
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08-15-2011, 11:21 PM
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My first Avatar....
08-15-2011, 11:56 PM
#560
I drive a Subata.
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oh my god, that was so relevant.