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Old May 20, 2021 | 10:54 AM
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Simple bolt on and a tune will definitely get you in the low 4.5 seconds.
will only do if it’s proven reliable and won’t mess with warranty
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Old May 20, 2021 | 11:05 AM
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So $63K (in Southern California) for 4.7 seconds.......hmmmmm
So you’re assuming $10k markup here in Southern Cali?
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Old May 20, 2021 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by djhtsx
Simple bolt on and a tune will definitely get you in the low 4.5 seconds.
People who buy $60K cars don't tune. They don't track. They go to home depot and wine tasting on weekends. There's going to be a grand total of 10 of these tuned.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 11:53 AM
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So you’re assuming $10k markup here in Southern Cali?
Two dealers I spoke with gave me the whole speech about a Hot Car and Market Adjustment would be $10k. There was a long wait list, which was surprising to me.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MDXAccord
Two dealers I spoke with gave me the whole speech about a Hot Car and Market Adjustment would be $10k. There was a long wait list, which was surprising to me.
Norcal dealerships gave me the same ADM estimate.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SRB-TL
People who buy $60K cars don't tune. They don't track. They go to home depot and wine tasting on weekends. There's going to be a grand total of 10 of these tuned.
lol if you truly believe this you are living under a rock man.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MDXAccord
Two dealers I spoke with gave me the whole speech about a Hot Car and Market Adjustment would be $10k. There was a long wait list, which was surprising to me.
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. The dealer in Alhambra tried to impose a 5k markup when the new TLX was introduced. I’m glad I’m not looking to upgrade.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SRB-TL
People who buy $60K cars don't tune. They don't track. They go to home depot and wine tasting on weekends. There's going to be a grand total of 10 of these tuned.
WhatchutalkingaboutWillis??

Edit: I mean, I agree no Type S owner will tune or track their car, but there are tons of people who tune their far more expensive Porsches, AMGs, Bimmers and Audis.

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Old May 20, 2021 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SebringSilver
WhatchutalkingaboutWillis??

Edit: I mean, I agree no Type S owner will tune or track their car, but there are tons of people who tune their far more expensive Porsches, AMGs, Bimmers and Audis.
ThoseareactualsportscarsnotsportysedansWillis.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SRB-TL
People who buy $60K cars don't tune. They don't track. They go to home depot and wine tasting on weekends. There's going to be a grand total of 10 of these tuned.
Wrong!!! Have ridden in $200,000+ tuned car. Check out 1 mile runs.

Mostly sport cars 1 Mile Run
Texas Mile

Many BMW, MERC ETC
1/2 Mile Run
Lots of Sport Sedans

One I priced out was a bit over $54,000 with $1,000+ delivery charge

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Old May 20, 2021 | 12:42 PM
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Hopefully they can keep the APR around 0.9 to 1.9 which will again under cut the competition.
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How many mid-size sport sedans are 4221 lbs?!!!
485BHP Dodge Scat Pack?
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Old May 20, 2021 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
485BHP Dodge Scat Pack?
That's what I'm afraid of. The answer is typically a car that's far more muscular...
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Old May 20, 2021 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by djhtsx
Simple bolt on and a tune will definitely get you in the low 4.5 seconds.
Wishful thinking. I'm almost certain due to its complex engine design and other unknowns, I doubt many if not a rare few will provide aftermarket support. By the time that happens, 4.5 will be considered old news.

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People who buy $60K cars don't tune. They don't track. They go to home depot and wine tasting on weekends. There's going to be a grand total of 10 of these tuned.
In what world are we talking about here? This is far from the truth.

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WhatchutalkingaboutWillis??

Edit: I mean, I agree no Type S owner will tune or track their car, but there are tons of people who tune their far more expensive Porsches, AMGs, Bimmers and Audis.
Yeah, I can provide proof all day long that owners of 60K+ vehicles tune and modify. To be honest, it happens more often with leased vehicles.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 01:17 PM
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Local dealer selling for MSRP here, no markup. Taking requests for initial delivery in late June. Expecting 4-5 per month.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by djhtsx
Simple bolt on and a tune will definitely get you in the low 4.5 seconds.
Don't expect it to be a bolt on but a ECU tune. A few thoughts. Unless Acura was playing games with the YouTube cars they were running on Cal 91 which sucks. East coast S cars will run better because most stations carry 93 as the normal premium. Guys with a big balls & little brains can try to created poor mans race gas by mixing so E85 into what ever premium they have. Risk is finding out what point is too much, BOOM

The E85 mix works better with an actual 3rd party tune because you can introduce more E85 into the mix. Tunes might or might not happen. Might depend on sales volume for 3rd parties to do the research - of course they will need a test vehicle, you up to lending them one?

Lastly, if a tune does not get the car into the 3 second bracket why bother?

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Old May 20, 2021 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro194
Local dealer selling for MSRP here, no markup. Taking requests for initial delivery in late June. Expecting 4-5 per month.
Wow, $10K less than over here would make it a no brainer to buy from your area and have it shipped over.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
Wow, $10K less than over here would make it a no brainer to buy from your area and have it shipped over.
Or fly out and enjoy a cross country road-trip in a new car!

