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Old 07-02-2007, 01:49 PM
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I'd buy that if I was rich.
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meh...in the end, it is still just a civic.
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That's a souped-up Acura CSX Type-S in Mugen trim. CSX is only available in Canada.
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
That's a souped-up Acura CSX Type-S in Mugen trim. CSX is only available in Canada.

I'm pretty sure it's a JDM Civic.
Old 07-03-2007, 03:16 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's a JDM Civic.
It is indeed a JDM Civic. What I'm saying is that the the Canadian CSX has exactly the same body style, only minus all the Mugen trimmings.
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It's a 240hp car that weighs less than 2800lbs. There's a world of difference between it and the CSX.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
It's a 240hp car that weighs less than 2800lbs. There's a world of difference between it and the CSX.
But wouldn't you really rather have an S2000?
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Red face June Sales

Civic sales for the month of June went up 33.6% in comparison to last June to a total of 36,512. The hybrid sold 3,246, up 20.2%.

For a while it looked like the new Civic may have been a bomb based upon the slipping sales but these last 2 months have been quite the opposite. Perhaps production was cut in favor of the CR-V (which is also having amazing sales of almost 20,000 last month; increase of 53.2%) ... or perhaps they really were pushing sales of the Accord more earlier this year (altho the opposite seems to be true now as the Accord was having amazing sales increases but that stopped the same month the Civic started having big increases).

Which ever the case may be, last month it even outsold the Corolla for the 1st time in I do not know how long.
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But wouldn't you really rather have an S2000?
I'd rather have an Exige.
Old 07-03-2007, 09:27 PM
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Which ever the case may be, last month it even outsold the Corolla for the 1st time in I do not know how long.
Only a few years since the current Corolla has outsold the Civic. For the longest time ever, the Civic was handily outselling the Corolla, at least in the US.
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So, should the title of thread be changed?
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2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si Sedan Set for Fall Release

Date posted: 07-23-2007

TORRANCE, Calif. — A factory-prepared 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si Sedan will debut in mid-October, American Honda Motor announced today. The Civic Mugen Si Sedan is equipped with a high-performance suspension, forged aluminum wheels, aerodynamic body styling and a sport-tuned exhaust system.

"Honda enthusiasts have long been asking for factory-installed Mugen performance products similar to what the company offers in Japan," said John Mendel, executive vice president of American Honda. "We're enthusiasts, too, and the ultra-premium Civic Mugen Si Sedan offers exclusive style and elevated handling performance with legendary Honda refinement."

The track-tuned suspension, tested at the Twin Ring Motegi racing circuit in Japan, lowers the vehicle by 0.6 inch with aggressive spring and damper tuning for enhanced handling performance and ride comfort. Compared to the conventional Civic Si Sedan, front and rear damping force were increased between 8 and 24 percent. Other modifications include lightweight 16.98-pound 18x7.5-inch forged aluminum wheels and high-grip BFGoodrich g-Force KDW 215/40ZR18 summer tires. An aero package adds a front spoiler with a sports grille, side spoilers, a rear bumper diffuser and a rear wing.

The sport exhaust system reduces backpressure from the catalytic converter back. The Civic Mugen Si Sedan will be available exclusively in Fiji Blue Pearl and include front and rear Mugen emblems.

The limited-production vehicle (maximum of 1,000 units for the 2008 model year) will have a retail price of less than $30,000 when it goes on sale and includes a full factory warranty.

What this means to you: Get ready for an exclusive and high-performance Civic sedan.
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Old 07-24-2007, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by afici0nad0
2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si Sedan Set for Fall Release



http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=121806
I like it the fact that only 300 will be made. 30,000 for exclusivity is not that expensive
Old 07-24-2007, 07:32 AM
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I have no doubt they'll sell all 300 but thats only because there are 300. If they were bringing in 3,000, these things would be all over dealer lots collecting dust. 30K for a dressed up Civic Si I'm afraid Honda just doesn't get it anymore.
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Rather get a used TL or G35 for $30K than a Mugen Civic Si Sedan. Honda needs new PR managers and analysts.
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Mugen CTR

:shakehead Mugen Civic Si
Old 07-24-2007, 09:45 AM
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There are going to be more than 300 of these things. Yall are thinking about the Mugen RR that is coming out in Japan only. This will have 1000 first year and I bet if it sells well more in following years. Still exclusive, but not as exclusive as 300....
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I saw the pics on vtec.net of the civic mugen si up close. To me it's just a blatant ripoff of the Evo or Honda wants to catch that crowd for some reason.

They should've done a Mugen Accord coupe, but maybe that will be in the 8th gen of the Accord possibly.
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Originally Posted by bl^5
There are going to be more than 300 of these things. Yall are thinking about the Mugen RR that is coming out in Japan only. This will have 1000 first year and I bet if it sells well more in following years. Still exclusive, but not as exclusive as 300....

