Acura: Sales, Marketing, and Financial News
#4961
iseecars is worthless data.
Which of the like publications cite your idiotic cherry-picking of a couple of data points (from one market)?
Meanwhile iseecars analyzed 6.5 million vehicles to come up with their data set on depreciation.
Plus, a # of us also cherry-picked used RLXs with ridiculously low resale value (did you just convenientlying FORGET about them like you usually do? ).
And speaking of Consumer Reports, CR's survey in 2019 found that 50% of RLX owners were not satisfied with their purchase - good for 9th highest LEAST satisfaction rate.
But hey, at least it wasn't bad enough to finish in the #1 spot which was taken by the ILX (are you now going to claim that CR's data is "worthless" as well?).
Much less data with regard to ATP and incentive spending which is actually much m important to auto makers.
RLX resale value is comparable to other luxury vehicles sedan in that price range . Infact MMC RLX surpass the BMW and MB.
ts individual dealers that are dumping Genesis at far below Acura prices.
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If anything, prospective buyers have been complaining about the lease rates compared to BMW and MB.
Did you already conveniently FORGET the data I had provided on incentive spending as a % of ATP?
Where Acura's is HIGHER than Genesis despite Genesis still lacking CUVs.
And esp. since one can get a well equipped MDX for thousands cheaper than the Telluride SXP.
Acura is hardly made in Japan. I am sure Honda Japan has its own products and they make there own standards of money. They are not going to dump critical R&D resources on worthless RWD sedans.
Honda Japan mostly sell tiny vehicles with small margins.
Even something the size of the Civic is being canceled in Japan due to low sales.
Meanwhile, the full size Grandeur is the best selling vehicle in Korea and the G80 is in so much demand that it actually outsold the Sonata.
1/3 of Overseas sales of H/K group comes from US market. It shows you were talking non sense from begining that H/K group is less exposed to US market than Honda. How many Lies i catched? Honda is least exposed to US market as Honda is big in bike market in Asia. Honda is big in China. Honda is big in domestic Japan. Honda is least exposed to French controlled EU who want to throw all asian products from EU/Africa/Middleast. As i said you live in lala land. Never second guess Honda business and product strategies.
Honda pretty much has the US and China (even in Japan, they only sell small vehicles with small margins) and some presence in SE Asia, along with Canada and Mexico (where H/K) outsells Honda).
Aside from desperation, why are you bringing up motorbike sales?
Are we supposed to count Honda lawn mower sales as well? Lol
And gee, isn't the RLX CANCELED (despite the "savings" from being FWD)?
Meanwhile, the G90 is still going, with not only a new model in the works, but Genesis get closer on deciding on doing a G90 flagship CUV.
Meanwhile the MDX is in a battle fighting off the top trims of the Telluride and Palisade.
which one you will want to drive?
Easy, no question the G90 (esp. the FL model).
The RLX doesn't even compete in the FLAGSHIP class and it rates among the bottom in the mid size class.
Plus, it's ugly, its dash design is a mess and doesn't have nearly the interior appointment of the G90, much less the ride quality.
Unlike for the RLX, G90 owners have a high owner satisfaction rate.
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civicdrivr (07-06-2020)
#4962
Honda does not play this virtual games like Tesla or copy cat brands like Hyundai.
Did Honda ever announce free maintainance or long warranties like Genesis/Hyundai?
Honda/Acura does not want to devalue there brands. That is reflected in lease rates. and that lease rates are reflective of the Luxury car value. Not some worthless ATP figure that you pull out from behind.
https://www.vroom.com/inventory/gene...F34JA7KU056658
2019 Genesis G90 $46,820
Those are used ACCORD Prices.
https://www.vroom.com/inventory/gene...GN4JEXJU225386
2018 Genesis G80
$25,550https://www.vroom.com/inventory/hond...CV2F59JA023450
2018 Honda Accord
$24,460Did they tested MMC hybrid vehicle?
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/acura/rlx/
A high point is the smooth, responsive 310-hp V6 engine. Our tested front-wheel-drive model averaged 23 mpg overall with the old six-speed automatic transmission
This is called Data. of 2014 PRE-MMC. Its quietness is second to none.
https://www.edmunds.com/acura/rlx/20...st-specs1.html
Sound level @ idle (dB) 39.0
@ Full throttle (dB) 70.8
@ 70 mph cruise (dB) 60.3
Engine speed @ 70 mph (rpm) 2,150
Post real world test datas. Not worthless opinions from anonymous surveys.