I gave them a deposit for when they can get the color combo that I'm looking for. Fell in love with the apex blue w/ red interior when the latest gen RDX came out. Looking for the same combo on the TLX with the upgraded wheels.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
I guess all those people predicting mid-4s are sweating bullets now. I hope they're right, but this is Acura we're talking about: overpromising and underdelivering has been the name of the game for the past decade.
I previously predicted 4.6 to 4.8 seconds. Sofyan at Redline Reviews got 4.73 seconds launching off the shoulder of a public road with an extra 150+ lbs passenger. Not to mention it beat the Audi S4 from a dig, and that does 60 in the low 4's. So it's safe to say the TLX Type S does low-to-mid 4's 0-60.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 02:12 PM
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I previously predicted 4.6 to 4.8 seconds. Sofyan at Redline Reviews got 4.73 seconds launching off the shoulder of a public road with an extra 150+ lbs passenger. Not to mention it beat the Audi S4 from a dig, and that does 60 in the low 4's. So it's safe to say the TLX Type S does low-to-mid 4's 0-60.
can you link me to that? Acura claims 5 seconds so that’s quite a bit faster plus a passenger
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Old May 20, 2021 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bilirubin
I previously predicted 4.6 to 4.8 seconds. Sofyan at Redline Reviews got 4.73 seconds launching off the shoulder of a public road with an extra 150+ lbs passenger. Not to mention it beat the Audi S4 from a dig, and that does 60 in the low 4's. So it's safe to say the TLX Type S does low-to-mid 4's 0-60.
Interesting, because AoA stated 4.95s, and Acura said 5s.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 02:19 PM
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Interesting, because AoA stated 4.95s.
Not to mention Sofyan's first two tries were ~5.1s on a highway. Anything below 4.5s is a major stretch.
Someone did mention in the Youtube comments if 4.7s includes the rollout.

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Old May 20, 2021 | 02:31 PM
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I see a lot of people "disappointed" in the 4.8 0-60. I'm not. It's faster than my Accord 2.0 with stage 2 tune. It doesn't need to be faster. I'm not out racing it against GT350s or Scat Packs(although that would be fun. Hahahah). So it has a 4.8-4.9 0-60. Cool. Great. What else? Yall know anything it has? Yall seem to be more worried about it's 0-60 than the other features. Lol. I'm not going to be doing 0-60 runs from every light.

Yes. Guys who spend $60k+ on a car mod them. You must not know much about the "tuner" world buddy.

I stated it before. Don't listen to no dealership about pricing or availability. A LOT of them have no clue about either until today. And they still won't know anything until they start actually coming in. Remember. There's a chip shortage going on so that June date might get pushed back.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 02:33 PM
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Or fly out and enjoy a cross country road-trip in a new car!
Sometimes that's the way to go. We ordered the Macan S at a dealership from a different state, had them ship to one of the Porsche experience sites, and fly there to pick it up. Fun road trip!
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Old May 20, 2021 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaverking
can you link me to that? Acura claims 5 seconds so that’s quite a bit faster plus a passenger
Does 0-60 in 4.73s at about 20:00 mark, and drag race vs Audi S4 starts at about 20:50.

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Not to mention Sofyan's first two tries were ~5.1s on a highway. Anything below 4.5s is a major stretch.
Someone did mention in the Youtube comments if 4.7s includes the rollout.
And that's with a passenger in the car, who has to weigh at least a buck 50.

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Interesting, because AoA stated 4.95s, and Acura said 5s.
Honda/Acura rarely give 0-60 estimates, and when they do, they are very conservative. AoA didn't test 0-60 in his typical testing site.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
Wrong!!! Have ridden in $200,000+ tuned car. Check out 1 mile runs.

Mostly sport cars 1 Mile Run
Texas Mile

Many BMW, MERC ETC
1/2 Mile Run
Lots of Sport Sedans

One I priced out was a bit over $54,000 with $1,000+ delivery charge
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Old May 20, 2021 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bilirubin
AoA didn't test 0-60 in his typical testing site.
But Sofyan did? I didn't realize he drove the car all the way back to Maryland...
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Old May 20, 2021 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
But Sofyan did? I didn't realize he drove the car all the way back to Maryland...
Sofyan appears to have used a draggy in less than ideal settings (public road shoulder, extra passenger) and still pulled a 4.7s.
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Originally Posted by bilirubin
Does 0-60 in 4.73s at about 20:00 mark, and drag race vs Audi S4 starts at about 20:50.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR0ZiXJ7lIs


And that's with a passenger in the car, who has to weigh at least a buck 50.


Honda/Acura rarely give 0-60 estimates, and when they do, they are very conservative. AoA didn't test 0-60 in his typical testing site.

