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Old 05-15-2023, 01:43 PM
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So I tried to preorder on Acura.com when they opened the online order banks for the first 200 cars back on Thursday. The website was so screwed up that thousands of people could not get the pages to load. I tried for two hours and eventually got through but my color combo (you had to choose from four different combos) was already sold out, so I put in a waitlist request at my local dealer.

I got a confirmation email and "hello" call from the dealer right afterward but I was busy the next few days and couldn't talk with a salesperson yet. I finally did today and guess what? They aren't selling it at MSRP. There will be an ADM of $5k-$10k that the "managers" are hashing out.

I gave him my honest opinion on the manner and told him I am not interested in paying over sticker, especially with the price already being on the high end for this car.

I will not be doing business with them unless they are willing to offer it to me at MSRP. He told me to keep them "in mind" the next few months. Of course he cited the CTR and how people are paying way over sticker. I told them they are nuts to be so financially irresponsible. I will find a car eventually and I am not playing that game.

Oh, and he also said, because I expressed that I am only interested in a manual transmission, that if I were willing to part with that, they have a few TLX Type S they could offer me at sticker. I said thanks but no thanks.

I also talked about my journey finding a new manual car, and the upcoming electrification of everything (he said Acura is going that route [duh everyone is] and they have to spend "hundreds of thousands on upgrading the dealership") and how times are too crazy right now to pay over sticker. I also told him that if they are willing to work with me at sticker, I would tell everyone I know and drive business their way. Is a few extra grand worth potentially more foot traffic in the dealer and more business? He got a little heated at this point and raised his voice saying he knows as he has been doing this for over twenty years. He still told me to think about it (the deal with them, with the ADM) and I told him to think about it, too.

Anyway, when Acura announced the Integra Type S in April I contacted a few Acura dealers in the area and I spoke to a salesman at a different dealer than this. He put me on the reservation list and said I was #3. I'm going to check in with him and see if their dealer has decided on price and I might have a possible avenue here. Otherwise, if they also have an ADM, I'm back to the drawing board, again.
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Weren't we told that there wouldn't be a markup on this car?

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a dealer selling this for MSRP that doesn't have a list 50 names deep already.
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So I tried to preorder on Acura.com when they opened the online order banks for the first 200 cars back on Thursday. The website was so screwed up that thousands of people could not get the pages to load. I tried for two hours and eventually got through but my color combo (you had to choose from four different combos) was already sold out, so I put in a waitlist request at my local dealer.

I got a confirmation email and "hello" call from the dealer right afterward but I was busy the next few days and couldn't talk with a salesperson yet. I finally did today and guess what? They aren't selling it at MSRP. There will be an ADM of $5k-$10k that the "managers" are hashing out.

I gave him my honest opinion on the manner and told him I am not interested in paying over sticker, especially with the price already being on the high end for this car.

I will not be doing business with them unless they are willing to offer it to me at MSRP. He told me to keep them "in mind" the next few months. Of course he cited the CTR and how people are paying way over sticker. I told them they are nuts to be so financially irresponsible. I will find a car eventually and I am not playing that game.

Oh, and he also said, because I expressed that I am only interested in a manual transmission, that if I were willing to part with that, they have a few TLX Type S they could offer me at sticker. I said thanks but no thanks.

I also talked about my journey finding a new manual car, and the upcoming electrification of everything (he said Acura is going that route [duh everyone is] and they have to spend "hundreds of thousands on upgrading the dealership") and how times are too crazy right now to pay over sticker. I also told him that if they are willing to work with me at sticker, I would tell everyone I know and drive business their way. Is a few extra grand worth potentially more foot traffic in the dealer and more business? He got a little heated at this point and raised his voice saying he knows as he has been doing this for over twenty years. He still told me to think about it (the deal with them, with the ADM) and I told him to think about it, too.

Anyway, when Acura announced the Integra Type S in April I contacted a few Acura dealers in the area and I spoke to a salesman at a different dealer than this. He put me on the reservation list and said I was #3. I'm going to check in with him and see if their dealer has decided on price and I might have a possible avenue here. Otherwise, if they also have an ADM, I'm back to the drawing board, again.
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Stopped by a Mercedes dealer the other day to get a quote on a '23 GLS450. Salesguy wanted $20k ADM! GTFOH!
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Ouch, $20k on top of an already high MSRP. Yeah, I'd be out too.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Weren't we told that there wouldn't be a markup on this car?

