Infiniti: G-Series news **Next Generation Spied (page 75)**
08-12-2006, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
i think only the qx56 (pretty much an armada with a different grille/headlights/tailings) is made in TN.
I have had my first model year M45 for a year this september...have had ZERO problems, except that black paint is a bee-yotch to keep clean.
This is more than i can say for my first model year cl-s, which had rattles develop in the first several months, a misaligned bumper, misaligned trunk, misaligned hood, and rotors that had to be machined twice within the first year (and dealer refused to do it under warranty). But it was silver...oh how I miss silver.
I have had my first model year M45 for a year this september...have had ZERO problems, except that black paint is a bee-yotch to keep clean.
This is more than i can say for my first model year cl-s, which had rattles develop in the first several months, a misaligned bumper, misaligned trunk, misaligned hood, and rotors that had to be machined twice within the first year (and dealer refused to do it under warranty). But it was silver...oh how I miss silver.
08-12-2006, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
There are strong rumors of smaller engined G cars coming out next year.
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08-12-2006, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
i think only the qx56 (pretty much an armada with a different grille/headlights/tailings) is made in TN.
I have had my first model year M45 for a year this september...have had ZERO problems, except that black paint is a bee-yotch to keep clean.
This is more than i can say for my first model year cl-s, which had rattles develop in the first several months, a misaligned bumper, misaligned trunk, misaligned hood, and rotors that had to be machined twice within the first year (and dealer refused to do it under warranty). But it was silver...oh how I miss silver.
I have had my first model year M45 for a year this september...have had ZERO problems, except that black paint is a bee-yotch to keep clean.
This is more than i can say for my first model year cl-s, which had rattles develop in the first several months, a misaligned bumper, misaligned trunk, misaligned hood, and rotors that had to be machined twice within the first year (and dealer refused to do it under warranty). But it was silver...oh how I miss silver.
08-12-2006, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaPower
i thought the QX along with the other trucks and suvs are built in mississippi...either way, their build quality sux compared to those built in japan
08-12-2006, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
I have had my first model year M45 for a year this september...have had ZERO problems, except that black paint is a bee-yotch to keep clean.
08-12-2006, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by derrick
But wasn't released in Japan a year earlier as a Nissan Fuga? (ie the first MY Infiniti M-series was actually a rebadged second MY Nissan Fuga)
08-14-2006, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
The poor build quality of Infiniti is only associated with the models made in America. The Tennessee plant has done a really poor job on their newer vehicles. All G35s, FXs, M35/45 have excellent build quality and reliability. I've had my G for over 2 years and its been fantastic. I get only 19 mpg on average though but I have a lead foot.
08-14-2006, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
The G25 already exists in Japan (in the form of the Skyline with the 2.5L engine) so introducing that in the US is certainly a possibility. Infiniti had to hurry up and get its bread and butter car out before it lost too many sales to the competition. Then it will add other models. They are using the BMW method of rolling out new models - the mainline car comes out first, then coupe, then other variations, then changes to the models. It could be that instead of just offering a smaller gas engine they could go out on a limb and try a diesel version - it's a much simpler solution to milage woes than a hybrid. It's just a matter of time before we have a 2.2 iCTDi TSX, an IS220d, a BMW 330d and some diesel version of C class MB (A4 diesel is a given). Infiniti needs an answer to this and a diesel version of the G makes the most sense. Unlike other features that trickle down from the more expensive models I think diesels will be introduced from the bottom of the line up (with the E320d being the exception).
Biker, who wonders if Nissan reserved any vehicle name with a "d" ending.
Biker, who wonders if Nissan reserved any vehicle name with a "d" ending.
