Monthly Car Sales news
02-01-2012, 06:58 PM
#2721
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^ Can't wait for the redesign 
02-01-2012, 07:20 PM
#2722
02-01-2012, 09:01 PM
#2723
Senior Moderator
+3 on awaiting the TL redesign. Sorry, but the 4G was an abysmal failure. 3G TL>>>>>>>4G TL in every way other than lacking SH-AWD.
The RL sold only 33 copies. Who'd buy now with a new RL finally in the wings?
TSX wagon, my current Acura fave, is holding steady in sales. Right now, I'm officially and actively looking at it as my next daily. Drives nice for a 4-banger! Holding off until the new RL is intro'd in April.
The RL sold only 33 copies. Who'd buy now with a new RL finally in the wings?
TSX wagon, my current Acura fave, is holding steady in sales. Right now, I'm officially and actively looking at it as my next daily. Drives nice for a 4-banger! Holding off until the new RL is intro'd in April.
02-01-2012, 09:31 PM
#2724
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^ RL = Corporate sales. HondAcura execs would be my guess. Their demos are up so they trade it in for another RL.
02-01-2012, 10:09 PM
#2725
02-01-2012, 10:23 PM
#2726
even though the 4G TL MMC is quite handsome, the initial "beak-shock" was enough to demolish a ton of sales for the lifetime of this generation... the 5G should be interesting
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02-01-2012, 10:41 PM
#2727
My first Avatar....
But the "beak-shock" phenomena could be a real and deserved demolishing effect for the 4G.
The TL is SO far gone right now, to me, that the 5G will have to be a miracle of modern engineering to draw me back.
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02-05-2012, 10:12 AM
#2728
Burning Brakes
Save for the 2G TSX and the MDX Acura designs have been abysmal. The ZDX looks odd. The 4G TL 09-11 was ugly. The 12 MMC is more palatable. The 3G RL was ugly. The MMC made it look geriatric.
2009-12 have been a terrible period for Acura design language. I hope Honda realizes that exterior design matters just as importantly as what's under the hood and the interior. The ILX looks pretty good. The NSX is gorgeous. If the 4G RL looks anything like the ILX to a larger scale, it will be moderately successful. The same goes for the 5G TL. I would consider upgrading my 05 3G TL in a couple of years if that's the case.
2009-12 have been a terrible period for Acura design language. I hope Honda realizes that exterior design matters just as importantly as what's under the hood and the interior. The ILX looks pretty good. The NSX is gorgeous. If the 4G RL looks anything like the ILX to a larger scale, it will be moderately successful. The same goes for the 5G TL. I would consider upgrading my 05 3G TL in a couple of years if that's the case.
02-05-2012, 10:12 PM
#2729
Senior Moderator
Technical correction here: The RL is only on its second generation (2004-up). The MMC was for the 2009 MY. The new RL will be the 3G RL.
Opinion: Other than the beak, the MMC RL looked pretty butch. The beak ruined the front and did make it look like a Mercury.
Hopefully Acura has learned its lesson and will make it better-looking. We are now around two months from finding out.
Opinion: Other than the beak, the MMC RL looked pretty butch. The beak ruined the front and did make it look like a Mercury.
Hopefully Acura has learned its lesson and will make it better-looking. We are now around two months from finding out.
03-01-2012, 12:18 PM
#2730
Safety Car
Feb
American Honda Motor Co., Inc., today reported February 2012 monthly new-vehicle sales of 110,157, an increase of 7.8% over February 2011, based on the daily selling rate*. The Honda Division posted February 2012 sales of 98,899, an increase of 8.8% year-over-year.
In its second full month of sales, the all-new Honda CR-V eclipsed its previous February record with sales of 24,759, up 24.5% over last year’s total of 19,096 units. The all-new Civic continued to build momentum with sales of 27,087, up an impressive 36.0% compared to February 2011. The Accord posted January sales of 20,702, down 6.3% from the same period last year.
“The ultimate arbiter of a vehicle's success is how customers vote with their purchase decision, and customers are voting for Civic," said John Mendel, American Honda executive vice president of sales. "On top of the strong consumer support for the new Civic, we’re seeing tremendous demand for the all-new CR-V.”
The Acura Division’s February sales totaled 11,258, up 0.1% compared to February 2011, with 2 models registering strong sales increases. Sales of the TL sedan reached 3,211, up 26.0% from the same period last year, while TSX sales set a new February record of 3,373, a year-over-year increase of 15.9%.
*The daily selling rate (DSR) is calculated with 25 days for February 2012 and 24 days for February 2011. Year-to-date, the DSR is calculated with 49 days for 2012 and 48 days for 2011. All percentages reflect DSR.