#4963
LOWER ATP (the gap will only widen) and greater incentive spending as a % of ATP for the Acura brand.
Worse resale for the RLX as well as having one of the LOWEST owner satisfaction rates.
The RLX being CANCELED - all facts which you cannot change despite what you continuously claim.
C/D ranked the RLX 15th in its midsize rankings and they referred to it as the "wallflower").
The G80 is ranked 10th, but the new model should leap into the top 5, maybe top 3.
The G90 is ranked 4th (actually 3rd since they count the AMG seprate from the regular S Class) in the flagship segment, ahead of 7 Series, LS 500, XJ, the Quattroporte, among others.
Both the G80 and G90 (as well as the G70) have been a C/D Editors' Choice list.
The RLX nor the ILX have ever made that list; not sure about the TLX.
The RLX can't touch the G90, much less the new G80.
Owners on the Lexus forum have discussed in length how the G90 is a threat to the LS; meanwhile they see the RLX as a complete joke.
You can continue to make false and misleading claims about Acura sedans, but the fact remains that the highest sedan remaining in Acura's lineup is the TLX which is an entry level/compact segment competitor.
Acura has failed and is no longer trying to compete in the mid size segment, and they have never competed in the flagship sedan segment.
Worse resale for the RLX as well as having one of the LOWEST owner satisfaction rates.
The RLX being CANCELED - all facts which you cannot change despite what you continuously claim.
C/D ranked the RLX 15th in its midsize rankings and they referred to it as the "wallflower").
The G80 is ranked 10th, but the new model should leap into the top 5, maybe top 3.
The G90 is ranked 4th (actually 3rd since they count the AMG seprate from the regular S Class) in the flagship segment, ahead of 7 Series, LS 500, XJ, the Quattroporte, among others.
Both the G80 and G90 (as well as the G70) have been a C/D Editors' Choice list.
The RLX nor the ILX have ever made that list; not sure about the TLX.
The RLX can't touch the G90, much less the new G80.
Owners on the Lexus forum have discussed in length how the G90 is a threat to the LS; meanwhile they see the RLX as a complete joke.
You can continue to make false and misleading claims about Acura sedans, but the fact remains that the highest sedan remaining in Acura's lineup is the TLX which is an entry level/compact segment competitor.
Acura has failed and is no longer trying to compete in the mid size segment, and they have never competed in the flagship sedan segment.
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#4964
LOWER ATP (the gap will only widen) and greater incentive spending as a % of ATP for the Acura brand.
Worse resale for the RLX as well as having one of the LOWEST owner satisfaction rates.
The RLX being CANCELED - all facts which you cannot change despite what you continuously claim.
C/D ranked the RLX 15th in its midsize rankings they referred to it as the "wallflower").
The G80 is ranked 10th, but the new model should leap into the top 5, maybe top 3.
The G90 is ranked 4th (actually 3rd since they count the AMG seprate from the regular S Class) in the flagship segment, ahead of 7 Series, LS 500, XJ, the Quattroporte, among others.
The RLX can't touch the G90, much less the new G80.
Owners on the Lexus forum have discussed in length how the G90 is a threat to the LS; meanwhile they see the RLX as a complete joke.
Worse resale for the RLX as well as having one of the LOWEST owner satisfaction rates.
The RLX being CANCELED - all facts which you cannot change despite what you continuously claim.
C/D ranked the RLX 15th in its midsize rankings they referred to it as the "wallflower").
The G80 is ranked 10th, but the new model should leap into the top 5, maybe top 3.
The G90 is ranked 4th (actually 3rd since they count the AMG seprate from the regular S Class) in the flagship segment, ahead of 7 Series, LS 500, XJ, the Quattroporte, among others.
The RLX can't touch the G90, much less the new G80.
Owners on the Lexus forum have discussed in length how the G90 is a threat to the LS; meanwhile they see the RLX as a complete joke.
RLX cancelled because of Honda restructuring in Japan. No point in building vehicle there on old platform and re-export it.
American Acura is going in different direction. It will have its own competitive products. first medium size and than compact sedan. than further SUVs and Tesla like flagship.