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a dealer selling this for MSRP that doesn't have a list 50 names deep already.
IntegraForums has a list of dealers that have confirmed they are offering at MSRP. Unfortunately it seems like a buyer has to pick and choose to find one. I guess that's today's world.

There are a couple in next door Indiana that I am going to contact.
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hope you're having a great day this is Charles with Don Ayres Acura. Regarding the Acura Integra type S, we have 6 current customers in line with the current 5 Allocations for the year. We are selling at MSRP there is no mark-up. It would be $500 to secure your position in lne.
There is hope. Perhaps if a color combo comes up in an allocation and a customer in line doesn't want it, the opportunity might go to the next person in line. Might not be until 2024, though. Finding more info.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Weren't we told that there wouldn't be a markup on this car?

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a dealer selling this for MSRP that doesn't have a list 50 names deep already.
This is pretty typical.

Yes, they told you no markup. and you waited and waited and then they told you they only get 5-10 allocations each year for the next 2-3 years.
Then you asked where am i on the waiting list? #150 they said... so you busted out your calculator and realized you want your deposit back
Then the GM came out and tell you if you are willing to pay a little market adjustment, we can get you a car faster
You asked how much more? $5k, he said.


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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
This is pretty typical.

Yes, they told you no markup. and you waited and waited and then they told you they only get 5-10 allocations each year for the next 2-3 years.
Then you asked where am i on the waiting list? #150 they said... so you busted out your calculator and realized you want your deposit back
Then the GM came out and tell you if you are willing to pay a little market adjustment, we can get you a car faster
You asked how much more? $5k, he said.


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Giving deposits to a dealer very likely to charge ADM is basically giving them a no-interest loan.
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While you'll need to wait another week to read our review of the upcoming 2024 Acura Integra Type S, there is a nice little nugget of information we can share in the meantime. Between May 2022 and April 2023, Acura reports that it sold 19,643 Integras. According to the figures Acura shared, so grain of salt, that is grossly more than other entry-level luxury sedans: the Audi A3 (8,866), Mercedes-Benz CLA (6,656) and BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe (3,913). It's unclear if the A3 also includes S3 and RS 3, but the total would assuredly be less than Integra.

The thing that most piqued our interest, however, was Acura saying that 19% of those 19,643 Integras came with the six-speed manual transmission. Now, that's a colossal change from the earliest days of Integra orders when the manual take-rate was hovering around 70%. Clearly, late adopters weren't as eager to row their own. It's also important to note that the manual is exclusively tied to the loaded A-Spec with Technology package, so it's effectively a pricey option.

While 19% — roughly 3,732 units — may not seem like a lot, it's actually not bad these days, and not that far off the entire 2 Series Gran Coupe lineup. That number is also about to go up since the Type S is exclusively available with a six-speed manual.

A few other sales-related Integra tidbits:

It has the youngest buyers in the segment, as defined by those cars listed above, with 36% being younger than 35. Also, about 70% of buyers were of the "conquest" variety, meaning they were former Spanish Conquistadors. Wait, what's that? Oh, that makes more sense: So 70% of Integra buyers previously owned a car that wasn't an Acura, although when asked, Acura mentioned that it was possible that the buyers in question owned an Acura at some point in the distant past (you know, like an Integra) and were making a return to the brand.
19% of Acura Integras have been sold with a manual transmission - Autoblog
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what happened to the 50% take rate?

I expect it to be in the single digit next year and discontinued the year after.
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The wait is almost over for Acura fans, who will finally be able to jump behind the wheel of their brand-new Integra Type S. The model is set to arrive at dealers nationwide on Monday, June 19, as the fourth Type S car to hit the market over the last two years.

Carrying an MSRP of $50,800, the 2024 Acura Integra Type S sets itself apart from the rest of the range by packing a punchier engine. The turbocharged 2.0-liter VTEC steams out 320 hp (325 ps/239 kW) at 6,500 rpm and 310 lb-ft (420 Nm) of torque from 2,600 to 4,000 rpm. Gearshifting is done by hand via the short-throw six-speed manual transmission that features automatic rev-matching.

The car also gets a limited-slip differential for better power distribution and comes with a dual-axis front suspension. Performance-tuned adaptive dampers are also on deck, enhancing everyday driving, and the stopping power comes from the Brembo brakes. These back up the lightweight 19-inch wheels of the car, which were wrapped in Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires measuring 265/30 on both axles.

