Honda: Civic News
01-07-2011, 09:04 PM
#1761
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Probably most cars would fall into the appliance category. Appliances certainly have their place, as you mentioned...compact family car. But there are certain cars in each segment that are fun, exciting, character cars...just not the Civics of the world. IMO.
01-08-2011, 01:59 AM
#1762
Honda Fanboy
I guess you have yet to look upon a car and see sex on wheels.
I guess you have yet to see a car that stirs your soul.
I guess you have yet to driven a car that blows your mind.
I guess you have yet to see a car that you can just stare at for literal hours...art sculpture on wheels.
I guess you have yet to hear the sound of an engine roar that sounds like a symphony.
I hope you one day get to experience the above.
I guess you have yet to see a car that stirs your soul.
I guess you have yet to driven a car that blows your mind.
I guess you have yet to see a car that you can just stare at for literal hours...art sculpture on wheels.
I guess you have yet to hear the sound of an engine roar that sounds like a symphony.
I hope you one day get to experience the above.
What car in the same class as the Civic does any of the above for you? Your Golf?
01-08-2011, 02:07 AM
#1763
Honda Fanboy
Please name two cars in the same class as the Civic that has a more advanced powertrain that also outperforms it in the real world. I'm not asking you to do my hw, I've done it and didn't find anything. Two sets of eyes are better than one though.
on Honda outperforming the cars that are doing less with more
01-08-2011, 02:14 AM
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Everyone seems to be all up on the looks of the Civic... I think the Civic looks better than its competition. I mean, I think the Civic looks better than the Corolla.
he can come up with next. 
01-08-2011, 08:12 AM
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01-09-2011, 09:14 AM
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Honda's redesigned 2012 Civic compact car will make a long-awaited debut at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit on Monday, a coming-out party in advance of its arrival at dealers in April or May. The as-yet-unseen Civic show car, apparently very close to the real thing, must do more than draw the standard concept-car ooohs and aaaahs.
It must presage a new Civic good enough to prove that Honda (HMC) still has the touch, that it can still roll out cars that make buyers willing to wait in line and pay more than sticker price.
The once-golden car company hardly is a disaster, but it has been drifting in the U.S., unable to capitalize on rival Toyota's recall-fueled slide, losing ground to Ford (F) and Hyundai in the hearts and minds of buyers, and unable to fire anybody's imagination with recent launches of low-volume specialty cars that don't quite make sense to buyers.
"They need a hit," says Ed Kim, director of industry analysis for consultant AutoPacific. "Honda no longer has the edge. In efficiency, technology and design, they are no longer the leader."
Details remain secret, but Honda is promising that this 9th-generation Civic will be "completely revolutionized" and will raise compact-car standards for innovative technology.
Civic is "hugely important to us" and "the emotional pivot point" of the brand, says John Mendel, Honda's executive vice president in the U.S.
Civic is Honda's 2nd-best seller, behind the larger Accord sedan, and in some months has passed Accord. Civic was the 6th-best-selling vehicle of any kind in the U.S. last year and is the car that introduces many buyers to Honda. U.S.-market Civics are made in Ohio, where thousands of jobs depend on the car's success. And the small-car segment overall, in which Civic is a main player, makes up about 1/3 of all U.S. car sales. The small-car category is expected to grow as buyers seek lower prices and better fuel economy.
What's more, if the new Civic misses the bull's-eye, even after being delayed a year to help Honda save cash during the recession, then a struggling Civic becomes both harbinger and symbol of Japanese-brand automakers struggling to rediscover their magic. For decades, Japanese-brand car companies "had the corner on the small-car market. The domestic offerings were not at the same level, did not provide the same quality, value, reliability," says Rebecca Lindland, auto-industry specialist at consultant IHS Global Insight.
"That's changed a lot. We're seeing products coming out" of General Motors (GM), Ford Motor and Chrysler Group "that are incredibly competitive. For example, Chevy Cruze and Ford Focus."
