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Old 08-14-2009, 09:52 PM
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Dream on people, how can you still have hope for Acura??
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Dream on people, how can you still have hope for Acura??
honda: the power of dreams
Old 10-28-2009, 11:11 AM
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2011 Acura TSX Sport Wagon for fall 2010

Dang, just posted in TSX forum, and realized this is better place for it. All I have to say is about time!



TORRANCE, Calif. - 10/28/2009
Acura announced today the addition of a TSX sport wagon to its 2011 vehicle lineup. Arriving at Acura dealerships in the Fall of 2010, the TSX sport wagon will be based on the popular TSX sports sedan, which features balanced performance, advanced technology and bold styling. Additional information on the 2011 TSX sport wagon will be announced at a later date.
For media information and high-resolution photos of all Acura vehicles, please visit www.acuranews.com. For consumer information, please visit www.acura.com.
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This is one that could go in automotive news, car talk or the TSX section. I say post it and let the mods sort it out.

Where ever you post it, I think it's pretty f'n cool.
Old 10-28-2009, 11:45 AM
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Yup, looks like the sorted it out. here are links to photos...
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=860098

I really dig the lawn mower picture.
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YESSSSSSSSSSS.

I guess Acura DOES listen to its customers sometimes. I intend to test drive it when it gets here and to try to convince the wife to trade her Pilot for it. Good business decisions like this deserve a sale from me. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it has a V6 option. Maybe SH-AWD?


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Originally Posted by neuronbob
YESSSSSSSSSSS.

I guess Acura DOES listen to its customers sometimes. I intend to test drive it when it gets here and to try to convince the wife to trade her Pilot for it. Good business decisions like this deserve a sale from me. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it has a V6 option. Maybe SH-AWD?
How about a K23 turbo and SH-AWD? I just love that motor and it kills me that you have to get a CUV/SUV to get it :angryfire
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^^^^^^



That would make family trips sooooo much more enjoyable....I'd love to be able to have a little spirited driving at times. I love our Pilot, but man is it drudgery to drive cross-country in it.
Old 10-28-2009, 12:04 PM
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This is awesome news.
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Good news, they deserve to be applauded for this decision. I just hope it sells.

Now if they would only add the 6MT and LSD to the V6
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do want wagon
i finally got my lady into wagons and this would be perfect
Old 10-28-2009, 01:04 PM
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Finally!
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Originally Posted by dom
Good news, they deserve to be applauded for this decision. I just hope it sells.
That is the key. I wonder how many they expect to sell? I wonder if the 1 year wait is to set up a line in North America?
Old 10-28-2009, 01:18 PM
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^ I'm guessing it's for the MMC.
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
^ I'm guessing it's for the MMC.
MMC should be 2012 (usually 4th year in a 5 year cycle)

Edited to add I know 1G had it's MMC in year 3, but it was the 4th year for the platform.

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Old 10-28-2009, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
That is the key. I wonder how many they expect to sell? I wonder if the 1 year wait is to set up a line in North America?
Well, as I state above, they've already pretty much sold one. Just need to prod my +1 to agree.
Old 10-28-2009, 01:51 PM
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Fantastic, Honda!!!

I hope the TSX wagon cannibalizes the Accord Crosstour sales.

So now Acura will have a new "best looking" car in their line-up....this will now make a total of 2 great looking cars in the Acura line-up...the other being the MDX.
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I want one, too.

It would be nice not to have to contort my bike to fit in my 04. I'm going to break something one of these days trying to get it in there.
Old 10-28-2009, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Fantastic, Honda!!!

I hope the TSX wagon cannibalizes the Accord Crosstour sales.

So now Acura will have a new "best looking" car in their line-up....this will now make a total of 2 great looking cars in the Acura line-up...the other being the MDX.
Why would you think this looks good when you don't think the TSX looks good?
Old 10-28-2009, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PG2G
Why would you think this looks good when you don't think the TSX looks good?
I like wagons

...and the wagon is a better shape than the TSX sedan IMHO.
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I guess i'm late to the party but woohoo.

I am really looking forward to this one. A fun sports wagon really brings some life to the Acura family.





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Old 10-28-2009, 02:54 PM
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BTW - I'd bet this will only be available with the V6. Not a bad thing IMO.

Then again its only available with the 4 across the pond so we'll see....
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They should give it the 3.7 I know its totally unrealistic, it'd be sweet though.
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I hope they bring it and leave it alone. I would so be into one if I could get the accord mugen kit for it.
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This automatically adds 2 SKUs. Base and Tech. With a V-6 option we have 4 SKUs. With a manual on either the I4 or V6 we have 6 new SKUs. There are already 6, are dealers supposed to stock 12 versions of TSX in 8 colors with 3 interiors?
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Originally Posted by Colin
This automatically adds 2 SKUs. Base and Tech. With a V-6 option we have 4 SKUs. With a manual on either the I4 or V6 we have 6 new SKUs. There are already 6, are dealers supposed to stock 12 versions of TSX in 8 colors with 3 interiors?
Which is why I think no 4.