Honda pretty much has the US and China (even in Japan, they only sell small vehicles with small margins) and some presence in SE Asia, along with Canada and Mexico (where H/K) outsells Honda).
Japan market has different taste. They get there own volumes. Mexico is export based for Honda.
https://www.motodeal.com.ph/articles...orcycle-market
Indonesia overtakes India as Honda’s number one motorcycle market
Indonesia overtakes India as Honda’s number one motorcycle market
Honda to Invest $360m in Indonesia by 2022 In its first year of operation, the company recorded total car sales at just under 22,000. Last year the number rose to 199,364, accounting for 19 percent of Indonesia's car market. Honda's success in Indonesia can be attributed to the introduction of several new car models, such as the Mobilio, BR-V, HR-V, Jazz, Brio Satya, Brio RS and the CR-V.
"With the highest [domestic] market share and the fourth highest sales in the world, Indonesia is one of the most important markets," Uchida said.
"With the highest [domestic] market share and the fourth highest sales in the world, Indonesia is one of the most important markets," Uchida said.
I put a link of Honda Connect R&D venture in China. you didnot respond to that link. . so better withdraw from this thread with dignity before further embrassment.
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/te...l-5407041.html
Huawei overtakes Samsung as the world's largest smartphone maker in April
Huawei overtakes Samsung as the world's largest smartphone maker in April
https://news.ru/en/technologies/huaw...pment-centers/
Once Hyundai is thrown out from Chinese market. you are pretty much done in rest of the world as next generation vehicles will depend on connectivity and independent data.
#4965
Whats up with RDX owners?
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@YEH you're engaged in an argument with an ignorant, stubborn person (that I'm convinced is nothing more than a troll). You'll keep going around in circles with him. It's best to just point and laugh at his stupidity instead of wasting your time writing a well thought out response.
#4966
@YEH you're engaged in an argument with an ignorant, stubborn person (that I'm convinced is nothing more than a troll). You'll keep going around in circles with him. It's best to just point and laugh at his stupidity instead of wasting your time writing a well thought out response.
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#4967
#4968
Whats up with RDX owners?
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#4969
@YEH you're engaged in an argument with an ignorant, stubborn person (that I'm convinced is nothing more than a troll). You'll keep going around in circles with him. It's best to just point and laugh at his stupidity instead of wasting your time writing a well thought out response.
Edmunds has the private party price of a base 17MY RLX only $2k more than the base G80 of the same year, which isn't good since the RLX starts at $7k higher.
Another auto data analysis company, CarEdge, has the current price of a 17MY RLX that listed at $59,109 all the way down to $26,318.
Yeah, I know these data sets won't change the mind of someone so delusional that he claimed that Honda wanted to keep RLX sales low for the "exclusivity" factor. Lol
He's still trying to make his asinine arguments despite the RLX (and not the G80 or G90) being canceled.
The G90 has been very profitable for Hyundai (will surpass 100k units before the next gen model arrives); there are variants like the Stardust edition which goes for $111k, and that's not even a LWB version of the G90.
Despite having already explained this to the troll, still doesn't understand that the cost of a RWD platform is spread out across numerous models, garnering economies of scale.
The GV80 and GV70 (and likely a GV90) joining the G90, G80 and G70, as well as the K9/K900 and Stinger (Kia is contemplating doing a lux CUV as well).
Not to mention garnering a higher price point.
The MDX starts at $44.5k while the GV80 starts at $49k.
For the 1Q, Acura's incentive spending avg'd $5,523 per vehicle according to kbb.
Considering that ATP during that time was $40,307 - that's a big chunk.
Last edited by YEH; 07-06-2020 at 04:14 PM.
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civicdrivr (07-06-2020)
#4970
The RDX is making good $ for Honda, the rest of Acura's lineup - not so much at this time.
#4971
first You cannot compare the starting price of MDX which is based on old platform and 25 years old engine to new vehicle with still in opening deposits. where are the on the Road pictures of GV80 in consumer hands despite creating hype for Six months?
. if you are not stupid and can read dimensions. The next TLX is wider and has longer wheel base than current RLX. This give you idea each vehicle going upscale in line up. TLX is US made so more easy to invest in it in domestic market.
Your entires Genesis brand monthly sales are less than TLX sales.
There is nothing special about Genesis resale values.
Genesis are the low quality fit and finish stale designs. and i am sure next generation will be the most unreliable vehicles in there class once out of warranty.