Besides the punchy motor, dedicated chassis setup, and uprated brakes, Acura's 2024 Integra Type S has a more aggressive exterior design. The widebody looks are joined by larger intakes in the front bumper, an aggressive diffuser at the rear, and center-mounted triple exhaust tips. The practicality is also enhanced as this model comes in a five-door liftback body style, and it is the only one with a focus on performance in the segment.

Opening the door will reveal the slightly upgraded interior over the normal Integras. The Type S gets front sports seats with a heating function, a head-up display, a 10.2-inch digital instrument cluster, a 9-inch infotainment system, a wireless charging pad, and a 16-speaker ELS Studio 3D premium audio system. All equipment mentioned above is standard.

Curious how much the Honda Civic Type R, aka the model on which the Integra Type S builds, costs? That would be $43,795, excluding destination, options, and dealer fees.

As for the rest of the range, it kicks off at $31,300 before destination and handling for the base trim level. The A-Spec grade will set you back at least $33,300, and getting the A-Spec with Technology Package means coughing out a minimum of $36,300. The latter comes with the option of a CVT (continuously variable transmission) or a six-speed manual gearbox, and both options cost the same.

Powering the regular Acura Integra family is a turbocharged 1.5-liter inline-four gasoline unit that produces 200 hp (203 ps/149 kW) at 6,000 rpm and 192 lb-ft (260 Nm) of torque between 1,800 and 5,000 rpm on 91-octane fuel. All versions of the car are front-wheel drive and feature a generous amount of gizmos.
Acura Fighting the Monday Blues, 2024 Integra Type S Arriving at Dealers on June 19 - autoevolution
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The 19th is also when the review embargoes lift. So it will be a lot of buzz for this launch.

Will be at my dealer on the 20th for an oil change, will see if they swapped out their TLX PMC for an ITS in the center of the showroom.
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The reintroduced Acura Integra is far and away one of my favorite vehicles on the market thanks to its blend of cabin space, nimble handling, and good ergonomics. As a daily driver, it’s hard to beat. But if there’s a notable flaw, it’s found under the hood. The turbocharged 1.5-liter four-cylinder makes a nippy – but not wild-haired – 200 horsepower and 192 pound-feet that require a fair amount of throttle before showing up to the party.

A light-on-its-feet hatchback that demands revs to move quickly? Sounds remarkably like the Integra from three decades ago, doesn’t it? And as with its ancestors, there’s now a hotter variant to give enthusiasts more of a thrill. The 2024 Acura Integra Type S is on its way to dealers as we speak, with an extra 120 hp and 118 lb-ft joining a wider track, stiffer suspension, upsized brakes, and more aggressive styling. Yet unlike the late, lamented DC2 Integra Type R, the new hot hatch doesn’t sacrifice comfort at the altar of speed. And unlike most things that sound too good to be true, the Integra Type S is a helluva ride.

The most important thing you need to know about the 2024 Acura Integra Type S is that it drives exactly like you’d expect, based on its looks alone (as well as a sneaky little teaser I got last year). At the press of the start button, the turbocharged 2.0-liter engine springs to attention with a thrum from the three tailpipes out back, and suddenly the car starts to deliver on the promises that the widened stance, hunky gold wheels, and revised aerodynamics make. The blatty exhaust will delight JDM fans, although some may find it a bit coarse compared to the turbo fours found in the Volkswagen Golf R, Audi S3, and Mercedes-AMG CLA35.

If refinement is the goal, then look no further than the Integra Type S’ brilliant (and mandatory) six-speed manual transmission. In spite of the engine’s added power, the geartrain feels just as tractable as in the regular ‘Teg, with a buttery short-throw shifter and communicative clutch pedal that’s lightweight without being vague. Of note, manual gearboxes aren’t even available on the Integra’s core competitors – the aforementioned Audi and Mercedes, as well as the Cadillac CT4-V and BMW M235i Gran Coupe. Thank goodness the last stick-shift entry in the segment is a truly brilliant ambassador for the type.

The Integra Type S suffers from some rev hang endemic to modern turbocharged, manual-shifted cars. That can make acceleration through the gears a bit choppy, as you engage the clutch only to find the engine spinning near where you left it. Alter your behavior by either shifting a bit slower or lifting the throttle proactively, and you’re blessed with thrilling acceleration. My butt tells me an Integra Type S could hit 60 miles per hour in just over 5 seconds, though Acura hasn’t published an estimate yet.

