Acura: RLX News
#3241
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Patents
Acura’s push for more radical, independent styling could be over before it starts. These pictures, which were made public this week in a European design patent database, show an RLX sedan that’s been dulled down from the only slightly edgier concept version presented last April. The RLX will arrive in early 2013 as the replacement for the RL as Acura’s range-topping sedan.
The lower front and rear clips on (what we presume is) the production RLX have been changed from the concept car, with a standard rounded lower air intake up front and integrated exhaust outlets in the rear. These bookend a generally uninspiring shape, with the front looking rather like that of a current RL or TL, and the side and rear reminiscent of everything from a Lexus GS to a Chevy Cruze to a BMW 7-series.
Although Acura will undoubtedly promote the RLX as a fun-to-drive, high-tech showcase, the truth is that this car is aimed squarely at aging Baby Boomers. RLX customers are more likely to be cross-shopping the RLX with a Cadillac XTS, we think, than an avant-garde Audi A6. As such, Acura has said in the past that the RLX’s interior is significantly more spacious than in the company’s previous cars—despite its size, the RL has always had compromised interior packaging.
The only major U.S. auto show left on the calendar for 2012 is Los Angeles in November. Acura could pull the sheets off of the production RLX there, but an earlier non-auto-show debut is always possible.
#3242
My first Avatar....
^
really?!?!
really?!?!
#3245
Whats up with RDX owners?
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My friend and I were talking about it in the Acura booth, and one of the Acura people got a bit pissed when I said it looks like a Chrysler.
Last edited by dom; 06-21-2012 at 03:05 PM.
#3247
Three Wheelin'
Note to Acura: congrats on your previous-gen Lexus GS.
What you fail to understand is that the "luxury" segment is often a forerunner for design and technology, trickling down to the lower segments (not the other way around).
Your RLX's high deck, lower nose, with longer front and rear overhangs was popular, say, 12-15 years ago. The 1998 Lexus GS comes to mind. As such, Camrys, Accords, Altimas, etc. have been adopting this look for quite some time.
Modern luxury cars, however, have moved on from this dated design.
To maximize legroom, longer wheelbases with short front and rear overhangs is now expected. In addition, to provide a coupe-like design but not sacrifice rear headroom, a more hatch-like rear (with almost no deck) provides a more aerodynamic airflow.
Acura, here's an example: the 2013 Tesla S (and before you cry foul, the S starts at $49,900)
(If you're unfamiliar with "Tesla", please see Jaguar XF, BMW 5-series, and even the aforementioned Cadillac XTS)
What you fail to understand is that the "luxury" segment is often a forerunner for design and technology, trickling down to the lower segments (not the other way around).
Your RLX's high deck, lower nose, with longer front and rear overhangs was popular, say, 12-15 years ago. The 1998 Lexus GS comes to mind. As such, Camrys, Accords, Altimas, etc. have been adopting this look for quite some time.
Modern luxury cars, however, have moved on from this dated design.
To maximize legroom, longer wheelbases with short front and rear overhangs is now expected. In addition, to provide a coupe-like design but not sacrifice rear headroom, a more hatch-like rear (with almost no deck) provides a more aerodynamic airflow.
Acura, here's an example: the 2013 Tesla S (and before you cry foul, the S starts at $49,900)
(If you're unfamiliar with "Tesla", please see Jaguar XF, BMW 5-series, and even the aforementioned Cadillac XTS)
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#3248
The sizzle in the Steak
All the fanboys saying it was not going too look like a generic vanilla "Accord".
Maybe you guys will wake up and finally understand the mess that is Acura.........probably not.
The flagship of your brand looks like this?!?!?!
Another failure from Acura.
Maybe you guys will wake up and finally understand the mess that is Acura.........probably not.
The flagship of your brand looks like this?!?!?!
Another failure from Acura.
#3249
Senior Moderator
Isn't the flagship supposed to be the incoming NSX?
#3250
Whats up with RDX owners?
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#3251
The sizzle in the Steak
#3252
Aside from the side, you'll be able to tell them apart from the diff. grill design, etc.
