Honda: Civic News
#1723
The sizzle in the Steak
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I'm sure those comments were just what Honda was looking for.
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Clearly Ford and Hyundai have nothing to fear with the new Civic.
#1724
Safety Car
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The Honda Civic is once again Canada’s most popular new car purchase.
2010 marked the 13th consecutive year the sub-compact sedan built in Ontario topped the Canadian new car yearly sales charts.
Last year’s deliveries totalled 57,501 units, contributing to the nearly 1.6 million Honda Civics that have been sold in Canada since 1973.
“We thank the thousands of Canadians who bought Honda Civic models this past year to make it Canada’s number one car for the 13th year in a row,” said Jerry Chenkin, executive vice president of Honda Canada Inc. “We appreciate and value these new car buyers’ vote of confidence in Civic."
“With the exception of the Civic Hybrid, all Civic models sold in Canada are made here in Canada,” added Chenkin. Of the more than 5.3 million Honda and Acura vehicles produced at the Honda of Canada Mfg. assembly plants in Alliston, Ontario over the past 24 years, more than 3 million have been Honda Civics.
An all-new 2012-model Civic (the 9th generation of the brand) will go on sale in spring 2011.
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#1727
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ I wish we could sing the praises of Honda.....but they give us nothing.
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#1728
I feel the need...
#1730
Honda Fanboy
#1731
The sizzle in the Steak
#1732
אני עומד עם ישראל
Eh it aint terrible. This rendition is better then I expected....
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#1734
My first Avatar....
civic = eh...whatever...
#1735
Honda Fanboy
YTD Sales:
Fiesta: 23,273
Forte: 68,500
Elantra: 132,246
3: 106,353
Civic: 260,218
The Civic in its final year is selling twice as much as the next closest competitor. Every single car on that list was new for 2010 or 2011 while the current Civic has been on sale since 2005.
Fiesta: 23,273
Forte: 68,500
Elantra: 132,246
3: 106,353
Civic: 260,218
The Civic in its final year is selling twice as much as the next closest competitor. Every single car on that list was new for 2010 or 2011 while the current Civic has been on sale since 2005.
#1736
Burning Brakes
YTD Sales:
Fiesta: 23,273
Forte: 68,500
Elantra: 132,246
3: 106,353
Civic: 260,218
The Civic in its final year is selling twice as much as the next closest competitor. Every single car on that list was new for 2010 or 2011 while the current Civic has been on sale since 2005.
Fiesta: 23,273
Forte: 68,500
Elantra: 132,246
3: 106,353
Civic: 260,218
The Civic in its final year is selling twice as much as the next closest competitor. Every single car on that list was new for 2010 or 2011 while the current Civic has been on sale since 2005.
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#1737
^
though some people are better left unquoted....
and for those bashing the illustration, say what you will, but looking at this bores me to tears:
![](http://www.autobytel.com/images/2006/honda/civicsedan/400/2006_Civic_Sedan_08.jpg)
The rendition is an improvement... to each his own. The 8G Civic looks very uninspired, and while the rendition looks derivative almost, it still looks better
The Civic has never been a big attention grabber anyways.
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and for those bashing the illustration, say what you will, but looking at this bores me to tears:
![](http://www.autobytel.com/images/2006/honda/civicsedan/400/2006_Civic_Sedan_08.jpg)
The rendition is an improvement... to each his own. The 8G Civic looks very uninspired, and while the rendition looks derivative almost, it still looks better
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#1739
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Honda and Toyota could literally slap wheels on a
and Civic and Corolla will continue to sell 250K+. It will take a setback of epic proportions for them to screw this up. Not going to happen. The only 2 cars that could challenge them are the new Cruze and Focus. Even then, fat chance. The name Civic & Corolla are to the compact segment what 3 Series is to entry level luxury. Enough to carry sales on name alone if it has to.
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#1740
The sizzle in the Steak
YTD Sales:
Fiesta: 23,273
Forte: 68,500
Elantra: 132,246
3: 106,353
Civic: 260,218
The Civic in its final year is selling twice as much as the next closest competitor. Every single car on that list was new for 2010 or 2011 while the current Civic has been on sale since 2005.