A helical limited-slip differential ensures there’s a constant supply of grip, while a twin-axis front suspension layout – borrowed from the Honda Civic Type R – almost completely eliminates torque steer. Flooring it out of an apex reveals benign, neutral handling that only rarely reveals some easily controllable wheel fight. Think of it as a characteristic instead of a design flaw and the minor torque steer even starts to feel fun.


One of the most compelling attributes of the standard 2023 Integra is how pleasant it is to drive in a variety of situations. Its adequate powertrain and responsive chassis conspire to make every trip feel engaging and fun. But the Type S – with 62 percent more power – has its work cut out for it in terms of maintaining that balanced driving behavior. Luckily, the front-drive-only ‘Teggy has plenty of tricks up its sleeve, starting with a comparatively light 3,219-pound curb weight that pays out with nimble, tossable reflexes in every driving situation.

And even though the Integra is front-wheel drive (as opposed to the all-wheel-drive Audi, BMW, and Mercedes or the rear-drive Caddy), the car puts its power down brilliantly. Like the manual versions of the regular hatch, the Type S comes standard with a true mechanical limited-slip differential, which helps split thrust evenly between the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires up front.


There’s also a dual-axis front steering knuckle in the double-wishbone suspension – borrowed from the Honda Civic Type R – which almost completely eliminates torque steer. As a result, flooring it out of an apex reveals benign, neutral handling that only rarely reveals a bit of wheel fight. Think of it as a charming idiosyncrasy instead of a design flaw and the minor torque steer even starts to feel fun.

Also contributing to the Integra Type S’ sense of grip and control is a 3.5-inch-wider front track and 1.8-inch-wider rear. Hidden by well-integrated wheel arch extensions, the wider stance and three-mode adaptive dampers provide excellent body control, giving the Integra a smooth ride in Comfort mode with progressively sharper reflexes in Sport and Sport+. Hammering through tight hairpins, the Integra resists high-frequency body motions beautifully, while long sweepers reveal the wider track’s excellent roll resistance and stability. Add in steering that’s quick and accurate – if a touch light – and you get one seriously confident vehicle.


With a thrilling powertrain and excellent handling dynamics, Acura would be doing the Type S a disservice if it came with subpar brakes. No problem here, with 13.8-inch front and 12.0-inch rear disc brakes replacing 12.3- and 11.1-inch units. Four-piston Brembo calipers up front chomp down hard on the rotating bits, with plenty of communication through the tires and chassis to help the driver balance the whoa-pedal appropriately mid-corner. The wider bumper corner openings are functional, feeding cool ambient air to the front brakes for even more consistent performance.

If the Integra Type S’ 2.0-liter powertrain, dual-axis front suspension, wider stance, and Brembo braking package sound familiar, that’s because they’re shared with the aforementioned Civic hot hatch. But the Integra wraps those dirty bits in a slightly more mature wrapper. For example, its rear wing is much less aggressive, with a simple lip on the end of the hatch as opposed to the Type R’s WRC-ready box spoiler. The exterior also gets revised front and rear fascias that improve aerodynamics and channel air toward the brakes and radiators. Between the body additions and wide stance, the Type S looks fun, flirty, and sporty.


The only exception to its bold, clean styling lies in the wheel arch treatment. The primary fender profile matches the regular Integra, with what look like tacked-on flares covering up the wheels. Look closer and it becomes apparent that they’re actually molded into the wheel arches, but I think the Civic Type R’s more smoothly integrated body extensions suit the Integra’s premium, mature mission better.

The nearly mechanically identical Civic Type R also benefits from being $7,605 cheaper than the Integra Type S. But there are some interior upgrades that make the Acura feel worth its base price of $51,995 (including $1,095 destination). Better materials range from leather and microfiber suede for the front and rear seats, as well as nicely padded knee bolsters and door panels for the front passengers. The seats are also less aggressively bolstered, appropriate for a compact executive cruise missile. I found them to be more than adequate at providing both long-haul comfort and excellent G-force resistance.


The Integra Type S comes comprehensively equipped from the get-go, with heated front seats, an ELS Studio 3D audio system with 16 speakers, and AcuraWatch advanced driver assistance. The long list of standard kit and the class-competitive materials help justify the Integra’s segment-topping starting price, but there are a few glaring omissions. For starters, the passenger seat doesn’t get height or lumbar adjustments, making it uncomfortable after a couple hours. And in spite of the audio upgrade and added sound deadening relative to the Civic Type R, the Integra is a bit booming on long trips, a problem I don’t remember in the S3 or CLA.