[quote=HAWAII-TSX;13830128]What about a jetta that looks like a audi a4, passat that looks like a audi a8, camry that looks like a lexus gs or es, or Avalon that looks like ls.
And the Passat looks more like the Phaeton than the A8 - which is one of the reasons the Phaeton failed.
The taillights also have a Bangle 7 Series vibe to them.
So basically, take the safe (but nice looking greenhouse w/ the Hofmeister kink), add a kinda weird version of BMW taillights and a toned down Acura "beak" grill (still ugly) w/ typical rectangular headlights.
All in all, I think the ILX is a better overall design.
Last edited by YEH; 06-21-2012 at 08:33 PM.
#3253
AZ Community Team
Not really, cases in point the current 7 series and A8.
Note to Acura: congrats on your previous-gen Lexus GS.
What you fail to understand is that the "luxury" segment is often a forerunner for design and technology, trickling down to the lower segments (not the other way around).
Your RLX's high deck, lower nose, with longer front and rear overhangs was popular, say, 12-15 years ago. The 1998 Lexus GS comes to mind. As such, Camrys, Accords, Altimas, etc. have been adopting this look for quite some time.
Modern luxury cars, however, have moved on from this dated design.
To maximize legroom, longer wheelbases with short front and rear overhangs is now expected. In addition, to provide a coupe-like design but not sacrifice rear headroom, a more hatch-like rear (with almost no deck) provides a more aerodynamic airflow.
Acura, here's an example: the 2013 Tesla S (and before you cry foul, the S starts at $49,900)
(If you're unfamiliar with "Tesla", please see Jaguar XF, BMW 5-series, and even the aforementioned Cadillac XTS)
What you fail to understand is that the "luxury" segment is often a forerunner for design and technology, trickling down to the lower segments (not the other way around).
Your RLX's high deck, lower nose, with longer front and rear overhangs was popular, say, 12-15 years ago. The 1998 Lexus GS comes to mind. As such, Camrys, Accords, Altimas, etc. have been adopting this look for quite some time.
Modern luxury cars, however, have moved on from this dated design.
To maximize legroom, longer wheelbases with short front and rear overhangs is now expected. In addition, to provide a coupe-like design but not sacrifice rear headroom, a more hatch-like rear (with almost no deck) provides a more aerodynamic airflow.
Acura, here's an example: the 2013 Tesla S (and before you cry foul, the S starts at $49,900)
(If you're unfamiliar with "Tesla", please see Jaguar XF, BMW 5-series, and even the aforementioned Cadillac XTS)
Last edited by Legend2TL; 06-21-2012 at 08:49 PM.
#3254
6G TLX-S
#3255
AZ Community Team
+1, the only surprise here are the comments of people who are shocked by the pictures. This is the same car that debuted in the NYC video and auto shows months ago so why they are bewildered makes no sense.
#3256
AZ Community Team
Note to Acura: congrats on your previous-gen Lexus GS.
What you fail to understand is that the "luxury" segment is often a forerunner for design and technology, trickling down to the lower segments (not the other way around).
Your RLX's high deck, lower nose, with longer front and rear overhangs was popular, say, 12-15 years ago. The 1998 Lexus GS comes to mind. As such, Camrys, Accords, Altimas, etc. have been adopting this look for quite some time.
Modern luxury cars, however, have moved on from this dated design.
To maximize legroom, longer wheelbases with short front and rear overhangs is now expected. In addition, to provide a coupe-like design but not sacrifice rear headroom, a more hatch-like rear (with almost no deck) provides a more aerodynamic airflow.
Acura, here's an example: the 2013 Tesla S (and before you cry foul, the S starts at $49,900)
(If you're unfamiliar with "Tesla", please see Jaguar XF, BMW 5-series, and even the aforementioned Cadillac XTS)
What you fail to understand is that the "luxury" segment is often a forerunner for design and technology, trickling down to the lower segments (not the other way around).
Your RLX's high deck, lower nose, with longer front and rear overhangs was popular, say, 12-15 years ago. The 1998 Lexus GS comes to mind. As such, Camrys, Accords, Altimas, etc. have been adopting this look for quite some time.