03-01-2012, 12:26 PM
#2731
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Civic gaining traction? Three of my friends have purchased Elantras now (including Andrew). It blows that thing out of the water.
03-01-2012, 01:09 PM
#2733
AZ Community Team
CRV and Civic are doing very well, keeping the 4G CRV styling update mild was a good decision.
Wonder if they are transitioning down RL production?
Wonder if they are transitioning down RL production?
03-01-2012, 02:13 PM
#2735
The sizzle in the Steak
February’s Numbers
Acura – Up 0.1 percent to 11,258
Audi – Up 10 percent to 8,531
BMW – Up 29 percent to 21,204
Buick – Down 11 percent to 14,023
Cadillac – Down 27 percent to 11,505
Chevrolet – Up 6 percent to 151,197
Chrysler – Up 114 percent to 27,008
Dodge – Up 27 percent to 42,692
Fiat – 3,227
Ford – Up 14 percent to 172,207
GMC – Up 0.1 percent to 32,581
Honda – Up 9 percent to 98,899
Hyundai – Up 18 percent to 51,151
Infiniti – Up 1 percent to 9,239
Jaguar – Up 48 percent to 1,022
Jeep – Up 30 percent to 37,312
Kia – Up 37 percent to 45,038
Land Rover – Up 27 percent to 3,255
Lexus – Up 21 percent to 16,678
Lincoln - Up 16 percent to 6,912
Maserati – Up 20 percent to 191
Mazda – Up 32 percent to 25,651
Mercedes-Benz – Up 17 percent to 18,910
Mitsubishi – Down 31 percent to 4,736
MINI – Up 42 percent to 4,980
Nissan – Up 17 percent to 97,492
Porsche – Up 6 percent to 2,149
Ram – Up 15 percent to 23,282
Smart – Up 59 percent to 769
Subaru – Up 17 percent to 25,374
Suzuki – Up 48 percent to 2,425
Toyota (Includes Scion) – Up 12 percent to 142,745
Volkswagen – Up 42 percent to 30,703
Volvo – Up 10 percent to 5,263
BMW Group – Up 32 percent to 26,184
Chrysler – Up 40 percent to 133,521
Daimler – Up 18 percent to 19,683
Ford Motor Company – Up 14 percent to 179,119
General Motors – Up 1 percent to 209,306
American Honda – Up 8 percent to 110,157
Hyundai Group –
Jaguar Land Rover – Up 32 percent to 4,277
Nissan North America – Up 16 percent to 106,731
Toyota USA – Up 12 percent to 159,423
2011 YTD Numbers
Acura – Up 3 percent to 19,639
Audi – Up 15 percent to 17,885
BMW – Up 16 percent to 37,609
Buick – Down 17 percent to 24,231
Cadillac – Down 28 percent to 20,429
Chevrolet – Up3 percent to 275,061
Chrysler – Up 100 percent to 44,612
Dodge – Up 28 percent to 74,146
Fiat – 5,138
Ford – Up 12 percent to 303,796
GMC – Down 4 percent to 57,547
Honda – Up 9 percent to 173,527
Hyundai – Up 16 percent to 93,845
Infiniti – Down 3 percent to 16,035
Jaguar – Up 23 percent to 2,007
Jeep – Up 34 percent to 69,022
Kia – Up 33 percent to 80,555
Land Rover – Up 34 percent to 6,460
Lexus – Up 8 percent to 28,952
Lincoln - Up 5 percent to 12,033
Maserati – Up 26 percent to 345
Mazda – Up 48 percent to 49,647
Mercedes-Benz – Up 20 percent to 40,140
Mitsubishi –
MINI – Up 33 percent to 8,314
Nissan – Up 15 percent to 170,009
Porsche – Up 6 percent to 4,699
Ram – Up 25 percent to 41,752
Smart – Up 50 percent to 1,265
Subaru – Up 19 percent to 48,181
Suzuki – Down 7 percent to 3,930
Toyota (Includes Scion) – Up 10 percent to 255,011
Volkswagen – Up 45 percent to 58,030
Volvo – Up 7 percent to 9,724
BMW Group – Up 19 percent to 45,923
Chrysler – Up 42 percent to 234,670
Daimler – Up 21 percent to 41,413
Ford Motor Company – Up 11 percent to 315,829
General Motors – Down 2 percent to 377,268
American Honda – Up 9 percent to 193,166
Hyundai Group – Up 23 percent to 174,400
Jaguar Land Rover – Up 31 percent to 8,467
Nissan North America – Up 13 percent to 186,044
Toyota USA – Up 10 percent to 283,963
The Domestics
Chrysler had its best February since 2008, which also marks its 23rd consecutive month of gains. Granted, Chrysler saw some of its worst sales ever about two years ago, but its picture is still fairly bright. Chrysler division was the brightest spot, especially the 300 sedan, which nearly quintupled its February 2011 number. Jeep and Dodge also had pretty solid months overall.
