2021 Acura TLX Reviews **2024 TLX Reviews (starting page 70)**
#2881
I wonder if Acura did some tuning they didn't mention. Would be interesting to see someone put one of the new ones on the dyno to see if it's really more like 380bhp now instead of the advertised 355. It doesn't appear to launch any harder, so I imagine any gains must be purely from the powertrain. Skidpad and braking is better now too; better summer tires perhaps?
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Tested: 2024 Acura TLX Type S Keeps the Same Formula
Car and Driver's review has been updated with test numbers, which look great. Of note acceleration times are quicker than their prior tests in 2021. 0-60 mph is now 4.6 secs (previously 4.9 secs), 1/4-mile now 13.3 @105 mph (previously 13.6 @103 mph). What stands out is the from-idle to 60 time (aka 5-60 mph, or non-launch controlled acceleration) is now 5.2 seconds, which is just 0.1 seconds shy of the 6-cyclinder twin-turbo C43 AMG and G70 3.3TT (5.1 seconds), and much quicker than the Audi S4 and S5 Sportback (5.7-5.8 seconds).
Car and Driver's review has been updated with test numbers, which look great. Of note acceleration times are quicker than their prior tests in 2021. 0-60 mph is now 4.6 secs (previously 4.9 secs), 1/4-mile now 13.3 @105 mph (previously 13.6 @103 mph). What stands out is the from-idle to 60 time (aka 5-60 mph, or non-launch controlled acceleration) is now 5.2 seconds, which is just 0.1 seconds shy of the 6-cyclinder twin-turbo C43 AMG and G70 3.3TT (5.1 seconds), and much quicker than the Audi S4 and S5 Sportback (5.7-5.8 seconds).
#2883
That's a good point. C&D tested it in July last time.
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Many of the 'counterpoints' are fair enough, particularly with respect to those who maintain an enthusiast inclination. To be transparent, I'm one of the folks here who readily WOULD pay $5k more and get the M340i over the Type S. I could probably make it up in fuel savings alone.
I do take umbrage with the contingent of those who have patronized owners that openly enjoy their Type S, as though they were simply uninitiated when it comes to performance-oriented sedans; a sentiment that has plagued both the 1G and 2G forums.
I do take umbrage with the contingent of those who have patronized owners that openly enjoy their Type S, as though they were simply uninitiated when it comes to performance-oriented sedans; a sentiment that has plagued both the 1G and 2G forums.
However the compliments I get weekly on my TLX-S is just not something I could forsee happening alot (if at all) in a M340i sure it’s fast but it doesn’t look fast.
As I’ve said before I truly enjoy the Type-S for what it’s good at doing and for the current moment I’m happy with it.
But this is as good (and as fast) as it gets with Acura unless one is willing to spend big money and get a 2nd Gen NSX (NSX Type-S if you really a baller) so when the time comes I’m definitely going German for my next sports sedan (or shall I say “Super Sedan” iykyk)
That’s not to say I won’t keep an Acura in the stable though as a daily.
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#2888
Yes it is a known thing. Consumer Reports buys their test cars off the lot to avoid this. This doesn't mean that Acura or any other auto maker does this, but it is a possibility. In addition, there are production variants where some cars are faster or slower than standard, for whatever reason. My take on this is the winter scenario, or the transmission retuning, there maybe have been software update to the motor also.
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MarcoTLX (02-01-2024)
#2889
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I would say it's a personal preference, for me the IS500 is better looking than the TLX-S. As much as I would have liked the new TLX as a future replacement for my 2008 TL-S, the looks of it just doesn't wow me. Throw in the ugly push button selector and small back seat and that made it a no go.
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I would say it's a personal preference, for me the IS500 is better looking than the TLX-S. As much as I would have liked the new TLX as a future replacement for my 2008 TL-S, the looks of it just doesn't wow me. Throw in the ugly push button selector and small back seat and that made it a no go.
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I would say it's a personal preference, for me the IS500 is better looking than the TLX-S. As much as I would have liked the new TLX as a future replacement for my 2008 TL-S, the looks of it just doesn't wow me. Throw in the ugly push button selector and small back seat and that made it a no go.
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- Front seat/should, legroom and seats are the best in class.
- Trunk is very standard and not small like G70.
- Handling is precise and very good.
- Standard features are top notch.
- Cost is USD$10-15K or CAD$25K less than the Germans.
- Maintenance cost will be 50% cheaper than the competition.
