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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
In terms of telling them apart, many with cars equipped w/ DI engines have complained about an audible ticking sound coming from the engine. This would be one way to tell a car w/ a DI motor vs. one without.
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Originally Posted by biker
I don't believe there are any cars in the US on which there's a drivetrain option with or without DI. The ticking comes from the fuel injectors but most of the time you'd have to listen for it to tell what it is - most people would just chalk it up to normal engine noise.
Once a model changes to DI the non DI engine would be dropped. I can see DI in the G37 but down the road - the engine will have enough HP in non DI form for now. Not only that Nissan might be too cheap to add HP via DI, they'd rather opt for displacement.
Once a model changes to DI the non DI engine would be dropped. I can see DI in the G37 but down the road - the engine will have enough HP in non DI form for now. Not only that Nissan might be too cheap to add HP via DI, they'd rather opt for displacement.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Really? I have not heard of a consistent complaint about the above from all DI engines. I know however, that VW, one of the first with DI engines, has the tendency to tune their 4 cylinder engines to sound like diesel engines at idle and this might possibly be what you have heard or read about.
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195420
I recall reading threads about similar issues w/ Audi engines having DI as well.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
There is a peculiar case with Lexus where we have an engine that works on both DI and FI modes. Do I remember correctly?
Even BMW and MB are slow to adopt DI - there's no pressure to do so - the benefits are not very marketable to avg Joe buyer. G35 gets above 300HP via some trickery (dual intake, low friction internals) and high revs, the IS350 via DI and the BMW335 via Turbo. Of those I'm sure Nissan's way is the cheapest (although probably the worst for mileage) - that's what matters to them.
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The one thing DI makers may gain an advantage in is development knowledge in high pressure fuel systems - something also used in diesels. This will come in handy down the road when the internal combustion engine may become a hybrid - can run in either diesel or 4 cycle mode depending on what's in the tank - something Honda is already working on with the 2.2iCTDi diesel engine.
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More 2008 coupe rumours: Word is from the Canadian national debriefing for sales reps on the new G sedan ...
The 2nd gen G coupe will be slated for release in August 2007. This is contrary to a published statement by Nissan Canada President, Mark Grimm, printed in several Canadian newspapers earlier this month.
Very disappointing news to persons looking to buy a car in the spring of 2007 (ie me).
The 2nd gen G coupe will be slated for release in August 2007. This is contrary to a published statement by Nissan Canada President, Mark Grimm, printed in several Canadian newspapers earlier this month.
Very disappointing news to persons looking to buy a car in the spring of 2007 (ie me).
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Originally Posted by derrick
More 2008 coupe rumours: Word is from the Canadian national debriefing for sales reps on the new G sedan ...
The 2nd gen G coupe will be slated for release in August 2007. This is contrary to a published statement by Nissan Canada President, Mark Grimm, printed in several Canadian newspapers earlier this month.
Very disappointing news to persons looking to buy a car in the spring of 2007 (ie me).![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
The 2nd gen G coupe will be slated for release in August 2007. This is contrary to a published statement by Nissan Canada President, Mark Grimm, printed in several Canadian newspapers earlier this month.
Very disappointing news to persons looking to buy a car in the spring of 2007 (ie me).
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^ I'm definitely going to the Detroit Autoshow (I live across the border from Detroit, MI). Of course, the news of the 2nd gen coupe release will be discussed during the media days ... so we'll know (by reading this forum / thread) well before I step foot inside Cobo Hall.
Now ... will I have my DSLR in time for the 'show ... (I hope my GF is reading this ... hint, hint)![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Again ... what I said above is pure rumour. No one knows when the new coupe will be released. All this secrecy nonsense.
But biker's explanation to the delay does make sense.
Now ... will I have my DSLR in time for the 'show ... (I hope my GF is reading this ... hint, hint)
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Again ... what I said above is pure rumour. No one knows when the new coupe will be released. All this secrecy nonsense.
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Originally Posted by biker
The details of the coupe should be known by the Jan Detroit car show. Maybe the arrival of the 335 caught Nissan by surprise and they'll dump the G35 and go straight to the G37 which will take more time. ![Too Cool](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/toocool.gif)
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Originally Posted by charliemike
It could be but the 335i will cost about $10-15k more than the G35 does ... I think 315hp (if it gets the G35 sedan engine) will be okay for now.
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Originally Posted by biker
Sure ES350 and IS350 have the same basic engine one with and one without DI, but it's on different cars. I don't think the IS will ever go back or offer an engine without DI, nor with the GS from now on (06 GS430 still FI). Audi will probably stay with DI from now on. Once they switch a model to DI it wouldn't be good marketing to offer FI later on. Hence, I think it will be long time before the volume model G35 or even the G37 will get it.
Even BMW and MB are slow to adopt DI - there's no pressure to do so - the benefits are not very marketable to avg Joe buyer. G35 gets above 300HP via some trickery (dual intake, low friction internals) and high revs, the IS350 via DI and the BMW335 via Turbo. Of those I'm sure Nissan's way is the cheapest (although probably the worst for mileage) - that's what matters to them.![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
Even BMW and MB are slow to adopt DI - there's no pressure to do so - the benefits are not very marketable to avg Joe buyer. G35 gets above 300HP via some trickery (dual intake, low friction internals) and high revs, the IS350 via DI and the BMW335 via Turbo. Of those I'm sure Nissan's way is the cheapest (although probably the worst for mileage) - that's what matters to them.
