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Old 07-21-2006, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by derrick
There will be gobs of torque from a VQ engine ... that's a no-brainer.

The current G35 MT puts out 260.

The IS is at 277 @ 4800, I'd expect something similar.
Old 07-21-2006, 08:49 AM
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Is there a price tag on these things yet?
Old 07-21-2006, 10:28 AM
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It's a winner...

TL, you'd better come out swinging cause' this new sedan is fucking beautiful inside and out.
...don't hold your breath.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Sidenote: the rev limit is now stratospheric enough (for a V6) to lure Hondaphiles to the darkside.
Yesss...
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Wow...sounds very promising
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too bad I'm in the market for CUV or station wagon....otherwise, this would be my next car.
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Originally Posted by titan
I love the car. Still, it should have a 6sp.
it most likely will...the first G sedan came out with only 5AT for a few months then the 6spd option was available
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaPower
it most likely will...the first G sedan came out with only 5AT for a few months then the 6spd option was available
From the article

"The G again offers a choice of 5-speed automatic transmission with manual shift mode or 6-speed manual transmission. The 5-speed automatic features Downshift Rev Matching, DS mode and ASC (Adaptive Shift Control) that allows for quicker shifts in sporty driving situations."
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i think they'll come out with a 6sp auto when the M gets refreshed and/or in 2 yrs
Old 07-21-2006, 01:52 PM
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I want to see a DSG/SMG type transmission by the time it gets refreshed
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
I want to see a DSG/SMG type transmission by the time it gets refreshed
may have to wait until the GT-R is out before they start putting a clutchless in other models.
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Not much of a lineup with just one car. Title change
Old 07-21-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
Not much of a lineup with just one car. Title change

I was thinking the same thing earlier but didn't bother reading the entire post. Thanks for confirming.

Merging with G35 thread.
Old 07-21-2006, 03:34 PM
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Where is your answer Acura?? Tell me. An unconfirmed J35 295hp 2007 TL? Pluease, that's going to get stomped on easily by the 306 hp 07 RWD/AWD G35 and the current 306 hp IS350.
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they have no answer.

and SeCsTaC, your avatar is freaking the crap out of me.
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Acura didn't answer the previous gen G35 either (as far as RWD goes) yet they still managed to handily outsell them. I'd imagine much of the same this time around as well.
Old 07-21-2006, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaPower
it most likely will...the first G sedan came out with only 5AT for a few months then the 6spd option was available
I meant a 6sp auto.
Old 07-21-2006, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sdho
too bad I'm in the market for CUV or station wagon....otherwise, this would be my next car.
The Infiniti CX will be out soon enough. Basically, it'll be a "G CUV."
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Originally Posted by dom
Acura didn't answer the previous gen G35 either (as far as RWD goes) yet they still managed to handily outsell them. I'd imagine much of the same this time around as well.
But Infiniti does sell more G35 coupes than Acura coupes
Old 07-22-2006, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Acura didn't answer the previous gen G35 either (as far as RWD goes) yet they still managed to handily outsell them. I'd imagine much of the same this time around as well.


Everyone (idiots at least) are quick to jump on the fact that Acura is "falling behind" without 07 versions of both vehicles having been released. And obviously the next gen version of the TL due in a year or two, will bring the guns to the battle, just like Acura did in 04.

Nonetheless, the new G is one sweet ride, inside AND out.
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Originally Posted by titan
The Infiniti CX will be out soon enough. Basically, it'll be a "G CUV."
The CX will be on the same platform as the Z and Infiniti G/M/FX?
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Originally Posted by dom
Acura didn't answer the previous gen G35 either (as far as RWD goes) yet they still managed to handily outsell them. I'd imagine much of the same this time around as well.
I dunno about you guys, but I don't give a rats ass about who outsells who.

