2009 TL Pictures? ***NEW PICS ON PAGE 44***
07-16-2008, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by csmeance
jk'ing....just my gettho 2 minute chop
and here's my review of the 4G TL pics so far:
07-16-2008, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by zeezz
is that actually a spy pic? or just the MDX interior?
07-16-2008, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by WiLLrOx
it's a chop. he wrote in white font underneath the pic basically saying it's fake...
07-16-2008, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by zeezz
it's pretty shitty but it'll have to do 
07-16-2008, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by zeezz
lol, sorry my bad. getting late.
07-16-2008, 05:36 AM
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Looks good, i like it. Put the 4G in the hands of a modder, and just with rims, kit, and a drop it will be a head turner.
I think I'd rather wait and see if a TL-S version comes out. Also, doesn't help knowing that there are the battery powered / hybrid sport sedans / cars coming around the corner. The torque on those will be massive IMO.
I think I'd rather wait and see if a TL-S version comes out. Also, doesn't help knowing that there are the battery powered / hybrid sport sedans / cars coming around the corner. The torque on those will be massive IMO.
07-16-2008, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by albeik
Spied: Interior Shot
Source: http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-conte...90&idg=1&idi=1
hmm.. No Start/Stop button?! Screen way too far to support Touch-Screen... Otherwise looks very Acura-ic! :P
Source: http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-conte...90&idg=1&idi=1
hmm.. No Start/Stop button?! Screen way too far to support Touch-Screen... Otherwise looks very Acura-ic! :P
07-16-2008, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Dyno's on the Rl lose ~35% of the HP to Wheels.
Dyno's of the TL lose ~17% of the HP to the Wheels.
IOW:
RL = 290 HP crank --> ~190 WHP
TL Base = 258 Crank --> ~215 WHP
TL-S (5AT) = 286 Crank --> ~235 WHP
GUESS: '09 TL SH-AWD = 310 Crank --> ~215 WHP
SH-AWD Torque on the RL ain't bad, but it stand up and Scream "Acceleration" either.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=Dyno
That dyno is before the MMY refresh, so maybe a couple more points to the RL woith the 3.7L. Point is the SH-AWD as deployed loses a LOT of HP to the drive train.
Dyno's of the TL lose ~17% of the HP to the Wheels.
IOW:
RL = 290 HP crank --> ~190 WHP
TL Base = 258 Crank --> ~215 WHP
TL-S (5AT) = 286 Crank --> ~235 WHP
GUESS: '09 TL SH-AWD = 310 Crank --> ~215 WHP
SH-AWD Torque on the RL ain't bad, but it stand up and Scream "Acceleration" either.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=Dyno
That dyno is before the MMY refresh, so maybe a couple more points to the RL woith the 3.7L. Point is the SH-AWD as deployed loses a LOT of HP to the drive train.
my 01 CL-S has 211whp and will prob. be alot lighter than the 09 TL SH-AWD.
07-16-2008, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by evoman
I think that this is the non tech-model, that is why there is no keyless start....cos in the other spy pics, there was a button on the door handle...which is common on cars with keyless start.
Even if it was a tech model, this is a test mule with multiple drivers and using a key would be easier in case you are switching cars/drivers as you can just leave the keys in the car.
07-16-2008, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Why I remember back in the old days, you had to lock your own doors, turn off your own lights and roll down your own windows.
Whipper-Snappers.
07-16-2008, 11:22 AM
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I'm sure the interior will be quite similar to the 09 TSX. I had this loaner last week and took a few pics of it.
Here's the interior if you haven't seen it yet.
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Here's the interior if you haven't seen it yet.
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07-16-2008, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FastInFairway
I'm sure the interior will be quite similar to the 09 TSX. I had this loaner last week and took a few pics of it.
Here's the interior if you haven't seen it yet.
Here's the interior if you haven't seen it yet.
- Gauge cluster will be different
- Navi screen encasing is different
- vent placement are different
- button layout is different
Other than that I hope wood, aluminum trim layout is different and hope Acura does enough to differentiate TL from TSX.
07-16-2008, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TL|GTX
Man this interior center console is all cheap and plastic, still no push start. I think the 08 tl will be my last acura. I think im gunna get an infitini.
uh yea infiniti's interiors suck ass
07-16-2008, 02:04 PM
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I'm very disappointed by the apparent demise of the touchscreen navi. That's a huge plus in my book. I almost bought an 07 GS35X before my 07 TL-S. While it had a touchscreen, it locks you out while moving. The voice activation was worthless and using the knob/dial is highly annoying when you are used to the touch.
I'm not sold on the front of the new TL yet--not bad, not great. I'm very worried about the back. But, the interior shots seem totally underwhelming.
A friend of mine has the new MDX. It's very nice, but the interior, particularly the center console, is too busier and cheaper looking than mine.
I'll have to see this car in person. I've been figuring I'd just get an 09 w/ AWD as soon as it comes out, but I hope they don't kill the deal with these design changes.
I'm not sold on the front of the new TL yet--not bad, not great. I'm very worried about the back. But, the interior shots seem totally underwhelming.
A friend of mine has the new MDX. It's very nice, but the interior, particularly the center console, is too busier and cheaper looking than mine.
I'll have to see this car in person. I've been figuring I'd just get an 09 w/ AWD as soon as it comes out, but I hope they don't kill the deal with these design changes.