. if you are not stupid and can read dimensions. The next TLX is wider and has longer wheel base than current RLX. This give you idea each vehicle going upscale in line up. TLX is US made so more easy to invest in it in domestic market.
Your entires Genesis brand monthly sales are less than TLX sales.
There is nothing special about Genesis resale values.
Genesis are the low quality fit and finish stale designs. and i am sure next generation will be the most unreliable vehicles in there class once out of warranty.
#4972
The only car that is making money with Acura badge is RLX. it has Japanese industrial efficiency behind it. thats the reason the Cheapest Hondas/Toyotas had rear cameras, push button starts and 8 airbags decades ago in Japan.
#4973
LMAO!
Because the RDX is the only Acura model without huge incentives - duh!
And if a model is making good $, an automaker is prone to invest in updates, not kill it off. Lol
Even with sharing components, an automaker has to sell a certain # in order to obtain ROI.
How many of the current and last RLX/Legend o you think Honda has sold world wide?
Only sold around 16k total in the US, its largest market - not even close to being able to attain ROI.
The G90, much less the G80, has sold more than that in 1 year in Korea.
Because the RDX is the only Acura model without huge incentives - duh!
And if a model is making good $, an automaker is prone to invest in updates, not kill it off. Lol
Even with sharing components, an automaker has to sell a certain # in order to obtain ROI.
How many of the current and last RLX/Legend o you think Honda has sold world wide?
Only sold around 16k total in the US, its largest market - not even close to being able to attain ROI.
The G90, much less the G80, has sold more than that in 1 year in Korea.
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#4974
As i said a some people cannot be educated. The Current RLX is related to JDM Accord/Euro Accord/Spirior platform developed in early 2000. That R&D done that point of time and than much later SH-AWD introduced in MDX/TL. Now that factory workers are reconfigured for other products. The price point Japanese can make money is much different than what US factories do. Some decisions are political to favour big markets like China and US in terms of factories.
That $5 to $10k incentive dont matter in big scheme of things from MRSP. when MRSP of older RL is 50% higher than TLX.
Keep playing around with low grade Genesis. as you have no understanding of high quality product.
That $5 to $10k incentive dont matter in big scheme of things from MRSP. when MRSP of older RL is 50% higher than TLX.
Keep playing around with low grade Genesis. as you have no understanding of high quality product.
#4975
As i said a some people cannot be educated. The Current RLX is related to JDM Accord/Euro Accord/Spirior platform developed in early 2000.
The Aviator has an ATP just under $76k; you think the MDX's ATP is anywhere close?
And if it is so cheap to develop the RLX, along with it having a fat profit margin, - then why did Honda discontinue the RLX with NO plans for a next gen model? Lol
#4976
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Because it so good with best tires and Higher ride height than competition. Honda engineers are best in world and were bored, so they cancelled it to keep crap Hyundai and Genesis guessing. Factory workers had bionic arms attached to belly buttons so they build other things. Like world best generator. No incentives! But 10k incentive sometimes. Only because car sell so well!
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#4977
Your stupidity have no bounds. Honda has more plans for factory that built Acura RLX. They already recoup from that platform over decades. it has nothing to do with US market.
TLX much cheaper built here as it will be sharing engine with RDX and MDX. TLX is now the new RLX for now. untill Honda built next generation electric vehicles.
The lease of RLX is not cheaper than BMW or Audi. Honda/Acura not losing money as RLX has strongest resale values in its segment.
Infiniti and Genesis are at bottom of heap. So dont BS around ATP values.
Genesis also has to pay for free maintainance and longer warranties .
TLX much cheaper built here as it will be sharing engine with RDX and MDX. TLX is now the new RLX for now. untill Honda built next generation electric vehicles.
The lease of RLX is not cheaper than BMW or Audi. Honda/Acura not losing money as RLX has strongest resale values in its segment.
Infiniti and Genesis are at bottom of heap. So dont BS around ATP values.
Genesis also has to pay for free maintainance and longer warranties .
#4978
Moderator
Let's keep the personal attacks/insults out of it, please.
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#4979
Your stupidity have no bounds. Honda has more plans for factory that built Acura RLX. They already recoup from that platform over decades. it has nothing to do with US market.