- it will hold its value by 20-30% more as well.
- Finally, the RWD biased SH-AWD is one of the best if not best in the car industry.
But sadly everyone is pointing that 0-60 is 4.6 or 4.8 or 4.8321 lol! People are missing the big picture.
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As for the IS500, yes back seat is not bigger, the styling, IMO, is not better. The transmission stack is taken from the NSX, enough said. There is a $5K+ premium for the IS, the only thing it may have going for it is slightly better reliability. I've annoyed many wanting to "play tag" by flying by in the corners while they are braking, SH-AWD is amazing. The TLX-S is very underrated just because it is missing 20-30 HP. I definitely wouldn't mind the extra HP, but the Type S does many things well, right Tony Pac.
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#2894
In my opinion, the only thing the IS has going for it is that wonderful V8 option (probably the last of its kind) and beefy styling (from the front, at least). The rest all seems to be well behind the TLX. Not to mention that up here in Canada, an IS500 starts at $12,000 more than a Type-S.
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In my opinion, the only thing the IS has going for it is that wonderful V8 option (probably the last of its kind) and beefy styling (from the front, at least). The rest all seems to be well behind the TLX. Not to mention that up here in Canada, an IS500 starts at $12,000 more than a Type-S.
overall the new Lexus IS does not feel modern compared to its competitors. Its age is showing badly. At the price point for one of these new, I wouldn’t want to put up with the dated interior and technology in it.
The TLX Type-S truly is a better value compared to it if you don’t care to have a V8
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I sat inside an IS350 and 500 when I was at Montreal Autoshow. The issue with IS350 is the outdated interior. It doesn't look great although Lexus has made some changes. For the first time, I am noticing the quality of Acura products superior than Lexus. MDX feels and looks more premium than TX and I am comparing apples to apples. A-SPEC MDX to standard TX and not TYPE S to TX500H.
MDX>RX and TX
TLX >IS
RDX = NX
Integra =/< UX (depends which model)
I am not sure why Lexus downgraded. I always thought Lexus' interior are better than Acuras.
#2898
hahah believe it or not! I was driving after work and this brand new IS350 jumped in front of me. I noticed his turn signal was not LED. Right away, I told myself, one "ZONK"
I sat inside an IS350 and 500 when I was at Montreal Autoshow. The issue with IS350 is the outdated interior. It doesn't look great although Lexus has made some changes. For the first time, I am noticing the quality of Acura products superior than Lexus. MDX feels and looks more premium than TX and I am comparing apples to apples. A-SPEC MDX to standard TX and not TYPE S to TX500H.
MDX>RX and TX
TLX >IS
RDX = NX
Integra =/< UX (depends which model)
I am not sure why Lexus downgraded. I always thought Lexus' interior are better than Acuras.
I sat inside an IS350 and 500 when I was at Montreal Autoshow. The issue with IS350 is the outdated interior. It doesn't look great although Lexus has made some changes. For the first time, I am noticing the quality of Acura products superior than Lexus. MDX feels and looks more premium than TX and I am comparing apples to apples. A-SPEC MDX to standard TX and not TYPE S to TX500H.
MDX>RX and TX
TLX >IS
RDX = NX
Integra =/< UX (depends which model)
I am not sure why Lexus downgraded. I always thought Lexus' interior are better than Acuras.
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Personally, if I did not care for the experience, I would have gone and buy a Pilot and not a MDX and pay $15K premium to begin with. But when I am buying a Lexus TX for CAD$80K and I see the cheap and below standard material, it will hurt me.
#2900
I think you are only talking about the 1% folks (who most likely don't spend their time in these forums).
For the rest of us who like nicer things, we like both a great car and decent fuel economy. The upper middle class don't get there by making bad decisions.
For the rest of us who like nicer things, we like both a great car and decent fuel economy. The upper middle class don't get there by making bad decisions.
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Not accurate, as there are many with money that are still environmentally conscious. In some of the wealthier areas here there are a lot of EVs and hybrids, even older Prius vehicles. And financially you don't get rich/stay rich by dumping money down the drain. This is a big market ripe for a lot of growth.
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#2903
It’s Type S, Not Type R, for a Reason. Acura's tuned sedan offers sportiness you can use every day.
MotorTrend's review was updated with a track test, and they seem more forgiving.
This particular quote caught my attention...
Now I'm sure the "beating" the GR Supra was a typo, but I did notice that hot lap time was faster than some key competitors: Mercedes-AMG C43 and Audi S4, both of which were benchmarked when the TLX was in pre-production.