Yup, 1,000 for 08. My bad. Considering there are ~1,200 Honda dealers in the US I don't think they'll have a problem selling all of them but I just can't see how its worth an extra 8k.
Old 07-25-2007, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Yup, 1,000 for 08. My bad. Considering there are ~1,200 Honda dealers in the US I don't think they'll have a problem selling all of them but I just can't see how its worth an extra 8k.
Some Hondaphiles will chomp at the bit to get one but not much beyond that. Here in central NJ, the current $20k-$22k Si sedans seem to be sittiing on lots collecting dust.

Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
They should've done a Mugen Accord coupe, but maybe that will be in the 8th gen of the Accord possibly.
I was thinking 7G Accord sedan myself.

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Post 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si Sedan

Press release...

A factory-prepared 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si Sedan will debut in mid-October, Honda announced.

The Civic Mugen Si Sedan is equipped with a high-performance suspension, forged aluminum wheels, aerodynamic body styling and a sport-tuned exhaust system.

"Honda enthusiasts have long been asking for factory-installed Mugen performance products similar to what the company offers in Japan," said John Mendel, executive vice president of American Honda. "We're enthusiasts, too, and the ultra-premium Civic Mugen Si Sedan offers exclusive style and elevated handling performance with legendary Honda refinement."
The track-tuned suspension, tested at the Twin Ring Motegi racing circuit in Japan, lowers the vehicle by 0.6 inches with aggressive spring and damper tuning for enhanced handling performance while still maintaining a high level of ride comfort. Compared to the conventional Civic Si Sedan, front and rear damping force (both bump and rebound) was increased between 8- and 24-percent. Lightweight 16.98-pound 18x7.5-inch forged aluminum wheels (27 percent lighter than the stock 17x7 alloy wheel) and high-grip BFGoodrich g-Force KDW 215/40 ZR18 summer tires help to create Mugen's unique, rewarding and well-balanced handling performance character. The full-vehicle aero-package adds a front spoiler with a sports grille, side spoilers, a rear bumper diffuser and a rear wing.

The sport exhaust system reduces back pressure from the catalytic converter back. The Civic Mugen Si Sedan will be available exclusively in Fiji Blue Pearl and include front and rear Mugen emblems. Inside, a Mugen Limited Edition placard is located on the center console along with a spherical 50 mm Mugen aluminum shift knob.

The name Mugen symbolizes Honda performance throughout Asia and around the globe. Mugen, under license by M-TEC Co., Ltd., of Japan, has been closely associated with Honda for more than three decades in the design and manufacture of racing and premium aftermarket performance products.

The limited-production vehicle (maximum of 1,000 units for the 2008 model year) will have a retail price of less than $30,000 when it goes on sale and include a full factory warranty.
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The interior is

But man.... the USDM Civic sedan's front end is so ugly.
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so who's going to get it or at least take it for a test drive?
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The question is: will dealers allow for test drives of the Mugen Civic? I will definitely make an attempt to take a test drive when I bring my Accord in for servicing this Fall.
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Caddy fixed the main issue with the past CTS - the interior. Everything else is just a slight evolution of the current model. The dirvetrain is just keeping up with the competition. There'll be an early rush by the "must have" crowd after which it should sell like the current model with discounts - 5-7K/mo.
Biker, who is still jet lagged got a bit confused.

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Biker, who is still jet lagged got a bit confused.

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Not to jack the thread, what takes you to the 'land of oil?' (besides an airplane that is )
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I hope you don't wear anything that has a US flag on it ... that's just asking for trouble over there.

But the new Civic ... a cosmetic update is due in 2009, right? (Not to say the current design is junk ... unless you don't like the 2-tier dash, really deep dashboard, etc)
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First Drive: 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si Sedan



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Date posted: 07-31-2007
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It might be a hard sell, this $30,000 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si.

Sure, here we speak of a generation of Civic that is much more sophisticated than any that came before and possibly the most sophisticated in its class. Additionally, this Civic sedan is pumped up with the zingy 2.0-liter, 197-horsepower Si motor and the sweet six-speed manual transmission that comes bolted to that engine.

Further, for those whose tastes run toward the JDM, this Civic has a suspension, exhaust and body worked over by the able folks at M-Tec using the venerable Mugen name. Founded by 1973 by Soichiro Honda's son, Mugen has a proud list of motorsports accomplishments that include campaigning Super GT racers in Japan and building Formula 1 engines. It's also a premier aftermarket performance parts purveyor. Note: If you don't know what JDM stands for, stop reading. This is not the car for you.

For all of this sporty goodness, we must say that we hated this 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si during our first lap of Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, where we had a brief test-drive of the car that will go on sale in mid-October.

This Is What It Sounds Like When Slugs Cry
"What a pig," we exclaimed to no one in particular as the Mugen Si we were driving pushed toward the outside of the Carousel — just as it did at the Keyhole.

It wasn't until we began our second flying lap of the course that we realized that it might not have been fair to hop in this midsize sedan — no matter how tuned it is — immediately after lapping the same course in an S2000 CR.

