At Acura??? First time for everything I guess

 

 

The projection is for 7000/year. Interestingly, Drew at TOV posted the production schedule: "only 210 were produced in November and 300 in December. Honda of Canada is just now starting to ramp up this model with monthly builds of 780 in January and 1080 in February and March."

Its also worth remembering that most dealers have received one Demo unit that they are not allowed to sell. This would have come out of these initial builds.

 

Hyundai posted sales gains over January of 2009.

Accent - 5,747 (up from 3,560)
Sonata - 5,306 (down from 8,508)
Elantra - 7,690 (up from 3,307)
Santa Fe 7,204 (up from 5,024)
Azera - 269 (down from 294)
Tucson - 2,216 (up from 974)
Veracruz - 401 (down from 1,177)
Genesis - 1,670 (up from 1,056)

I omitted the Entourage and Tiburon as both models have been discontinued and sold no units in January.

 

^^ Hyundai killed their minivan already?

Hyundai's effort in the minivan category was very short lived.

 

The Kia Sedona on which it was based was outselling the Entourage 5:1 and over the last two years they only sold 11,000 of the Entourage. I guess it just wasn't making business sense.

 

7,000 a year sales goal or production goal? As far as I know, the sales goal has been set at 6,000.

 

Not sure, it could be 6000, gotta go back an look again..

edit to add: Yup, looks like 6K is the number. Thanks

 

good for buick, and toyota did terribly.

 

Wait till February numbers come out - sales numbers will fall off the cliff for them, even if they get the pedal issue sorted out.

 

^^^Lexus is still selling well though...

 

We'll see how the ES comes out of this, which while not in the recall at this point, has had reported issues.

I just hope for Toyta's sake, there's not some "hit" piece in the works from 60 Minutes. That was the undoing of Audi.

 

Well, I think Lexus is starting to get affected.....check out these numbers:

The ES went from 6531 last month to 2,923 this month.
The IS went from 4153 last month to 2,203 this month.

 

Yeah, but they are also older designs now. The RX and LX still have very strong sales in proportion to everybody else...

 

And it looks like the majority of entry lux models suffered 30-50% sales declines from Dec. 09 to Jan. 10...not just the ES and IS.

Could the toyota recalls be affecting the ES and IS? Possibly, but its more likely due to the segment as a whole, not the recalls.

I haven't been in an IS, but isn't the pedal completely different, as in floor hinged?

 

I have to agree, these models have aged and are due for a makeover.

 

I was comparing Dec 2009 against Jan 2010. In only one month, they went down by a lot. I mean, when you look at Nov 2009 numbers, and compare them against Dec 2009, the difference was much smaller.


Ya, , the G, A4, TL, even the 3 series all went down significantly. But still not as severe as the IS and ES.

I don't think Lexus vehicles are part of the recall. And I also thought that people don't really associate Lexus with Toyota. I doubt that the drop is due to this massive recall....hmm.....

 

My daughter drives an 09 IS250. I've driven it many times and actually checked out the pedals after all this stuff hit the fan. It hinges from above.

I read in a Toyota statement where they were saying that IF the mat came unhinged, and IF the mat nugged up just the right amount (not too much and not too little), and IF the driver mashed the pedal to the floor, THEN the pedal MIGHT be able to snap behind the lip of the mat and get stuck behind it.

Sounded like they didn't really know what was causing all this at the time and just came up with this highly unlikely scenerio to explain it. I never thought for a second that could happen and was quite comfortable letting my 17 year old daughter continue driving without worries. Just told her to slap the stick forward to Neutral if anything unlikely like that ever happened.

 

My pathfinder hinges from above also...wouldn't the "floormat" issue be the same with pretty much ANY car, whether the pedal is hinged above or below?

It just sounded like they were fishing for answers before the pedal recall, and the floormats were one of the random issues that COULD cause a problem, however unlikely.

But like you said, just jam the tranny into neutral if anything liek that happened. I dont remember the article about the cop and his family who died saying anything about jamming the tranny into neutral...it just said he stood on the brake pedal and parking brake.

 

I read that article too and remember thinking the same thing. What a shame. Panic can mess with your head just when you need it to be the clearest. It seems like such an obvious first step, but I suppose no one can be sure what they will do until they are in the situation. That's why I've made my girls practice it a couple times on the road while they were driving. Want them to know you don't even have to look down. No gate or button to deal with from Drive to Neutral, just slap it forward and then deal with the rest.