Fiesta: 23,273
Forte: 68,500
Elantra: 132,246
3: 106,353
Civic: 260,218
The Civic in its final year is selling twice as much as the next closest competitor. Every single car on that list was new for 2010 or 2011 while the current Civic has been on sale since 2005.
#1741
Racer
I will say that I am quite impressed by the Elantra. Lots of bang for your buck over at the Hyundai store.
Not a big fan of the Cruze for some reason though... I much prefer the '12 Focus in domestic small cars.
That rendering looks ok. I'm sure it'll provide reliable transportation for millions, and that's all that a lot of buyers are looking for.
Not a big fan of the Cruze for some reason though... I much prefer the '12 Focus in domestic small cars.
That rendering looks ok. I'm sure it'll provide reliable transportation for millions, and that's all that a lot of buyers are looking for.
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I see a lot of praises for the new Elantra. I'm guessing that's because the new model is a huge improvement over the previous gen. It sure has attractive styling and its EPA rating is pretty good too at 29/40mpg. That's slightly better than the current Civic's rating, which is 30/38. However, C/D only managed to get 26mpg in the real world in the Elantra. C/D was able to get 33mpg in the current Civic. Performance wise, the current Civic can do 0-60mph in 7.7s while the new Elantra can do the same in 8.6s. The Civic had a manual gearbox while the Elantra has one extra gear ratio.
links:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...1d516c5ccf.pdf
#1743
Honda Fanboy
It's ALL about sales. What good is a good looking car if nobody buys it and the company who sold it to you isn't going to be around in five years? The Civic is designed to appeal to the masses, not just to the kid who drives his moms van back and forth to work.
Thankfully, the average consumer has more common sense and realizes that design is close to the bottom of the decision factors that affect their buying decision. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...tors/index.htm
Thankfully, the average consumer has more common sense and realizes that design is close to the bottom of the decision factors that affect their buying decision. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...tors/index.htm
#1744
The sizzle in the Steak
It's ALL about sales. What good is a good looking car if nobody buys it and the company who sold it to you isn't going to be around in five years? The Civic is designed to appeal to the masses, not just to the kid who drives his moms van back and forth to work.
Thankfully, the average consumer has more common sense and realizes that design is close to the bottom of the decision factors that affect their buying decision. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...tors/index.htm
Thankfully, the average consumer has more common sense and realizes that design is close to the bottom of the decision factors that affect their buying decision. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...tors/index.htm
Nobody really cares about sales figures.
As if ......."Wow! Look at those sales numbers for that ugly car! So impressive!...makes me want to go out and buy it!!!"
Civic can sell billions.....if it's a polished turd, who cares?
If the Civic was a beautiful design with an up to date powertrain....and sold only 2.....I'd be in love with it.
Sales numbers?
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#1745
#1746
Honda Fanboy
Sorry, this forum is not filled with average customers. We are car enthusiasts.
Nobody really cares about sales figures.
As if ......."Wow! Look at those sales numbers for that ugly car! So impressive!...makes me want to go out and buy it!!!"
Civic can sell billions.....if it's a polished turd, who cares?
If the Civic was a beautiful design with an up to date powertrain....and sold only 2.....I'd be in love with it.
Sales numbers?
Who cares?!?!
Nobody really cares about sales figures.
As if ......."Wow! Look at those sales numbers for that ugly car! So impressive!...makes me want to go out and buy it!!!"
Civic can sell billions.....if it's a polished turd, who cares?
If the Civic was a beautiful design with an up to date powertrain....and sold only 2.....I'd be in love with it.
Sales numbers?
![Chuckle](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/chuckle.gif)
Ugly is subjective. When a car is the number one selling (retail) car in its class, it can't be ugly in everyones eyes. Civic is not a polished turd. Clearly you have a different set of standards compared to the average person or even enthusiast when it comes to buying a car.
#1747
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Speak for yourself. I am a car enthusiast and I care about sales figures.
Ugly is subjective. When a car is the number one selling (retail) car in its class, it can't be ugly in everyones eyes. Civic is not a polished turd. Clearly you have a different set of standards compared to the average person or even enthusiast when it comes to buying a car.
Ugly is subjective. When a car is the number one selling (retail) car in its class, it can't be ugly in everyones eyes. Civic is not a polished turd. Clearly you have a different set of standards compared to the average person or even enthusiast when it comes to buying a car.
