Honda: Development and Technology News
10-27-2009, 10:26 AM
#1241
The sizzle in the Steak
If the Oddy goes hybrid.......that's one heavy beast that could use a boost to its city MPG.
10-27-2009, 10:33 AM
#1242
The sizzle in the Steak
How cool would it be if the word was: Civic to be Smaller & Lighter & DIESEL
Now that would get the people excited.
Now that would get the people excited.
10-27-2009, 02:07 PM
#1243
Whats up with RDX owners?
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10-27-2009, 02:58 PM
#1244
Senior Moderator
I hope they don't mean that the sheet metal will be even thinner.
10-27-2009, 03:03 PM
#1245
Race Director
To be able to whore out the platform more this will probably also bring together all Civic models word wide. Not sure about the effect on the CR-V.
With such a rush I'd be weary of the first year model.
With such a rush I'd be weary of the first year model.
10-27-2009, 04:00 PM
#1247
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So they spent all these years making the civic bigger, now they are going to do the opposite. All the while introducing other cars like the Jazz/Fit to fill the hole the civic left behind. What's going to happen to those cars when the civic is made to be smaller again.
10-27-2009, 04:36 PM
#1249
I drive a Subata.
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they need to start spending more on the designs department. 
10-27-2009, 04:40 PM
#1250
Remember the rumor a few weeks ago about a new Acura coupe on the next gen Civic chassis? Maybe there will be two versions, one slightly larger (same as current) for an Acura RSXish car and a trimmer, lighter Civic?
10-27-2009, 05:51 PM
#1251
Whats up with RDX owners?
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At this point I wouldnt be surprised if Honda cancelled the brand.
10-27-2009, 06:50 PM
#1252
Senior Moderator
Until i see it its the same typical BS that honda talks about and never delivers. Hopefully its true without making them even chincier than they are.
10-27-2009, 07:28 PM
#1253
10-27-2009, 07:58 PM
#1255
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Yes, alot of the things I say may sound silly, but thats a result of my constant frustration over possible new vehicles from the Acura camp that never come to fruition.
10-27-2009, 08:15 PM
#1256
Senior Moderator
This is a great move for Honda. The Civic is the same size as the 80's Accord. No way does it need to be that big. As the new CAFE rules roll out, Honda will be prepared.
If anyone is worried about the safety of smaller Civics.....I WALKED AWAY from a multiple rollover accident in my first car, a 1982 Civic DX hatch. Thus began my love affair with Honda......
If anyone is worried about the safety of smaller Civics.....I WALKED AWAY from a multiple rollover accident in my first car, a 1982 Civic DX hatch. Thus began my love affair with Honda......
10-27-2009, 08:33 PM
#1257
I'm all for this change. Less weight = better performance and better fuel economy. They can't just keep making the Civic bigger and bigger.... eventually the Fit will be the new Civic and Honda will need a new car to fill the Fit's old spot. The Civic was an ideal size even 10 years ago 
Good thinking for Honda.
Good thinking for Honda.
10-28-2009, 09:29 AM
#1258
Senior Moderator
I'm all for this change. Less weight = better performance and better fuel economy. They can't just keep making the Civic bigger and bigger.... eventually the Fit will be the new Civic and Honda will need a new car to fill the Fit's old spot. The Civic was an ideal size even 10 years ago
Good thinking for Honda.
Good thinking for Honda.
10-28-2009, 11:01 AM
#1260
Race Director
10-28-2009, 12:38 PM
#1261
11-01-2009, 01:09 AM
#1262
I love my CL and it's hefty 3500lbs. Ride is SOLD interior is QUIET, car does not get tossed around in the wind easily, has excellent traction in the snow. If you make a car smaller on the ouside and larger on the inside something has to give and usually it is the thickness of the doors and cheapening of the suspension (double wishbone to craptastic mcpherson strut). Do you guys really want to see an accord or tl with a mcpherson strut suspension? If that ever happens, the accord will not be an accord anymore.
11-02-2009, 12:39 PM
#1264
Race Director
The economic downturn that canceled some of their car plans doesn't seem to have affected their plans with this jet:
http://world.honda.com/news/2009/c091021HondaJet/
The bean counters must see some promise in that market.
http://world.honda.com/news/2009/c091021HondaJet/
The bean counters must see some promise in that market.