08-14-2006, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
The new G coming out now has nothing to do with sales (though they have been dipping). It was the end of it's procuct cycle. Don't forget, the G came to us a year and a half after it debuted as the Skyline in Japan. Though we've had it for only four years, it's really close to six years old. Infiniti's just lining up the new G's launch so that they won't continue to be behind. I think this new G will be around for 5-6 years. Also, I agree that it would be wise to bring over the 2.5L V6 used in the Skyline soon. A diesel is an even better idea... sooner or later they'll have to pick a fuel saving route and run with it for Infiniti (whether it's diesels or hybrids). What I really continue to wonder is when the 3.7L V6 will debut. We already know G37,FX37, and M37 are registered names. I think it's a matter of time before we see the upgrades; my guess is it'll either be the next gen FX, or the midlife upgrade for the M. Then, it'd trickle to the rest of the line.
It would make sense to intro the G37 when the other drivetrain options are in place. MY08 might be a bit too soon but definitely by MY09.
08-14-2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by titan
What I really continue to wonder is when the 3.7L V6 will debut. We already know G37,FX37, and M37 are registered names. I think it's a matter of time before we see the upgrades; my guess is it'll either be the next gen FX, or the midlife upgrade for the M. Then, it'd trickle to the rest of the line.
IN other words, the new more powerful Infiniti engine in the G should be coming out with the coupe, like the new twin turbo 300HP engine came out from BMW with the coupe's intro.
08-14-2006, 01:07 PM
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If truly the 335 makes 350HP though, Infiniti better turn up the volume on the the rumored 3.7L engine. I mean, 330 claimed HP wont cut it, regardless of how impressive that sounds.
08-14-2006, 01:08 PM
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Man, this HP wars game has changed power reference so much, so quickly, people are losing perspective. I mean 260HP was THE power to have just 6 years ago when our CLS came out. Now, the next Infiniti G coupe will make as much as the M3 and it's an entry luxury car.
It feels like the LS2 needs to add a few ponies at this point to keep up.
It feels like the LS2 needs to add a few ponies at this point to keep up.
08-14-2006, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Man, this HP wars game has changed power reference so much, so quickly, people are losing perspective. I mean 260HP was THE power to have just 6 years ago when our CLS came out. Now, the next Infiniti G coupe will make as much as the M3 and it's an entry luxury car.
It feels like the LS2 needs to add a few ponies at this point to keep up.
It feels like the LS2 needs to add a few ponies at this point to keep up.
08-14-2006, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Man, this HP wars game has changed power reference so much, so quickly, people are losing perspective. I mean 260HP was THE power to have just 6 years ago when our CLS came out. Now, the next Infiniti G coupe will make as much as the M3 and it's an entry luxury car.
It feels like the LS2 needs to add a few ponies at this point to keep up.
It feels like the LS2 needs to add a few ponies at this point to keep up.
08-14-2006, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
The answer to that is: Look at what BMW did. LOL. Since everyone is trying to copy them with respect to product strategy.
IN other words, the new more powerful Infiniti engine in the G should be coming out with the coupe, like the new twin turbo 300HP engine came out from BMW with the coupe's intro.
IN other words, the new more powerful Infiniti engine in the G should be coming out with the coupe, like the new twin turbo 300HP engine came out from BMW with the coupe's intro.
08-14-2006, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
If truly the 335 makes 350HP though, Infiniti better turn up the volume on the the rumored 3.7L engine. I mean, 330 claimed HP wont cut it, regardless of how impressive that sounds.
08-15-2006, 08:51 AM
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I wonder if there's some bored lawyer out there thinking: Hey, Mazda bought back all those RX8s for misleading the public about the HP rating - I wonder if it could be done for the 335?
08-15-2006, 08:55 AM
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Having never owned a car with more than 200hp, I can't even imagine what it'd feel like driving a car with 300+ hp.
08-15-2006, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
20 years from now, this period will look like the late 60s when cheap gas and HP wars were the craze. Then the oil embargo put most HP ratings in a free fall. It won't be a free fall, but HP wars are at their peak, IMO.
I think going forward manufacturers will pay more attention to vehicle weight than HP increases.
