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Old 12-19-2015, 05:06 PM
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its going global. They need more powerfull SUV and highest power vehicles to travel at infinite speed on Middleast freeways.

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Old 12-20-2015, 04:15 AM
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My favorite, I'd give 1.675 testicles for one.
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I'm willing to up that to 2.00 testicles, an appendix and 1 kidney. Maybe a couple toes also.
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Shows how much Nexx knows.

The new NSX will have markups on it. It was confirmed on NSXPrime and the below article just says "Dealer prices may vary".

Canadian pricing was just released.
$189,900 for the base model.
$250,100 for all options.

This does not include freight or PDI, dealer markup, or taxes.

You can expect the optioned out model to hit $300k here in Canada. What a fucking joke.



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Considering the 2005 NSX actually had a 142k MSRP in Canada, this isn't that big of a price increase, IMO.
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You're not looking at the entire picture.

No one in their right minds would pay 142k for an NSX in 2005. You could get them out the door for 120k because no one was buying them.

The new NSX is just that. New. There won't be big discounts right off the bat, or likely for the first few years due to low production numbers.
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I'm willing to up that to 2.00 testicles, an appendix and 1 kidney. Maybe a couple toes also.
why stop at 2.0? i call your raise and raise you 34.50
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Um... you should get that looked at. Are you sure you don't just have an additional 32.50 tumors growing?
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Old 12-20-2015, 05:05 PM
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So you think they are fucked now with the price tag? Lexus didn't have any problems moving out their 450k CAD LFA a few years back. The NSX, as fucking slow as it is, will be just fine.
Old 12-20-2015, 10:50 PM
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$156k US.. not a bargain but I think it's fair.
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Shows how much Nexx knows.

The new NSX will have markups on it. It was confirmed on NSXPrime and the below article just says "Dealer prices may vary".

Canadian pricing was just released.
$189,900 for the base model.
$250,100 for all options.

This does not include freight or PDI, dealer markup, or taxes.

You can expect the optioned out model to hit $300k here in Canada. What a fucking joke.


LOL yup we always get screwed big time...

Go to Porsche Canada and option out a 911 Carrera 4S (not turbo, or turbo s). its $220k not including freight or PDI, dealer markup, or taxes. ...so that's $260k optioned out for a non turbo 911....LOL
Old 12-21-2015, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MSZ
So you think they are fucked now with the price tag? Lexus didn't have any problems moving out their 450k CAD LFA a few years back. The NSX, as fucking slow as it is, will be just fine.
What's that old saying? A fool and his money are soon parted? Yeah, that's it.

Just goes to show that if something is made, someone, somewhere will buy it.
Old 12-21-2015, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MSZ
So you think they are fucked now with the price tag? Lexus didn't have any problems moving out their 450k CAD LFA a few years back. The NSX, as fucking slow as it is, will be just fine.
Wait hang on, MSZ...Lexus's brand image is on a different scale to Acura's. It's the reality.
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LFA was never about acceleration, although it is faster than the GTR other than the initial launch.

it was more a showcase of engineering. If i recall correctly, it lost $$ on every LFA it sold with its 300k+ USD price tag. Similar approach with the Original NSX.
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new NSX is as confused as the rest of Acura.

But hey, if you have a quarter million burning a hole in your pocket and you're looking for an arcade like experience, who am I to stop you? Buy away!
Old 12-22-2015, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
If i recall correctly, it lost $$ on every LFA it sold with its 300k+ USD price tag. Similar approach with the Original NSX.
Base model MSRP for the 2012 LFA was $375,000.