TLX much cheaper built here as it will be sharing engine with RDX and MDX. TLX is now the new RLX for now. untill Honda built next generation electric vehicles.
The lease of RLX is not cheaper than BMW or Audi. Honda/Acura not losing money as RLX has strongest resale values in its segment.
Infiniti and Genesis are at bottom of heap. So dont BS around ATP values.
Genesis also has to pay for free maintainance and longer warranties .
TLX much cheaper built here as it will be sharing engine with RDX and MDX. TLX is now the new RLX for now. untill Honda built next generation electric vehicles.
The lease of RLX is not cheaper than BMW or Audi. Honda/Acura not losing money as RLX has strongest resale values in its segment.
Infiniti and Genesis are at bottom of heap. So dont BS around ATP values.
Genesis also has to pay for free maintainance and longer warranties .
Even when accounting for decades, not going to recoup when there are little by the way in sales.
It costs $ to engineer and tool for a different size platform (which is why Toyota didn't bother to extend the WB for the RX-L), much less tooling overall (which is why GM imported the Envision from China rather than tool a factory here despite projecting 40-50k in annual sales).
Of course Honda has plans for the factory capacity that was taken by the RLX (can't leave capacity idle, not that there has been the need for much production of the RLX), but if the RLX had been selling in any sort of volume, there wouldn't be a need to find something to take its place as the RLX (according to you) is supposedly one of their higher margin models (it should be by virtue of being the "flagship" sedan).
So, if it were selling better, Honda would be keeping it around.
ATP is what it is - there is NO denying that unless one is actually stupid.
So a vehicle that starts at $33k is the RLX replacement? LMAO!
Now, you're being even more desperate than usual.
Having a $33k sedan be your flagship sedan is being at the bottom of the heap.
Considering that the Q50 will be Infiniti's flagship sedan, guess Acura has company (at least the a Q50 starts at $3,400 more than the TLX), and Infiniti sells a decent amount of the 67k+ QX80.
Acura is more apt to be compared to Buick than the Germans (and why something like the MDX is being threatened by the top trims of the Telluride and Palisade).
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civicdrivr (07-09-2020)
#4980
have you travelled around Europe. There BMW 5 series and MB E class priced closer to Honda Civic . Honda CRV is more expense than BMW X3. starting prices have nothing to do with flaghsip.
Acura NSX starts at $150K and end up at $250K. 70% price variation very normal. If TLX start at $35K and end up at $60K. there is nothing odd about it.
The same factory produced Honda Inspire/Acura TSX/ and Honda Legend. Each of the cars were dropped with time.
Acura TSX was dicontinued early 2014 for US market and but it was sold in various places untill middle 2015. Alot of components have long lead times and each has separate manufacturing bays. and some time new model development take too long so there is no replacement to build new model. so they continue with the current model. now they have much bigger TLX coming so no need to continue with RLX with similar size car.
It is used for all high end R&D. now Honda China has become alot bigger in sales. so they have much more high end R&D going in networking and connect services.
you should worry about Hyundai that is thrown out from Chinese market just like Samsung and stop worrying about RLX and Honda. They know what they are going.
Hyundai/kia SUVs cannot match low grade built Honda Pilot/Passport sales. Next MDX is not bothered by it.
Acura NSX starts at $150K and end up at $250K. 70% price variation very normal. If TLX start at $35K and end up at $60K. there is nothing odd about it.
The same factory produced Honda Inspire/Acura TSX/ and Honda Legend. Each of the cars were dropped with time.
Acura TSX was dicontinued early 2014 for US market and but it was sold in various places untill middle 2015. Alot of components have long lead times and each has separate manufacturing bays. and some time new model development take too long so there is no replacement to build new model. so they continue with the current model. now they have much bigger TLX coming so no need to continue with RLX with similar size car.
https://www.carsguide.com.au/honda/accord-euro
Sold in Australia between 2003 and the middle of 2015, the Accord Euro
Sold in Australia between 2003 and the middle of 2015, the Accord Euro
It is used for all high end R&D. now Honda China has become alot bigger in sales. so they have much more high end R&D going in networking and connect services.
you should worry about Hyundai that is thrown out from Chinese market just like Samsung and stop worrying about RLX and Honda. They know what they are going.
Hyundai/kia SUVs cannot match low grade built Honda Pilot/Passport sales. Next MDX is not bothered by it.
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#4981
LMAO!