Honda's share of the market was 10.6% last year, down from 11% in 2009. But Mendel points to data showing that competitors gained ground by cranking up heavily discounted bulk sales to corporate and government fleets and rental car agencies, low-profit sales that Honda eschews.
What's going on at Honda
Consequently, he doesn't think Honda has lost its Midas touch. "I don't think there's a mojo deficit at all," Mendel said in an interview at the automaker's U.S. headquarters in Torrance, Calif.
Whatever malaise might be stalking American Honda — the U.S. operation that includes the Honda mainstream brand and the Acura luxury brand — is tricky to define.
"I don't sense that there's a dynamic excitement any more," Lindland says. "It's nothing definitive." But the Honda brand's U.S. sales of 1.1 million last year fell short of the 1.2 million that IHS Global Insight had forecast a year ago.
Honda's main Japanese-brand rivals, Toyota (TM) and Nissan, will be relatively weaker competitors until they redesign their Corolla and Sentra, respectively. A mildly refreshed Corolla is just hitting showrooms; Toyota hasn't said when a full redesign is coming. Even though aging, Corolla still outsold Civic by 5,864 units last year. A new Sentra is about 2 years off, though Nissan plans to unveil another small car at the New York auto show in April.
There could be room for all. A combination of higher gasoline prices and the new small-car entries are expected to boost compact cars to 15.7% of all new car sales, up a percentage point from last year, predicts J.D. Power and Associates.
J.D. Power analyst Jeff Schuster is encouraged about the new Civic. "It looks like it will be a more sporty vehicle that should do well in the segment," he said.
While most Civic buyers match the demographics of the rest of the compact segment — 51, probably no kids at home, mainly interested in reliability and fuel economy — the car's sportier engines and suspensions have lured more driving enthusiasts than rivals have. Young and loyal, they are an important core for Civic and Honda.
Jeff Palmer, who founded the Temple of VTEC website for Honda enthusiasts, is praying the new Civic stays sporty and continues to be "a great car."
Civic, of course, could be a wild hit. Honda "might have a tiger by the tail there. Sometimes you introduce at just the right time," says Jack Nerad, executive market analyst for Kelley Blue Book, mainly known as a source of real-world auto pricing and consumer research.
Toyota taint
But Honda has faced troubles because of Toyota's recalls in the past year. Toyota, the top Japanese car company, recalled more than 7 million vehicles for just 2 problems — improper floor mats and sticky acceleration pedals — that could cause runaway acceleration. Other high-profile recalls involved such frightening issues as potentially faulty brakes. The government imposed two $16.4 million fines against Toyota — the maximum possible — for not reporting the floor-mat and sticky pedal issues promptly. And it separately fined Toyota another $16.1 million for tardy notice of nearly 1 million vehicles with potentially faulty steering relay rods that had been recalled earlier.
"Toyota's trouble didn't benefit Honda," AutoPacific's Kim says. "A lot of those people ended up (shopping for) a Ford for the first time, or a Hyundai the first time." Honda's Mendel says,"We never targeted to take advantage of" Toyota's troubles. "It's not how to win a race."
Instead, Honda focused on its own new models, which Mendel says are hitting sales expectations. Some, though, have seemed out-of-sync with the market:
•CR-Z. The 2-seat, gas-electric hybrid was dinged last month by influential Consumer Reports magazine. CR said, "Even if the CR-Z turns out to be reliable, it scores too low for us to recommend."
The publication cited "a long list of drawbacks" that included stiff ride, poor steering feel, poorly tuned stability control, and "lousy" visibility.
•Insight. Also a hybrid and the car on which CR-Z is based, the Insight is aimed directly at Toyota's Prius and was criticized by CR and others for a cheap interior, mediocre mileage (by hybrid standards) and a noisy powertrain. Honda sold just 21,000 Insights last year; Toyota, 141,000 Priuses.
•Accord Crosstour. Fitted with all-wheel drive, sloping rear roofline and a premium price, this Accord is somewhat modeled on the BMW X6 crossover, but without BMW's "sport-activity vehicle" panache.