I doubt Honda is making any money on the current NSX either - it's just a matter of how much it loses vs. the increased interest (and associated sales) in other models it pulls in.
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Honda can certainly make money on NSX if production is stretch out 10 years with small upgrades and design changes and they can easily sell 4k to 5k globally each year. production can be increased. some of the tech developed can used in other products like the turbo engine. NSX is much more useable vehicle. i bet its comfort level for every day driving is higher.
LFA has V10 engine that even toyota SUV does not use it.
Old 12-22-2015, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Honda can certainly make money on NSX if production is stretch out 10 years with small upgrades and design changes and they can easily sell 4k to 5k globally each year. production can be increased. some of the tech developed can used in other products like the turbo engine. NSX is much more useable vehicle. i bet its comfort level for every day driving is higher.
LFA has V10 engine that even toyota SUV does not use it.
Why would Toyota SUV use a high rev, low torque V10?

and why stop at 10 years? stretch it to the end of time and I am sure NSX will be banking!
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Honda can certainly make money on NSX if production is stretch out 10 years with small upgrades and design changes and they can easily sell 4k to 5k globally each year. production can be increased. some of the tech developed can used in other products like the turbo engine. NSX is much more useable vehicle. i bet its comfort level for every day driving is higher.
LFA has V10 engine that even toyota SUV does not use it.
It baffles my mind why more car manufacturers don't capitalize on this...


The Ford Taurus SHO should have a Coyote engine in it, hell there should be a Fusion 500 with the coyote in it... A low R&D, relatively low volume car that shouldnt hurt CAFE too much. But bring in alot of public interest in the car. Kind of like the hellcat dodges, but with a more reasonable performance engine
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Originally Posted by iforyou
What wrote that crap? So much false info LOL!!



The NSX does not top out at $207,500, it tops out at $205,700:
Acura Shares Details of Next-Generation Acura NSX Sales Plan - Acura News

Granted, it's only a $1800 difference, but boy, such lazy journalism.

Second, Huracan and 570S sure have better pedigreed. But more powerful? Really?

As per C/D's own tests:

570S:
Power: 562 hp @ 7400 rpm
Torque: 443 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
McLaren 570S Coupe Reviews - McLaren 570S Coupe Price, Photos, and Specs - Car and Driver

Huracan 580-2:
Power: 572 hp @ 8000 rpm
Torque: 398 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm
2016 Lamborghini Huracan LP580-2 First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver

NSX:
Power: 573hp
Torque: 406lbft from engine, 109lbft from rear motor, 108lbft from front motors
2017 Acura NSX First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver

Sorry, unless my math is wrong, I don't see how 572hp or 562hp is more powerful than 573hp.

With that said, I think Honda made the wrong decision to tell people the fully loaded price. People in general would simply take that number and bash the car, acting as with other cars are fully loaded at the base price.

I mean I just went to Porsche USA site, selected a base 911 Carrera with a starting price of $89400. Make it fully loaded and personalized, and the total price is $168,625. Yup, that's right, $80k of option on a $90k car.

Another less extreme example would be the R8 V10 Spyder (no pricing info yet for the new model on Audi website). It starts at $166k, and once loaded, it's over $200k.

How about the MB AMG GT S? $130k base price, fully loaded at $176k. That's 570S money, Why waste money on a 500hp Mercedes when you can get a more powerful Mclaren with a better pedigreed?
thanks for maintaining a rare voice of reason in the thread.

and to the others, what did you think it was going to cost? $90k?

It's costs are understandable given it's performance and development.
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Honda can certainly make money on NSX if production is stretch out 10 years with small upgrades and design changes and they can easily sell 4k to 5k globally each year. production can be increased. some of the tech developed can used in other products like the turbo engine. NSX is much more useable vehicle. i bet its comfort level for every day driving is higher.
LFA has V10 engine that even toyota SUV does not use it.
I prefer an engine being exclusive to a car - it gives that car more value. If I can get the same bad ass engine somewhere else, then the car is devalued in that way. I am SO GLAD the LFA's engine is not found anywhere else.

Would I ever buy the new NSX? No.
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Originally Posted by srika
I prefer an engine being exclusive to a car - it gives that car more value. If I can get the same bad ass engine somewhere else, then the car is devalued in that way.
never thought about it that way.
kinda puts an end to the age old argument of ford vs chevy.
the LSx is found in pretty much every thing.
and I like chevy too.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
never thought about it that way.
kinda puts an end to the age old argument of ford vs chevy.
the LSx is found in pretty much every thing.
and I like chevy too.
Well, those aren't supercars so it's not too big an issue.

BUT, look at the ZR-1 and CTS-V - yes, I feel the fact that I can get the same engine in a (lesser) Cadillac takes away from the ZR-1.