Ford’s biggest gain came from its Focus, which topped 20,000 sales for the first time in a while. Sales were up 115 percent for the compact car, but that’s over an especially weak February 2011. The brand also nearly doubled Mustang sales, while its pickups gained as well. But nearly everything else in its portfolio saw a modest decline.
GM continues to suffer, although the automaker is quick to correctly point out that it had an especially strong start to 2011. The biggest decline came at Cadillac, although that brand is down two products compared to this time last year (DTS and STS). Buick also struggled; its new Verano’s 1,688 deliveries couldn’t offset the 2,574 Lucernes it sold last year (yes, we realize the Verano did not replace the Lucerne). Chevrolet was the automaker’s only bright spot last month.
The Asians
Honda seems to be turning around its mainstream product sales; redesigned Civic and CR-V models had strong months with sales up 36 and 25 percent, respectively. Acura’s sales were mostly flat overall, and it sold just 56 ZDXs and 28 RLs.
Hyundai saw its best-ever February, and it says that retail sales were up 29 percent, while overall sales were up 18 percent. Sonata remains its volume player, but nearly every one of its products boasted an improved month.
Kia finished its 18th-consecutive month of record-breaking sales on strong numbers for nearly all of its products. A small decline in Sportage and Sorento demand was offset by more than twice as many Optima deliveries (up to 11,558).
Mazda’s financial woes have made the news lately, but things might turn around quickly if it keeps breaking sales records. It posted its best February since 1994 on strong demand for its Mazda3 and Mazda6, which were up 40 and 80 percent, respectively.
Nissan posted its best-ever February on strong demand for a number of its products, but its biggest standout was definitely the Altima. Although a redesigned model will debut in a month at the New York show, Nissan delivered 58 percent more Altimas last month than they did last year. In fact, Nissan’s midsizer outsold the Chevrolet Silverado.
Toyota’s two divisions are posting a turnaround thanks to their mainstream sedans. At Toyota, demand was up more than 50 percent for Yaris and Avalon, while Camry surged ahead of rivals to become the country’s second-best selling vehicle last month. Lexus saw demand increase 560 percent for its redesigned GS, which was its second-best selling passenger car. Trucks and crossovers were down for both divisions, however.
The Europeans
Audi once again broke a monthly record, its 14th consecutive month to do so. Demand was up for Q5, A6 and A3, but down slightly for A4 and A8. Q7 slid nearly 50 percent.
February was BMW’s best such month in five years, and its redesigned 3-Series provided the biggest boost (up 66 percent). MINI was an even stronger performer with sales up nearly 50 percent.
Chrysler’s Fiat brand had its best month since relaunching here about a year ago.
Jaguar bounced back strongly last month on increased demand for its XF and XK models; XF sales nearly doubled, while XK sales nearly tripled, although volume for both models remains low.
VW had its best February in nearly 40 years, with its Passat boasting its best month in more than a decade. While VW is still a long way off from its goal of selling 800,000 cars annually (combined with Audi), it still had plenty of reason to celelbrate last month. Passat’s 8,189 deliveries mark a comical 11,434 percent improvement over last year, when 71 leftover outgoing models were sold.