•Acura ZDX. Another attempt to blend crossover-utility-vehicle underpinnings with a fastback-sedan body.
Acura spokeswoman Alison Sobkowski points out that ZDX is meant to be a niche player to enhance Acura's image. She says the brand overall had a good sales year. Its 134,000 sales exceed IHS Global Insight's year-ago forecast of 124,000. Acura should benefit because its models are lower-price than better-selling import rivals at a time premium-car buyers are seeking value.The publication cited "a long list of drawbacks" that included stiff ride, poor steering feel, poorly tuned stability control, and "lousy" visibility.
•Insight. Also a hybrid and the car on which CR-Z is based, the Insight is aimed directly at Toyota's Prius and was criticized by CR and others for a cheap interior, mediocre mileage (by hybrid standards) and a noisy powertrain. Honda sold just 21,000 Insights last year; Toyota, 141,000 Priuses.
•Accord Crosstour. Fitted with all-wheel drive, sloping rear roofline and a premium price, this Accord is somewhat modeled on the BMW X6 crossover, but without BMW's "sport-activity vehicle" panache.
•Acura ZDX. Another attempt to blend crossover-utility-vehicle underpinnings with a fastback-sedan body.
Acura also scores high in quality and reliability rankings by 3rd-party evaluators, such as CR and J.D. Power and Associates.
Unfriendly dealers
Honda dealers as a group typically score in the bottom third in J.D. Power's annual Sales Satisfaction Index, a survey of how well new car buyers were treated at the dealership. Last year, for example, Honda dealers as a group were 23rd among 32 brands for which Power had sufficient data. The year before, 25th of 37. The pattern holds all the way back to 2001. As buyers begin to see there are more and more choices, tangential issues such as pleasant dealerships matter more.
Eroding forte
Honda began as an engine-building company and made vehicles simply as a way to package and profit from its engine expertise.
"They are still a very, very good engine company," Lindland says.
But Hyundai is equipping its latest vehicles with ever-more-efficient and sophisticated 4-cylinder power plants. And Ford has a unique selling proposition in its EcoBoost engine line: Those increase power from small engines without sacrificing significant mileage, by using a combination of direct injection and turbocharging.
"The big question for the next Civic: Is it going to be another innovative car, or is it going to be one of the 'safe' Civics?" says AutoPacific's Kim. "Honda has an opportunity to get it" right.
01-09-2011, 10:06 AM
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Whatever malaise might be stalking American Honda — the U.S. operation that includes the Honda mainstream brand and the Acura luxury brand — is tricky to define.
"I don't sense that there's a dynamic excitement any more," Lindland says. "It's nothing definitive."
"I don't sense that there's a dynamic excitement any more," Lindland says. "It's nothing definitive."
"The big question for the next Civic: Is it going to be another innovative car, or is it going to be one of the 'safe' Civics?"
01-09-2011, 02:44 PM
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"Honda dealers as a group typically score in the bottom third in J.D. Power's annual Sales Satisfaction Index, a survey of how well new car buyers were treated at the dealership. Last year, for example, Honda dealers as a group were 23rd among 32 brands for which Power had sufficient data. The year before, 25th of 37. The pattern holds all the way back to 2001. As buyers begin to see there are more and more choices, tangential issues such as pleasant dealerships matter more."
Honda dealers are bad? If they actually did all the dealers in North America or not, but the one in the Bay Area (Honda of Serramontee) they are nice as hell. Really friendly.
"While most Civic buyers match the demographics of the rest of the compact segment — 51, probably no kids at home, mainly interested in reliability and fuel economy — the car's sportier engines and suspensions have lured more driving enthusiasts than rivals have. Young and loyal, they are an important core for Civic and Honda."
Funny, I thought most Civic drivers were people with kids and married. And also I thought most Civic drivers were kids in their early young adult area, because parents want their kids first car to be safe and cheap aka the Civic. I actually barely see anyone that gets labeled as 51, no kids at home, and only interested in reliability/MPG drive a Civic. I see mostly young adults or teenagers and families.