Still, none of its rivals offer the Integra Type S’ best feature: its hatchback body style. The rear bumper forces a high liftover (worth it to have the 1990s liftback latch cutout make its return), but once you’ve got your stuff heaved over the lip, you’ve got 24.3 cubic feet of space to pack up. By comparison, the Audi S3 has just 8.3 cubes, while the CLA35 isn’t much better at 11.6. And with the longest wheelbase in its class, passenger space in the Integra is also near the top, with airy accommodations up front and a surprising amount of room in back for two passengers – its max since there are only two seat belts on the rear bench.


In many ways, the 2024 Acura Integra Type S competes in a class of one, as the only manual-transmission hatchback in its class. If DIY performance is important to you, then the Acura is a bargain at any price. But it’s also hard to ignore that some of its rivals offer more technology. Even if you have to pay extra for it, the Cadillac CT4-V’s Super Cruise package would be tempting. So would the CLA35’s optional massaging and ventilated front seats. And the Audi S3 offers an impressive amount of polish and poise for such a compact vehicle, especially one with standard all-wheel drive and an Acura-competitive price.

If I owned the thing, I’d be grateful never to sit in its flat, unsupportive passenger seat. That, plus the occasionally droning exhaust and resonant cargo area, conspire to make the Acura feel a bit cheap relative to its competitors. But at the same time, it’s far more playful and nimble, turning every errand into an apex. I think the Integra Type S would be my pick of the litter thanks to its exuberant, sassy performance and everyday-usable shape. Much like the regular Integra, the 2024 Type S feels balanced and special, and it never fails to put a smile on my face. All that practicality is just a bonus.
2024 Acura Integra Type S First Drive Review: Up To Eleven (motor1.com)

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Embargo was lifted at 9am. There are dozens of reviews, most haven't gotten enough views to be on youtube search yet (they will by this afternoon) but can be seen on your favorite youtuber's own page under chronoligical "uploads".

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"There’s also a dual-axis front steering knuckle in the double-wishbone suspension – borrowed from the Honda Civic Type R – which almost completely eliminates torque steer. As a result, flooring it out of an apex reveals benign, neutral handling that only rarely reveals a bit of wheel fight. Think of it as a charming idiosyncrasy instead of a design flaw and the minor torque steer even starts to feel fun."

I hate when reviews impose too much optimism for something that is not neutral (let the customer decide)! Fans of manual transmissions will have to see if this is a deal breaker or go up to the TLX Type S for a few thousand more.

I fully expect this to remain a 5-sec car and slightly slower than the CTR.
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A review from Car and Driver:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-type-s-drive/

The ITS is a good 5" longer than the CTR!

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Exciting reviews so far. Tons of praise. My local dealer called me on Saturday saying their demo car is available to view. Haven't had a chance yet but I need to go see it while they have it for a couple of weeks and see if I can squeeze out a test drive as well. I'm on the waiting list there and should be #3.

I'm really hoping this will work out as it seems like the ITS would be the perfect DD for me.
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My understanding from the Serra guys is that each dealer will get a demo model (probably shipped from the youtuber drives in California) that they won't be permitted to sell for something like 60 days.

So the dealers should have one to testdrive. Today is the first permitted onsale day, lining up with when review embargoes ended. I'll take a look at my local dealer as I have service scheduled tomorrow.

They all know their allocations through year end and will likely adjust adm to target sales lining up with that inventory. No-ADM dealers will take waiting lists, but seems like the entire annual inventory has already been reserved at those dealers.

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^ Ford did the same with the Bronco. Dealers got 1 or 2 for test drives, had to be held for that purpose for X days before it could be sold.
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Originally Posted by mvl
My understanding from the Serra guys is that each dealer will get a demo model (probably shipped from the youtuber drives in California) that they won't be permitted to sell for something like 60 days.

So the dealers should have one to testdrive. Today is the first permitted onsale day, lining up with when review embargoes ended. I'll take a look at my local dealer as I have service scheduled tomorrow.

They all know their allocations through year end and will likely adjust adm to target sales lining up with that inventory. No-ADM dealers will take waiting lists, but seems like the entire annual inventory has already been reserved at those dealers.
My dealer said they have to hold on to the demo for at least 30 days before selling but they of course are already trying to find a buyer. It's white on red, which seems to be most or all of the dealer demo color combos. Not sure if these are the YT Cali cars, as I saw other colors such as blue. The SG video was shot here in Illinois and Wisconsin and it was blue.