Acura – Up 0.1 percent to 11,258
Audi – Up 10 percent to 8,531
BMW – Up 29 percent to 21,204
Buick – Down 11 percent to 14,023
Cadillac – Down 27 percent to 11,505
Chevrolet – Up 6 percent to 151,197
Chrysler – Up 114 percent to 27,008
Dodge – Up 27 percent to 42,692
Fiat – 3,227
Ford – Up 14 percent to 172,207
GMC – Up 0.1 percent to 32,581
Honda – Up 9 percent to 98,899
Hyundai – Up 18 percent to 51,151
Infiniti – Up 1 percent to 9,239
Jaguar – Up 48 percent to 1,022
Jeep – Up 30 percent to 37,312
Kia – Up 37 percent to 45,038
Land Rover – Up 27 percent to 3,255
Lexus – Up 21 percent to 16,678
Lincoln - Up 16 percent to 6,912
Maserati – Up 20 percent to 191
Mazda – Up 32 percent to 25,651
Mercedes-Benz – Up 17 percent to 18,910
Mitsubishi – Down 31 percent to 4,736
MINI – Up 42 percent to 4,980
Nissan – Up 17 percent to 97,492
Porsche – Up 6 percent to 2,149
Ram – Up 15 percent to 23,282
Smart – Up 59 percent to 769
Subaru – Up 17 percent to 25,374
Suzuki – Up 48 percent to 2,425
Toyota (Includes Scion) – Up 12 percent to 142,745
Volkswagen – Up 42 percent to 30,703
Volvo – Up 10 percent to 5,263
BMW Group – Up 32 percent to 26,184
Chrysler – Up 40 percent to 133,521
Daimler – Up 18 percent to 19,683
Ford Motor Company – Up 14 percent to 179,119
General Motors – Up 1 percent to 209,306
American Honda – Up 8 percent to 110,157
Hyundai Group –
Jaguar Land Rover – Up 32 percent to 4,277
Nissan North America – Up 16 percent to 106,731
Toyota USA – Up 12 percent to 159,423
2011 YTD Numbers
Acura – Up 3 percent to 19,639
Audi – Up 15 percent to 17,885
BMW – Up 16 percent to 37,609
Buick – Down 17 percent to 24,231
Cadillac – Down 28 percent to 20,429
Chevrolet – Up3 percent to 275,061
Chrysler – Up 100 percent to 44,612
Dodge – Up 28 percent to 74,146
Fiat – 5,138
Ford – Up 12 percent to 303,796
GMC – Down 4 percent to 57,547
Honda – Up 9 percent to 173,527
Hyundai – Up 16 percent to 93,845
Infiniti – Down 3 percent to 16,035
Jaguar – Up 23 percent to 2,007
Jeep – Up 34 percent to 69,022
Kia – Up 33 percent to 80,555
Land Rover – Up 34 percent to 6,460
Lexus – Up 8 percent to 28,952
Lincoln - Up 5 percent to 12,033
Maserati – Up 26 percent to 345
Mazda – Up 48 percent to 49,647
Mercedes-Benz – Up 20 percent to 40,140
Mitsubishi –
MINI – Up 33 percent to 8,314
Nissan – Up 15 percent to 170,009
Porsche – Up 6 percent to 4,699
Ram – Up 25 percent to 41,752
Smart – Up 50 percent to 1,265
Subaru – Up 19 percent to 48,181
Suzuki – Down 7 percent to 3,930
Toyota (Includes Scion) – Up 10 percent to 255,011
Volkswagen – Up 45 percent to 58,030
Volvo – Up 7 percent to 9,724
BMW Group – Up 19 percent to 45,923
Chrysler – Up 42 percent to 234,670
Daimler – Up 21 percent to 41,413
Ford Motor Company – Up 11 percent to 315,829
General Motors – Down 2 percent to 377,268
American Honda – Up 9 percent to 193,166
Hyundai Group – Up 23 percent to 174,400
Jaguar Land Rover – Up 31 percent to 8,467
Nissan North America – Up 13 percent to 186,044
Toyota USA – Up 10 percent to 283,963
The Domestics
Chrysler had its best February since 2008, which also marks its 23rd consecutive month of gains. Granted, Chrysler saw some of its worst sales ever about two years ago, but its picture is still fairly bright. Chrysler division was the brightest spot, especially the 300 sedan, which nearly quintupled its February 2011 number. Jeep and Dodge also had pretty solid months overall.
Ford’s biggest gain came from its Focus, which topped 20,000 sales for the first time in a while. Sales were up 115 percent for the compact car, but that’s over an especially weak February 2011. The brand also nearly doubled Mustang sales, while its pickups gained as well. But nearly everything else in its portfolio saw a modest decline.
GM continues to suffer, although the automaker is quick to correctly point out that it had an especially strong start to 2011. The biggest decline came at Cadillac, although that brand is down two products compared to this time last year (DTS and STS). Buick also struggled; its new Verano’s 1,688 deliveries couldn’t offset the 2,574 Lucernes it sold last year (yes, we realize the Verano did not replace the Lucerne). Chevrolet was the automaker’s only bright spot last month.
The Asians
Honda seems to be turning around its mainstream product sales; redesigned Civic and CR-V models had strong months with sales up 36 and 25 percent, respectively. Acura’s sales were mostly flat overall, and it sold just 56 ZDXs and 28 RLs.
Hyundai saw its best-ever February, and it says that retail sales were up 29 percent, while overall sales were up 18 percent. Sonata remains its volume player, but nearly every one of its products boasted an improved month.
