I'm in NY... back of the car discount would have worked great for me. Oh well. If only the new exhaust would fit in the back of your car. Either way, I still love my J-pipe.

 

I will look into a quad setup for the base. It might cost more then the base due to the extra tips and labor.

 

its always hard to tell from in cabin recordings cuz our motors are so loud during vtec especially with a CAI.The drive by videos sound pretty sweet good thing is that i hear absolutely no rasp. im down for this one, im glad i waited on my cat back. GOOD JOB RICHIE!!!!! you rock!!!,

 

Fly-by videos will be uploaded tomorrow. Sounds pretty good.

 

ditto

 

 

This looks like a good exhaust. I think if the tips your using weren't short like that it'd look much better. And since I didn't get a chance to get an atlp quad this would make up for that. Personally I do think the atlp is a bit overhyped. But let's see what other tips get thrown on this.

 

VIDEO

Main mod: RV6 catback exhaust
Supporting mods: AEM CAI V1, RV6 V3 j pipe

 

Well, that did it. I'm sold! Those runs sound AMAZING!!

 

Jason, the cars looking ILL bro!! i think im gonna have to look into getting this exhaust sounds SICK!

 

Thanks Kelly. Sounds pretty good too

Wish I could've WOT'd a bit longer but the road wasn't that long. Will try to get some highway runs soon.

 

you should try recording closer to where the car takes off, it seems you are half way. start further back (closer to starting point) and we can hear more WOT as car drives away . just my

either way, its sounds damn healthy!!!!

 

Amazing, just wish I had the funds for this first batch

 

^u better start saving up bro! At least for the second batch, sounds like rich is going to reach his quota with this first batch soon, my guess in like another week or two.

 

hmm, drive-bys in the car sounds clean but it would be nice to hear the exhaust on a car without a cai.... truthfully, the sound from the cai drowned out the exhaust in the video, but that might just be me.


would be nice to get some pure exhaust vids.

 

I'm interested in that

 

I may be interested also but I want to wait until a few other guys get theirs first... I've been burned by a "deposit" first deal when I was building my civic.

 

damn i shouldve waitedand it sounds good ... the current setup with the Rv6 v3 and the atlp rasp around 4k....oh well

 

That's usually not how vendors operate around here, I've never heard of anyone getting burned by a vendor on this site before. I have been here less then 7 months (trolling for like 2 years), I have bought countless of products by way of azine from vendors, not once have i been burned, you just have to watch out for private sellers, and the deposite is thru paypal, so if it is fraudulent, then you are covered. I NEVER send wired payments, cash, money orders, and of anything that can't be traced or isnt secured.

I bought Rich's j pipe, so I know he checks out.

 

Richie already said that the deposit can be refundable if we end up not liking the final product. Just goes to show how confident he is with his product.

 

Just to help clarify... I'm not saying that I don't believe he is a sincere business man, I meant that I still would just like to see how happy some of the members are with this product and how it performs. I've always been one to research different things before performing modifications. If I'm going to spend that kind of money, I just want to be sure its what I want.

 

Wow....this exhaust sounds sick.

 

Thanks Jason for getting those vids up.

 

All I heard was the CAI .



Jason, can you swap back to stock intake and make videos ??? J/k

 

Haha nope... but I was thinking of borrowing a Go Pro cam and mounting it right by the exhaust outlet.

Even with the CAI, my Comptechs didn't sound anywhere near this good/loud/deep.

 

i got a go pro cam but u hear wind noise. not sure if the wind noise will be as bad if u mount it in the rear as when i had it on my fender and roof

 

Whats up with the AFR's in the dyno graphs?

 

 

I think many people are misunderstanding the average hp and tq #'s

It's true, the average increase is more important than the peak, more area under the curve or in this case more area between the stock curve and the RV6 curve.

BUT the Mustang dyno doesn't do it that way.

The averages in this case are meaninglless. Look at the numbers.
min max ave
1 2 1 2 1 2 difference
RPM 2508 2480 6646 6489 4933 4873
TQ -58 -56 191 173 114 154 -40
HP -71 -64 205 189 105 141 -36

Look at the graph, the real numbers don't start until 3000rpm yet the average HP and TQ are taken from 2508 and 2480 rpm.

What's with negative minimum HP and TQ numbers? Is that even possible?

