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Old 08-29-2006, 02:43 PM
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dude, but its a real racists issue white people have..... i mean, im thankful that they went around the world with their guns and bombs, stole enough money from other nations to live comfortable and have more time and money to invent things before others, and play while black slaves do your work. But people have to realize times have change. For example television was the pride and joy of the us when it was made here, but no one makes them here anymore. All televisions are now from asia. same with computer components, eletronics components, aircraft components, and etc. Almost all tech products are all evolving and produced from asia now. the only reason cars are still made here is by the japanese is because in the past when their cars sold much more than american like today, redneck americans started getting angry and burning looting japanese cars and stores just like the black people did to koreans in la riots.

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Originally Posted by oemtsxparts
dude, but its a real racists issue white people have..... i mean, im thankful that they went around the world with their guns and bombs, stole enough money from other nations to live comfortable and have more time and money to invent things before others, and play while black slaves do your work. But people have to realize times have change. For example television was the pride and joy of the us when it was made here, but no one makes them here anymore. All televisions are now from asia. same with computer components, eletronics components, aircraft components, and etc. Almost all tech products are all evolving and produced from asia now. the only reason cars are still made here is by the japanese is because in the past when their cars sold much more than american like today, redneck americans started getting angry and burning looting japanese cars and stores just like the black people did to koreans in la riots.
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Isn't it funny that all four of us Maximized, Silver, Charliemike, and I all responded to same post?
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Originally Posted by Maximized
Seek professional help please.
Why this was posted in a G35 thread puzzles me.


It's bizzare and perplexing...
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Everything's a racist issue with him. He posted the same thing in another thread before...
Old 08-29-2006, 06:04 PM
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and he thinks i'm mexican for some odd reason.
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^^So did I Mr. "Manic Hispanic". Not that there's anything wrong with that....
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^^So did I Mr. "Manic Hispanic". Not that there's anything wrong with that....
just 'cuz i hit the tequila pretty hard a lot of people in college thought I was mexican too. I actually love Mexican and latin cultures (lived in Brazil for almost a year and go to San Antonio all the time), but that oemtsxparts guy constantly brings up comments concerning mexicans and illegal immigration to try to insult me. It's just ignorant of him to bring up those subjects to try to put people down, along with his other dumb-ass comments that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Manic Hispanic is a band from California...Here
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I guess there's no news about the new G today.
Old 08-29-2006, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I was referring to the 330i times (you posted) that ostensibly match that of Car & Driver's 325i detailed in the link I provided.
I was also referring to the 330i times.
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
Actually, it didn't. M/T, like C&D, always posts corrected times. That is why the article mentioned the G35 ran an actual 0-60 of 5.7 seconds, but the official posted time was 5.4 seconds after applying the correction factor.
Yes. However, the 330i initially was running 7.0s for the 60 and 15+ for the quarter. It was greatly affected by the weather.
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Originally Posted by titan
^^ HEHEHE... don't laugh! It's not funny, lol! I wanna smoke some whatever MT's on, lol. ... lookin' forward to seeing C&D's comparos...
Why? LOL. If MT picked the BMW, C+D will fall in love with it.
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Originally Posted by oemtsxparts
dude, but its a real racists issue white people have..... i mean, im thankful that they went around the world with their guns and bombs, stole enough money from other nations to live comfortable and have more time and money to invent things before others, and play while black slaves do your work. But people have to realize times have change. For example television was the pride and joy of the us when it was made here, but no one makes them here anymore. All televisions are now from asia. same with computer components, eletronics components, aircraft components, and etc. Almost all tech products are all evolving and produced from asia now. the only reason cars are still made here is by the japanese is because in the past when their cars sold much more than american like today, redneck americans started getting angry and burning looting japanese cars and stores just like the black people did to koreans in la riots.
What does this thread have to do with or :thief:?

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"sublime and vice free chassis dynamics" = white power ultimate machine superiority complex
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
What does this thread have to do with or :thief:?

You're too late speedy, four other people have jumped on that already
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Nissan says new V6 engines increase horsepower, fuel economy - - By JAMES B. TREECE | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS - - Source: Autoweek

TOKYO -- Nissan Motor Co. thinks U.S. car buyers will stick with V-6s if those engines provide both performance and better fuel economy. And it thinks its revised series of high-revving 2.5- and 3.5-liter "VQ" engines will fill that bill.

The engines will be offered on the 2007 Infiniti G35. The Altima will get one of the new VQ engines.