08-15-2006, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
I see the logic in that. I was hoping that both cars would get it though.
08-15-2006, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
I wonder if there's some bored lawyer out there thinking: Hey, Mazda bought back all those RX8s for misleading the public about the HP rating - I wonder if it could be done for the 335?
08-15-2006, 11:50 AM
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One can sue me if I gave stole money from them, not if I gave them more than I owed
USA, where no lawsuit is too ridiculous.
08-15-2006, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Again, look at what BMW will do. The sedan 3er will get it soon. SO the G sedan will probably become the G37 in 2008.
08-15-2006, 04:08 PM
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BTW no one has thought of the fact that the name could change to G37 but the engine staying at 3.5 liters. BMW has done this before.
Because what is the sense of bringing an (according to Infiniti) 80% new engine (the 3.5L in the new G35) and stop using it two years later?
Because what is the sense of bringing an (according to Infiniti) 80% new engine (the 3.5L in the new G35) and stop using it two years later?
08-15-2006, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
BTW no one has thought of the fact that the name could change to G37 but the engine staying at 3.5 liters. BMW has done this before.
Because what is the sense of bringing an (according to Infiniti) 80% new engine (the 3.5L in the new G35) and stop using it two years later?
Because what is the sense of bringing an (according to Infiniti) 80% new engine (the 3.5L in the new G35) and stop using it two years later?
08-15-2006, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
I wonder if there's some bored lawyer out there thinking: Hey, Mazda bought back all those RX8s for misleading the public about the HP rating - I wonder if it could be done for the 335?
that is more than the BHP bmw claimed....
08-15-2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
BTW no one has thought of the fact that the name could change to G37 but the engine staying at 3.5 liters. BMW has done this before.
Because what is the sense of bringing an (according to Infiniti) 80% new engine (the 3.5L in the new G35) and stop using it two years later?
Because what is the sense of bringing an (according to Infiniti) 80% new engine (the 3.5L in the new G35) and stop using it two years later?
08-15-2006, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sipark
I thought they already named it G35.?!?.
08-16-2006, 06:58 PM
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Artcile says 306 for new the G35
I don't know how accurate this article is but they say 306hp under the newest SAE standards.
If this is the case then this is going to be one fun car. Can't wait to see one at the dealer and give it a test drive. If it feels and drives nice then this is going to be my next car.
Here is the site that I got the info from
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...35_horsep.html
If this is the case then this is going to be one fun car. Can't wait to see one at the dealer and give it a test drive. If it feels and drives nice then this is going to be my next car.
Here is the site that I got the info from
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...35_horsep.html
08-17-2006, 12:00 PM
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I don't know how accurate this article is but they say 306hp under the newest SAE standards.
As the 335 dyno shows, paper numbers and reality could be two different things.
08-17-2006, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
Do you suppose that number is influenced by the published number of the IS350?
As the 335 dyno shows, paper numbers and reality could be two different things.
As the 335 dyno shows, paper numbers and reality could be two different things.
08-23-2006, 10:07 AM
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This is more proof that we will see a G25 sold in the USA this time.
NISSAN DEVELOPS NEW-GENERATION V6 ENGINES - - Source: http://www.nissan-global.com/
NISSAN DEVELOPS NEW-GENERATION V6 ENGINES - - Source: http://www.nissan-global.com/
TOKYO (Aug. 22, 2006)--Nissan Motor Co., Ltd., has newly developed two new-generation six-cylinder V-type engines for front-engine, rear-wheel-drive vehicles featuring powerful performance and improved environmental friendliness.
The 3.5L VQ35HR and 2.5L VQ25HR engines will be built at Nissan's Iwaki Plant in Fukushima Prefecture and will be equipped in the all-new Skyline to be released this autumn in Japan, as well as the US where the model is sold as the Infiniti G35.