Kia finished its 18th-consecutive month of record-breaking sales on strong numbers for nearly all of its products. A small decline in Sportage and Sorento demand was offset by more than twice as many Optima deliveries (up to 11,558).
Mazda’s financial woes have made the news lately, but things might turn around quickly if it keeps breaking sales records. It posted its best February since 1994 on strong demand for its Mazda3 and Mazda6, which were up 40 and 80 percent, respectively.
Nissan posted its best-ever February on strong demand for a number of its products, but its biggest standout was definitely the Altima. Although a redesigned model will debut in a month at the New York show, Nissan delivered 58 percent more Altimas last month than they did last year. In fact, Nissan’s midsizer outsold the Chevrolet Silverado.
Toyota’s two divisions are posting a turnaround thanks to their mainstream sedans. At Toyota, demand was up more than 50 percent for Yaris and Avalon, while Camry surged ahead of rivals to become the country’s second-best selling vehicle last month. Lexus saw demand increase 560 percent for its redesigned GS, which was its second-best selling passenger car. Trucks and crossovers were down for both divisions, however.
The Europeans
Audi once again broke a monthly record, its 14th consecutive month to do so. Demand was up for Q5, A6 and A3, but down slightly for A4 and A8. Q7 slid nearly 50 percent.
February was BMW’s best such month in five years, and its redesigned 3-Series provided the biggest boost (up 66 percent). MINI was an even stronger performer with sales up nearly 50 percent.
Chrysler’s Fiat brand had its best month since relaunching here about a year ago.
Jaguar bounced back strongly last month on increased demand for its XF and XK models; XF sales nearly doubled, while XK sales nearly tripled, although volume for both models remains low.
VW had its best February in nearly 40 years, with its Passat boasting its best month in more than a decade. While VW is still a long way off from its goal of selling 800,000 cars annually (combined with Audi), it still had plenty of reason to celelbrate last month. Passat’s 8,189 deliveries mark a comical 11,434 percent improvement over last year, when 71 leftover outgoing models were sold.
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03-01-2012, 02:14 PM
#2736
The sizzle in the Steak
Acura and Infiniti are having some serious trouble.
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Mitsubishi
03-01-2012, 04:24 PM
#2737
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What is wrong with Infiniti? I mean some of the models are getting old, but they are pretty much what people want...no?
RWD
Powerful engines and performance that can match pretty much everyone in the market
Relatively cheaper than BMW/MB/Audi
Handsome design
Decent interior
RWD
Powerful engines and performance that can match pretty much everyone in the market
Relatively cheaper than BMW/MB/Audi
Handsome design
Decent interior
03-01-2012, 05:21 PM
#2738
Honda Fanboy
What is wrong with Infiniti? I mean some of the models are getting old, but they are pretty much what people want...no?
RWD
Powerful engines and performance that can match pretty much everyone in the market
Relatively cheaper than BMW/MB/Audi
Handsome design
Decent interior
RWD
Powerful engines and performance that can match pretty much everyone in the market
Relatively cheaper than BMW/MB/Audi
Handsome design
Decent interior
Acura yet they continue to sell thousands less despite their recent sales increases hitting record sales for the brand.
03-01-2012, 05:28 PM
#2739
03-01-2012, 05:28 PM
#2740
Moderator
Infiniti – Down 3 percent to 16,035 YTD
Not really comparable.
03-01-2012, 05:44 PM
#2741
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
If you google up Audi's sale numbers that are broken down into product models, they are selling a lot of mid to high end models, which probably give them loads of profit out of the sales.
03-01-2012, 05:56 PM
#2742
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What is wrong with Infiniti? I mean some of the models are getting old, but they are pretty much what people want...no?
RWD
Powerful engines and performance that can match pretty much everyone in the market
Relatively cheaper than BMW/MB/Audi
Handsome design
Decent interior
RWD
Powerful engines and performance that can match pretty much everyone in the market
Relatively cheaper than BMW/MB/Audi
Handsome design
Decent interior
I feel the M is an outstanding car, but lacks the brand cache of the 5er and the E-class.
03-01-2012, 06:01 PM
#2743
The sizzle in the Steak
What is wrong with Infiniti? I mean some of the models are getting old, but they are pretty much what people want...no?