 

Audi sales surpass BMW by 8000 vehicles in January world wide basis. Once new A8/A6/A1/A7 keep rolling BMW is never going to catch up.


http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...atestheadlines

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

 

I guess global sales are quite different from the US, where most Audi models trail BMW badly.

 

The links you posted do not support your post.
BMW projects 1.3+ million sales in 2010, while Audi is "on target to reach" 1 million sales in 2010, according to the two articles you linked.
Audi's January sales may be better than BMW's, but BMW is on track to have about 30% more sales for the year.

 

SSFTSX still isn't on everyone's ignore list yet? Who knew...

 

1.3m is BMW group not BMW. how is BMW going to increase 30%. just by 5 series alone? 7 series and 3 series are going down hill.

 

No, according to the articles you linked, BMW is projecting that it will sell 30% more cars than Audi this year-- 1.3 million to Audi's 1 million.

Where is support for your assertions that Audis will start to roll, or that the BMW 7- and 3- series are going downhill? Neither of those assertions is mentioned in the articles YOU linked.

 

^ Please see Costco's post.

 

It says BMW not BMW brand is going to sell 1.3million. and that is pretty tall order. only $70k sales in January. and this rate will certainly plunge in US/China as people will be waiting for new 5 series towards the end of year. and as 3 series and 7 gets older. there is practicallly no chance of it recovering this year. Next year Audi will deal with it with new A8/A7/A6/A1/A3 sedan/Q7 and plethora of diesel and hybrid models along with RS and S versions.

 

Yes, I understand your point-- was just hoping he'd bought a clue regarding all the he posts.

 

Toyota Recall: Ford, Honda & Hyundai Gain the Most

Ford, Hyundai, and Honda—not GM or Chrysler, as some sources have claimed—look to be making the most conquests from customers who've had it with Toyota due to recall uncertainties.

In looking at the market share that Toyota has lost, that's what the pricing intelligence service TrueCar found. According to the company's data, a full 25 percent of customers migrating from Toyota are going to go to Ford or Honda vehicles, respectively. Hyundai is another big winner, close behind at 20 percent.

It's likely not coincidencal that both of these brands currently carry the reputation for reliability that Toyota has long enjoyed.

TrueCar, which gets a lot of traffic from shoppers looking to get a run-down of the numbers as they close the deal on a new vehicle, saw a drop in traffic of about 30 percent for Toyota vehicles following the recall. Traffic for models covered under the recall fell by 46 percent, TrueCar Reports, while it was down 16 percent for other models. Traffic rose the most overall for Hyundai, up 15 percent, post-recall.

Up close, TrueCar looked at both the 2010 Toyota Corolla and its competitive set before and after, and at the 2010 Toyota Camry before and after. Looking at Web traffic before and after, the Kia Forte saw the largest gain in interest, with traffic up by a third; the Hyundai Elantra also did well, with traffic up nearly 26 percent. Also doing especially well were the Ford Focus (+14 percent) and the Honda Civic (+13 percent). The only vehicle in that class that didn't see a gain in traffic over this time was the 2010 Nissan Sentra. Prices for any of these vehicles didn't change by more than two percent over the same period.

In the Camry's set, the firm saw that the 2010 Ford Fusion and Hyundai Sonata both saw huge jumps in traffic (up more than 26 percent), while the 2010 Honda Accord and Nissan Altima both got double-digit boosts.

TrueCar sources actual sales transaction data covering more than 43 percent of all new vehicles sold in the U.S., which as of January includes more than 300,000 vehicles.

You'll find full access to TrueCar market-data numbers here at TheCarConnection.com as you browse our new-car reviews, specs, and prices.

Today another site, CarGurus, revealed that search volumes for the ten days directly after the main Toyota recall announcements on January 26 were down between 6 and 16 percent, with models from Ford and Chevrolet up the most. Among the models CarGurus reported on, search volume for the 2010 Toyota RAV4 was down the most—more than 16 percent—with the 2010 Honda CR-V and Ford Escape seeing the greatest increases in search volume. CarGurus' data however conflicted with that of TrueCar, showing that several GM products were seeing increased search volume.

 

^ you can't really equate web traffic with sales - we'll have to wait another 2 weeks to see the real Feb sales numbers.

 

http://hondanews.com/categories/1097/releases/5388

American Honda Motor Co., Inc., posted February sales of 80,671, an increase of 12.7 percent when compared to February 2009 results of 71,575, the company announced today. American Honda year-to-date sales of 148,150 represent an increase of 8.2 percent based on the daily selling rate*.