Featuring newly designed engine blocks and other key components, the engines offer smooth transition to top-in-class level engine speed of 7,500 revolutions per minute drawing upon the "smooth transition" concept of the popular VQ engine, the only engine in the world to appear on Ward's 10-Best Engines list for 12 consecutive years.
The engines achieve a 10% improvement in fuel efficiency compared to vehicles equipped with the existing VQ engine and top-in-class Super Ultra-Low Emission Vehicle level emissions. SU-LEVs have 75% or less nitrogen oxide (NOx) and hydrocarbon (HC) emissions than those stipulated by Japan's 2005 exhaust emission standards.
The letters "HR" in VQ35HR and VQ25HR stand for "high revolution" and "high response."
Nissan began VQ engine production in 1994 and has produced a cumulative total of 5.5 million units as of last fiscal year, ended March 31, 2006.
Main specifications of the VQ35HR and VQ25HR engines:
Smooth transition to top-in-class level engine speed of 7,500 rpm
Reduction of weight and friction through adoption of asymetrical piston skirt configuration
Reduction of piston-side force through lengthening of con rod
Addition of rudder frame, newly-designed cylinder block with significantly improved rigidity
Thrilling revving sound and top-in-class output
Adoption of perfectly symmetrical intake system
Adoption of continuously variable valve timing control (CVTC) for intake side and electromagnetic valve timing control (e-VTC) for exhaust side
Reduction of intake resistance through adoption of symmetrical twin intake system and straight intake port
Adoption of isometric exhaust manifold and perfectly symmetrical exhaust system
Improvement of fuel-efficiency and emission cleanliness
Reduction of friction through adoption of world's first hydrogen-free, diamond-like carbon (DLC) coating
Adoption of catalyst substrate with ultra-low heat mass, super-ignition iridium spark plug and fast light-off O2 sensor control
The 3.5L VQ35HR and 2.5L VQ25HR engines will be built at Nissan's Iwaki Plant in Fukushima Prefecture and will be equipped in the all-new Skyline to be released this autumn in Japan, as well as the US where the model is sold as the Infiniti G35.
Featuring newly designed engine blocks and other key components, the engines offer smooth transition to top-in-class level engine speed of 7,500 revolutions per minute drawing upon the "smooth transition" concept of the popular VQ engine, the only engine in the world to appear on Ward's 10-Best Engines list for 12 consecutive years.
The engines achieve a 10% improvement in fuel efficiency compared to vehicles equipped with the existing VQ engine and top-in-class Super Ultra-Low Emission Vehicle level emissions. SU-LEVs have 75% or less nitrogen oxide (NOx) and hydrocarbon (HC) emissions than those stipulated by Japan's 2005 exhaust emission standards.
The letters "HR" in VQ35HR and VQ25HR stand for "high revolution" and "high response."
Nissan began VQ engine production in 1994 and has produced a cumulative total of 5.5 million units as of last fiscal year, ended March 31, 2006.
Main specifications of the VQ35HR and VQ25HR engines:
Smooth transition to top-in-class level engine speed of 7,500 rpm
Reduction of weight and friction through adoption of asymetrical piston skirt configuration
Reduction of piston-side force through lengthening of con rod
Addition of rudder frame, newly-designed cylinder block with significantly improved rigidity
Thrilling revving sound and top-in-class output
Adoption of perfectly symmetrical intake system
Adoption of continuously variable valve timing control (CVTC) for intake side and electromagnetic valve timing control (e-VTC) for exhaust side
Reduction of intake resistance through adoption of symmetrical twin intake system and straight intake port
Adoption of isometric exhaust manifold and perfectly symmetrical exhaust system
Improvement of fuel-efficiency and emission cleanliness
Reduction of friction through adoption of world's first hydrogen-free, diamond-like carbon (DLC) coating
Adoption of catalyst substrate with ultra-low heat mass, super-ignition iridium spark plug and fast light-off O2 sensor control