MotorTrend's review was updated with a track test, and they seem more forgiving.
This particular quote caught my attention...
The latest model completed its hot lap in 24.7 seconds, besting the prior test car's time by 0.3 second. That's genuinely quick; beating both the 2022 Toyota GR Supra's time of 23.8 seconds and the 2023 Nissan Z's 25.0-second run.
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#2904
Almost no one mentions the Q50 RS AWD in comparisons. That was the car I was dead set on getting but, like the germans, it was $10k more and I was already stretching my budget. With the most recent Type S price increase + the increased cost of the optional wheels I think it would be a hard choice. That TT engine is freakin sweet and with even a mild tune it would be 420-430hp. And a few hundred pounds less weight. I'm in this for the driving experience, not the tech, but the touchscreen is a lot better than the track pad. Anyone cross shop and have an opinion on it?
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hahah believe it or not! I was driving after work and this brand new IS350 jumped in front of me. I noticed his turn signal was not LED. Right away, I told myself, one "ZONK"
I sat inside an IS350 and 500 when I was at Montreal Autoshow. The issue with IS350 is the outdated interior. It doesn't look great although Lexus has made some changes. For the first time, I am noticing the quality of Acura products superior than Lexus. MDX feels and looks more premium than TX and I am comparing apples to apples. A-SPEC MDX to standard TX and not TYPE S to TX500H.
MDX>RX and TX
TLX >IS
RDX = NX
Integra =/< UX (depends which model)
I am not sure why Lexus downgraded. I always thought Lexus' interior are better than Acuras.
I sat inside an IS350 and 500 when I was at Montreal Autoshow. The issue with IS350 is the outdated interior. It doesn't look great although Lexus has made some changes. For the first time, I am noticing the quality of Acura products superior than Lexus. MDX feels and looks more premium than TX and I am comparing apples to apples. A-SPEC MDX to standard TX and not TYPE S to TX500H.
MDX>RX and TX
TLX >IS
RDX = NX
Integra =/< UX (depends which model)
I am not sure why Lexus downgraded. I always thought Lexus' interior are better than Acuras.
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Almost no one mentions the Q50 RS AWD in comparisons. That was the car I was dead set on getting but, like the germans, it was $10k more and I was already stretching my budget. With the most recent Type S price increase + the increased cost of the optional wheels I think it would be a hard choice. That TT engine is freakin sweet and with even a mild tune it would be 420-430hp. And a few hundred pounds less weight. I'm in this for the driving experience, not the tech, but the touchscreen is a lot better than the track pad. Anyone cross shop and have an opinion on it?
#2907
I did not. When I got serious about finally buying and not window shopping there was a $5-10k difference between the Acura and everything else except the Hyundai. Prices seem to have jumped the last 2 years but the Infiniti doesn't seem as bad so now they're all getting closer to each other. The Type S isn't the bargain it was IMO. "Dated" tech isn't an issue for me. I barely even turn on the radio. And the few times it's a convenience to punch something into the nav the touch screen would be a lot easier/intuitive.
#2908
It’s Type S, Not Type R, for a Reason. Acura's tuned sedan offers sportiness you can use every day.
MotorTrend's review was updated with a track test, and they seem more forgiving.
This particular quote caught my attention...
Now I'm sure the "beating" the GR Supra was a typo, but I did notice that hot lap time was faster than some key competitors: Mercedes-AMG C43 and Audi S4, both of which were benchmarked when the TLX was in pre-production.
MotorTrend's review was updated with a track test, and they seem more forgiving.
This particular quote caught my attention...
Now I'm sure the "beating" the GR Supra was a typo, but I did notice that hot lap time was faster than some key competitors: Mercedes-AMG C43 and Audi S4, both of which were benchmarked when the TLX was in pre-production.
I don't buy that Acura did any tuning as their resources are better utilized away from the dying sedan segment.
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hahah believe it or not! I was driving after work and this brand new IS350 jumped in front of me. I noticed his turn signal was not LED. Right away, I told myself, one "ZONK"
I sat inside an IS350 and 500 when I was at Montreal Autoshow. The issue with IS350 is the outdated interior. It doesn't look great although Lexus has made some changes. For the first time, I am noticing the quality of Acura products superior than Lexus. MDX feels and looks more premium than TX and I am comparing apples to apples. A-SPEC MDX to standard TX and not TYPE S to TX500H.