Honda dealers are bad? If they actually did all the dealers in North America or not, but the one in the Bay Area (Honda of Serramontee) they are nice as hell. Really friendly.
"While most Civic buyers match the demographics of the rest of the compact segment — 51, probably no kids at home, mainly interested in reliability and fuel economy — the car's sportier engines and suspensions have lured more driving enthusiasts than rivals have. Young and loyal, they are an important core for Civic and Honda."
Funny, I thought most Civic drivers were people with kids and married. And also I thought most Civic drivers were kids in their early young adult area, because parents want their kids first car to be safe and cheap aka the Civic. I actually barely see anyone that gets labeled as 51, no kids at home, and only interested in reliability/MPG drive a Civic. I see mostly young adults or teenagers and families.
01-09-2011, 02:46 PM
#1771
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Ive never been to a bad Honda dealer.
Nissan on the other hand....
Nissan on the other hand....
01-09-2011, 05:49 PM
#1772
Suzuka Master
Mazda 3 is the first thing that comes to mind. Maybe a vw golf. 12' focus looks promising.
01-09-2011, 05:51 PM
#1773
Suzuka Master
I'm not trying to bash honda, but the civic is just a boring, dull car that gets the job done.
edit: about the dealer thing, I havent visited a bad honda/acura dealer. Although I've only been to one in particular, but they are friendly and do the best to help you out.
edit: about the dealer thing, I havent visited a bad honda/acura dealer. Although I've only been to one in particular, but they are friendly and do the best to help you out.
01-09-2011, 05:59 PM
#1774
Suzuka Master
"Honda dealers as a group typically score in the bottom third in J.D. Power's annual Sales Satisfaction Index, a survey of how well new car buyers were treated at the dealership. Last year, for example, Honda dealers as a group were 23rd among 32 brands for which Power had sufficient data. The year before, 25th of 37. The pattern holds all the way back to 2001. As buyers begin to see there are more and more choices, tangential issues such as pleasant dealerships matter more."
Honda dealers are bad? If they actually did all the dealers in North America or not, but the one in the Bay Area (Honda of Serramontee) they are nice as hell. Really friendly.
"While most Civic buyers match the demographics of the rest of the compact segment — 51, probably no kids at home, mainly interested in reliability and fuel economy — the car's sportier engines and suspensions have lured more driving enthusiasts than rivals have. Young and loyal, they are an important core for Civic and Honda."
Funny, I thought most Civic drivers were people with kids and married. And also I thought most Civic drivers were kids in their early young adult area, because parents want their kids first car to be safe and cheap aka the Civic. I actually barely see anyone that gets labeled as 51, no kids at home, and only interested in reliability/MPG drive a Civic. I see mostly young adults or teenagers and families.
Honda dealers are bad? If they actually did all the dealers in North America or not, but the one in the Bay Area (Honda of Serramontee) they are nice as hell. Really friendly.
"While most Civic buyers match the demographics of the rest of the compact segment — 51, probably no kids at home, mainly interested in reliability and fuel economy — the car's sportier engines and suspensions have lured more driving enthusiasts than rivals have. Young and loyal, they are an important core for Civic and Honda."
Funny, I thought most Civic drivers were people with kids and married. And also I thought most Civic drivers were kids in their early young adult area, because parents want their kids first car to be safe and cheap aka the Civic. I actually barely see anyone that gets labeled as 51, no kids at home, and only interested in reliability/MPG drive a Civic. I see mostly young adults or teenagers and families.
01-09-2011, 07:07 PM
#1775
Honda Fanboy
All the cars compared are new models while the Civic has been here since 2005.
01-09-2011, 07:16 PM
#1776
Suzuka Master
Mazda 3 has a similar powertrain but still gets less gas mileage than the Civic. The Golf, which is in a class below the Civic, gets worse mileage than an Acura TSX, despite having a more advanced powertrain and being half the size. Focus also gets less gas mileage than a Civic.
