Infiniti: G-Series news **Next Generation Spied (page 75)**
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Originally Posted by oemtsxparts
dude, but its a real racists issue white people have..... i mean, im thankful that they went around the world with their guns and bombs, stole enough money from other nations to live comfortable and have more time and money to invent things before others, and play while black slaves do your work. But people have to realize times have change. For example television was the pride and joy of the us when it was made here, but no one makes them here anymore. All televisions are now from asia. same with computer components, eletronics components, aircraft components, and etc. Almost all tech products are all evolving and produced from asia now. the only reason cars are still made here is by the japanese is because in the past when their cars sold much more than american like today, redneck americans started getting angry and burning looting japanese cars and stores just like the black people did to koreans in la riots.
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Originally Posted by oemtsxparts
dude, but its a real racists issue white people have..... i mean, im thankful that they went around the world with their guns and bombs, stole enough money from other nations to live comfortable and have more time and money to invent things before others, and play while black slaves do your work. But people have to realize times have change. For example television was the pride and joy of the us when it was made here, but no one makes them here anymore. All televisions are now from asia. same with computer components, eletronics components, aircraft components, and etc. Almost all tech products are all evolving and produced from asia now. the only reason cars are still made here is by the japanese is because in the past when their cars sold much more than american like today, redneck americans started getting angry and burning looting japanese cars and stores just like the black people did to koreans in la riots.
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Everything's a racist issue with him. He posted the same thing in another thread before...
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Originally Posted by fast-tl
^^So did I Mr. "Manic Hispanic". Not that there's anything wrong with that....
Manic Hispanic is a band from California...Here
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Originally Posted by F23A4
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
Actually, it didn't. M/T, like C&D, always posts corrected times. That is why the article mentioned the G35 ran an actual 0-60 of 5.7 seconds, but the official posted time was 5.4 seconds after applying the correction factor.
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Originally Posted by titan
^^ HEHEHE... don't laugh! It's not funny, lol! I wanna smoke some whatever MT's on, lol. ... lookin' forward to seeing C&D's comparos...
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Originally Posted by oemtsxparts
dude, but its a real racists issue white people have..... i mean, im thankful that they went around the world with their guns and bombs, stole enough money from other nations to live comfortable and have more time and money to invent things before others, and play while black slaves do your work. But people have to realize times have change. For example television was the pride and joy of the us when it was made here, but no one makes them here anymore. All televisions are now from asia. same with computer components, eletronics components, aircraft components, and etc. Almost all tech products are all evolving and produced from asia now. the only reason cars are still made here is by the japanese is because in the past when their cars sold much more than american like today, redneck americans started getting angry and burning looting japanese cars and stores just like the black people did to koreans in la riots.
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Originally Posted by oemtsxparts
"sublime and vice free chassis dynamics" = white power ultimate machine superiority complex
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Nissan says new V6 engines increase horsepower, fuel economy - - By JAMES B. TREECE | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS - - Source: Autoweek
TOKYO -- Nissan Motor Co. thinks U.S. car buyers will stick with V-6s if those engines provide both performance and better fuel economy. And it thinks its revised series of high-revving 2.5- and 3.5-liter "VQ" engines will fill that bill.
The engines will be offered on the 2007 Infiniti G35. The Altima will get one of the new VQ engines.
U.S. car buyers have been favoring four-cylinder engines in recent months because of $3-per-gallon gasoline. But long-term, "The six-cylinder market isn't shrinking," predicts Yo Usuba, Nissan's senior vice president in charge of the powertrain engineering division.
Nissan's current engine lineup is split this way: 50 percent four-cylinders, 25 percent V-6s and 25 percent V-8s and diesels. Nissan executives say they don't expect that to change.
"A V-6 still offers value to the customer," especially in performance, says Toshihiro Hirai, senior manager in the powertrain planning group. Nissan's plan is to improve the fuel economy of its V-6s rather than move customers to four-cylinder engines, he says.
The new V-6s offer a 10 percent improvement in fuel economy over the current VQs, Usuba says. That's mostly the result of reduced friction and improved intake and exhaust.
Usuba cited in-house tests of combined city-highway driving but would not provide specifics.
The engines also boast much higher power performance. Usuba didn't give horsepower data, but the engines are expected to offer at least 300 hp, up from 280 hp on current engines.
The new engines peak just shy of 7,000 rpm, compared with around 6,000 rpm for Nissan's current V-6s. The engine can rev up to 7,500 rpm, compared with a bit less than 6,500 now.