Comical
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Old May 20, 2021 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN

Comical
Not really, 0-60 times done in different settings are subject to confound and make comparisons less reliable.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 03:20 PM
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Not really, 0-60 times done in different settings are subject to confound and make comparisons less reliable.
0-60 times always vary due to many different variables, like location (sea level), outside temperature, weather conditions, engine temperature as stupid as the weight of the driver or the driver itself. How deep do we want to go in this to make excuses? So yes, it's comical.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bilirubin
Sofyan appears to have used a draggy in less than ideal settings (public road shoulder, extra passenger) and still pulled a 4.7s.
So his numbers are accurate, but Alex's aren't?
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Old May 20, 2021 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
0-60 times always vary due to many different variables, like location (sea level), outside temperature, weather conditions, engine temperature as stupid as the weight of the driver or the driver itself. How deep do we want to go in this to make excuses? So yes, it's comical.
Which is why ideally testing should be done in the same setting, to minimize confound. And in case you're wondering even AoA admitted that his 4.95s is unofficial in his book until he gets to test it in his "home" track. It's in the video...

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So his numbers are accurate, but Alex's aren't?
When publications like C&D or MT talk 0-60, they give the quickest time after multiple attempts. And so far, 4.7s (with a passenger) is the quickest time from this press tour.
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Originally Posted by bilirubin
Does 0-60 in 4.73s at about 20:00 mark, and drag race vs Audi S4 starts at about 20:50.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR0ZiXJ7lIs


And that's with a passenger in the car, who has to weigh at least a buck 50.


Honda/Acura rarely give 0-60 estimates, and when they do, they are very conservative. AoA didn't test 0-60 in his typical testing site.
"Could use more power" seems to be the trend. Forgivable on the 2.0L but not so much on the Type S.

If I had mid-$50k to spend out the door, I'd probably go for the M340i.
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Which is why ideally testing should be done in the same setting, to minimize confound. And in case you're wondering even AoA admitted that his 4.95s is unofficial in his book until he gets to test it in his "home" track. It's in the video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0W0rqL8To


When publications like C&D or MT talk 0-60, they give the quickest time after multiple attempts. And so far, 4.7s (with a passenger) is the quickest time from this press tour.
So what's the standard gold procedure for everyone across the globe to follow for 0-60 times? I'm not slightly concern about what AoA admitted. Acura invited a bunch of Pro Honda / Acura journalists to their own event. It's all irreverent bias BS just like the comical S4 vs TLX-S race. AoA might as well test the TLX-S in my hometown after he's done at his "home" track.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 04:27 PM
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If I had mid-$50k to spend out the door, I'd probably go for the M340i.
That's probably the play for a RWD sedan, but the AWD M340i has worse dynamics. Mostly a bad weather tool. And a higher price. In socal they are only 2-3k below MSRP, around 59k plus tax/title.
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Old May 20, 2021 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
So what's the standard gold procedure for everyone across the globe to follow for 0-60 times?
Let me teach you. Over time, more numbers come in and you have a general consensus of what's accurate and a better understanding of what's an outlier. For example, people were worried when MT got a 7.0 sec 0-60 in the TLX 2.0T, but then you realize it's an outlier when publications like AoA, C&D, and Motorweek get 5.7 to 5.9 sec. And so far for the Type S, I've seen 4.7 (with passenger, from Sofyan) and 4.8 quoted (from Carbuzz) on the low end, both of which were not tested on an actual strip (i.e. less than ideal for finding the fastest possible time). Hope this helps!
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Let me teach you. Over time, more numbers come in and you have a general consensus of what's accurate and a better understanding of what's an outlier. For example, people were worried when MT got a 7.0 sec 0-60 in the TLX 2.0T, but then you realize it's an outlier when publications like AoA, C&D, and Motorweek get 5.7 to 5.9 sec. And so far for the Type S, I've seen 4.7 (with passenger, from Sofyan) and 4.8 quoted (from Carbuzz) on the low end, both of which were not tested on an actual strip (i.e. less than ideal for finding the fastest possible time). Hope this helps!
bro dont even bother trying to use reason to argue with some of the guys. they are all about their agenda and will twist any positive to poo poo on this car.
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bro dont even bother trying to use reason to argue with some of the guys. they are all about their agenda and will twist any positive to poo poo on this car.
Comical coming from you Mr. Lee. Thank god your Acura's savor! Make sure you let the buyers of the TLX-S know what type of special vehicle they purchased that will put the beating on the Germans, you know the haters.

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Let me teach you. Over time, more numbers come in and you have a general consensus of what's accurate and a better understanding of what's an outlier. For example, people were worried when MT got a 7.0 sec 0-60 in the TLX 2.0T, but then you realize it's an outlier when publications like AoA, C&D, and Motorweek get 5.7 to 5.9 sec. And so far for the Type S, I've seen 4.7 (with passenger, from Sofyan) and 4.8 quoted (from Carbuzz) on the low end, both of which were not tested on an actual strip (i.e. less than ideal for finding the fastest possible time). Hope this helps!
No need to teach me anything. I'm well aware of how everything works. Funny how the base model TLX was tested 0-60 and the numbers ranged from NJ to California. A bunch of hyper ecstatic fans kept making some poor excused and cling on the lowest possible number as earth shattering performance. Say whatever you want, it's over priced and under performs.
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"The Acura TLX Type S will be available in “limited quantities” and less than 2,000 units will be made for the 2021 model year. As a result, fans will want to contact their dealer and reserve their spot in line."

Ouch!! No lease deals on these, lol.
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