All the cars compared are new models while the Civic has been here since 2005.
All the cars compared are new models while the Civic has been here since 2005.
Now, Mazda 3 is more fun to drive, probably the most spirited car in this class. The golf is not in a class below the civic. The quality of the golf is probably a class ahead of the rest. And its also more spirited than the civic, but I'd say not as much as the mazda 3.
01-09-2011, 08:36 PM
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The reason its so high is because only a handful of kids can get cars. The avg income is roughly $40,000 I believe. So I wouldnt expect it to be that low. Older people have to buy cars too, and seeing how most of our population is made up of older people because of the baby boom, you can expect it to be high(although I would have guessed 40 something)
01-10-2011, 06:13 AM
#1779
2 competitors were asked to be named. and they were.
I'd throw in the new Elantra as well, which is expected to achieve 40mpg on all models.
01-10-2011, 06:26 AM
#1780
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01-10-2011, 12:48 PM
#1781
Honda Fanboy
I asked for two competitors that outperform the Civic. The two that were given do not outperform it. I would say yes, it is the competitors fault for releasing a car in 2010 that cannot perform another in the same class that was released in 2005 (Civic). The 2011 Elantra has already been shown to be slower and get less mileage than the Civic in the real world.
01-10-2011, 01:15 PM
#1782
My first Avatar....
^ the resemblance to ssftsx is astonishing.
01-10-2011, 01:17 PM
#1783
Safety Car
Press Release for Si
The Honda Civic Si Concept coupe and Civic Concept sedan are making world debuts at the North American International Auto Show today, providing the first official glimpse at the styling direction of the all-new, 9th-generation 2012 model set to go on sale this spring, the company announced.
"The Civic is known for providing a balance of 'just-right' packaging, fun-to-drive character and outstanding fuel economy, at a price that even first-time buyers can afford," said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda. "The redesigned Civic builds on this legacy and promises to be the best Civic yet."
The 2012 Civic embraces the company's vision as a "Civic for all people," a phrase originally expressed in defining the goal of the first-generation Civic. With the widest array of engine choices available in its class, the 2012 Civic lineup intends to meet the needs of an increasing group of compact-vehicle buyers with a renewed vision of a "Civic for all people." The diverse vehicle range includes a sedan and a coupe with conventional gasoline models, 2 sporty "Si" performance versions, along with one hybrid and a natural gas alternative-fuel variant. Collectively the depth of the Civic line offers a compelling balance between fuel economy, low emissions and fun-to-drive performance unlike any other vehicle in the industry.
As a new interpretation of the current Civic's iconic "1-motion" mono-form shape, the upcoming, 9th-generation Civic conveys a more substantial, high-energy appearance. The exterior styling of both Civic concept models showcases the sedan's and coupe's clean-yet-powerful lines with steeply raked windshields, wide stances and pronounced character lines along the profile. The lower character line on both models broadens toward the rear fenders to enhance the dynamic feeling of forward energy. The front fender surface treatments form a complex, three-dimensional look to further enhance the image of sophistication and structural depth against the deeply set headlights.
The Civic Concept sedan takes on a sophisticated presence with a front grille defined by crisp lines and a solid bar that integrates a chrome Honda emblem. The look of the Civic Si Concept coupe conveys an aggressive demeanor with a more angular front fascia, mesh grille and a tapered rear roofline that flows smoothly into the trunk. The Civic Si Concept coupe is exclusively equipped with a rear air diffuser, a center-mounted exhaust outlet and a rear deck lid spoiler with dual vents. Each concept model has 19-inch machined alloy wheels.
Powertrain Technology
The Civic's family of engines with "intelligent" Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (i-VTEC®) technology become even more fuel efficient for 2012. The upcoming Civic Hybrid offers the latest generation of the compact and lightweight Integrated Motor Assist™ (IMA™) gasoline-electric hybrid system and features the first application of a lithium-ion battery in a Honda hybrid.