A little slower at turn-in to the corner and a little more patient getting back to the gas pedal and the Mugen Si comes into its own. Still, it feels tall and a little heavy for track work. But damn if it doesn't sound good. Its ripping exhaust note is loud enough to be heard clearly through our full-face helmet. And from the outside the Mugen's exhaust is turned up to just between the standard demure Si exhaust and the raucous flatulence of many aftermarket Civic pipes.

And damn if we're not only 10 mph slower at the end of the back straight than we were in the S2000 CR. The digital speedometer flips over to 109 mph just as we approach the braking cone we used for the S2000 CR — uh oh.

It'll take another lap for us to stop abusing the car and a nice, slow lap to cool off the standard Si brakes so we don't come rolling into the pits with all four corners of the car on fire.

Limitations, Caveats and Forewarnings
Unfortunately we were not able to test a standard Civic Si on the same track and we were not able to test the Mugen Si on the street, so we're running a little blind here. We do not imagine that the standard Si, as good a budget sport sedan as it is, would have been as much fun on track as the Mugen (eventually) was. Street cars hate racetracks and the feeling is mutual.

Even so, the standard Si has just as much power, just as snickety-slick a six-speed shifter as the Mugen. In fact we came away from the day most impressed with how good a powertrain the base Si has and how surprisingly easy it is to heel-toe downshift the standard car. Incidentally, Honda says that the free-flowing Mugen exhaust "probably adds a few horsepower," but claims it hasn't been tested.

One Slug, Hold the Mucus
The Mugen's track-tuned suspension is comprised only of stiffer springs and dampers. The standard Si antiroll bars remain. The reworked suspension drops the Civic by a little more than a half inch. The lowering gives the Mugen a not-unpleasant sluglike stance — a tall, narrow blob slammed down to the ground. The body seems to ooze down over the 18-inch forged aluminum wheels that at 17 pounds each are lighter than the 17-inch standard Si wheels. To these handsome seven-spoke wheels, Mugen mounts BFGoodrich g-Force KDW 215/40ZR18 summer tires, which are significantly grippier but no wider than the standard Si's tires.

The Mugen Si comes with an aero body kit, of course. There is the obligatory rear wing, which is neither the largest nor the most garish we've seen. The rear bumper cover includes a special shape to help clean up airflow at the back of the car. The rocker sills are more pronounced and the front end gets a new, deeper front spoiler with some sort of canardlike things on the corners. And there's a new blacked-out front grille.

Oh, and we hope you like blue, because it's the only color you can get on the Mugen Si. It's Fiji Blue Pearl, if you must know.

And buyers get a specific Mugen aluminum shift knob of an impressive girth. But $30,000?

Honda's Case
We will not make Honda's case for it, since a base Si sedan with much of the essential goodness of this Mugen is almost $8,000 less expensive than the Mugen. That's an extra $160 per month, every month for five years, assuming a car loan with a 7.5 percent interest rate.

On the other hand, a Volkswagen GLI, which has the same number of doors and essentially the same horsepower, will run you $28,000 with a few big-ticket options. Of course we know we'd rather be in the Mugen if we were racing a GLI up a mountain road.

And because the 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si will be sold through dealers, it's covered under a full factory warranty. Try making a warranty claim on your car after you and your boys have fiddled with the suspension and slapped on an exhaust pipe the diameter of a sewer main. Good luck with that.

Honda should be able to unload the 1,000 Mugen Si's it will make available for '08. And no, there will be no two-door Mugen Si model. This is because, in a bit of sweet irony, Honda says the sedan has wider appeal.

The company admits that this special model is a trial balloon, to see how valuable the name Mugen is to buyers.

Still, a $30,000 Civic?
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Not to jack the thread, what takes you to the 'land of oil?' (besides an airplane that is )
My employer - for one year.

Strange to see all of these typically US cars around here - G35, USDM Accord, 300, mixed in with European and other world cars.
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Sickest Civic

I think most people already know about this but Mugen is making a typeRR Civic. I think this is gonna be the sickest Civic ever...
Honda Civic Mugen RR specs:
K20A engine (1998cc)- with Mugen RR original cam shafts, valve springs, intake manifold
240ps/8000rpm
22.2kgm/7000rpm
dual exhaust
adjustable dampers (5levels)
original semi-bucket seats made with Recaro
marked 1min6sec68 at Tsukuba circuit during test
4,777,500yen (as of now)

this beast is gonna be sold in Japan next month (9/13/07)

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So nice. Love that car.
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damn, just when I thought the normal civic type r is already a fast enough car on a track...and here comes the mugen version......it's more than 1 second faster on Tsukuba, I wonder how it'd do on Suzuka considering the normal civic is already faster than nsx, rx7, lancer evo, and skyline gtr r34. It really makes me want to go out there, buy the Acura CSX Type S, then convert it into this beast.
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what are those specs in american numbers?
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Originally Posted by mltk53
what are those specs in american numbers?
who cares!! we are not getting any of those JDM goodies anyway.
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Lol~ im just interested thats all~
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unfortunately, we will only be seeing the Mugen civic... from what my cuzz with the 8th gen civic Si told me, the only thing diff is the very minor mods, like seats and badges... =\ ..
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