MDX>RX and TX
TLX >IS
RDX = NX
Integra =/< UX (depends which model)
I am not sure why Lexus downgraded. I always thought Lexus' interior are better than Acuras.
I sat inside an IS350 and 500 when I was at Montreal Autoshow. The issue with IS350 is the outdated interior. It doesn't look great although Lexus has made some changes. For the first time, I am noticing the quality of Acura products superior than Lexus. MDX feels and looks more premium than TX and I am comparing apples to apples. A-SPEC MDX to standard TX and not TYPE S to TX500H.
MDX>RX and TX
TLX >IS
RDX = NX
Integra =/< UX (depends which model)
I am not sure why Lexus downgraded. I always thought Lexus' interior are better than Acuras.
Sidenote: Got to meet Scott Pruett and Roberto Guerrero at this event. Completely made this even worthwhile; great guys with some serious driving ability.
#2910
Toyota has improved interiors but Lexus not so much. Sit in the new NX or RX and it's basically Toyota+
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You're not the only one to compare the Integra (NOT the Type S one) to the Lexus UX, Tony. I think I remember Alex on Autos also compared side to side. Interesting comparison that seems strange at first glance. Admittedly both are going to be very reliable entry-level pathways into the Japanese Premium/Luxury space for many. Eye-catching styling in both cases and more appealing to efficiency-minded folks than their bigger brothers. A manual A-Spec Integra or even the CVT is always going to be way more fun to drive than any UX, though, which is a relative plodder.
I don't have any experience with UX but I heard it's very slow.
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When Acura was behind with interiors Lexus fanboys were always boasting about the interiors. Now that they're cheaping out and Acura has matched or surpassed them on some models it's no longer a factor 🫠.
Toyota has improved interiors but Lexus not so much. Sit in the new NX or RX and it's basically Toyota+
Toyota has improved interiors but Lexus not so much. Sit in the new NX or RX and it's basically Toyota+
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Tested: 2024 Acura TLX Type S Keeps the Same Formula
Car and Driver's review has been updated with test numbers, which look great. Of note acceleration times are quicker than their prior tests in 2021. 0-60 mph is now 4.6 secs (previously 4.9 secs), 1/4-mile now 13.3 @105 mph (previously 13.6 @103 mph). What stands out is the from-idle to 60 time (aka 5-60 mph, or non-launch controlled acceleration) is now 5.2 seconds, which is just 0.1 seconds shy of the 6-cyclinder twin-turbo C43 AMG and G70 3.3TT (5.1 seconds), and much quicker than the Audi S4 and S5 Sportback (5.7-5.8 seconds).
Car and Driver's review has been updated with test numbers, which look great. Of note acceleration times are quicker than their prior tests in 2021. 0-60 mph is now 4.6 secs (previously 4.9 secs), 1/4-mile now 13.3 @105 mph (previously 13.6 @103 mph). What stands out is the from-idle to 60 time (aka 5-60 mph, or non-launch controlled acceleration) is now 5.2 seconds, which is just 0.1 seconds shy of the 6-cyclinder twin-turbo C43 AMG and G70 3.3TT (5.1 seconds), and much quicker than the Audi S4 and S5 Sportback (5.7-5.8 seconds).
From the article, Honda/Acura did some ECU tuning for 2024.
Moreover, this year's recalibrated Sport+ mode now offers even more aggressive throttle response than before. At the track, our Type S test car put all this together to sprint to 60 mph in 4.6 seconds on the way to a 13.3-second quarter-mile pass at 105 mph—that's o.3 second quicker to 60 and 2 mph faster through the quarter than before. For reference, the last Audi S4 we tested did those deeds in 4.2 and 12.8 seconds, respectively, but its 70-mph stop (162 feet) and lateral grip (0.95 g) lagged behind the Type S.
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That said, still an interesting and informative video!
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"The redline in this car is completely pointless!"
He really didn't like the steering or the auto upshift on that winding canyon road!
The lurch he felt slowing down from 2nd to 1st gear was what I felt when driving in Comfort/Normal mode on my A-Spec. You won't get any transmission help to slow you down in this mode!
#2919
Good video but Acura never said this is going against M3 or C63. Our reviewer got it wrong I don't understand how some reviwers don't do their homework and come give public a review...calling the TYPE S Twin turbo, not the same as C63 or etc. Does he know the C63 is legit 2X more expensive than this???
That said, still an interesting and informative video!
That said, still an interesting and informative video!