That gives the engines considerable power at all speeds, particularly when merging on highways. Nissan says acceleration from 0 to 62 mph is one second faster than with current V-6s.
Production of the new engines began in July at Nissan's plant in Iwaki, Japan. Nissan spent ¥10 billion, or $85.9 million at current exchange rates, refurbishing its No. 2 line there for the new engines.
The VQ series has been among Nissan's most successful engines. The company currently makes about 800,000 VQ engines a year. That is almost a quarter of its annual engine output of 3.5 million. It expects output of the new family of VQ engines, including the 2.5- and 3.5-liter ones, to reach 1 million a year.
The new engines are known as the VQ25HR and VQ35HR. The "HR" stands for "high revolution" or "high response." They were designed specifically for use in rear-wheel-drive cars.
They are the first in a new VQ family which later will include engines for front-wheel-drive cars, too.
The engines will be offered on the 2007 Infiniti G35. The Altima will get one of the new VQ engines.
U.S. car buyers have been favoring four-cylinder engines in recent months because of $3-per-gallon gasoline. But long-term, "The six-cylinder market isn't shrinking," predicts Yo Usuba, Nissan's senior vice president in charge of the powertrain engineering division.
Nissan's current engine lineup is split this way: 50 percent four-cylinders, 25 percent V-6s and 25 percent V-8s and diesels. Nissan executives say they don't expect that to change.
"A V-6 still offers value to the customer," especially in performance, says Toshihiro Hirai, senior manager in the powertrain planning group. Nissan's plan is to improve the fuel economy of its V-6s rather than move customers to four-cylinder engines, he says.
The new V-6s offer a 10 percent improvement in fuel economy over the current VQs, Usuba says. That's mostly the result of reduced friction and improved intake and exhaust.
Usuba cited in-house tests of combined city-highway driving but would not provide specifics.
The engines also boast much higher power performance. Usuba didn't give horsepower data, but the engines are expected to offer at least 300 hp, up from 280 hp on current engines.
The new engines peak just shy of 7,000 rpm, compared with around 6,000 rpm for Nissan's current V-6s. The engine can rev up to 7,500 rpm, compared with a bit less than 6,500 now.
That gives the engines considerable power at all speeds, particularly when merging on highways. Nissan says acceleration from 0 to 62 mph is one second faster than with current V-6s.
Production of the new engines began in July at Nissan's plant in Iwaki, Japan. Nissan spent ¥10 billion, or $85.9 million at current exchange rates, refurbishing its No. 2 line there for the new engines.
The VQ series has been among Nissan's most successful engines. The company currently makes about 800,000 VQ engines a year. That is almost a quarter of its annual engine output of 3.5 million. It expects output of the new family of VQ engines, including the 2.5- and 3.5-liter ones, to reach 1 million a year.
The new engines are known as the VQ25HR and VQ35HR. The "HR" stands for "high revolution" or "high response." They were designed specifically for use in rear-wheel-drive cars.
They are the first in a new VQ family which later will include engines for front-wheel-drive cars, too.
#1216
Originally Posted by gavriil
MT Mag does a comparo of the 330i Sport and the new G35S. The numbers showed a tie but the discretionary vote went to the 330i as "the better car" because of its "sublime and vice free chassis dynamics".
Both cars with 6 speed manual trannies.
0-60
330i = 6.2
G35S = 5.4
1/4
330i = 14.7@94.5
G35S = 14.0@100.4
60-0
330i = 115ft
G35S = 112
Lat. Acc.
330i = 0.90g
G35S = 0.90g
Figure 8
330i = 26.1sec @ 0.67g avg
G35S = 26.1 sec @ 0.69g
Price as tested
330i = 45K
G35S = 36K
Both cars with 6 speed manual trannies.
0-60
330i = 6.2
G35S = 5.4
1/4
330i = 14.7@94.5
G35S = 14.0@100.4
60-0
330i = 115ft
G35S = 112
Lat. Acc.
330i = 0.90g
G35S = 0.90g
Figure 8
330i = 26.1sec @ 0.67g avg
G35S = 26.1 sec @ 0.69g
Price as tested
330i = 45K
G35S = 36K
#1217
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Think this title is a little deceiving, not really sure what was tested. Next Gen g35 is the new sedan as shown on infinitinews.com and then there is the Infiniti Coupe concept which I thought was not available for testing since the car wasn't build yet. If this is a coupe in the test its only a refresh, but I assumed it was the sedan since it said next gen.