RWD
Powerful engines and performance that can match pretty much everyone in the market
Relatively cheaper than BMW/MB/Audi
Polarizing designs -
One of the lowest of the group in terms of interior design
Horrible fuel efficiency across the board
RWD
Powerful engines and performance that can match pretty much everyone in the market
Relatively cheaper than BMW/MB/Audi
Polarizing designs -
One of the lowest of the group in terms of interior design
Horrible fuel efficiency across the board
03-01-2012, 06:02 PM
#2744
The sizzle in the Steak
03-01-2012, 06:51 PM
#2745
Honda Fanboy
03-01-2012, 06:58 PM
#2746
Honda Fanboy
An overwhelming majority of Audi's sales come from it's entry level models. For the month of February, 6,061 out of 8,531 sales were from the A3, A4, A5, and Q5. That's not a bad thing because these are bread and butter products and all the sales of luxury brands are skewed in this direction.
03-01-2012, 07:02 PM
#2747
Moderator
03-01-2012, 07:13 PM
#2748
Honda Fanboy
Even if it was pent up demand, that would mean that it was good enough for these buyers to wait for it to become available, despite so many other cars in its class being available. I doubt many people here would agree with that.
03-01-2012, 07:14 PM
#2749
Team Owner
Without brand recognition you can't sell cars. Blame the marketing departments
03-01-2012, 07:22 PM
#2750
Moderator
03-01-2012, 07:25 PM
#2751
Senior Moderator
I'm sure the Civic is a fine car. IMO those sales are mostly a reflection of name recongnition that has to do with reliability and fuel economy. I'd personally never buy one because it's boring as sin and has a terrible interior but it's obvious many don't feel that way or simply dont care. I'm a bit surprised but the Civic name carries some cache.
Not at all surprised that the CR-V is a hit but that number has to be close to a record? Outside of the 5AT they got it about perfect IMO.
Not at all surprised that the CR-V is a hit but that number has to be close to a record? Outside of the 5AT they got it about perfect IMO.
03-01-2012, 08:11 PM
#2752
Team Owner
Source http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/pag...autosales.html
I'm surprised to see Altima biting at the heals of Camry. Altima 58% increase over last year. :woah: Altima is getting a refresh next year, are they giving away the 2012s?
I'm surprised to see Altima biting at the heals of Camry. Altima 58% increase over last year. :woah: Altima is getting a refresh next year, are they giving away the 2012s?
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03-01-2012, 09:34 PM
#2753
Burning Brakes
Yeah, that was 2006 if I remember correctly. It's never come close to it before or since. The 4G TL has gotten a bad lot in life, launched into the teeth of the recession with dubious styling in 2009. 2010 they over-reacted and cut production to ridiculous levels and with 8 trim levels dealers never had anything on the lot to sell. 2011 was a short production year as they retooled for the early MMC 2012. And then the 2012 was hampered by the earthquake, tsunami and finally the flooding in Thailand. What a star-crossed life it's led.
03-01-2012, 10:34 PM
#2754
No, I definitely don't think it is that. If anything, their designs are complemented in almost every review I read. They have tolerable grill designs unlike the complaints other get:
Acura: buck tooth beaver
Audi: big mouth bass fish
BMW: kidney beans anyone?
Lexus: predator grill
Acura: buck tooth beaver
Audi: big mouth bass fish
BMW: kidney beans anyone?
Lexus: predator grill
03-01-2012, 10:43 PM
#2755
Senior Moderator
Interesting point from Jeff at TOV
http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...tem_id=1044014
http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...tem_id=1044014
But industry research firm TrueCar.com says incentives on the Civic have more than quintupled since its debut last April to almost $1,900 per car in January, suggesting sales are being driven by attractive deals.
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ttribe (03-02-2012)
03-01-2012, 11:03 PM
#2756
Ditto here.
There's really nothing out there that I'm gaga over like I was when the 3G came out. I'm waiting on the 5G TL (possibly a latter-half-of-2013 release? Not sure), but I don't know if I'll be able to wait that long. In the meantime, cars like the Cadillac ATS are really turning my attention to other brands.
Acura's going to be bringing this new TL out when several major competitors are bringing out something in the same price range. Here's to hoping they knock it out of the park. Give me something that has 280+ hp, 40 mpg, and can run for 150-200k miles. See? I'm not asking for much.
There's really nothing out there that I'm gaga over like I was when the 3G came out. I'm waiting on the 5G TL (possibly a latter-half-of-2013 release? Not sure), but I don't know if I'll be able to wait that long. In the meantime, cars like the Cadillac ATS are really turning my attention to other brands.
Acura's going to be bringing this new TL out when several major competitors are bringing out something in the same price range. Here's to hoping they knock it out of the park. Give me something that has 280+ hp, 40 mpg, and can run for 150-200k miles. See? I'm not asking for much.
