Hyundai: Equus News
I forsee another round of 
10-22-2010, 03:12 PM
#282
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i wouldn't mind owning an Equus but for $60k+ large, i think i rather spend it on a MB or Lexus. i like that big "L" and "star"; it just brings more attention than a crooked "H".
though i'm a honda/acura fan and driver for so many years, it's sad to say that there are no current honda/acura product that can match the current genesis interior fit and quality. just imagine what the equus would be like then....
10-22-2010, 03:12 PM
#283
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10-22-2010, 03:18 PM
#284
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But you wont find either one of them with the same content for 60k. That makes the Hyundai the winner alone and more appealing. One also needs to remember that this it their first attempt at it, if it succeeds(which id bet it will) gust think what gen 2 of the Genesis and Equus will bring
10-22-2010, 04:23 PM
#285
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People looked at them when they came out the same way many are looking at Hyundai. Once given a chance and if they continue on the path they are now they will be a serious force in the upscale market place with BMW, Lex, Audi, Acura, benz
10-22-2010, 07:11 PM
#286
MDX 2010 test times are from 6.6sec to 7.1 sec from aggressive C&D to conservative Edmunds.
so if everything else remains the same. just upgrading to 6speed will bring RL times between 5.5sec to 6sec.
Another evidence of my theory is ZDX. it is 5% lighter than MDX.
and its 0-60 timing is 6.4second. every 5% weight reduction is reducuing 0-60mph timing by 0.2 second.
So atleast 0-60 in 6 sec is pretty much assured for RL.
from 0-120mph ZDX is 3 second faster than MDX despite having 5% weight difference. that 3 second equates to 12% reduction time.
10-22-2010, 10:05 PM
#287
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10-23-2010, 05:45 AM
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10-23-2010, 09:10 AM
#289
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This is totally OT but with the number of buttons on the steering wheel and console, you'll have reviewers knock the Eqqus down just for that! You know how most of the car rags criticize the number of buttons in recent Acuras, it's 2x as much for the Eqqus.
On topic for now, Hyundai is hungry for blood so of course they price their offerings very aggressively. I'm eager to find out how the genesis and Eqqus manage to do after a couple of years, that will be very interesting to watch. My only concerns is that around my city, Hyndai dealer is full of BS salesman and a work culture of cheapness. I would not be too eager to let them have my car for a day of service...
But I'm sure there are good dealers, like for any car brands...
On topic for now, Hyundai is hungry for blood so of course they price their offerings very aggressively. I'm eager to find out how the genesis and Eqqus manage to do after a couple of years, that will be very interesting to watch. My only concerns is that around my city, Hyndai dealer is full of BS salesman and a work culture of cheapness. I would not be too eager to let them have my car for a day of service...
But I'm sure there are good dealers, like for any car brands...
10-23-2010, 11:33 AM
#290
I don't see any issues with the buttons.
I never understood the car mags for ragging on Honda's buttons, either. they make it sound like it's a Saab. The buttons on a Honda are so intuitive to use.
I never understood the car mags for ragging on Honda's buttons, either. they make it sound like it's a Saab. The buttons on a Honda are so intuitive to use.
10-23-2010, 01:45 PM
#291
Hyundai has that stupid watch in the center of console. trying to imitate Infiniti. Steering wheel and rest is carbon copy of Lexus even the shifter.
Lexus steering wheel is more cleaner
Acura has the best designed interior. Navigation/Ventilation is not surrounded by buttons. So even if there are buttons they are to one side at lower level. so it ecourges to use Voice commands for various functions instead of looking at buttons.
Lexus steering wheel is more cleaner
Acura has the best designed interior. Navigation/Ventilation is not surrounded by buttons. So even if there are buttons they are to one side at lower level. so it ecourges to use Voice commands for various functions instead of looking at buttons.
10-23-2010, 01:54 PM
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The number of buttons in Acuras certainly doesn't make their interiors "the best". I think you're still smoking the 
If you were to say best in their class/segment, maybe, but they are definitely not the best.
If you were to say best in their class/segment, maybe, but they are definitely not the best.
10-23-2010, 02:05 PM
#293
It is not just the number of buttons but location of buttons so as not distract during driving. You can see the whole Music setup and selection of songs right at the eye level of driver.
ou dont have to look downwards. the clock is right on top of Screen. There is no clock in the center of stack.
It is the ergonomic efficiency of Acura that make it stand apart.
ou dont have to look downwards. the clock is right on top of Screen. There is no clock in the center of stack.
It is the ergonomic efficiency of Acura that make it stand apart.
10-23-2010, 03:57 PM
#294
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It is not just the number of buttons but location of buttons so as not distract during driving. You can see the whole Music setup and selection of songs right at the eye level of driver.
ou dont have to look downwards. the clock is right on top of Screen. There is no clock in the center of stack.
It is the ergonomic efficiency of Acura that make it stand apart.
ou dont have to look downwards. the clock is right on top of Screen. There is no clock in the center of stack.