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I believe one of the biggest benefits of DI that many overlook is how it has helped turbocharging become, both, more economical (with respect to gas consumption) and minimize lag to the point of it not being a major issue of turbocharging in general. One could say that DI has saved turbocharging and has now made it clearly more advantageous than supercharging.
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^ Related to the above, I was just reading about the IROC concept by VW. That thing uses a specially tuned version of its 1.4 Liter Twincharger (TSI) family of engines making 208HP! And gets 30mpg or better.
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Originally Posted by derrick
More 2008 coupe rumours: Word is from the Canadian national debriefing for sales reps on the new G sedan ...
The 2nd gen G coupe will be slated for release in August 2007. This is contrary to a published statement by Nissan Canada President, Mark Grimm, printed in several Canadian newspapers earlier this month.
Very disappointing news to persons looking to buy a car in the spring of 2007 (ie me).![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
The 2nd gen G coupe will be slated for release in August 2007. This is contrary to a published statement by Nissan Canada President, Mark Grimm, printed in several Canadian newspapers earlier this month.
Very disappointing news to persons looking to buy a car in the spring of 2007 (ie me).
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That would be disappointing indeed.
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Originally Posted by biker
The details of the coupe should be known by the Jan Detroit car show. Maybe the arrival of the 335 caught Nissan by surprise and they'll dump the G35 and go straight to the G37 which will take more time. ![Too Cool](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/toocool.gif)
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http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...2&d=1160771289
seems like owners are reporting 260ish whp for the new 335i not 300whp like the auto mag tests
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33272
seems like owners are reporting 260ish whp for the new 335i not 300whp like the auto mag tests
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33272
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Originally Posted by biker
Depends on how far Nissan wants to reach but G prices are certainly keeping up with BMW increases (people are talking about 40K 07 G35 sedans!). Also, the sedan makes 306 (where did 315 come from?) which is equal to the IS350 and only on paper higher than the 335 (which in reality is probably higher - dyno tests suggest 330+). Nissan wants to be ahead of these rivals - skipping to the G37 might make sense depending on the urgency they feel to do so and the time it would take to move the G37 forward.
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Originally Posted by derrick
More 2008 coupe rumours: Word is from the Canadian national debriefing for sales reps on the new G sedan ...
The 2nd gen G coupe will be slated for release in August 2007. This is contrary to a published statement by Nissan Canada President, Mark Grimm, printed in several Canadian newspapers earlier this month.
Very disappointing news to persons looking to buy a car in the spring of 2007 (ie me).![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
The 2nd gen G coupe will be slated for release in August 2007. This is contrary to a published statement by Nissan Canada President, Mark Grimm, printed in several Canadian newspapers earlier this month.
Very disappointing news to persons looking to buy a car in the spring of 2007 (ie me).
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Originally Posted by biker
Depends on how far Nissan wants to reach but G prices are certainly keeping up with BMW increases (people are talking about 40K 07 G35 sedans!).
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thats no surprise. avg price of cars these days has risen quite a bit. when the 1st gen g35 came out im sure it was 10k less than a similar equipped 3 series and that still holds true today.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
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for certain but, I think it was Motor Trend which spec'd '315hp' on the 07 350Z version of the VQ35HR.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
^ Related to the above, I was just reading about the IROC concept by VW. That thing uses a specially tuned version of its 1.4 Liter Twincharger (TSI) family of engines making 208HP! And gets 30mpg or better.
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Originally Posted by oemtsxparts
didnt the old m3 put down around 260whp too? does that mean the old m3 under the current ratings should be more at 300hp at the crank?
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Originally Posted by biker
But the 07 G35 sedan is listed at 306.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
did they mention anywhere if the sport model has a different suspension than the regular g35?
Biker, who can't believe the prices have not leaked out.
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I'm still hoping that you can just buy an 07 G35 and add a navigation package as the only option w/o having to get a premium package too. But, I have a feeling that won't happen.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
I'm still hoping that you can just buy an 07 G35 and add a navigation package as the only option w/o having to get a premium package too. But, I have a feeling that won't happen.
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Overall ... not surprised at the modest price hike.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
My synopsis: value-wise, looks, and performance-wise, 2007 G35 > 2007 TL-S
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Originally Posted by AsianRage
Great, comparing a new generation model with a refreshed one. How about you wait a couple year from now when the 4g TL come out then make a fair one? But as it stands, I don't like the look of the new G nor the interior, so TL-S > G35.
Also, you've got to be blind or you just have bias because the red gauges in the TL-S are ugly to me vs. the white/blue gauges in the 07 G35.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
the G35 has a better interior and exterior than the TL-S
because the red gauges in the TL-S are ugly to me vs. the white/blue gauges in the 07 G35.
because the red gauges in the TL-S are ugly to me vs. the white/blue gauges in the 07 G35.
Subjective, Subjective, Subjective. How can you say any of that is fact? Although I agree with you, still doesn't make it fact.
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
Argh, when are they going to release details about the coupe?
probably not for another couple months since supposedly they pushed back the release until summer
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Also, you've got to be blind or you just have bias because the red gauges in the TL-S are ugly to me vs. the white/blue gauges in the 07 G35.
i actually liked the TL-S guages alot. in person they look very cool. they're not all red like mazda/bmw, the lettering is white the needles and circle outline are red