And can you explain to me why any of that should matter? Not doubting it causes some sort of problem but outside of the added manufacturing costs what's the big deal?

Other cars have far more SKU's than 12. If it makes you feel any better Canada already gets 2 more SKU's than the US. TSX Base, AT/MT.

I think the bigger issue is pricing. If we assume the Wagon will cost more than the sedan, then we have a TSX that's more expensive than a comparably quipped TL. Quite a log jam in the pricing department.

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Originally Posted by dom
And can you explain to me why any of that should matter?
Well every car costs about 30K. If you stock 10 that's $300,000. If you have to stock 40 TSXs, you have over a million dollars in TSX inventory alone and you still don't have anywhere near 'one of everything'

European brands have a build to order system. Their customers expect to wait 3 months for their car. Acura customers (right or wrong) expect to drive home in their car in a day or week. Acura finance doesn't hold the rates for 3 months, so the lease payments need to re-calculated or sometimes negotiated when the car arrives. Obviously Acura Finance could fix this but they haven't.

I could go on but I think you see my POV. Most people would say 'that's just tough shit for the dealer' but I say is impacts what you get and for what price as well as your purchase experience. Isn't that what all customers are looking for? A good price and a pleasant experience?
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Originally Posted by dom
Which is why I think no 4.

And can you explain to me why any of that should matter? Not doubting it causes some sort of problem but outside of the added manufacturing costs what's the big deal?

Other cars have far more SKU's than 12. If it makes you feel any better Canada already gets 2 more SKU's than the US. TSX Base, AT/MT.

I think the bigger issue is pricing. If we assume the Wagon will cost more than the sedan, then we have a TSX that's more expensive than a comparably quipped TL. Quite a log jam in the pricing department.
When the TSX wagon debuts, Acura kills the RDX, takes the 4cyl turbo motor...puts it into the TSX wagon....adds six speed manual....

PROBLEM SOLVED. Everyone is happy....balance is restored to The Force.
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No doubt if the TSX wagon received the turbo 4-banger, the enthusiasts would be all over it. I'm expecting to see this car all over high school parking lots.
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To put what Colin is saying another way, if the dealer has 30 TSX's 5 base 5 tech auto, 5 base 5 tech 6MT, 5 V6 base and 5 V6 tech, the models are all fairly available and priced accordingly.

If you have to split those 30 cars into 8 or 10 versions, the actual availability of each version drops and large discounts will diminish for smaller ones, along with that finding the perfect car in the perfect color combo becomes increasingly difficult.

You can't just tell the dealers to stock more cars, lot space doesn't just show up because the manufacter added more models. I've worked both ends of the spectrum, Porsche, where the options list is like a city phonebook and it's extremely rare to find to identical cars and Acura which is a rather cookie cutter set up. In my experience you are about 95% more likely to walk into an Acura dealer and find the exact car you are looking for than you are at Porsche.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
When the TSX wagon debuts, Acura kills the RDX, takes the 4cyl turbo motor...puts it into the TSX wagon....adds six speed manual....

PROBLEM SOLVED. Everyone is happy....balance is restored to The Force.
I'd be in 8th heaven with a turbo 4 in a TSX wagon. I don't think that will happen, however....again, you get to Tier 1 status with variety and there is a place for the RDX. I'd be ecstatic just with a J35 under the hood of a TSX wagon.

I will say this again: brilliant move on Acura's part.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
....balance is restored to The Force.
I feel a great disturbance in The Force, as if thousands of RDXs suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

I am quite sure that the intercooler won't fit under the TSX hood.
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Is the turbo actually any good? I could have sworn I've read a lot of bad about it and heard that Acura themselves thought it was a mistake. I could be off though.
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Originally Posted by Colin
I feel a great disturbance in The Force, as if thousands of RDXs suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

I am quite sure that the intercooler won't fit under the TSX hood.


When I saw the TL and ZDX....

I felt like a padawan learner and Acura was Anakin Skywalker....dealing me the death blow with his lightsabre.....such injustice!!! :wink:
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I guess I'm late for this news as well. but Go Acura!

Wow, it's been a loooooooong time since I said such a thing!
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S


When I saw the TL and ZDX....

I felt like a padawan learner and Acura was Anakin Skywalker....dealing me the death blow with his lightsabre.....such injustice!!! :wink:
Remember...[waves hand] the RDX engine is not the motor you're looking for....
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Remember...[waves hand] the RDX engine is not the motor you're looking for....
"Your mind tricks will not work on me, Honda."
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at the Jedi mind tricks transpiring here. Speaking of which, where is the guy?

And I'm sure they can fabricate new IC piping to reroute the top-mount intercooler into a front-mount. I mean, what were they thinking putting it on top anyways?
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Very wise business move from Acura.! They should definitely be applauded where credit is deserved. Let's hope a turbo 4 with SH-AWD will be available as well.

But still, let's just be thankful for now before wishing for some more...
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methinks it'll be an auto only. SH-AWD seems like the logical decision, but seeing as how they didn't even put it on the V6 TSX....

Also doubt it'll come with a 6MT.


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