11-02-2009, 11:37 PM
#1265
Honda Fanboy
The economic downturn that canceled some of their car plans doesn't seem to have affected their plans with this jet:
http://world.honda.com/news/2009/c091021HondaJet/
The bean counters must see some promise in that market.
http://world.honda.com/news/2009/c091021HondaJet/
The bean counters must see some promise in that market.
02-01-2010, 04:51 PM
#1266
I feel the need...
Running out of juice
How will we recharge all the electric cars?
http://www.economist.com/daily/colum...34416&fsrc=nwl
Take it to the cars...
IN THE ten years since hybrid electric vehicles first hit the highways and byways of America, they have come to represent 2.5% of new car sales. Yet, in places like Los Angeles, the San Francisco Bay Area and Washington, DC, every other car seems to be a Toyota Prius. That is because hybrids like the Prius have sold overwhelmingly where well-heeled early adopters reside.
Expect the new generation of “Post-Prius” electrics—plug-in hybrids like the Chevrolet Volt from General Motors and those relying only on a battery such as the Nissan Leaf—to end up nosing around the same upscale neighbourhoods. With more than a dozen plug-in and pure-electric models arriving in showrooms over the next year or so, sales are expected to outstrip even those enjoyed by the Prius and other hybrids in their early days. A couple of million of the new electric vehicles could be bought by early adopters during the first few years.
That would be a problem. Unlike the Prius and its ilk—which use their petrol engines, along with energy recovered from braking, to recharge their batteries while motoring—plug-in hybrids and pure electrics have to be recharged direct from the grid. The popular assumption is that they will be plugged into a wall socket in the garage late at night, taking advantage of cheap off-peak power. Unfortunately, things are not that simple......
Expect the new generation of “Post-Prius” electrics—plug-in hybrids like the Chevrolet Volt from General Motors and those relying only on a battery such as the Nissan Leaf—to end up nosing around the same upscale neighbourhoods. With more than a dozen plug-in and pure-electric models arriving in showrooms over the next year or so, sales are expected to outstrip even those enjoyed by the Prius and other hybrids in their early days. A couple of million of the new electric vehicles could be bought by early adopters during the first few years.
That would be a problem. Unlike the Prius and its ilk—which use their petrol engines, along with energy recovered from braking, to recharge their batteries while motoring—plug-in hybrids and pure electrics have to be recharged direct from the grid. The popular assumption is that they will be plugged into a wall socket in the garage late at night, taking advantage of cheap off-peak power. Unfortunately, things are not that simple......
Take it to the cars...
02-01-2010, 05:25 PM
#1267
The sizzle in the Steak
Whether you buy an EV or not...either way you will pay for it dearly.
02-01-2010, 06:02 PM
#1268
AZ Community Team
Good article.
How will we recharge all the electric cars?
http://www.economist.com/daily/colum...34416&fsrc=nwl
Take it to the cars...
http://www.economist.com/daily/colum...34416&fsrc=nwl
Take it to the cars...
04-06-2010, 09:15 AM
#1269
Safety Car
Latest Rumor
The Honda CR-Z has not even landed in showrooms, and already we are hearing rumors about a new, bigger hybrid sports coupe in Japan. At a recent chance meeting, a Honda insider revealed that company is busy working on a next generation hybrid sports coupe that will dwarf the all-new CR-Z in performance. Details of the powerplant are still sketchy, but our source tells us that in place of a planned V-6 hybrid, engineers are leaning toward the incorporation of a cleaner, more fuel efficient 2.5-liter, four-cylinder gas engine attached to Honda's well-known IMA hybrid system, which would lift this coupe's engine capacity by one full liter over the CR-Z. He adds that the V-6 hybrid is being considered as a main powerplant for U.S.-spec minivans and SUVs, which need more grunt.
The vehicle referred to here is a new sports coupe around the same size as the Accord Coupe, and would have four seats. The beauty of a sports hybrid, according to one Honda engineer, as that you can easily tune the car to lean more towards performance or more towards fuel efficiency depending on what you want. And it seems as though a lot of people (in Japan at least) want the new CR-Z, which has already taken in nearly 9000 orders in just one month.
Our source also mentioned that Honda is currently testing a system similar to the Chevy Volt's range extender plug-in hybrid system for the Japanese firm's medium to large passenger cars and SUVs. The difference is that Honda would employ an engine and electric motor setup, which, when all the stored electricity is used, would automatically switch to an on-board capacitor that would further extended its range. This system would reportedly be fitted to vehicles including the next Accord.