It is the ergonomic efficiency of Acura that make it stand apart.
10-23-2010, 04:37 PM
#295
Even 2011 BMW 5 uses same location of Navigation/Ventilators but with wide screen.
But that beside the point. Both Eq/LS are practically obsolete in there layout. They are not fully wide screen.
10-23-2010, 08:49 PM
#296
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10-24-2010, 01:27 AM
#298
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Is the acura 1080p? If not its obsolete 
Give me a break. The Lexus and the Equus both look better design wise than the acura.
10-24-2010, 02:37 AM
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EQ/LS are practically obsolete. they are not driver oriented cars. They are more suitable for Hotel Taxi service.
10-24-2010, 09:23 AM
#302
Same here. I hear the same thing over and over.... they knock Honda interiors for the sea of buttons but hell, even after just a minute or two of visually acclimating myself with everything, I can take a drive and memorize a lot of buttons already. Seems like a non-existent issue when it comes to actual ownership.... I'd think after just a month everything would be second nature.
10-24-2010, 10:24 AM
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10-24-2010, 12:20 PM
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10-24-2010, 12:39 PM
#306
This thing is too bland and outdated for 2011 model year. Too many buttons near gearshift.
The car is a Monster from front end. nothing done to aerodynamic efficiency. getting worst mpg than S550 that way faster than Hyundai. You get what you pay.
10-24-2010, 02:01 PM
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So you are a aerodynamicist and can tell by pictures that its not aerodynamic?
WHo said its not going to handle decent in the wet or snow? It doesnt need SH-AWD to do that. Not every one tosses a car full of executives around corners at speeds higher than the posted speed limit. Stop posting stuff you have no clue about, or any thing to back it up.
WHo said its not going to handle decent in the wet or snow? It doesnt need SH-AWD to do that. Not every one tosses a car full of executives around corners at speeds higher than the posted speed limit. Stop posting stuff you have no clue about, or any thing to back it up.
10-24-2010, 02:07 PM
#308
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Oh and it has a coefficient of drag of 0.27. Not the brick in the wind you claim it to be.
10-24-2010, 04:46 PM
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Look at Audi A8 performance figures. The difference is simply too vast as to attribute to 8speed transmission. Any 8speed over 6speed does not add that much.
10-24-2010, 04:53 PM
#311
So you are a aerodynamicist and can tell by pictures that its not aerodynamic?
WHo said its not going to handle decent in the wet or snow? It doesnt need SH-AWD to do that. Not every one tosses a car full of executives around corners at speeds higher than the posted speed limit. Stop posting stuff you have no clue about, or any thing to back it up.
WHo said its not going to handle decent in the wet or snow? It doesnt need SH-AWD to do that. Not every one tosses a car full of executives around corners at speeds higher than the posted speed limit. Stop posting stuff you have no clue about, or any thing to back it up.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/07/2...iew-road-test/
. However, while being pitched into two high-speed bends on separate occasions we did experience a notable amount of oversteer, accompanied by the seatbelt tensioning system clutching our chest, then followed by a quick grab of the inside rear tire – as if the Equus' electronics were delayed in reminding us that "Hey, this is a big sedan. Watch it!" Also, sliding sideways in the rear VIP seat with the massagers at full blast should be a requirement on all test drives.
. However, while being pitched into two high-speed bends on separate occasions we did experience a notable amount of oversteer, accompanied by the seatbelt tensioning system clutching our chest, then followed by a quick grab of the inside rear tire – as if the Equus' electronics were delayed in reminding us that "Hey, this is a big sedan. Watch it!" Also, sliding sideways in the rear VIP seat with the massagers at full blast should be a requirement on all test drives.
10-24-2010, 04:54 PM
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You went from comparing the Interior of Acura's to the 8-speed transmission of the A8. How you made those connections is a mystery.
10-24-2010, 05:02 PM
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You went from comparing the Interior of Acura's to the 8-speed transmission of the A8. How you made those connections is a mystery.
These numbers are mind boggling for naturally aspirated engine. pulling AWD 4450lbs car. you have to question this Hyundi claim.
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...6b3192a099.pdf
10-24-2010, 05:02 PM
#314
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The Acura has a sport mode on the transmission plus it has a larger accelerator pedal. Hyundai will never be as good because they didn't do either of these things. Equus will fail because only rental companies will buy them. Also Lexus has better reverse lights and more perforations in leather. Also the floor mat hooks are better, too...this is why Equus sucks.
10-24-2010, 07:40 PM
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The larger Acura side view mirrors and higher ground actually contribute to the CD of the superior Acura vehicle. Not to mention the vast superiority of the wider tires Acura puts on its vehicles.
10-24-2010, 08:06 PM
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10-24-2010, 08:29 PM
#320
Okay, I admit.... this is getting good for once 
Love how he never retaliates....
Love how he never retaliates....