U.S. car buyers have been favoring four-cylinder engines in recent months because of $3-per-gallon gasoline. But long-term, "The six-cylinder market isn't shrinking," predicts Yo Usuba, Nissan's senior vice president in charge of the powertrain engineering division.

Nissan's current engine lineup is split this way: 50 percent four-cylinders, 25 percent V-6s and 25 percent V-8s and diesels. Nissan executives say they don't expect that to change.

"A V-6 still offers value to the customer," especially in performance, says Toshihiro Hirai, senior manager in the powertrain planning group. Nissan's plan is to improve the fuel economy of its V-6s rather than move customers to four-cylinder engines, he says.

The new V-6s offer a 10 percent improvement in fuel economy over the current VQs, Usuba says. That's mostly the result of reduced friction and improved intake and exhaust.

Usuba cited in-house tests of combined city-highway driving but would not provide specifics.

The engines also boast much higher power performance. Usuba didn't give horsepower data, but the engines are expected to offer at least 300 hp, up from 280 hp on current engines.

The new engines peak just shy of 7,000 rpm, compared with around 6,000 rpm for Nissan's current V-6s. The engine can rev up to 7,500 rpm, compared with a bit less than 6,500 now.

That gives the engines considerable power at all speeds, particularly when merging on highways. Nissan says acceleration from 0 to 62 mph is one second faster than with current V-6s.

Production of the new engines began in July at Nissan's plant in Iwaki, Japan. Nissan spent ¥10 billion, or $85.9 million at current exchange rates, refurbishing its No. 2 line there for the new engines.

The VQ series has been among Nissan's most successful engines. The company currently makes about 800,000 VQ engines a year. That is almost a quarter of its annual engine output of 3.5 million. It expects output of the new family of VQ engines, including the 2.5- and 3.5-liter ones, to reach 1 million a year.

The new engines are known as the VQ25HR and VQ35HR. The "HR" stands for "high revolution" or "high response." They were designed specifically for use in rear-wheel-drive cars.

They are the first in a new VQ family which later will include engines for front-wheel-drive cars, too.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
MT Mag does a comparo of the 330i Sport and the new G35S. The numbers showed a tie but the discretionary vote went to the 330i as "the better car" because of its "sublime and vice free chassis dynamics".

Both cars with 6 speed manual trannies.

0-60
330i = 6.2
G35S = 5.4

1/4
330i = 14.7@94.5
G35S = 14.0@100.4

60-0
330i = 115ft
G35S = 112

Lat. Acc.
330i = 0.90g
G35S = 0.90g

Figure 8
330i = 26.1sec @ 0.67g avg
G35S = 26.1 sec @ 0.69g

Price as tested
330i = 45K
G35S = 36K
Think this title is a little deceiving, not really sure what was tested. Next Gen g35 is the new sedan as shown on infinitinews.com and then there is the Infiniti Coupe concept which I thought was not available for testing since the car wasn't build yet. If this is a coupe in the test its only a refresh, but I assumed it was the sedan since it said next gen.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Think this title is a little deceiving, not really sure what was tested. Next Gen g35 is the new sedan as shown on infinitinews.com and then there is the Infiniti Coupe concept which I thought was not available for testing since the car wasn't build yet. If this is a coupe in the test its only a refresh, but I assumed it was the sedan since it said next gen.

The new g35 sedan is the next gen, isnt it?

They tested the new sedan, there are pictures with the article.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
The new g35 sedan is the next gen, isnt it?

They tested the new sedan, there are pictures with the article.

Thats what i assumed but didn't see a link. Too lazy to go any further with looking :P, but i think when most people see bmw coupe vs they assume the next gen infiniti coupe is performing like above.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Thats what i assumed but didn't see a link. Too lazy to go any further with looking :P, but i think when most people see bmw coupe vs they assume the next gen infiniti coupe is performing like above.
It was G35S sedan against 330i sedan.
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There's alot of talk about the VQ25HR, but no confirmation of when it might make it into the G.
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If I can't afford the next gen G35 coupe or G35 sedan, I would love to have a G25 for sure with at least 230-260 hp and same exhaust sound from the G35 coupe. A G25 I think would outaccelerate my TSX, 325, and A4 2.0 easily with the VQ25.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
A G25 I think would outaccelerate my TSX, 325, and A4 2.0 easily with the VQ25.
And probably give the TSX a run for its money in terms of value, and easily outprice the others.
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Is the G25 going to get a turbo? I don't see how it could get 230-260HP otherwise, the direct injection version gets around 210HP and I don't think it will get the DI version though the "high revolution" may make up the difference. It will probably also weigh a bit more than the TSX, but RWD will make it a good 328/IS competitor.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
If I can't afford the next gen G35 coupe or G35 sedan, I would love to have a G25 for sure with at least 230-260 hp and same exhaust sound from the G35 coupe. A G25 I think would outaccelerate my TSX, 325, and A4 2.0 easily with the VQ25.

