djwoody

Here's the latest from a local Canadian Acura dealer: Perhaps this is the "new" model referred to by the OP.

May 11, 2010
The Acura TL A-Spec is now available; MSRP set at $51,290 (Canadian dollars)
As reported by Acura

Acura Canada announced that the limited-edition A-Spec variant of the Acura TL will be sold at a base MSRP of $51,290 starting today.



The 2010 Acura TL A-Spec features the brand’s Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) as well as all the amenities of the Acura TL SH-AWD Technology, either with a 6-speed manual transmission or a 5-speed automatic transmission. Unique features include:

* 19-inch alloy wheels with special high-performance summer tires;
* Full Aero kit (front, side and rear skirts)
* "Midnight" chrome finish on the front grille and rear trim;
* "A-Spec" badges and floor mats.

dsw1ft

I really hope this change will not be enough to make me feel like I just bought an old model vehicle.

NJ SHAWD

If that's what they're offering, it's nothing more than an SHAWD with all options...except you get better floor mats. If that's true, Honda should be embarrassed.

Pete2010

I think that's just what they're doing to push the excess TL's up in Canada. I doubt any of that has to do with the 2011 TL.

YetiTL

This is the canadian A-Spec and nothing more. This is no 2011 TL, this is just an option for the 2010 Canadian models...

compewterbleu

I just got off the phone to my local Acura dealer and while speaking to the salesmen who sold me my car we were overheard by the dealership owner's son the company VP. The VP said there is no re-design for 2011. In year four of this current design the car most likely will get a make over if not it will be year 5, but other than minor changes here and there, nope. The grill he said is Acura's signature. It may get re-sized over the 4G's tenure or integrated, but other than that the shape will be integrated into future designs. Re-tooling is costly. As far as the new NSX and next generation RL...they will be bad ass.

Kingmeow

Uh oh....!

NJ SHAWD

Fixored

Pete2010

Umm...except the new NSX project has been scrapped, engine and all. So I really question the rest of what he said and the accuracy of it.

Unless he knows something about the new NSX that the rest of the car enthusiast world doesn't know yet which would be freaking sweet.

compewterbleu

I was told it's still going. In fact I was told it's not even a V-8, but a V-10...that was yesterday afternoon when I stopped by to get my car washed. I've read where they talked about scaling it back from a a 600hp V-10 super car that would smoke a GT-R and the new Lexus LF-A to more along the line of a 370Z competitor. Which makes economic sense. Nissan is either going to change the GT-R after 1.5 years or side line and the Lexus is being looked at puzzling about the LF-A due to Toyota's problems and the economy.

Oswald Vater

Not to throw a damper on things as I am just as anxious for info on the 11's as anybody but as per an earlier thread on this subject and the various difference of opinions in this post, any news on the 2011 at this point continues to be speculation at best. The recent new car issue of Consumer Reports said that the TL is no longer a leader in its class so I for one certainly do hope they incorporate at least some changes in the 2011 to get it back to the top (I think the best safe bet is the 6-speed auto). I know its hard to be patient but a September-October intro is only 3-4 months away. I'm thinking we'll have to wait at least until mid-August before we know anything definite.

Scotten

Anyone know when the MY 2011 cars will arrive? I assume same time of year as the '10's, but I don't know when that was.

stagefoursurvivor

As someone completely new to Acura/Honda I'm really glad they've lost their top spot!
I researched the midsize sedan market for 2 months, from Acura, Honda, MB, Lexus, Toyota, Nissan, Infiniti & BMW. I kept coming back to Acura. I liked the RL but, it's become dated.
When I looked at the quality, fit & finish, AWD, size, comfort, Acura kept coming out on top all around.
I have always preferred the eurostyle drive and handling.
When I compared ALL the features, the TL provided the most "bang" for my buck.
The only thing I don't like is the bump in the back seat!

Pete2010

Yea - I don't really care what their sales are. Doesn't really matter to me if they are at the top of the group or not. I like that there are not a billion of them everywhere, makes mine more unique.

compewterbleu

Not the NSX but a hellified Honda

PhoenixUnit

Agreed!