The vehicle referred to here is a new sports coupe around the same size as the Accord Coupe, and would have four seats. The beauty of a sports hybrid, according to one Honda engineer, as that you can easily tune the car to lean more towards performance or more towards fuel efficiency depending on what you want. And it seems as though a lot of people (in Japan at least) want the new CR-Z, which has already taken in nearly 9000 orders in just one month.
Our source also mentioned that Honda is currently testing a system similar to the Chevy Volt's range extender plug-in hybrid system for the Japanese firm's medium to large passenger cars and SUVs. The difference is that Honda would employ an engine and electric motor setup, which, when all the stored electricity is used, would automatically switch to an on-board capacitor that would further extended its range. This system would reportedly be fitted to vehicles including the next Accord.
04-06-2010, 10:55 AM
#1272
99 TL, 06 E350
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Bring on the diesels!!!!
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Problem with diesels is that your still burning diesel at a stand still. While the hybrid is shut off. Reason's why city are clogged with polution is that too many cars a re burning gas/diesel at stand still.
Bring on the diesels!!!!
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Problem with diesels is that your still burning diesel at a stand still. While the hybrid is shut off. Reason's why city are clogged with polution is that too many cars a re burning gas/diesel at stand still.
04-06-2010, 11:42 AM
#1273
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Bring on the diesels!!!!
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Problem with diesels is that your still burning diesel at a stand still. While the hybrid is shut off. Reason's why city are clogged with polution is that too many cars a re burning gas/diesel at stand still.
Bring on the diesels!!!!
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Problem with diesels is that your still burning diesel at a stand still. While the hybrid is shut off. Reason's why city are clogged with polution is that too many cars a re burning gas/diesel at stand still.
To see how hybrids compare to their diesel-powered cousins, we pit Europe’s version of the Toyota Prius against the efficient Volkswagen Polo BlueMotion 1, currently only available overseas, in a war of numbers. The Polo is lighter (it weighs almost 500 pounds less) and somewhat smaller, so we expected it to be more fuel efficient. However, we didn’t think it would go 38 percent farther on a gallon of fuel or emit 5 percent fewer greenhouse gases per mile. (We didn’t look at particulates or NOx emissions.) While hybrids might be the green champions, clean diesels can be just as friendly to the environment—possibly even friendlier.
Clean diesel FTW.
04-06-2010, 12:54 PM
#1274
fap fap fap
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Bring on the diesels!!!!
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Problem with diesels is that your still burning diesel at a stand still. While the hybrid is shut off. Reason's why city are clogged with polution is that too many cars a re burning gas/diesel at stand still.
Bring on the diesels!!!!
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Problem with diesels is that your still burning diesel at a stand still. While the hybrid is shut off. Reason's why city are clogged with polution is that too many cars a re burning gas/diesel at stand still.
04-06-2010, 02:13 PM
#1275
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ BMW is due to bring this stateside soon.
04-07-2010, 06:49 AM
#1276
Race Director
04-07-2010, 06:50 AM
#1277
AZ Community Team
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Bring on the diesels!!!!
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Problem with diesels is that your still burning diesel at a stand still. While the hybrid is shut off. Reason's why city are clogged with polution is that too many cars a re burning gas/diesel at stand still.
Bring on the diesels!!!!
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Problem with diesels is that your still burning diesel at a stand still. While the hybrid is shut off. Reason's why city are clogged with polution is that too many cars a re burning gas/diesel at stand still.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/special_...reality_page_3
04-07-2010, 07:00 AM
#1278
AZ Community Team
That's a tired old argument the tree huggers bring up that is no longer true. Passanger cars are not the main problem anymore - buses, trucks, power plants, fireplaces, and other sources of polution make up more and more of the pollution problem and much less of the problem can be laid at the feet of the plain ole passenger vehicle. Even if you took every car off the roads in LA there'd still be that smog that the tree huggers tout as the reason to curb emissions.
Also old cars are a large problem, California government have vans that drive around that do real time air analysis of vehicles, the biggest offenders on the road are cars old cars. And don't forget that 1/4 of the entire world's petroleum output is used for aviation. Even with the best engine management systems modern jets spew out alot of air polution.
04-07-2010, 08:38 AM
#1279
Senior Moderator
When is honda going to ditch the stupid system they have and move on to something like Toyota or better?