it s all possible except for the exhauts sound... not gonna happen
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
A G25 I think would outaccelerate my TSX, 325, and A4 2.0 easily with the VQ25.
07 TSX yes, but probably not the 08 TSX. I think it would lose to the 328 and beat the A4. Remember, it's a 6 cyl but with only 2.5Ls worth of displacement - only 100cc more than the current TSX K24. Assuming a 3500 lb weight, I'd guess an even 7s 0-60 time.
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07 TSX yes, but probably not the 08 TSX.
I don't know, if the TSX does get the turbo from the RDX, I'm guessing it'll also get SH-AWD, which might offset any power advantage. The TSX manual is what, low 7's in 0-60? An RL is high 6's, it's already outaccelerated by the TL, but if the TSX manages that too...
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Don't want to turn the infiniti thread into an Acura thread (but hey, the acura thread turned into an infiniti thread), but what are the losses due to the SH-AWD system? Is there any data on this?
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Originally Posted by unlemming
Don't want to turn the infiniti thread into an Acura thread (but hey, the acura thread turned into an infiniti thread), but what are the losses due to the SH-AWD system? Is there any data on this?
I think if the lb/hp (@ the wheel) ratio is the same, then all else being equal (like gearing and traction), the turbo'd AWD TSX should have the same performance as the current one. So the turbo had better make up for both the loss in HP (which i am guessing is probably less than 10%) as well as the weight gain...but it does have the advantage of better traction.
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The only thing I've seen is when TOV removed the rear and tested it FWD only, and got ~211 hp to the front wheels. I know it doesn't mean anything to the whole picture, but that's only a 12% loss..if the engine really only puts out 240hp. If the SH-AWD took another 5% (is that high or low? I dunno) that's still better than the TL's loss.

At any rate, a TSX with the RDX Turbo and SH-AWD will surely vastly outperform the current trim (the HP isn't much higher, but the torque sure is).
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Originally Posted by unlemming
The only thing I've seen is when TOV removed the rear and tested it FWD only, and got ~211 hp to the front wheels. I know it doesn't mean anything to the whole picture, but that's only a 12% loss..if the engine really only puts out 240hp. If the SH-AWD took another 5% (is that high or low? I dunno) that's still better than the TL's loss.

At any rate, a TSX with the RDX Turbo and SH-AWD will surely vastly outperform the current trim (the HP isn't much higher, but the torque sure is).
I wouldn't necessarily assume that the RDX drivetrain the TSX will put out the same power - in typical Honda form it will probably put out more HP with a little less tq.

If nothing else the extra traction of SHAWD might make it able to get close to a G25.

At this point we're comparing two unknowns.
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My money is on the TSX NOT getting SH-AWD or a Turbo. Expect a revised 2.4 putting out 220-225HP and 170ish lb-ft.

Its the Honda way to stick with what seems to be working. ie; New CR-V.
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Why do you have that premonition Dom that the 2nd gen TSX won't have a turbo or SH-AWD?
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Edmunds Full Test: 2007 Infiniti G35

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=116681#4

Looks like they really like it. The sound system sounds like it did well too. The only complaint was that it didn't have "customization"

to the G35

IMO this car beats the IS350, and does so costing less.

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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC

IMO this car beats the IS350, and does so costing less.
Unfortunately for Nissan, that won't translate to higher sales than the IS line, well at least not until a possible G25.
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car sounds pretty sick, wonder how noticeable that speed sensitive steering flaw is...
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update the thread title so this thread gets more traffic =D.
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wow only one post since last time i came by this thread?
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wow only one post since last time i came by this thread?
After 41 pages, it's tough to generate more interest. Everything that needs to be said has already been said...

I'm sure there'll be more talk when the coupe come out...
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wow only one post since last time i came by this thread?
Where the hell are the Nissan guys?
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Pretty thorough review. I wouldn't have even noticed what they had posted about the grille as a "miss"; don't know why they had a problem with the blue in the gauges, they would've looked rather plain without it.


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