Look at channel 1 and 2.
Channel 1, 191tq 205hp. for the RV6 +V3
Channel 2, 172tq 189hp. 2 is stock and is used in both graphs.

Now look at the ave,
1 is 114tq and 105 hp for RV6 + V3
2 is 154tq and 141 hp for stock
diff -40tq and -36hp

The difference is 40HP BUT it's a 40hp loss! This is probably attributed to the extraneous info below 3000RPM.

The average was figured out by averaging the highest and lowest numbers between 2508rpm and 6646rpm. If you look at the graph, the orange RV+V3 hp line is about 17hp@2508rpm and 205hp@6646rpm. (17+205)/2=105. The TQ is about 37@3000 and 191@5000, (37+191)/2=114, Again these are meaningless because the Tq line doesn't start until 3000rpm where its at 180tq and taking two points on a graph and averaging them isn't telling you anything.

The peak #'s are impressive by themselves, no need to try to inflate them with meaningless numbers.

 

^^^^ Dude, you lost me at "Look at the numbers.
min max ave......"

So, are you saying that Richie's average gains are inflated?? and that it's actually lossing power? I'm lost, but then you say at the end that the numbers are impressive? so, is the graph correct or not in your opinion?

I'm still getting it, whether it gives me 40 whp, or just 2whp.

 

looks good...not a fan of the tips.....you should just use the oem style tips....they look way better imo....props for a nice fabrication

 

when i read "true dual"this is what i was expecting to see
http://www.alteredatmosphere.com/mm5...37Exhaust5.jpg

 

The sensor wasnt hooked up on the first graph and there is no way to tell on the second graph without scaling.

Thanks for taking the time to figure this out and explain this. I was just trying to find a way to best represent the mid range gains. I will get these runs redone using a 6MT and a dynojet.



You dont loose power its just that the 40WHP average gains are meaningless.

There is no way to fit that under a TL and maintain ground clearance.

 

OOOOHHHHH k, so what he's trying to say is that avarage gains are meaningless, and peak is the only thing that counts.

ok, well... to each their own.

 

Richie,

Absolutely AWESOME product u have come out with... so mad props to u. I am considering getting one at some point. Would def also want to pair that up with the Jpipe v3. You want to offer a trade in program for an ATLP Quad catback? haha JK! If i sell it im def looking into getting one.. i could careless if i lose 2.049 WHP and .00113 WTQ

The fact that this has turned into some political debate on power gains etc i am unsubscribing, i get constant emails that this thread has a new post and me thinking its something good its nothing but more typical BS.

Thot this thread was about deposits not a pissing contest or who has the biggest dick.

If you want it order it, if not STFU!

 

He is not saying that avg numbers are meaningless. He is saying these avg numbers are meaningless because the way the graph is set up.

Think about it, if you peak was only 20 at any given rpm and never higher at any other given rpm then it is impossible to get an avg of 40.

I see what he means in the graph.

 

Ok, i have a mystery mod for your car that adds 60HP at the wheels I'll sell you for $1,300.00. I also have a very rare left handed screwdriver I let go.

You'll just jump right on any band wagon wont you?

Im sure its a great exhaust, that will add plenty of power for an exhaust. But for someone to claim 40whp??? Come on be real. I dont think he was trying to misslead I think his dyno graph is just wrong. As stated above.

People are questioning the HP claim ( that is clearly not there)of a new mod and you tell them to STFU?

Eat a fat one.

 

Folks, either have a civil discussion or don't post in the thread.

CONSIDER THIS A WARNING.

 

There is a good gain on this setup. The problem with the dyno avg numbers are thier start and stop points. It messing up the numbers.

Look at the power (red lines) in the second graph. Thier start points are different.

See how one starts at around 70HP at 2500 rpm, and the other starts at 15hp at 2500 rpm, but did not start to rise until about 2800 rpm. Thats why it is showing a negative number. Same thing with the TQ. start points are different.

Same thing at the other end of the spectrum. Run one was ran out to about 6700 rpm, and run 2 was shut downaround 6400 rpm. The amounts to a large part of the gain in avg numbers.

But looking at the overall picture, I think this is a great exhaust. Nice gain throughout the rpm band. Also very nice gain in the lower end tq without sacrafice in the top end.

Just because the avg numbers are not accurate is no reason to not get this set up. Still makes plenty of power for an exhaust.

 

A high boost supercharger for $1300?? I'll take it!

Sorry....