The new g35 sedan is the next gen, isnt it?
They tested the new sedan, there are pictures with the article.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
The new g35 sedan is the next gen, isnt it?
They tested the new sedan, there are pictures with the article.
They tested the new sedan, there are pictures with the article.
Thats what i assumed but didn't see a link. Too lazy to go any further with looking :P, but i think when most people see bmw coupe vs they assume the next gen infiniti coupe is performing like above.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Thats what i assumed but didn't see a link. Too lazy to go any further with looking :P, but i think when most people see bmw coupe vs they assume the next gen infiniti coupe is performing like above.
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If I can't afford the next gen G35 coupe or G35 sedan, I would love to have a G25 for sure with at least 230-260 hp and same exhaust sound from the G35 coupe. A G25 I think would outaccelerate my TSX, 325, and A4 2.0 easily with the VQ25.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
A G25 I think would outaccelerate my TSX, 325, and A4 2.0 easily with the VQ25.
#1223
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Is the G25 going to get a turbo? I don't see how it could get 230-260HP otherwise, the direct injection version gets around 210HP and I don't think it will get the DI version though the "high revolution" may make up the difference. It will probably also weigh a bit more than the TSX, but RWD will make it a good 328/IS competitor.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
If I can't afford the next gen G35 coupe or G35 sedan, I would love to have a G25 for sure with at least 230-260 hp and same exhaust sound from the G35 coupe. A G25 I think would outaccelerate my TSX, 325, and A4 2.0 easily with the VQ25.
it s all possible except for the exhauts sound... not gonna happen
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
A G25 I think would outaccelerate my TSX, 325, and A4 2.0 easily with the VQ25.
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Originally Posted by biker
07 TSX yes, but probably not the 08 TSX.
#1227
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Don't want to turn the infiniti thread into an Acura thread (but hey, the acura thread turned into an infiniti thread), but what are the losses due to the SH-AWD system? Is there any data on this?
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Originally Posted by unlemming
Don't want to turn the infiniti thread into an Acura thread (but hey, the acura thread turned into an infiniti thread), but what are the losses due to the SH-AWD system? Is there any data on this?
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The only thing I've seen is when TOV removed the rear and tested it FWD only, and got ~211 hp to the front wheels. I know it doesn't mean anything to the whole picture, but that's only a 12% loss..if the engine really only puts out 240hp. If the SH-AWD took another 5% (is that high or low? I dunno) that's still better than the TL's loss.
At any rate, a TSX with the RDX Turbo and SH-AWD will surely vastly outperform the current trim (the HP isn't much higher, but the torque sure is).
At any rate, a TSX with the RDX Turbo and SH-AWD will surely vastly outperform the current trim (the HP isn't much higher, but the torque sure is).
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Originally Posted by unlemming
The only thing I've seen is when TOV removed the rear and tested it FWD only, and got ~211 hp to the front wheels. I know it doesn't mean anything to the whole picture, but that's only a 12% loss..if the engine really only puts out 240hp. If the SH-AWD took another 5% (is that high or low? I dunno) that's still better than the TL's loss.
At any rate, a TSX with the RDX Turbo and SH-AWD will surely vastly outperform the current trim (the HP isn't much higher, but the torque sure is).
At any rate, a TSX with the RDX Turbo and SH-AWD will surely vastly outperform the current trim (the HP isn't much higher, but the torque sure is).
If nothing else the extra traction of SHAWD might make it able to get close to a G25.
At this point we're comparing two unknowns.
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Its the Honda way to stick with what seems to be working. ie; New CR-V.
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Its the Honda way to stick with what seems to be working. ie; New CR-V.
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Edmunds Full Test: 2007 Infiniti G35
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=116681#4
Looks like they really like it. The sound system sounds like it did well too. The only complaint was that it didn't have "customization"
to the G35
IMO this car beats the IS350, and does so costing less.
Looks like they really like it. The sound system sounds like it did well too. The only complaint was that it didn't have "customization"
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IMO this car beats the IS350, and does so costing less.
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
IMO this car beats the IS350, and does so costing less.
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
wow only one post since last time i came by this thread?
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I'm sure there'll be more talk when the coupe come out...
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Pretty thorough review. I wouldn't have even noticed what they had posted about the grille as a "miss"; don't know why they had a problem with the blue in the gauges, they would've looked rather plain without it.