Pete2010

Yea, that's the HSV-010 for SuperGT - it's built on the same chassis that the supposed "next NSX" is built on... But I thought I heard the entire engine program was scrapped. At this point I won't believe anything until I see it @ my Acura dealer.

docboy

Straight from Temple of VTEC today, FWIW:

# TL A 6MT version of the TL SH-AWD was quietly introduced last year. It's a brilliant performer but so are many of its closest competitors. No significant changes are expected in 2011, as the MMC is due in 2012. When the MMC comes, a 6AT will very likely become the standard transmission, and styling tweaks are almost a certainty.
Summary: No major changes for 2011
Watch For: 6AT and styling tweaks expected at the MMC next year.
Available: Autumn

compewterbleu

I'm pretty much with you on that. When it hits the dealership then we know what Acura is working with. But it's speculation that generates some interesting talk...

jspagna1

I think Honda is going to let this newest design run it's course (4-5 Year) run and then change the 5thG TL. Too much money to spend on retooling at this point in time especially with the economy.

Oswald Vater

If this is indeed the case, I will probably up the lease on my 08 for another year and wait for the 2012's.

BLEXV6

Generally Honda runs their models for 5 years, and at year 4 changes little things like the front and rear lights and add a few goodies to the interior, and maybe change the fake wood to a different colour. If this is right, I can see them changing the 2011 a bit as this would be the 4th model year of this design. I can only assume Honda is late to the 6 speed auto is all the problems they had with the 5 speed auto and they may actually have the 5 speed perfected.

t7n7

yup... just picked up my 2010 apec tl tonight and i was very firm with the local manager about getting an 2011 model if there were to be any noticable changes and he PROMISED ME, there was going to be very minor if not any changes at all for the 2011 model. The redesign will be in 2012-2013.

the Aspec skirt package makes it a lot more aggressive and the chrome is a bit different which matches the car much better.. These noticable changes caught my eye and i ended up getting it...

This is my old car.. my G... once sold, the TL will get all my undivided attention

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emhEwehhEE4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2BaqXBgJAI

t7n7

This is my OLD TL... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7oiYnpygmY

Acura never disappoints

silver01cltypes

[QUOTE=t7n7;12091128]yup... just picked up my 2010 apec tl tonight and i was very firm with the local manager about getting an 2011 model if there were to be any noticable changes and he PROMISED ME, there was going to be very minor if not any changes at all for the 2011 model. The redesign will be in 2012-2013.

the Aspec skirt package makes it a lot more aggressive and the chrome is a bit different which matches the car much better.. These noticable changes caught my eye and i ended up getting it...

i also have my G " http://www.youtube.com/user/wisht7n7 " which i'm selling]



congrats what color did you get?have any pics?

black label

Your dealership's owner's son's is VP of the phony rumor mill. No variant of the vehicle you posted will ever "hit the dealership" unless it happens to fall out of a plane on it's way to a race. There will be no V8, there will be no V10. Put the free kool aid down and walk away from Jonestown Acura.

The next RL is going to be a hybrid V6 and Acura is out of the sportscar business.

wmahmud

How much did you end up paying OTR for the A-Spec model if you don't mind me asking??

t7n7

hey, I don't mind at all.. it came up to around 48000$ before taxes... I personally think I got a good deal.

Black/Black is the car.. its on my avatar

also check out acura.ca and click A-SPEC for more pics! ... i can't seem to find any pics on the net so i'm gonna take some with my dslr and post it..

Anyone interested in a photoshoot, give me a shout!! i'm back on zine... and i still got my 1st gen TL... which will always be my favourite

ayuandmi

Nice color combo! post pictures please !

compewterbleu

I stick by what I stated. If not I never said it was "fact" but what I was told. And you even reposted the part of when I said it is speculation that leads to interesting chatter. Unless you are the top suit at Acura yourself you don't even know for sure. So there is no need to try to flex your muscle to impress anyone, especially me. Calm down son.