Building on its emphasis on fuel-economy, most upcoming Civic models receive Honda Eco Assist™ technology, already available in the CR-Z and Insight hybrids. The 2012 Civic is the first U.S. Honda model to employ Eco Assist technology in a gasoline-only powered vehicle. Eco Assist is just one example of how the new Civic can be customized and configured by the drivers to suit individual preferences.
Additionally, Honda is expanding retail sales of the natural gas-powered Civic GX model, which is the only OEM-built, dedicated CNG passenger car assembled in America. The increased availability of the Civic GX helps bring inherently clean-burning natural gas technology to an even broader audience while also supporting diversity in transportation energy resources.
Safety
The 2012 Civic continues to emphasize safety and is anticipated to score well in both the federal government's New Car Assessment Program1 (NCAP) and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety2 (IIHS) vehicle evaluations. The 2001 Honda Civic Coupe was 1 of the 1st 2 passenger cars ever to earn the federal government's top 5-star crash safety rating3 for the driver and front- and rear-seat passengers in both frontal and side-impact crash tests.
All 2012 Civics are equipped with Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®) as standard equipment. Additionally, the 9th-generation Civic continues to provide Honda's exclusive and innovative Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure for frontal collision energy management.
"The Civic is known for providing a balance of 'just-right' packaging, fun-to-drive character and outstanding fuel economy, at a price that even first-time buyers can afford," said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda. "The redesigned Civic builds on this legacy and promises to be the best Civic yet."
The 2012 Civic embraces the company's vision as a "Civic for all people," a phrase originally expressed in defining the goal of the first-generation Civic. With the widest array of engine choices available in its class, the 2012 Civic lineup intends to meet the needs of an increasing group of compact-vehicle buyers with a renewed vision of a "Civic for all people." The diverse vehicle range includes a sedan and a coupe with conventional gasoline models, 2 sporty "Si" performance versions, along with one hybrid and a natural gas alternative-fuel variant. Collectively the depth of the Civic line offers a compelling balance between fuel economy, low emissions and fun-to-drive performance unlike any other vehicle in the industry.
As a new interpretation of the current Civic's iconic "1-motion" mono-form shape, the upcoming, 9th-generation Civic conveys a more substantial, high-energy appearance. The exterior styling of both Civic concept models showcases the sedan's and coupe's clean-yet-powerful lines with steeply raked windshields, wide stances and pronounced character lines along the profile. The lower character line on both models broadens toward the rear fenders to enhance the dynamic feeling of forward energy. The front fender surface treatments form a complex, three-dimensional look to further enhance the image of sophistication and structural depth against the deeply set headlights.
The Civic Concept sedan takes on a sophisticated presence with a front grille defined by crisp lines and a solid bar that integrates a chrome Honda emblem. The look of the Civic Si Concept coupe conveys an aggressive demeanor with a more angular front fascia, mesh grille and a tapered rear roofline that flows smoothly into the trunk. The Civic Si Concept coupe is exclusively equipped with a rear air diffuser, a center-mounted exhaust outlet and a rear deck lid spoiler with dual vents. Each concept model has 19-inch machined alloy wheels.
Powertrain Technology
The Civic's family of engines with "intelligent" Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (i-VTEC®) technology become even more fuel efficient for 2012. The upcoming Civic Hybrid offers the latest generation of the compact and lightweight Integrated Motor Assist™ (IMA™) gasoline-electric hybrid system and features the first application of a lithium-ion battery in a Honda hybrid.
Building on its emphasis on fuel-economy, most upcoming Civic models receive Honda Eco Assist™ technology, already available in the CR-Z and Insight hybrids. The 2012 Civic is the first U.S. Honda model to employ Eco Assist technology in a gasoline-only powered vehicle. Eco Assist is just one example of how the new Civic can be customized and configured by the drivers to suit individual preferences.