I'd rather be in a driver oriented car that sells in lower volume, than a higher volume car that's built for the masses.
Old 07-23-2006, 08:24 AM
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^^ Great answer.
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Originally Posted by fast-tl
^^ Great answer.
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Originally Posted by M TYPE X
The CX will be on the same platform as the Z and Infiniti G/M/FX?
I believe so.
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I was expecting more hp than 306. This car will probably continue the trend of cars getting heavier.
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306 ?! The Lexus IS does 306 !

Nissan cannot compete against the vile Toyota juggernaut forever!
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Originally Posted by psteng19
I dunno about you guys, but I don't give a rats ass about who outsells who.

I'd rather be in a driver oriented car that sells in lower volume, than a higher volume car that's built for the masses.

Of course.

But the question was, what will Acura do to answer the new G? As far as they are concerned as long as they continue outselling the competition, they've done their job.

But with more people thinking like us (RWD > * ) they'll have to come up with a better answer eventually.
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Originally Posted by M TYPE X
306 ?! The Lexus IS does 306 !

Nissan cannot compete against the vile Toyota juggernaut forever!
uhh....y not? is lexus's 306 hp some how better than infiniti's 306 hp?

lexus just finally started being able to compete with nissan in power
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Originally Posted by MaximaPower

lexus just finally started being able to compete with nissan in power

and nissan hasnt even put direct injection on this engine otherwise it would blow lexus away
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
and nissan hasnt even put direct injection on this engine otherwise it would blow lexus away
But for an engine that is 80% new and uses all this fancy technology(per the PR release), it should make more than 6 hp more than the "old" VQ. This engine IMO should have been more like 325-335 hp using the new SAE standards.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
and nissan hasnt even put direct injection on this engine otherwise it would blow lexus away
Very true. Though, the lack of DI in the new VQ really pisses me off.
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Originally Posted by Maximized
But for an engine that is 80% new and uses all this fancy technology(per the PR release), it should make more than 6 hp more than the "old" VQ. This engine IMO should have been more like 325-335 hp using the new SAE standards.
Though I'm okay with "just" 306HP, you make a good point. This engine is only making six more HP than the last one, which isn't a great amount. I was also thinking this engine would be in the mid 320s for HP output.
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Originally Posted by titan
Very true. Though, the lack of DI in the new VQ really pisses me off.
Why should that piss you off? It's not like they promised it and didn't deliver..

I'm looking at this car as potentially my next vehicle and as long as the fuel economy is improved to somewhere closer to 30mpg highway , I'd be happy.
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Originally Posted by Maximized
But for an engine that is 80% new and uses all this fancy technology(per the PR release), it should make more than 6 hp more than the "old" VQ. This engine IMO should have been more like 325-335 hp using the new SAE standards.
Did you ever consider that there's only so much you can "improve" on a good design?

At 306HP, this engine is already at the higher end of practical HP/l limit. Nissan always goes for the inexpensive way to get HP. When more HP is needed, they add displacement (G37), not more expensive trickery to squeeze more power out of an existing engine.

Don't expect to see DI soon - you need the deep pockets of Toyota for that.
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I think the new SAE standards are playing into this. I don't think (And I wish soneone could clarify) That Infiniti's 298 was rated using the new standard. So in all likelyhood this is far more than a 6 HP increase.
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Originally Posted by sipark
I'm looking at this car as potentially my next vehicle and as long as the fuel economy is improved to somewhere closer to 30mpg highway , I'd be happy.
Don't count on it - with both weight and HP going up, I very much doubt real milage numbers will go up. The only way to get better milage numbers is to drive the speed limit and some kind of cyclinder deactivation.
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I think the new SAE standards are playing into this. I don't think (And I wish soneone could clarify) That Infiniti's 298 was rated using the new standard. So in all likelyhood this is far more than a 6 HP increase.
I think that was mentioned already - the real gain is more like 20 but it's mostly by upping the rev limit. There's little tq gain. The only gain may be in the shape of the tq/hp curves - the earlier the better.
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Originally Posted by biker
I think that was mentioned already -

Then why all the bitching about "only" 6HP?


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