Modern luxury cars, however, have moved on from this dated design.
To maximize legroom, longer wheelbases with short front and rear overhangs is now expected. In addition, to provide a coupe-like design but not sacrifice rear headroom, a more hatch-like rear (with almost no deck) provides a more aerodynamic airflow.
Acura, here's an example: the 2013 Tesla S (and before you cry foul, the S starts at $49,900)
(If you're unfamiliar with "Tesla", please see Jaguar XF, BMW 5-series, and even the aforementioned Cadillac XTS)
#3257
Some dude
I just threw this together. Wanted to see how plain the RLX looks next to something else. Even though the shots on the left are press shots you can tell the Acura has no real character.
#3258
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ In the comparo pics, the Acura looks like a cheap Chinese knock-off
#3259
^^Agreed. Slap a BYD or a Chery badge on there....
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It looks way better in motion IMO:
Feels more "substantial"......more road presence.......I mean it's not the sharpest/best looking car, but it certainly looks a whole lot better than those patent pics.
Feels more "substantial"......more road presence.......I mean it's not the sharpest/best looking car, but it certainly looks a whole lot better than those patent pics.
#3261
My first Avatar....
Always defending.
It "feels" more substantial? Was that you driving in the commercial?
It'll be a swell car, I'm sure.
#3263
Some dude
Acura is going to have another huge failure when even the people who like the car say these things.
Also, when you're working your way from the bottom of the class, "MEH" isn't good enough.
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#3265
Honda Fanboy
#3266
Honda Fanboy
#3267
Moderator
#3268
^ FAIL hard
This has always been Acura's problem - they simply don't know how to finish a design. The RLX in and of itself isn't bad - it's the details, the finishing touches that are lacking. that's what the Hyundai has that the Acura is missing. A little nip here, a pull there; that's all it takes and Acura designers simply cannot grasp this concept.
This has always been Acura's problem - they simply don't know how to finish a design. The RLX in and of itself isn't bad - it's the details, the finishing touches that are lacking. that's what the Hyundai has that the Acura is missing. A little nip here, a pull there; that's all it takes and Acura designers simply cannot grasp this concept.
#3270
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
Ok, THAT was funny
With that said, some of us have seen the car in person. The black and white photos don't hurt as much as you think
Last edited by civicdrivr; 06-22-2012 at 03:53 PM.
#3271
Moderator
#3272
Honda Fanboy
#3273
Moderator
#3274
Honda Fanboy
BTW why are you hiding your online status now? You're clearly still always on here.
#3275
Moderator
#3277
Three Wheelin'
Bottom line, it's a dated design and Acura can do better. There's nothing "Advance" about it.
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#3278
The sizzle in the Steak
Avalon?!?!? FAIL
BTW...the Bimmer looks great in those "pics'
BTW...the Bimmer looks great in those "pics'
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Totally agree with your second statement. It's just that some folks here, including myself, don't exactly feel that the RLX is "MEH." Obviously, there are people, like yourself, would think the design is way too bland.
^ FAIL hard
This has always been Acura's problem - they simply don't know how to finish a design. The RLX in and of itself isn't bad - it's the details, the finishing touches that are lacking. that's what the Hyundai has that the Acura is missing. A little nip here, a pull there; that's all it takes and Acura designers simply cannot grasp this concept.
This has always been Acura's problem - they simply don't know how to finish a design. The RLX in and of itself isn't bad - it's the details, the finishing touches that are lacking. that's what the Hyundai has that the Acura is missing. A little nip here, a pull there; that's all it takes and Acura designers simply cannot grasp this concept.
First, note the long wheelbases and short overhangs of the vehicles you're referencing. I could come up with plenty of cars that are indeed going in the new design direction (even my Mazda 6), but I won't waste space here.
Bottom line, it's a dated design and Acura can do better. There's nothing "Advance" about it.
Bottom line, it's a dated design and Acura can do better. There's nothing "Advance" about it.
#3280
Engineer
Is it me or does it just look like a stretched TSX or TL in this pic?