Either way, I wouldn't want to buy the demo car anyway. My first choice would be gray on red, but I would consider blue or white with either black or red interior as well. I'll wait for the first few allocations to see if I can end up with a gray.
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Demo car = run hard & put away wet, to me.
I'd be leery, a bit.
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Yeah, don't buy the demo unit for a performance car. Wait a bit longer and get one that hasn't been beat on, especially if you're paying "new" pricing.
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That's some massively marked up accessories, 30% to 300% markups vs acura's website MSRPs. Just a coincidence that the accessories totaled $5 shy of $10k.
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Yeah, don't buy the demo unit for a performance car. Wait a bit longer and get one that hasn't been beat on, especially if you're paying "new" pricing.
I assume some of these demo's will have to be sold CPO once the mileage gets too high. For a rare car that may be a good way to go, both my newer Acuras were rare 6k-14k mileage CPOs at great prices, and most importantly no waiting list to purchase. Both look like regular-use trades and not demo's based on driving history, but regardless I got the 9yr/150k CPO warranty on each so I really don't care how hard they were driven.

If Acura follows their other TypeS patterns, there is only a single CPO warranty price per model regardless of trim, so it would be a really good deal.
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Dealer's smoking the good stuff thinking $70k for any Integra (outside of an OG ITR maybe) is passable.
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On that Thomas Integra window sticker, I'd like to know what the $314 is for carpet floor mats. Carpet floor mats come standard on every Honda/Acura AFAIK.

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IIRC, it's always been an optional extra. Whether they're extra premium mats, or just spares
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Clearly there is a lot of BS on there such as emblems that cost $1,700. I don't think so.

And yes, the bronze wheels can be purchased for around $360 each through Acura. No need to buy them as a dealer add-on.

I really hope my local dealer doesn't do shit like this, especially if they are trying to say no ADM. But they try to get it in the form of overcharged add-ons.
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I hope not too, did you sign anything that confirms details such as this?
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So I tried to preorder on Acura.com when they opened the online order banks for the first 200 cars back on Thursday. The website was so screwed up that thousands of people could not get the pages to load. I tried for two hours and eventually got through but my color combo (you had to choose from four different combos) was already sold out, so I put in a waitlist request at my local dealer.

I got a confirmation email and "hello" call from the dealer right afterward but I was busy the next few days and couldn't talk with a salesperson yet. I finally did today and guess what? They aren't selling it at MSRP. There will be an ADM of $5k-$10k that the "managers" are hashing out.

I gave him my honest opinion on the manner and told him I am not interested in paying over sticker, especially with the price already being on the high end for this car.

I will not be doing business with them unless they are willing to offer it to me at MSRP. He told me to keep them "in mind" the next few months. Of course he cited the CTR and how people are paying way over sticker. I told them they are nuts to be so financially irresponsible. I will find a car eventually and I am not playing that game.

Oh, and he also said, because I expressed that I am only interested in a manual transmission, that if I were willing to part with that, they have a few TLX Type S they could offer me at sticker. I said thanks but no thanks.

I also talked about my journey finding a new manual car, and the upcoming electrification of everything (he said Acura is going that route [duh everyone is] and they have to spend "hundreds of thousands on upgrading the dealership") and how times are too crazy right now to pay over sticker. I also told him that if they are willing to work with me at sticker, I would tell everyone I know and drive business their way. Is a few extra grand worth potentially more foot traffic in the dealer and more business? He got a little heated at this point and raised his voice saying he knows as he has been doing this for over twenty years. He still told me to think about it (the deal with them, with the ADM) and I told him to think about it, too.
And here is this dealer. Someone shared a photo of the sticker on their white/red demo. This is what I'm talking about... skirting around an ADM by overcharging for add-ons. I'm so glad I have been working with another dealer.

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I hope not too, did you sign anything that confirms details such as this?
I have not signed anything so nothing is in stone. They could end up trying to bamboozle me in the end. But so far they have been honest and upfront, and communicative.
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Honda dealers were doing this shit with the Civic Si when it first came out. It ridiculous.

I'd tell them point blank - "I'm interested in this car at MSRP with zero add-ons. Is that something your dealership is interested in doing? If not, I won't waste your time or mine."
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