In the past 2 months, Genesis has sold 15k+ G80s in Korea.
That’s about equal to the # of RLXs Acura has so here for its ENTIRE run since 2013.
Genesis broke its monthly sales record (again) with 13,315 in sales.
And Acura... oh, wait - Acura doesn't exist in Japan; whatever models t H at are sold as Hondas in Japan don't even break 500 in sales.
The best selling Honda model is the Fit with around 9k sold, which is only 1k more than what the G80 did.
The top selling Honda in Japan that isn't an economy car is the JDM Odyssey (which is smaller than the USDM Odyssey) with around 1k sold.
In the past 2 months, Genesis has sold 15k+ G80s in Korea.
That’s about equal to the # of RLXs Acura has so here for its ENTIRE run since 2013.
Genesis broke its monthly sales record (again) with 13,315 in sales.
And Acura... oh, wait - Acura doesn't exist in Japan; whatever models t H at are sold as Hondas in Japan don't even break 500 in sales.
The best selling Honda model is the Fit with around 9k sold, which is only 1k more than what the G80 did.
The top selling Honda in Japan that isn't an economy car is the JDM Odyssey (which is smaller than the USDM Odyssey) with around 1k sold.
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#4982
So not only did Genesis in Korea OUTSELL Acura in the US, it was at a significantly higher ATP with fatter profit margins.
And let's not even talk about Europe where Honda is a non-entity.
Wouldn't be surprised if Honda in Europe under-goes a restructuring like it just did in Australia, slashing the # dealerships and reducing the # of models sold.
Meanwhile, when Hyundai and Kia each get their BoF pick-up and SUV, they will be able to threaten Toyota for the sales crown in Australia, as well as vastly increasing sales worldwide.
And let's not even talk about Europe where Honda is a non-entity.
Wouldn't be surprised if Honda in Europe under-goes a restructuring like it just did in Australia, slashing the # dealerships and reducing the # of models sold.
Meanwhile, when Hyundai and Kia each get their BoF pick-up and SUV, they will be able to threaten Toyota for the sales crown in Australia, as well as vastly increasing sales worldwide.
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#4983
Again. why would Honda make dedicated platform to sell 15K vehicles whose resale value will crater at end of lease. You are bringing worthless examples from Korean domestic market.
Genesis are RWD while Hyundai are FWD.
The fact of matter is that Honda revenues are twice of H/K group. Honda is demolishing Hyundai in China market which will have Global impact.
Honda does not give long warranties nor free maintainance. Try buy extended warranty from Acura dealer to 100K miles on $50K vehicle. It add $3K to purchase price. Honda/Acura cars lasts longer thats why dealers always have work.
Honda bike sales are reaching in millions in rest of the world. Acura can afford its dealership network in US.
Australia is very small market. and Australian dollar has depreciated. It isnt even profitable.
Genesis are RWD while Hyundai are FWD.
The fact of matter is that Honda revenues are twice of H/K group. Honda is demolishing Hyundai in China market which will have Global impact.
Honda does not give long warranties nor free maintainance. Try buy extended warranty from Acura dealer to 100K miles on $50K vehicle. It add $3K to purchase price. Honda/Acura cars lasts longer thats why dealers always have work.
Honda bike sales are reaching in millions in rest of the world. Acura can afford its dealership network in US.
Australia is very small market. and Australian dollar has depreciated. It isnt even profitable.
#4984
LMAO!
You got NOTHING and you know it, which is why your attempts have gotten lamer and more idiotic.
Don't know why you keep on posting pics when everyone already knows what the RLX looks like (not exactly the type to win design awards), but then again, it has long been one of your strategies to deflect and obfuscate.
You got NOTHING and you know it, which is why your attempts have gotten lamer and more idiotic.
Don't know why you keep on posting pics when everyone already knows what the RLX looks like (not exactly the type to win design awards), but then again, it has long been one of your strategies to deflect and obfuscate.
#4986
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
I really wish you'd stop posting photos of those ugly RLXs @SSFTSX
They wouldn't, and that's exactly why they cancelled the RLX
Hyundai Motor Company saw revenue of $88,113,062,266 in 2019
Honda Motor Company saw revenue of $99,800,000,000 in 2019
I had to confirm with google, but 99 billion is in fact not 88 billion multiplied by two.