They are not an "exciting" alternative. Mazda 3 for example offers a little excitement in the class.
#1748
Sorry, this forum is not filled with average customers. We are car enthusiasts.
Nobody really cares about sales figures.
As if ......."Wow! Look at those sales numbers for that ugly car! So impressive!...makes me want to go out and buy it!!!"
Civic can sell billions.....if it's a polished turd, who cares?
If the Civic was a beautiful design with an up to date powertrain....and sold only 2.....I'd be in love with it.
Sales numbers?
Who cares?!?!
Nobody really cares about sales figures.
As if ......."Wow! Look at those sales numbers for that ugly car! So impressive!...makes me want to go out and buy it!!!"
Civic can sell billions.....if it's a polished turd, who cares?
If the Civic was a beautiful design with an up to date powertrain....and sold only 2.....I'd be in love with it.
Sales numbers?
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I only go into the "monthly car sales" threads for the talks about specific cars, who gives a damn about how much a car sells in a month, really, unless you work for one of those companies, have stock invested in them, or have a blood oath to them or something. I still think those threads are a little ridiculous, though there are some interesting reads when you sift through the filler.
Personally, when I go car shopping I never look at sales figures. Why? A big corporation's sales success has zero relevance to me... I have no idea why it keeps getting brought up in defense of the Honda/Acura lineup. You could turn it around and say the same thing for Toyota, who despite the recalls and quality issues they've encountered for the past few years, managed to be the best selling car company in all of 2010.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/01/05/d...t-selling-car/
Does that make me want a Camry any more than I already do (not want)? Hell no.
#1749
The sizzle in the Steak
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I think (from what I see so far....which could change when we see the final product) this car is a fail on exterior design.
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#1750
The sizzle in the Steak
Speak for yourself. I am a car enthusiast and I care about sales figures.
Ugly is subjective. When a car is the number one selling (retail) car in its class, it can't be ugly in everyones eyes. Civic is not a polished turd. Clearly you have a different set of standards compared to the average person or even enthusiast when it comes to buying a car.
Ugly is subjective. When a car is the number one selling (retail) car in its class, it can't be ugly in everyones eyes. Civic is not a polished turd. Clearly you have a different set of standards compared to the average person or even enthusiast when it comes to buying a car.
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Then why argue your points?
Nobody said the civic is a polished turd (please note the word "if")...no need to waste time arguing this point.
You seem to be the only one in here that loves the new design
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....and accountants and executives care about car sales figures....maybe fanbois too
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Enthusiasts care about the car....PERIOD.
#1751
AZ Community Team
#1752
The sizzle in the Steak
No need for sales figures to prove the 4G TL is a failure.
...just look at it.![Snicker](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/emot-laugh.gif)
Guarantee: The next 5G TL will look nothing like the 4G. Acura will not go with an evolution design based on the 4G. I think Acura is going to go with the old Lexus design language of vanilla.(even thought Lexus is running away from the vanilla....or so they say)
...just look at it.
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Guarantee: The next 5G TL will look nothing like the 4G. Acura will not go with an evolution design based on the 4G. I think Acura is going to go with the old Lexus design language of vanilla.(even thought Lexus is running away from the vanilla....or so they say)
#1753
AZ Community Team
The civic is simply a reliable appliance. A conveyance that won't let you down. A proven commodity. Those qualities hold a certain value for the average person. That is why the average person buys it without giving it a second thought.
They are not an "exciting" alternative. Mazda 3 for example offers a little excitement in the class.
They are not an "exciting" alternative. Mazda 3 for example offers a little excitement in the class.
#1754
My first Avatar....
Depends on which generation Civic, the 7G was a appliance but the 8G is a fairly exciting car. I can understand folks not liking the interior/exterior styling of the 8G Civic but it's not conventional or average. My Mom had a 7G Civic and my brother has a 8G. There's little comparison between them, the 8G is so much better and also fun to drive and toss into turns.
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#1755
Honda Fanboy
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Then why argue your points?
Nobody said the civic is a polished turd (please note the word "if")...no need to waste time arguing this point.
You seem to be the only one in here that loves the new design
![Shrug](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
....and accountants and executives care about car sales figures....maybe fanbois too
![Ponder](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/ponder.gif)
Enthusiasts care about the car....PERIOD.