03-02-2012, 12:28 AM
#2757
03-02-2012, 07:32 AM
#2758
Safety Car
For Those Interested in Audi's #s
TSX 3,373 +15.9%
Regal 2,636 -28.9%
IS 2,085 +.7%
1series 605 -30%
A3 469 +21.5%
3series 8,103 +66.3%
Cclass 5,240 +17%
LaCrosse 5,228 +20.8%
G 4,334 +7.2%; coupe 1,171 -19.1%
TL 3,211 +26%
ES 2,997 +10.7%
A4 2,719 -1.8%
MKZ 2,487 +40.1%
5series 4,402 -4%
Eclass 4,206 0%
GS 2,396 +559.1%
M 1,150 -2.4%
A6 972 +63.6%
MKS 857 +50.9%
RL 28 -84%
7series 1,123 +1.3%
Sclass 793 +20.3%
LS 516 -29.8%
A8 323 -10.5%
TownCar 155 -83.6%
RX 5,792 -15.2%
x3 2,831 +42.5%
Q5 1,754 +14%
GLK 1,630 -12%
RDX 1,007 -28.1%
EX 314 -38.1%
Enclave 4,167 -19.8%
MDX 3,583 -10.5%
Mclass 3,408 +77%
x5 3,224 +21.8%
MKX 2,169 +32.5%
FX 1,108 +4%
GX 703 -35.8%
X5 502 +24.3%
ZDX 56 -72.8%
Versa 10,190 -3.7%
Sonic 7,900
Accent 5,806
Fiesta 5,518 -12%
Fit 4,227 -3.4%
Yaris 3,611 +78.1%
Rio 3,598
Golf 2,753 +11.4%
2 2,701 +210%
SX4 1,214 +54%
Civic 27,087 +36%
Focus 23,350 +114.6%
Corolla 22,148 -17.8%
Cruze 20,427 +10.1%
Elantra 13,820
Jetta 12,838 +2%
3 11,275 +39.6%
Sentra 10,605 -15.8%
Impreza 6,334 +125.4%
Forte 5,706
Caliber 1,847 -46%
Camry 34,542 +26.9%
Altima 32,953 +58.4%
Fusion 21,773 -5.8%
Accord 20,702 -6.3%
Malibu 19,987 +4.7%
Sonata 17,425
Optima 11,558
200 9,717 +315%
Passat 8,189 +14,523.2%
Avenger 6,570 +89%
6 5,101 +79.7%
Legacy 3,614 +11.5%
Kizashi 620 +77%
Impala 17,851 +15.7%
300 7,670 +480%
Charger 7,324 +124%
Maxima 6,597 +24.1%
Taurus 4,329 -23%
Avalon 3,497 +65.7%
Azera 13
Mustang 7,351 +98.9%
Camaro 6,923 +10.9%
Challenger 3,669 +14%
Genesis 2,512
370z 553 -3.2%
RX-8 13 -81%
Prius 20,589 +46%
Volt 1,023 +264.1%
Insight 773 -56.9%
CR-Z 466 -59%
LEAF 478 +613.4%
OutBack 8,762 +10.2%
Venza 2,670 +.5%
CrossTour 1,070 -39.9%
Veloster 3,240
Juke 2,947 -1.3%
Soul 10,876
xB 1,608 +4.7%
Cube 687 -69.4%
CR-V 24,759 +24.5%
Escape 18,666 +3.7%
Equinox 17,851 +15.7%
Rogue 13,423 +17.5%
Rav4 12,677 -3.1%
Forester 5,565 -12.1%
Tucson 3,736
Sportage 3,410
Tiguan 2,280 +5%
CX-7 2,106 -10.6%
Grand Vitara 434 +16%
Edge 10,535 +3.9%
Explorer 10,440 +8.1%
Pilot 8,879 +3.6%
Sorento 8,386
HighLander 8,155 -9.2%
Traverse 7,966 -16.4%
Murano 5,045 -4%
SantaFe 3,864
Durango 3,435 +26%
CX-9 2,030 -29.4%
Toureg 723 +65.1%
Tribeca 177 -20.6%
Caravan 12,668 +20%
Town & Country 9,621 +22%
Odyssey 9,566 +5%
Sienna 7,652 -16.6%
Flex 2,012 -14.5%
5 1,519 -11.2%
Sedona 1,504
Quest 1,206 +45%
Routan 659 -7.2%
Regal 2,636 -28.9%
IS 2,085 +.7%
1series 605 -30%
A3 469 +21.5%
3series 8,103 +66.3%
Cclass 5,240 +17%
LaCrosse 5,228 +20.8%
G 4,334 +7.2%; coupe 1,171 -19.1%
TL 3,211 +26%
ES 2,997 +10.7%
A4 2,719 -1.8%
MKZ 2,487 +40.1%
5series 4,402 -4%
Eclass 4,206 0%
GS 2,396 +559.1%
M 1,150 -2.4%
A6 972 +63.6%
MKS 857 +50.9%
RL 28 -84%
7series 1,123 +1.3%
Sclass 793 +20.3%