Honda Division posted February sales of 71,732, an increase of 12.2 percent versus February 2009. The Accord lineup resulted in the most sales of any Honda nameplate for the month with 22,456, an increase of 40.6 percent. Additional models with year-over-year sales increases included the Civic, up 5.0 percent to 16,471; and the Odyssey, up 11.4 percent to 7,452.

"A year ago the economy and our industry were at a low point marked with great uncertainty," said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda. "While we remain cautious, we're happy to see customers actively seeking Honda products like the all-new Accord Crosstour."

Acura Division sales increased 16.7 percent to 8,939. The MDX led the division with sales of 3,266, an increase of 64.9 percent.

*The daily selling rate (DSR) is calculated with 24 days for February 2010 and 24 days for 2009. Year-to-date, the DSR is calculated with 48 days for 2010, versus 50 days for 2009. All percentages reflect DSR.

 

Are those ZDXes still in short supply or do we blame the low sales levels on the weather?

At least the Crosstour had some sales.

 

^^They are always going to be in short supply. But this month we should see arrival's for cars that were ordered in December. In other words, if somebody saw the car when it first came out and said "I like it but I want it in black with black and the Tech package not Advance" That order should be coming in this month.

That said, one of my customers (RL and NSX) look at the ZDX but did not drive. He liked the new ZDX but he has six months to go on his RL lease. My other prospect on the ZDX decided to go with a new 2010 RL. His reason being that his parents (who are 90) would have too much difficulty getting in and out of the back seat of the ZDX.

 

Looks like that darned availability bug continues to haunt the TL.

 

Everyone wants one! They are in demand!
Look! We sold more ZDX than RL's!!

 

One of my local Acura dealers has only 1 ZDX. Hiked up with a $2000 "market adjustment fee"

 

I understand that they make next to nothing on their volume models and dealers try to make it up elsewhere but an ADM on a ZDX? Really?

 

Wow Honda sold more Crosstours, a niche product, than TLs, Acura's former bread & butter!

The MDX is smoking hot in February too! But the poor TL is still having negative comps.

 

January 2010 - Overall Luxury Brand Sales
1. Mercedes-Benz - 15,385
2. BMW - 15,100
3. Lexus - 13,787
4. Cadillac - 9,273
5. Acura - 8,939
6. Infiniti - 7,041
7. Lincoln - 6,681
8. Audi - 6,216
9. Volvo - 4,641
10. Porsche - 1,531
11. Saab - 97

February 2010 - Luxury Car Sales By Segment

Entry-Level CUV
1. GLK - 2,126
2. Q5 - 1,060
3. RDX - 850
4. XC60 - 667
5. EX - 575
6. X3 - 351

Mid-Level SUV
1. RX - 5,694
2. SRX - 3,542
3. MDX - 3,266
4. X5 - 2,959
5. ML - 1,655
6. GX - 1,473
7. MKX - 1,452
8. FX - 885
9. XC90 - 680
10. Cayenne - 599
11. X6 - 494
12. Q7 - 266
13. ZDX - 159

Large SUV
1. Escalade/ESV/EXT - 2,072
2. GL - 1,368
3. QX - 808
4. MKT - 647
5. Navigator - 541
6. LX - 254
7. G Wagon - 65

Pre-Entry-Level
1. TSX - 2,123
2. C30/S40/V50 - 1,236
3. 1-Series - 781
4. HS - 712
5. A3 - 434

Entry-Level
1. 3 - 6,817
2. C - 4,245
3. G - 3,956
4. A4/5 - 3,689
5. CTS - 2,690
6. TL - 2,410
7. ES - 2,349
8. IS - 1,991
9. MKZ - 1,761
10. S60 - 17

Mid-Level
1. E - 4,043
2. 5 - 2,270
3. MKS - 1,183
4. M - 817
5. S80 - 662
7. A6/S6 - 507
8. GS - 488
9. STS - 332
10. RL - 131

Flagship
1. 7-Series - 899
2. LS - 799
3. S-Class - 715
4. Panamera - 409
5. A8/S8 - 34

Luxury Coupe/GT
1. G37 Coupe - 1,270
2. A5/S5 - 1,029
3. C70 - 710
4. Z4 - 389
5. 911 - 339
6. CLK - 204
7. Boxster/Cayman - 184
8. 6-Series - 140
9. SL - 104
10. TT - 92
11. CL - 77
12. GT-R - 71
13. SLK - 61
14. R8 - 34
15. XLR - 26
16. SC - 27