Look at the current issue where the new Camaro is making more RWHP than the C7 Stingray. Yeah, people no likey.

This is another reason why the R8 having the Gallardo's engine was controversial. It's basically what happens when a manufacturer wants to save money, and this reflects negatively thereof.
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Originally Posted by Booya4139
It baffles my mind why more car manufacturers don't capitalize on this...


The Ford Taurus SHO should have a Coyote engine in it, hell there should be a Fusion 500 with the coyote in it... A low R&D, relatively low volume car that shouldnt hurt CAFE too much. But bring in alot of public interest in the car. Kind of like the hellcat dodges, but with a more reasonable performance engine
I mean creating more luxrious high performance SUV and large Sedan at $100k price for variation of NSX engine. Acura need to go upmarket to cater to global rich.
Toyota is world largest manufacture of V8. BMW share V8turbo in vehicles from $70k upto $150k.
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ohhh now i get it.

The most that us hatters do is bitching and complaining. SSFTSX's ultimate goal is to sink Acura all together.

You are definitely evil.... well played. You fooled us all.
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Originally Posted by srika
thanks for maintaining a rare voice of reason in the thread.

and to the others, what did you think it was going to cost? $90k?

It's costs are understandable given it's performance and development.

I prefer an engine being exclusive to a car - it gives that car more value. If I can get the same bad ass engine somewhere else, then the car is devalued in that way. I am SO GLAD the LFA's engine is not found anywhere else.

Would I ever buy the new NSX? No.
Haha thanks.

I do agree that having an unique engine is nice, especially for a car this expensive. A lot of that money is probably due to the rarity of the parts used.
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Looks like Motor Trend tested the new R8 and NSX...
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There's no confirmation the NSX hits 0-60 in 2.6seconds. On NSXprime they were talking about those numbers for the R8 and the Tesla. Ie: the tesla and r8 have been confirmed to hit those numbers, but no performance numbers from Acura yet. They claim it's just a marketing ploy by MotorTrend to sell more magazines.

The article doesn't really say anything new about the NSX, at least as far as what was posted on prime. They posted about 4 pages worth of the same we've known for awhile.
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I will be very shocked if NSX can do 2.6 but it doesnt matter
because 0-60 is the golden bench mark for all super cars... if you add 4 more battery in a Prius, it will get to 60 in 2.6 secs too and die at 61mph....
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wait, they got **** 2.6 seconds **** to 60 with the NSX? good gravy, what a slow and underperforming car!!! LMFAO Shame on Acura they really missed the boat!!! Ok, I'm done.

I shall look forward to the MT video....
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I will be very shocked if NSX can do 2.6 but it doesnt matter
because 0-60 is the golden bench mark for all super cars... if you add 4 more battery in a Prius, it will get to 60 in 2.6 secs too and die at 61mph....
I think you normally have some solid posts, but this- this is the dumbest shit you've ever posted
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
I think you normally have some solid posts, but this- this is the dumbest shit you've ever posted
That was for the guy above u, you just replied too fast.
But , hey if 0-60 is what measures the performance of a supercar... then shit whatever it takes to get to 60.. u know... 61+ does not matter.
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I'll tell you guys right now, the NSX will not top out at 61 mph. I guarantee it.
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Well 0-60 is only part of the equation. It may be the most talked about figure, but there are others that matter as well. People can comprehend a 0-60 time a lot more than 0-120, etc.
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Originally Posted by srika
I'll tell you guys right now, the NSX will not top out at 61 mph. I guarantee it.
No, but what he is saying is let's see what it does beyond that. Does it have the power to weight ratio, etc, to propel it properly to it's governed speed limit?
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and how do you think NSX will performance from 60-150, or 180 when the battery matters less?
Not anyone would drive that fast but since it is a supercar, it is not what you need, it is all about what you can brag about.
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good questions, we shall have to await the full test results
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No, but what he is saying is let's see what it does beyond that. Does it have the power to weight ratio, etc, to propel it properly to it's governed speed limit?
you are obviously smarter than him...
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He's obviously being sarcastic about it dieing at 61+


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