NwTSXmt

So The Manager called just to tell You...

compewterbleu

It appears that the dealerships aren't sure and the suits at Honda/Acura aren't set on which direction their going as the market is effecting finances. I stop my dealership every Friday as it own my way home to get my free car wash. And the last two trips I may have heard one true statement...it's all speculation until it hit the showroom floors.

compewterbleu

...also, a co-worker of mine just purchased a new 2011 Mustang V-8 glass roof, sweet. She commented that she is such a fan of my TL SH-AWD and I mentioned to her the grille dilemma, she pointed out a 2010 Nissan Maxima and said the grill is bland and it looks like a stretched Z. Then she pointed out that the TL looks like a rolling piece of art. I got 4 compliments outside the Highland Bakery in the ATL yesterday...2 froom BMW drivers. Much of the TL's bad fortunes in the looks department are from close minded folks who don't like change or just are use to something different. My date for Brunch said it's luxurious but has that power edge to it. Then I saw a link about the Lacrosse vs TL online. It amazes me how MT is on the Buick Lacrosse's jock when it looks like it stole the TL's styling cues and added the Dodge Chargers rear quarter panel to the design. MT continues to compare apples to kiwis, no wonder I stopped my subscription. Two different vehicles. I just can't see myself pulling up in my driveway in a Buick...they haven't arrived yet. IMO.

black label

Just letting you know that the things you are speculating about are fantasy. Acura has already confirmed that the HSV 010 came about as a way to not completely waste the R&D they put into the now defunct NSX replacement but have been adamant that there will be no road going variant.

They are much more concerned about being able to acheive the impending 2016 CAFE regulations than they are about sports car replacements.

Pete2010

This. Acura (and Honda for that matter) is no longer a sports car company. They killed the s2k, they killed the NSX.

But I would LOVE to be proven wrong... and for them to come out with their 2012 S3k... but I doubt it...

compewterbleu

Once again...I will remind you to read what you wrote. Which also speculation unless as I stated you are pulling the decision triggers at Honda/Acura. You seem to have an issue with other folks having a view or opinion that doesn't align with your own.

acurapartssource

I do not know much but here's what I know to be true. They have pushed the release back to spring of 2011 for the TL mid-model changes. The "NSX" has not been completely scrapped, but is on the shelf for now.

Sonor Kid 2

Really...........?
I don't like the new TL because I'm close minded and don't like change, hmm..
Thanks for telling us how we feel, kudos to you folks who like the new design as you are definitely in the minority which reflects Acura's current sales numbers, all the folks who don't care for it are all closed minded I guess.
I hope Acura changes the design of the TL, it's a great car but still can't deal with the design.
I don't think the LaCross is so different from the TL in AWD form, I still think it looks better IMHO, however I still wouldn't buy one.

MyCarIsntInMyWifesName

I respectfully and fully disagree with this.

It isn't not wanting change, it's that a lot of people just think it's UGLY. I'm sorry so many 4G owners/fans don't get this but it's the TRUTH. LOTS of people think it's ugly. And many of those people are owners of other Acuras (including the previous TL) as well as other potential buyers you have been turned off by their styling direction.

As a final note on that topic I can tell you there are reasons other than just styling that have turned buyers away as well.

MT comparison aside, I don't see a drop of the TL that's like the Lacrosse. The Lacrosse's lights front and back are different, the grille, bumpers, exhaust tips, window trim, window line, EVERYTHING seems different. Same goes for the interior. And not only does its character line look NOTHING like the Charger, it's borrowed from classic Buicks. Maybe it's the Charger that's doing some copying (keeping in mind again they look NOTHING alike, but if they did....).

I could also say it's closed minded to not want to pull "up" in a car with a brand symbol that "hasn't arrived".

black label

When I restate something that has been stated by the trigger pullers at the corporate level it's a little more than speculation, it's a statement of fact. They may flip their direction from where it is now, but the current plans for the future of Acura don't involve V8's or NSX replacements, they involve hybrids and station wagons and an entry level vehicle to be priced under the TSX. I'm sorry if you feel that my posts are attacking you personally, they are not. My posts are just information about the current direction of the manufacturer based on information provided by the manufacturer.