07-16-2008, 03:06 PM
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I really don't care about the interior as much i as care about performance. And it may not look as good as the 04-08 tl's but looks better then the 09 tl for a fact. And the g35 will outperform a tl any ways. And its a lil bit cheaper. If the o9 tl isn't what they say it is for sure infinti will be next car.
07-16-2008, 04:59 PM
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To me the features of the exterior that look good are copies of existing designs (Camry, GS, Maxima) and the features that are unique don't look good (the new grill theme is hideous and the angled rear reminds me of the 1st gen CL ). Also not a fan of the design being bulkier (and likely heavier). Just strikes me as a me too design.
). Also not a fan of the design being bulkier (and likely heavier). Just strikes me as a me too design.
07-16-2008, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Why I remember back in the old days, you had to lock your own doors, turn off your own lights and roll down your own windows.
Whipper-Snappers.
07-16-2008, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mansa24
Am I the only one here who hates having stuff in their pockets, especially keys. When driving loaners or my ole lady's car, keys in my pocket are very annoying. Push Start is a nice option, but I probably still put my key in the ignition. I just don't see the big deal with push button start. 
I would rather have better paint, power tilt and telescoping steering wheel, heads up display, and better leather just to name a few.
I would rather have better paint, power tilt and telescoping steering wheel, heads up display, and better leather just to name a few.
07-16-2008, 06:33 PM
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I think losing the touch screen nav is a HUGE mistake, though I'm not surprised because that seems to be the trend with all lux cars these days. It's funny how smartphones are all moving from scroll wheels, trackballs, and arrow keys to touchscreens, while the exact opposite happens with built-in navs.
The only saving grace would be if the new nav has substantially upgraded voice control for entering streets and addresses, and also business names, so that you never have to use the wheel to enter letters and numbers. The voice response has to be accurate and FAST. Otherwise we're talking major tedium spinning that stupid wheel around to pick letters one by one.
I also just don't like how the new interior looks. The 3G TL is clean and high tech at the same time. It's a great balance.
The only saving grace would be if the new nav has substantially upgraded voice control for entering streets and addresses, and also business names, so that you never have to use the wheel to enter letters and numbers. The voice response has to be accurate and FAST. Otherwise we're talking major tedium spinning that stupid wheel around to pick letters one by one.
I also just don't like how the new interior looks. The 3G TL is clean and high tech at the same time. It's a great balance.
07-16-2008, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithL
The 07/08 key fob is hedious and the switchblade nature is alwasy opening in my pocket. IA nice small keyless fob aka Infinit is far more convienent. If Infiniti and Nissan can offer keyless entry and start on cars as low as $15K I think Acura can make it standard on everything since they all start over $30K.
IMO, push button start is cool when you only carry around one or two keys. Unfortunately I have more keys/key fobs on my key ring than I'd like so I don't mind taking my keys out of my pocket to drive.
07-16-2008, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mansa24
True about the 07/08 key fob. After having an 08 loaner (VSA was annoying as heck) for a weekend, the switchblade key fob isn't that cool.
IMO, push button start is cool when you only carry around one or two keys. Unfortunately I have more keys/key fobs on my key ring than I'd like so I don't mind taking my keys out of my pocket to drive.
IMO, push button start is cool when you only carry around one or two keys. Unfortunately I have more keys/key fobs on my key ring than I'd like so I don't mind taking my keys out of my pocket to drive.
It actually took LONGER to start the G35 in some instances. Various car mags have complained about this too. I say if you want to aspire to the integration of these types of features, look to someone who has executed it and made it cool as well. If you can't do it like Mercedes (SL) don't do it at all. 
Just my
07-16-2008, 08:08 PM
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^^ nice chop bro.
07-16-2008, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FastInFairway
I'm sure the interior will be quite similar to the 09 TSX. I had this loaner last week and took a few pics of it.
Here's the interior if you haven't seen it yet.
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Here's the interior if you haven't seen it yet.
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07-16-2008, 11:27 PM
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I hate those needles that are hidden in the middle. I also hate hondas new center stacks with the big knobs, wtf is that.
I have a feeling that I will like the current interior better than the new one, which is both good and bad. good that i'm not tempted to upgrade my tl, but bad that i'm not really digging any of honda's new offerings.
I have a feeling that I will like the current interior better than the new one, which is both good and bad. good that i'm not tempted to upgrade my tl, but bad that i'm not really digging any of honda's new offerings.
07-16-2008, 11:52 PM
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^^^^ That's simply .......... sick.
Nice job. Now print it out on postersized paper, put it on a bat and beat it over Acura's upper management letting them know how close they were/are.
Nice job. Now print it out on postersized paper, put it on a bat and beat it over Acura's upper management letting them know how close they were/are.
07-17-2008, 06:26 AM
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I took the last photochop and worked on lowering the front hood line. I suck at photoshop but I lowered the headlights to the bottom of their stock placement.
07-17-2008, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocketsfan
^^^^ That's simply .......... sick.
Nice job. Now print it out on postersized paper, put it on a bat and beat it over Acura's upper management letting them know how close they were/are.
Nice job. Now print it out on postersized paper, put it on a bat and beat it over Acura's upper management letting them know how close they were/are.