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I never said I love the design either. I guess you missed the part that I said it's almost as boring as the new Jetta.
A true enthusiast cares about sales figures because it is sales figures (among other things) that will allow their manufacturer of choice to offer more or less cars with more or less options. If Honda made a mid-engine Civic that looked like a Ferrari with an 8-speed transmission that sold only 500 units and severely damaged the company financially to the point where they would no longer be able to continue development of further products, would you be okay with that? Probably so because hey at least it looked good while trying. You want advanced powertrains but what good are those advanced powertrains going to do for you when the Civic outperforms them all in real-world tests? For bragging rights? Doing more with less is how Honda has always done it and they continue to outperform the cars that are doing less with more.
Like you said, enthusiasts care about the car, and a car is WAY more than skin deep, which seems to be your sole criteria of accepting or dismissing a car.
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#1757
The sizzle in the Steak
Nobody said that anybody did say the Civic is a polished turd, why are you even bringing that up? ![Confused](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
I never said I love the design either. I guess you missed the part that I said it's almost as boring as the new Jetta.
A true enthusiast cares about sales figures because it is sales figures (among other things) that will allow their manufacturer of choice to offer more or less cars with more or less options. If Honda made a mid-engine Civic that looked like a Ferrari with an 8-speed transmission that sold only 500 units and severely damaged the company financially to the point where they would no longer be able to continue development of further products, would you be okay with that? Probably so because hey at least it looked good while trying. You want advanced powertrains but what good are those advanced powertrains going to do for you when the Civic outperforms them all in real-world tests? For bragging rights? Doing more with less is how Honda has always done it and they continue to outperform the cars that are doing less with more.
Like you said, enthusiasts care about the car, and a car is WAY more than skin deep, which seems to be your sole criteria of accepting or dismissing a car.
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I never said I love the design either. I guess you missed the part that I said it's almost as boring as the new Jetta.
A true enthusiast cares about sales figures because it is sales figures (among other things) that will allow their manufacturer of choice to offer more or less cars with more or less options. If Honda made a mid-engine Civic that looked like a Ferrari with an 8-speed transmission that sold only 500 units and severely damaged the company financially to the point where they would no longer be able to continue development of further products, would you be okay with that? Probably so because hey at least it looked good while trying. You want advanced powertrains but what good are those advanced powertrains going to do for you when the Civic outperforms them all in real-world tests? For bragging rights? Doing more with less is how Honda has always done it and they continue to outperform the cars that are doing less with more.
Like you said, enthusiasts care about the car, and a car is WAY more than skin deep, which seems to be your sole criteria of accepting or dismissing a car.
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Sales? Who cares?
I could care less if a mfg. goes under. I'm not a brand fanboi. I'm a car enthusiast regardless of the badge or maker.
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Meh, why are all of you talking about the looks of the Civic? Since when do Civic owners buy the cars to claim "Hey, look at me I drive a sexy ass Civic" Never. The Civic is more of a compact family car, which are for people with family and kids. I mean if you are married with kids, why do you even need flashy car? Who are you trying to show off to? And if you want a flashy car, why are you looking at the Civic? The Civic's job is for the average family.
#1759
The sizzle in the Steak
I guess you have yet to see a car that stirs your soul.
I guess you have yet to driven a car that blows your mind.
I guess you have yet to see a car that you can just stare at for literal hours...art sculpture on wheels.
I guess you have yet to hear the sound of an engine roar that sounds like a symphony.
I hope you one day get to experience the above.
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I guess you have yet to look upon a car and see sex on wheels.
I guess you have yet to see a car that stirs your soul.
I guess you have yet to driven a car that blows your mind.
I guess you have yet to see a car that you can just stare at for literal hours...art sculpture on wheels.
I guess you have yet to hear the sound of an engine roar that sounds like a symphony.
I hope you one day get to experience the above.
I guess you have yet to see a car that stirs your soul.
I guess you have yet to driven a car that blows your mind.
I guess you have yet to see a car that you can just stare at for literal hours...art sculpture on wheels.
I guess you have yet to hear the sound of an engine roar that sounds like a symphony.
I hope you one day get to experience the above.
I own an E92 M3.... which I think I completed your list? N/A V8, my favorite sound. BMW M3 racing history that projects an image that this car has legacy and soul.