Additionally, Honda is expanding retail sales of the natural gas-powered Civic GX model, which is the only OEM-built, dedicated CNG passenger car assembled in America. The increased availability of the Civic GX helps bring inherently clean-burning natural gas technology to an even broader audience while also supporting diversity in transportation energy resources.
Safety
The 2012 Civic continues to emphasize safety and is anticipated to score well in both the federal government's New Car Assessment Program1 (NCAP) and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety2 (IIHS) vehicle evaluations. The 2001 Honda Civic Coupe was 1 of the 1st 2 passenger cars ever to earn the federal government's top 5-star crash safety rating3 for the driver and front- and rear-seat passengers in both frontal and side-impact crash tests.
All 2012 Civics are equipped with Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®) as standard equipment. Additionally, the 9th-generation Civic continues to provide Honda's exclusive and innovative Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure for frontal collision energy management.
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01-10-2011, 01:30 PM
#1784
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Looks good. I like the Si coupe. 
01-10-2011, 01:34 PM
#1785
The sizzle in the Steak
The rear on the Si is a bit odd.....I'd like to see some better pics.
01-10-2011, 01:37 PM
#1786
Midnight Marauder
Some higher resolution images.
01-10-2011, 01:38 PM
#1787
The sizzle in the Steak
01-10-2011, 01:41 PM
#1788
The sizzle in the Steak
01-10-2011, 01:43 PM
#1789
Senior Moderator
Must say, they look pretty good. Although I hope that single, centered exhaust on the coupe doesn't make production.
Only questions now are power trains and how closely the production cars will resemble these concepts. These are likely 90-95%.
Only questions now are power trains and how closely the production cars will resemble these concepts. These are likely 90-95%.
01-10-2011, 01:47 PM
#1790
The sizzle in the Steak
Powertrain Technology
The Civic's family of engines with "intelligent" Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (i-VTEC®) technology become even more fuel efficient for 2012. The upcoming Civic Hybrid offers the latest generation of the compact and lightweight Integrated Motor Assist™ (IMA™) gasoline-electric hybrid system and features the first application of a lithium-ion battery in a Honda hybrid.
Building on its emphasis on fuel-economy, most upcoming Civic models receive Honda Eco Assist™ technology, already available in the CR-Z and Insight hybrids. The 2012 Civic is the first U.S. Honda model to employ Eco Assist technology in a gasoline-only powered vehicle. Eco Assist is just one example of how the new Civic can be customized and configured by the drivers to suit individual preferences.
Additionally, Honda is expanding retail sales of the natural gas-powered Civic GX model, which is the only OEM-built, dedicated CNG passenger car assembled in America. The increased availability of the Civic GX helps bring inherently clean-burning natural gas technology to an even broader audience while also supporting diversity in transportation energy resources.
The Civic's family of engines with "intelligent" Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (i-VTEC®) technology become even more fuel efficient for 2012. The upcoming Civic Hybrid offers the latest generation of the compact and lightweight Integrated Motor Assist™ (IMA™) gasoline-electric hybrid system and features the first application of a lithium-ion battery in a Honda hybrid.
Building on its emphasis on fuel-economy, most upcoming Civic models receive Honda Eco Assist™ technology, already available in the CR-Z and Insight hybrids. The 2012 Civic is the first U.S. Honda model to employ Eco Assist technology in a gasoline-only powered vehicle. Eco Assist is just one example of how the new Civic can be customized and configured by the drivers to suit individual preferences.
Additionally, Honda is expanding retail sales of the natural gas-powered Civic GX model, which is the only OEM-built, dedicated CNG passenger car assembled in America. The increased availability of the Civic GX helps bring inherently clean-burning natural gas technology to an even broader audience while also supporting diversity in transportation energy resources.
...and yes, that center exhaust needs to go.
looks good tho., after all the screw ups, it can't get any worse, lol.
01-10-2011, 02:35 PM
#1794
Senior Moderator
At least it looks better than the current Civic.
01-10-2011, 03:02 PM
#1796
01-10-2011, 03:49 PM
#1799
It'll be good competition for the Civic 