Translation: Hondas and Acuras are in the shop often (which is true)
Translation: Honda/Acura do not stand behind their product. And when they do, they make sure it's a third party that's overcharging you.
why would Honda make dedicated platform to sell 15K vehicles whose resale value will crater at end of lease.
The fact of matter is that Honda revenues are twice of H/K group.
Honda Motor Company saw revenue of $99,800,000,000 in 2019
I had to confirm with google, but 99 billion is in fact not 88 billion multiplied by two.
Honda/Acura cars lasts longer thats why dealers always have work.
Honda does not give long warranties nor free maintainance. Try buy extended warranty from Acura dealer to 100K miles on $50K vehicle. It add $3K to purchase price.
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00TL-P3.2 (07-13-2020)
#4987
Honda revenue now even more sustainable. RLX photos remind me of how much stale Genesis designs are that are currently on the road.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp.../#4a71c9b0731b
Honda Motors reported $143.1 billion in Total Revenues in Fiscal year 2019. This included 4 revenue streams:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp.../#4a71c9b0731b
Honda Motors reported $143.1 billion in Total Revenues in Fiscal year 2019. This included 4 revenue streams:
#4990
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Honda revenue now even more sustainable. RLX photos remind me of how much stale Genesis designs are that are currently on the road.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp.../#4a71c9b0731b
Honda Motors reported $143.1 billion in Total Revenues in Fiscal year 2019. This included 4 revenue streams:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp.../#4a71c9b0731b
Honda Motors reported $143.1 billion in Total Revenues in Fiscal year 2019. This included 4 revenue streams:
Hyundai reported 88 billion from their auto business alone. The Hyundai Motor Group (which is comprised of their passenger car brands along with financial and construction businesses) made *checks notes* $224,000,000,000 in 2018 (can't find 2019 revenue).
So, uh...yeah. Hyundai is fine
#4991
$143b through 4 revenue streams - auto, motorcycle, power and financial services.
Hyundai reported 88 billion from their auto business alone. The Hyundai Motor Group (which is comprised of their passenger car brands along with financial and construction businesses) made *checks notes* $224,000,000,000 in 2018 (can't find 2019 revenue).
So, uh...yeah. Hyundai is fine
Hyundai reported 88 billion from their auto business alone. The Hyundai Motor Group (which is comprised of their passenger car brands along with financial and construction businesses) made *checks notes* $224,000,000,000 in 2018 (can't find 2019 revenue).
So, uh...yeah. Hyundai is fine
Honda makes small cars for Japan and Asian market. it has more engineering resources shared.
Honda untill recently has $6b net income per year.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/c...nda/net-income
Hyundai facing significant downside in business where it is most exposed in Asia and EU.
#4992
Whats up with RDX owners?
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#4993
Ex-OEM King
not worth it man.
#4994
Whats up with RDX owners?
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#4995
Safety Car
July 2020
https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...s-results-2020
American Honda Reports July Sales Results
August 3, 2020- Acura car and truck sales gain in July to push brand up 2.5% for the month
- Honda HR-V posts 6.7% sales increase while CR-V tops 30,000 deliveries
125,450
-11.2%
Cars
51,380
-18.2%
Trucks
74,070
-5.6%
Total
13,076
+2.5%
Cars
3,265
+7.5
Trucks
9,811
+0.9%
Total
112,374
-12.6%
Cars
48,115
-19.5%
Trucks
64,259
-6.6%
See accompanying spreadsheet for complete results.
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#4996
Acura TLX sales are better than entire Genesis brand.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301104673.html
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., Aug. 3, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Genesis Motor America today reported sales of 1,257 units in July 2020, a 20.7 percent decrease compared with the prior year.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301104673.html
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., Aug. 3, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Genesis Motor America today reported sales of 1,257 units in July 2020, a 20.7 percent decrease compared with the prior year.
#4997
Azine Jabroni
Acura TLX sales are better than entire Genesis brand.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301104673.html
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., Aug. 3, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Genesis Motor America today reported sales of 1,257 units in July 2020, a 20.7 percent decrease compared with the prior year.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301104673.html
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., Aug. 3, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Genesis Motor America today reported sales of 1,257 units in July 2020, a 20.7 percent decrease compared with the prior year.
#4998
Ex-OEM King
RLX sales are up 200% compared to the same month last year!!!
#5000
Ex-OEM King