LS 516 -29.8%
A8 323 -10.5%
TownCar 155 -83.6%
RX 5,792 -15.2%
x3 2,831 +42.5%
Q5 1,754 +14%
GLK 1,630 -12%
RDX 1,007 -28.1%
EX 314 -38.1%
Enclave 4,167 -19.8%
MDX 3,583 -10.5%
Mclass 3,408 +77%
x5 3,224 +21.8%
MKX 2,169 +32.5%
FX 1,108 +4%
GX 703 -35.8%
X5 502 +24.3%
ZDX 56 -72.8%
Versa 10,190 -3.7%
Sonic 7,900
Accent 5,806
Fiesta 5,518 -12%
Fit 4,227 -3.4%
Yaris 3,611 +78.1%
Rio 3,598
Golf 2,753 +11.4%
2 2,701 +210%
SX4 1,214 +54%
Civic 27,087 +36%
Focus 23,350 +114.6%
Corolla 22,148 -17.8%
Cruze 20,427 +10.1%
Elantra 13,820
Jetta 12,838 +2%
3 11,275 +39.6%
Sentra 10,605 -15.8%
Impreza 6,334 +125.4%
Forte 5,706
Caliber 1,847 -46%
Camry 34,542 +26.9%
Altima 32,953 +58.4%
Fusion 21,773 -5.8%
Accord 20,702 -6.3%
Malibu 19,987 +4.7%
Sonata 17,425
Optima 11,558
200 9,717 +315%
Passat 8,189 +14,523.2%
Avenger 6,570 +89%
6 5,101 +79.7%
Legacy 3,614 +11.5%
Kizashi 620 +77%
Impala 17,851 +15.7%
300 7,670 +480%
Charger 7,324 +124%
Maxima 6,597 +24.1%
Taurus 4,329 -23%
Avalon 3,497 +65.7%
Azera 13
Mustang 7,351 +98.9%
Camaro 6,923 +10.9%
Challenger 3,669 +14%
Genesis 2,512
370z 553 -3.2%
RX-8 13 -81%
Prius 20,589 +46%
Volt 1,023 +264.1%
Insight 773 -56.9%
CR-Z 466 -59%
LEAF 478 +613.4%
OutBack 8,762 +10.2%
Venza 2,670 +.5%
CrossTour 1,070 -39.9%
Veloster 3,240
Juke 2,947 -1.3%
Soul 10,876
xB 1,608 +4.7%
Cube 687 -69.4%
CR-V 24,759 +24.5%
Escape 18,666 +3.7%
Equinox 17,851 +15.7%
Rogue 13,423 +17.5%
Rav4 12,677 -3.1%
Forester 5,565 -12.1%
Tucson 3,736
Sportage 3,410
Tiguan 2,280 +5%
CX-7 2,106 -10.6%
Grand Vitara 434 +16%
Edge 10,535 +3.9%
Explorer 10,440 +8.1%
Pilot 8,879 +3.6%
Sorento 8,386
HighLander 8,155 -9.2%
Traverse 7,966 -16.4%
Murano 5,045 -4%
SantaFe 3,864
Durango 3,435 +26%
CX-9 2,030 -29.4%
Toureg 723 +65.1%
Tribeca 177 -20.6%
Caravan 12,668 +20%
Town & Country 9,621 +22%
Odyssey 9,566 +5%
Sienna 7,652 -16.6%
Flex 2,012 -14.5%
5 1,519 -11.2%
Sedona 1,504
Quest 1,206 +45%
Routan 659 -7.2%
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TSX69 (03-02-2012)
03-02-2012, 09:13 AM
#2760
TSX is still going strong despite being closer to 5th year now.
Nissan group is going to surpass Honda. unless Honda radically redesign Accord and Civic. who know RDX sales may save Acura but than there is JX.
Nissan only has to do Sentra right. Maxima at 6600 is near record level now
Kia-Hyundai is stagnating. despite being newer models and all advanced technology utilized with generous equipment levels.
Nissan group is going to surpass Honda. unless Honda radically redesign Accord and Civic. who know RDX sales may save Acura but than there is JX.
Nissan only has to do Sentra right. Maxima at 6600 is near record level now
Kia-Hyundai is stagnating. despite being newer models and all advanced technology utilized with generous equipment levels.